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		<title>By: Luzu</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/21/love-letter-to-australia-from-a-turkish-migrant/comment-page-1/#comment-1135</link>
		<dc:creator>Luzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 00:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jihadi,

I&#039;m sure there are Kiwi CEOs in Australia. They just don&#039;t make such a big deal about their origins. We integrate, you see? We don&#039;t feel the need to bang on about how we are discriminated against, victims, blah, blah, blah. We just get on with it. And yet , there are very real ways in which NZers are singled out, particularly in immigration, for discriminatory treatment by law.

By the way, you might like to look into the background of the Ansett deal a little more closely, in particular the vastly inflated price that was paid for the airline and the problems that posed for maintaining the airline as a viable company. I must say, from your post, you do seem to take the whole thing rather personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jihadi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are Kiwi CEOs in Australia. They just don&#8217;t make such a big deal about their origins. We integrate, you see? We don&#8217;t feel the need to bang on about how we are discriminated against, victims, blah, blah, blah. We just get on with it. And yet , there are very real ways in which NZers are singled out, particularly in immigration, for discriminatory treatment by law.</p>
<p>By the way, you might like to look into the background of the Ansett deal a little more closely, in particular the vastly inflated price that was paid for the airline and the problems that posed for maintaining the airline as a viable company. I must say, from your post, you do seem to take the whole thing rather personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Gramfan</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/21/love-letter-to-australia-from-a-turkish-migrant/comment-page-1/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>Gramfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“I just want them (muslims) out of the west. I want them out of my country. They do nothing but cause problems. There is no compatibility with western civilzation and islam.”

case closed … you loser …. &quot;

This is still true. Islam is not compatible with democracy. The first allegiance is to islam. See Sheik&#039;s topic today. Democracy will never exist in islamic countries. At least not in its true form. Sure they may have elections as they did in Iraq, and sure Hamas won. But true equality for all citizens isn&#039;t ever going to happen.  And they don&#039;t want it to happen either.

Basically muslims want their host country to adapt to them: it should be the opposite. 
Why is it that muslims go to the west when they hate the west and want to establish sharia law? Global dominaton has been said out loud for many to hear.
That is the goal.

Hope you got a kick out of calling me a &quot;loser&quot;. Your aggression on this site is obvious for all to see. You are always on the attack.

When I asked you some straight forward questions about islam here I got no reply: nothing,zip, nada!
You could have been civil and helpful and answered, but you were not.
You could have explained, in your own words, what islam in Australia is all about.

In my opinion you lost that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“I just want them (muslims) out of the west. I want them out of my country. They do nothing but cause problems. There is no compatibility with western civilzation and islam.”</p>
<p>case closed … you loser …. &#8221;</p>
<p>This is still true. Islam is not compatible with democracy. The first allegiance is to islam. See Sheik&#8217;s topic today. Democracy will never exist in islamic countries. At least not in its true form. Sure they may have elections as they did in Iraq, and sure Hamas won. But true equality for all citizens isn&#8217;t ever going to happen.  And they don&#8217;t want it to happen either.</p>
<p>Basically muslims want their host country to adapt to them: it should be the opposite.<br />
Why is it that muslims go to the west when they hate the west and want to establish sharia law? Global dominaton has been said out loud for many to hear.<br />
That is the goal.</p>
<p>Hope you got a kick out of calling me a &#8220;loser&#8221;. Your aggression on this site is obvious for all to see. You are always on the attack.</p>
<p>When I asked you some straight forward questions about islam here I got no reply: nothing,zip, nada!<br />
You could have been civil and helpful and answered, but you were not.<br />
You could have explained, in your own words, what islam in Australia is all about.</p>
<p>In my opinion you lost that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ganesh</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/21/love-letter-to-australia-from-a-turkish-migrant/comment-page-1/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Muslims are that capable how is it that non muslims do not migrate to Muslim countries but Millions of Muslims migrate to non muslim lands? With the exception of immigrant workers in the middle east of course who will never settle in the middle east. Also how is it that Muslims are not able to develop their economies and many Muslim countries rank among the poorest and most illiterate in the world? 

