Germany & the Saudi Petrol-Dollars

By Bernhard Zand

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The Saudi Arabia which German Chancellor Angela Merkel will visit this weekend sees itself as a force for order in the Middle East. Not only is the country trying to stem conflicts in Iraq and Lebanon, but it has also taken a tough stand against Iran.

The world quickly reached its verdict after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001: Much of the blame, many agreed, could be laid at the feet of Saudi Arabia. It was seen as the dark power behind the attacks, with 15 of the 19 attackers coming from the kingdom along with their fanatical ideology and, most of all, al-Qaida boss Osama bin Laden himself. This peculiar country — ruled by a high-handed group of princes, oil-rich yet inspired by a backward-looking form of Islam, highly modern and yet practically calcified — suddenly found itself facing tough questions, particularly from the United States, its traditional ally and protector.

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Saudi Arabia, and King Abdullah bin Abd al-Aziz (center), are playing a greater role in the Gulf these days.

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10 thoughts on “Germany & the Saudi Petrol-Dollars”

  1. Saudi Arabia, with its export of Wahabbism and use of oil money to corrupt Western governments, is probably more of a danger than Iran in the long run. Perhaps it would have been better for the West if Saddam Hussein had overrun the place-he most likely would have stomped out Wahabbism once and for all.

  2. OT guys,
    if you have cable, see if you can get to see
    “Terror in its Own Words” with E.D Hill.
    I think there is one more screening this weekend,,or early tomorrow morning Oz time.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249560,00.html

    Good they are showing it. See Wafa Sultan, Brigitte Gabriel, Walid Shobat and others. (Hate to say this but for many of us there is nothing new here. Just glad it is on MSM.)

  3. Atheist:

    FYI I don’t care if you believe in Oprah Winfrey or malcomn X or no one for that matter. I am quite comfortable for you to feel this way: it is your democratic right. So no personal attack from me.

    Didn’t bother to watch all of that but,,,
    You really don’t know what is going on, do you?

    There is a huge difference between ignorant, rednecks and islamofascists.
    I cannot think, in all my years of studying history, of a worse threat to world peace than radical islam.

    Please: educate yourself.
    Radical islam is worse than Hitler and the nazi party and stalin, idi amin, pol pot and anyone you care to mention.
    If you see Bush in this league, inspite of all the weird/wonderful things he does – sorry mate: you are beyond help.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-692071627799119020&q=obsession+islam

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2533702461706761547&q=relentless

    The above websites will tell you what is going on from the mouths of islamic imams and terrorist leaders themselves.

    I do not believe Sheik set this forum up to debate theology versus atheism.
    He set it up to make people aware of radical islam and its threat to the west.
    Obviously you don’t grasp this concept. It transcends religion. It should also transcend political leanings. Radical islam is a fascist, totalitarian belief. I think you suggested your are a “lefty”. I wonder, if as a lefty, you endorse this concept of world control?

  4. Gramfan,
    I think you are wasting your time engaging Atheist.
    To find moral equivalence between a dumb safari addict ambushed – almost guided – by a clever manipulator to mumble a few anti-Semitic idiocies with a mass of crazed maniacs who enthusiastically butcher not just Jews but any defenceless infidel, regardless how young or old, how white or black, believer or atheist, every day of the week on every continent, is not just superbly idiotic, or ignorant, but obscenely and disgustingly wicked.
    “Atheist” is a shameless, brazen liar. He tries to divert our attention from a real enemy to a non-existing one. And doing so he is aiding the real enemy. In other words he is a traitor. Unless, of course, he is a brain-washed Mohammedan and is doing what his mad cult expects him to do.

  5. As one whom has served in both VietNam and the first Gulf war and traveeled throughout the Middle east, I cab confirm your fears regarding Islam are valid indeed. Sadly the PC, leftist Media does a real disservice through its lack of truth telling where Islam is concerned.
    Sure, Bush has made mistakes, as has every president before him. One fact is certain: Virtually every violent trouble spot in the world(many sans Western involvement)involves Islam in obe fashion or another.
    If we do not face it head on now. WE will pay dearly in the end.
    Study its History(sans PC hype)and the Qur’an..Hadith. Those so-called “radicals” are following what Muhammad taught from those books. Do not be fooled by Muslim apoligists that say Westerners can not understand the context because we do not speak or understan Arabic. That is a ruse. Those Jihadi’s in the tens of millions have no trouble understanding them.

