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		<title>By: Gramfan</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/17/australia-another-cleric-calls-jews-pigs-urges-children-to-die-for-allah/comment-page-1/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Gramfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, guys:))</description>
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		<title>By: eloivsdiablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>eloivsdiablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was good to see this story in the MSMedia as these bigoted mis-fits have been reciting hatred brought directly to you from the koran for a very long time now. 
Gramfan, saw the Hilali thread with the poster &#039;jihadi&#039; and it&#039;s clear that these muslim trolls have one objective and that is to change the subject and divert the attention away from the thread at hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was good to see this story in the MSMedia as these bigoted mis-fits have been reciting hatred brought directly to you from the koran for a very long time now.<br />
Gramfan, saw the Hilali thread with the poster &#8216;jihadi&#8217; and it&#8217;s clear that these muslim trolls have one objective and that is to change the subject and divert the attention away from the thread at hand.</p>
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		<title>By: sheikyermami</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheikyermami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am adding something from Old Atlantic Lighthouse which I think is quite helpful:

When Virgil Goode, a congressman from Virginia called for a stop to Muhammedan immigration, he was generally derided and ridiculed as a &#039;bigot&#039; and a hick, especially by some of the CNN moonbats like the comedian Jon Steward. This is about how to shut them up:



Virgil Goode Right: Stop Muslim Immigration

We must stop Muslim immigration to save Western civilization and ultimately our own lives. Political Correctness about Islam or Muslims is lethal.

Why is it moral to bomb people in Iraq but not moral to stop them coming here to kill us? They can’t come here and kill us if they can’t come here. Why is it moral to bomb people in Iraq but not moral to keep the same people coming here as immigrants?

There should be no immigration in time of war. Virgil Goode is right. Stop immigration. This is where we decide whether to win this war or not.

Many people, who disagree with Goode, and many who agree with him will feel they must call me or others on my side bigot. People should feel free to take back those words or move on from them to the substance of the debate.
If people are overcome by PC, that should be ignored as well. Everyone should feel free to revise and extend their remarks because they felt overcome by PC. Its a daily experience we all feel, called fear.

PC-pecking, A method by which all Liberals keep all people in a state of fear. (paraphrase from Firing Line debate many years back on henpecking.)

Surgeons have what the call bleed time. This is a period of time after the first incision. In our PC drenched culture, the equivalent is bigot calling time. This is an initial period when a liberal, or a PC fearful conservative, has to call others bigot, even if they agree with them.

When asked as a ritual to call others bigot, point it out. I decline to call Virgil Goode a bigot. Like Reagen, can turn it around and say, I decline to call my opponent mean spirted or lacking in courtesy.

This debate should be had in good humor. The excesses of rhetoric on both sides should be regarded as good clean fun. We must, in time of war, hold ourselves to the consequences of our choices, not to the high spirits of the debate. We must all live together with the deaths of our people that will continue in this war, both here and there.
Over 3,000 people were killed in the terrorist incidents up to and including 9-11. More have died since then here and there. We owe this debate our best arguments. If that requires use of rhetoric on either side that is a little heavy going, we should respond on the basis of substance. It also allows people to take back what they said or move on, and always to focus on the substance and the consequences.

All remarks here or elsewhere by me should be understod to be revised in that way. There are so many remarks calling this author a bigot that it would be impossible to keep track of them all or even a portion.
This post is draft and preliminary and represents some notes on posts made at various sites. This post will be cleaned up and revised as time permits.

==

December 20th, 2006 at 10:18:21 From: Fallaci Admirer

bin Laden’s Fatwa: Kill Americans
“We — with God’s help — call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html

They believe the Koran commans them to kill every American. “On that basis, and in compliance with God’s order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims: The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it”

http://www.rawstory.com/comments/24293.html

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html

==

bin Laden’s Fatwa: Kill Americans

“We — with God’s help — call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html bin Laden Fatwa 1998

They believe the Koran commands “every Muslim to kill the Americans, civilians and military”.

“On that basis, and in compliance with God’s order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims: The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it”

And in August 1998, embassies, Cole 2000, WTC 2001 and Pentagon 2001, etc. they did it according to this Fatwa. 9-11 was done by legal immigrants who came after the WTC 1993 attack.