It is my belief that in any community there are good, bad and the ugly. Do Muslim countries have statistics to prove that they have a significantly lower incidence of crime in their countries? Reading about the killings and lootings, I doubt there is any change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Muslims are that capable how is it that non muslims do not migrate to Muslim countries but Millions of Muslims migrate to non muslim lands? With the exception of immigrant workers in the middle east of course who will never settle in the middle east. Also how is it that Muslims are not able to develop their economies and many Muslim countries rank among the poorest and most illiterate in the world? </p>
<p>It is my belief that in any community there are good, bad and the ugly. Do Muslim countries have statistics to prove that they have a significantly lower incidence of crime in their countries? Reading about the killings and lootings, I doubt there is any change.</p>
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		<title>By: jihadi</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/21/love-letter-to-australia-from-a-turkish-migrant/comment-page-1/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>jihadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gramfan, 
just a reminder from a previous post of yours:

&quot;I just want them (muslims) out of the west. I want them out of my country. They do nothing but cause problems. There is no compatibility with western civilzation and islam.&quot;

case closed ... you loser ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gramfan,<br />
just a reminder from a previous post of yours:</p>
<p>&#8220;I just want them (muslims) out of the west. I want them out of my country. They do nothing but cause problems. There is no compatibility with western civilzation and islam.&#8221;</p>
<p>case closed &#8230; you loser &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gramfan</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/21/love-letter-to-australia-from-a-turkish-migrant/comment-page-1/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>Gramfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poster Jihadi:
&quot;Every minority group has its achievers and losers. &quot;

Exactly! Actually I said this ages ago on another thread and you agreed with me so I am way ahead, not &quot;slowly starting to get it&quot;.

&quot;BTW are you claiming Edmund Hilary as a Kiwi Australian ? You’ve really upset Luzu now ….. &quot;

No. I mentioned Hilary as a famous Kiwi. I stated he was a New Zealander at the start: something Luzu would no doubt be proud of. It needed to be said after you accused Kiwis of being dole bludgers etc etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poster Jihadi:<br />
&#8220;Every minority group has its achievers and losers. &#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly! Actually I said this ages ago on another thread and you agreed with me so I am way ahead, not &#8220;slowly starting to get it&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;BTW are you claiming Edmund Hilary as a Kiwi Australian ? You’ve really upset Luzu now ….. &#8221;</p>
<p>No. I mentioned Hilary as a famous Kiwi. I stated he was a New Zealander at the start: something Luzu would no doubt be proud of. It needed to be said after you accused Kiwis of being dole bludgers etc etc.</p>
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		<title>By: jihadi</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/21/love-letter-to-australia-from-a-turkish-migrant/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>jihadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gramfan,,,
you are slowly starting to get it.  Every minority group has its achievers and losers. Even muslims.  That is the whole point.  Why brand all muslims as women hating violent people when this is simply not the case ? BTW are you claiming Edmund Hilary as a Kiwi Australian ? You&#039;ve really upset Luzu now .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gramfan,,,<br />
you are slowly starting to get it.  Every minority group has its achievers and losers. Even muslims.  That is the whole point.  Why brand all muslims as women hating violent people when this is simply not the case ? BTW are you claiming Edmund Hilary as a Kiwi Australian ? You&#8217;ve really upset Luzu now &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Gramfan</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/21/love-letter-to-australia-from-a-turkish-migrant/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Gramfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So now we have two Muhammedan social raisers &amp; poster boyz who support the Islamization of Australia by the wealth and opportunities the host country provided? &quot; Posted by Sheik (himself)

Amazing how poster J. always comes up with the same things, usually muslim bank  CEO&#039;s: i.e. quoting successful muslims in Australia. Why does he highlight the fact they are muslims? Is that the reason for their success or are they simply just smarter than the average Joe?

1. What did this have to do with the post by Luzu who eloquently added to the debate by stating Kiwis are not all dole bludgers - in self defence I might add.