  6. to Christian West : “crazed maniacs who enthusiastically butcher not just Jews but any defenceless infidel, regardless how young or old, how white or black, believer or atheist, every day of the week on every continent”.
    please let me know the last time “infidels” were “butchered” in Australia or South America ? The last time any butchering happened in Europe was in 1995 when 8300 Bosnians were slaughtered by Serbs. Yes that’s right, Muslims butchered by Christians. I reckon you’re no smarter than that “dumb safari addict” as you refer to him. The ignorance and hate displayed by him epitomises the loony right.

  7. Atheist asks me :
    “”please let me know the last time “infidels” were “butchered” in Australia or South America ? The last time any butchering happened in Europe was in 1995 when 8300 Bosnians were slaughtered by Serbs. Yes that’s right, Muslims butchered by Christians. I reckon you’re no smarter than that “dumb safari addict” as you refer to him. The ignorance and hate displayed by him epitomises the loony right.”

    If “the ignorance and hate displayed by him epitomises the loony right” then one, indeed, has absolutely nothing to fear from the loony right. How ludicrous of you to try to whip up global hysteria on the basis of THAT?
    By the way, what makes the confused sod “loony right”? His, fully legal, animal hunting? Certainly not his contempt for Jews which, at least in Europe, where I live, and America, where I often travel, is a notorious feature of the so called “left” (and some 25 millions Moslems settlers).

    You are asking: “please let me know the last time “infidels” were “butchered” in Australia or South America ?”

    You forgot Antarctica! And the Cook and Easter Islands! And Tierra del Fuego! And Tibet!

    There, indeed, are some places on our planet not afflicted by Moslem terror because there are few, if any, Moslems there (yet!), but only an idiot, or a pathetic liar, or both, can deny that Islamic terror represents the most formidable threat to infidels caught in its midst and to non-Islamic civilizations.
    As for South America; which, according to you, is still jihad free; the moslems, some years ago, planted a bomb at a Jewish centre in Buenos Aires and murdered some 100 Jews and maimed another few. Now, will you be kind enough to delete South America from your endless list of the jihad-free places on our globe?

    And the last time a butchering occurred in Europe is not Bosnia in 1995, as you inanely claim, but Madrid in 2004 and London 2005. And that was meant to be only a tip of the iceberg. If not for the enormous effort of the European police and security apparatus and the staggering funds it costs the Europeans to keep the Moslem jihadists at bay we would see the bombings like in Madrid and London all over Europe every couple of weeks. Wake up man!

    Oh, you haven’t seen butchery of infidels in Australia yet? Don’t be ridiculous! The only thing it proves is that the Moslem population of Australia is still under 10%. But why don’t you come over to Paris, bring your girlfriend with, and take an evening stroll in, virtually all Moslem, Clichy-sous-Bois. The chance you will have any throat left if you should try to defend her from rape is very, very slim indeed. That would give you an idea of things Australia may be heading for. But I read some reports from Sidney and the spree of Moslem gang raping the Christian “whores” and it doesn’t seem too different from what is happening on everyday basis in Scandinavia, France, Kosovo etc. Well, perhaps not so much in Kosovo where there are virtually no Christians left and the last 1000 or so ancient churches burned.

    And before you venture to prove the equivalence of “Christian terror” with jihad on the basis of Bosnia you should try to find the truth what really happened there either by listening to BOTH Serbs and Moslems and, first of all, the UN soldiers. The atrocities were committed by both sides. The difference is that the Serbian ones have been cynically inflated and sometimes invented, while those made by Moslems hushed up. But I doubt that would made you stop your pathetic attempts to distort the reality of the totalitarian fascist nature of Islam’s and the deadly danger it brings to those who let it enter their lands. As I said before, you are either traitor or a Mohammedan – a person with agenda.

  8. Christian West says of Atheist:

    “As I said before, you are either traitor or a Mohammedan – a person with agenda. ”

    Or a misguided, politically and socially naive useful idiot!

    American Piper: you are right. Almost evey trouble spot in the world has an islamic element.

    Not a day passes without some creepy news about muslims. How I wish this wasn’t so.

    They are so brainwashed from an early age it is unfathomable. How any woman can be indoctrinated to feel pride if her son becomes a martyr is going against all laws of nature. This happens. Girls are taught this from an early age.

    Geez,,even a mother snake looks after her young!

  9. “Or a misguided, politically and socially naive useful idiot!”

    You’re right Gramfan. I shall allow for that possibility in the future.

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