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002189.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am adding something from Old Atlantic Lighthouse which I think is quite helpful:</p>
<p>When Virgil Goode, a congressman from Virginia called for a stop to Muhammedan immigration, he was generally derided and ridiculed as a &#8216;bigot&#8217; and a hick, especially by some of the CNN moonbats like the comedian Jon Steward. This is about how to shut them up:</p>
<p>Virgil Goode Right: Stop Muslim Immigration</p>
<p>We must stop Muslim immigration to save Western civilization and ultimately our own lives. Political Correctness about Islam or Muslims is lethal.</p>
<p>Why is it moral to bomb people in Iraq but not moral to stop them coming here to kill us? They can’t come here and kill us if they can’t come here. Why is it moral to bomb people in Iraq but not moral to keep the same people coming here as immigrants?</p>
<p>There should be no immigration in time of war. Virgil Goode is right. Stop immigration. This is where we decide whether to win this war or not.</p>
<p>Many people, who disagree with Goode, and many who agree with him will feel they must call me or others on my side bigot. People should feel free to take back those words or move on from them to the substance of the debate.<br />
If people are overcome by PC, that should be ignored as well. Everyone should feel free to revise and extend their remarks because they felt overcome by PC. Its a daily experience we all feel, called fear.</p>
<p>PC-pecking, A method by which all Liberals keep all people in a state of fear. (paraphrase from Firing Line debate many years back on henpecking.)</p>
<p>Surgeons have what the call bleed time. This is a period of time after the first incision. In our PC drenched culture, the equivalent is bigot calling time. This is an initial period when a liberal, or a PC fearful conservative, has to call others bigot, even if they agree with them.</p>
<p>When asked as a ritual to call others bigot, point it out. I decline to call Virgil Goode a bigot. Like Reagen, can turn it around and say, I decline to call my opponent mean spirted or lacking in courtesy.</p>
<p>This debate should be had in good humor. The excesses of rhetoric on both sides should be regarded as good clean fun. We must, in time of war, hold ourselves to the consequences of our choices, not to the high spirits of the debate. We must all live together with the deaths of our people that will continue in this war, both here and there.<br />
Over 3,000 people were killed in the terrorist incidents up to and including 9-11. More have died since then here and there. We owe this debate our best arguments. If that requires use of rhetoric on either side that is a little heavy going, we should respond on the basis of substance. It also allows people to take back what they said or move on, and always to focus on the substance and the consequences.</p>
<p>All remarks here or elsewhere by me should be understod to be revised in that way. There are so many remarks calling this author a bigot that it would be impossible to keep track of them all or even a portion.<br />
This post is draft and preliminary and represents some notes on posts made at various sites. This post will be cleaned up and revised as time permits.</p>
<p>==</p>
<p>December 20th, 2006 at 10:18:21 From: Fallaci Admirer</p>
<p>bin Laden’s Fatwa: Kill Americans<br />
“We — with God’s help — call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html</a></p>
<p>They believe the Koran commans them to kill every American. “On that basis, and in compliance with God’s order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims: The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/comments/24293.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rawstory.com/comments/24293.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html</a></p>
<p>==</p>
<p>bin Laden’s Fatwa: Kill Americans</p>
<p>“We — with God’s help — call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1998.html</a> bin Laden Fatwa 1998</p>
<p>They believe the Koran commands “every Muslim to kill the Americans, civilians and military”.</p>
<p>“On that basis, and in compliance with God’s order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims: The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it”</p>
<p>And in August 1998, embassies, Cole 2000, WTC 2001 and Pentagon 2001, etc. they did it according to this Fatwa. 9-11 was done by legal immigrants who came after the WTC 1993 attack.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002189.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002189.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: D.T</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 03:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here,here Gramfan
I have been listening to talkback radio and it infuriates me to hear how easy it is for mussies to deny they back this loser.The commentaters seem to think its only a small number of islamists preaching this crap.I really doubt the radio jocks have any real understanding of the problem.
D.T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here,here Gramfan<br />
I have been listening to talkback radio and it infuriates me to hear how easy it is for mussies to deny they back this loser.The commentaters seem to think its only a small number of islamists preaching this crap.I really doubt the radio jocks have any real understanding of the problem.<br />
D.T.</p>
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		<title>By: Gramfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gramfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading some of the comments from others on this link.

http://www.news.com.au:80/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html

The usual &quot;moderate muslims&quot; have come out against him. Frankly I don&#039;t know whether to believe them or not. I would love to of course.

The other thing that stands out is the general ignorance of islam displayed by the &quot;lefty luvvies&quot; re the &quot;ROP&quot;.
They seem to think it is a relgion just like all the others. Morons!

I hope they throw the &quot;racial vilification&quot; book at him. After what they did to the 2 Dannies it would make a lot of sense.

Sheik,
you are doing an amazing job here and JWDW as well. Well done,mate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading some of the comments from others on this link.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news.com.au:80/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com.au:80/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html</a></p>
<p>The usual &#8220;moderate muslims&#8221; have come out against him. Frankly I don&#8217;t know whether to believe them or not. I would love to of course.</p>
<p>The other thing that stands out is the general ignorance of islam displayed by the &#8220;lefty luvvies&#8221; re the &#8220;ROP&#8221;.<br />
They seem to think it is a relgion just like all the others. Morons!</p>
<p>I hope they throw the &#8220;racial vilification&#8221; book at him. After what they did to the 2 Dannies it would make a lot of sense.</p>
<p>Sheik,<br />
you are doing an amazing job here and JWDW as well. Well done,mate!</p>
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		<title>By: Gramfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gramfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep it coming muslims!
You are exposing yourself more each day.
There are many bloggers who already know you and now you are adding to the numbers on a daily basis.

You will force governments to pass laws the you will not like. I can hardly wait! Citizenship will become a privilege; not a given even if you are born here.

What a collection of disgusting ideas - telling parents their children should blow themselves up/die for allah.

And to think our mo-troll told me I was ignorant of islam (on another thread).

Who is vindicated now &quot;Jihadi&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep it coming muslims!<br />
You are exposing yourself more each day.<br />
There are many bloggers who already know you and now you are adding to the numbers on a daily basis.</p>
<p>You will force governments to pass laws the you will not like. I can hardly wait! Citizenship will become a privilege; not a given even if you are born here.</p>
<p>What a collection of disgusting ideas &#8211; telling parents their children should blow themselves up/die for allah.</p>
<p>And to think our mo-troll told me I was ignorant of islam (on another thread).</p>
<p>Who is vindicated now &#8220;Jihadi&#8221;?</p>
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