2. I am sure there are some pretty spectacular achievements by non-muslims in this country.

e.g. Sir John Monash: Australia soldier who was recognised for his outstanding leadership in WW1, and developer of the Victoria State Electricity Commission, who had a university and a freeway named after him in honour of his achievements. 
Sir Isaac Isaacs: 9th Governor-General of Australia and the FIRST Australian citizen to be Gov. Gen. (Others were Brits.)

Sir Edmund Hilary: A New Zealander who was the first to conquer Mount Everest on Coronation Day. (QE2). Now recently in Antarctica with PM Clarke to check out the base he established there.

I could go on and on,,Dame Joan Sutherland, Sister Kenny - pioneer in polio treatment, what about Baz Lurhman even....oh heck this is like playing trivial pursuit by oneself!

Aussies have done well not only here but internationally in all fields.

Oooops!! The first 2 I mentioned were Jews. The second a Kiwi!

Poster J always go off the thread. He attacks personally then comes up with what he thinks are huge (muslim) achievements when in fact the rest of the community is up to that level and often more so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So now we have two Muhammedan social raisers &amp; poster boyz who support the Islamization of Australia by the wealth and opportunities the host country provided? &#8221; Posted by Sheik (himself)</p>
<p>Amazing how poster J. always comes up with the same things, usually muslim bank  CEO&#8217;s: i.e. quoting successful muslims in Australia. Why does he highlight the fact they are muslims? Is that the reason for their success or are they simply just smarter than the average Joe?</p>
<p>1. What did this have to do with the post by Luzu who eloquently added to the debate by stating Kiwis are not all dole bludgers &#8211; in self defence I might add.</p>
<p>2. I am sure there are some pretty spectacular achievements by non-muslims in this country.</p>
<p>e.g. Sir John Monash: Australia soldier who was recognised for his outstanding leadership in WW1, and developer of the Victoria State Electricity Commission, who had a university and a freeway named after him in honour of his achievements.<br />
Sir Isaac Isaacs: 9th Governor-General of Australia and the FIRST Australian citizen to be Gov. Gen. (Others were Brits.)</p>
<p>Sir Edmund Hilary: A New Zealander who was the first to conquer Mount Everest on Coronation Day. (QE2). Now recently in Antarctica with PM Clarke to check out the base he established there.</p>
<p>I could go on and on,,Dame Joan Sutherland, Sister Kenny &#8211; pioneer in polio treatment, what about Baz Lurhman even&#8230;.oh heck this is like playing trivial pursuit by oneself!</p>
<p>Aussies have done well not only here but internationally in all fields.</p>
<p>Oooops!! The first 2 I mentioned were Jews. The second a Kiwi!</p>
<p>Poster J always go off the thread. He attacks personally then comes up with what he thinks are huge (muslim) achievements when in fact the rest of the community is up to that level and often more so.</p>
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		<title>By: sheikyermami</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/21/love-letter-to-australia-from-a-turkish-migrant/comment-page-1/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>sheikyermami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! 

So now we have two Muhammedan social raisers &amp; poster boyz who support the Islamization of Australia by the wealth and opportunities the host country provided?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! </p>
<p>So now we have two Muhammedan social raisers &#038; poster boyz who support the Islamization of Australia by the wealth and opportunities the host country provided?</p>
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		<title>By: jihadi</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/21/love-letter-to-australia-from-a-turkish-migrant/comment-page-1/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>jihadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>avec plaisir !!! 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Fahour</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>avec plaisir !!! </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Fahour" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Fahour</a></p>
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		<title>By: sheikyermami</title>
		<link>http://sheikyermami.com/2007/01/21/love-letter-to-australia-from-a-turkish-migrant/comment-page-1/#comment-476</link>
		<dc:creator>sheikyermami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I tried some fact checking on this claim that the CEO of NAB is muslim. Curiously nothing came up.

 Go ahead, jihadi: Make my day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I tried some fact checking on this claim that the CEO of NAB is muslim. Curiously nothing came up.</p>
<p> Go ahead, jihadi: Make my day!</p>
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