Australia to ban books advocating terrorism

* Will that include the Koran and the teaching of jihad (inner struggle) against unbelievers?


AFP/File Photo: Attorney-General Philip Ruddock announced the Australian government plans to outlaw books that advocate terrorism…


The Australian government plans to outlaw books that advocate terrorism in a move that publishers say raises serious concerns abut free speech.

Federal Attorney-General Philip Ruddock announced late Friday that his state counterparts had agreed to consider legislative changes banning publications that advocate terrorism.

He said the planned changes were part of a “zero tolerance” approach to terrorism from Canberra, a strong supporter of the US-led military campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“Books, games, videos, anything that is seen to be advocating a terrorist act would be refused classification, therefore could not be marketed,” Ruddock told public radio.

He said that under existing laws, a publication can only be banned if it is deemed to directly “promote, incite or instruct” readers to engage in terrorist acts.

The proposed new laws ban books that simply advocate terrorism, meaning anything that censors feel glorifies terrorism can be outlawed.

While the distinction may appear subtle, the Australian Publishers Association said it had major implications for free speech in Australia.

“The difficulty is that once you start legislating thew ability of a government to ban books or ban all types of publishing, then you have a problem that it could be the thin edge of the wedge,” association spokeswoman Maree McCaskill told ABC radio.

“We’ve already seen a number of publications taken out of libraries and taken off shelves that have been published and been around for some time, and now the government has removed those.

I have a real concern that this is about freedom of speech. It is about censorship and once you start allowing governments to censor as they feel fit, then you give them a very wide opportunity to start being the arbiter of all sorts of things that should be banned or removed from shelves.”

State attorney’s-general will report back to Canberra on the feasibility of the proposed laws by July.

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24 thoughts on “Australia to ban books advocating terrorism”

  1. On that basis would they ban the bible also for verse such as the following;

    “They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man……..Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:7,17-18)”

    Kill everything that “breathes” from humans and animals!

    Deuteronomy 20:16
    However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

  2. Jamal says:

    “On that basis would they ban the bible…”

    Absolutely! But not before Jamal locates a single, JUST ONE!, synagogue, or a Christian church in the world that urges its congregation to follow and obey that command expressed in a context of a particular episode, which may, or may have not occurred some 3000 years ago. Or, even better, he may also provide the police with an information on whereabouts of a Jew, or a Christian who “saved for himself” a Midian virgin after killing some Midian non-virgins and Midian boys and men.

  3. It is rather amusing that muslims love to quote violent passages from the Bible to “prove” a point, add weight to their arguments when in fact it bounces back right onto them.

    Not everyone in the West uses the Bible, and those who do, do not kill and claim that “the Bible says I should do this”.

    Yet every islamic atrocity has its roots in the koran from country to country where this so-called book is followed and preached in the local mosques! They always use the koran to justify what they do. “Jihad, brothers! Kill the infidel”.

    They cannot see that the religions that use the Bible have had reform and re-interpretation of what has been written there. Language is dynamic and it always has been.

    We all know that the koran hasn’t changed in 1400 years. I do NOT see this as a positive what so ever. It just puts muslims into a primitive mindset, and shows its primitive values.

  4. There is no comparison to the bible. This canard has been thoroughly refuted. What is important is to make the jihad and the recruitment of jihadists difficult. If you want to get serious about fighting jihad, you should MOCK ISLAM. Ridicule it, disgrace it, destroy it.

  5. CW…

    the Christian Right in America use the bible to validate their illegal war in Iraq. So does Bush. He has even been quoted as saying God told him to do it. What other reason could they possibly have for illegally invading a muslim nation ? The oil argument doesn’t stack up and the WMD argument never stacked up either. My arguemnt is if Bush were an atheist he would not have illegally invaded Iraq. Just like Einstein wouln’t have either….

  6. CW,,here we go again with our friendly Atheist!

    I’ll say it again: to use the word “legal” or “illegal” to describe any war is not appropriate.

    And IF it is then are osama and all those murderous creeps acting “legally” or “illegally”?

    (Don’t try the “self-defence” angle! It won’t wash.)

  7. Greetings from al-Kiama

    “Will that include the Koran and the teaching of jihad (inner struggle) against unbelievers?”

    I doubt it, since the OFLC has carried out a successful “Dhimmidom Operation”, and ruled that Sheik Feiz Mohammed’s DVD box set is rated PG, and the sheik’s calls to “jihad” and “martyrdom” were ambiguous. It is also OK to vilify Jews as the “army of pigs”, and make snorting noises.
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  8. GF
    I am sure it says in the bible somewhere it’s legal to invade a sovereign nation… and I am sure if God tells you to do something than that makes it legal too… Oh and please remind me the last time a muslim nation invaded a non-muslim one…. still waiting for the reply on that one… Also let me remind you Osama bin Laden only exists because of Russia’s illegal invasion of Aghanistan. Starting to see the picture ?

  9. “Oh and please remind me the last time a muslim nation invaded a non-muslim one”

    You forget all the invasions by the Moors. How about Spain for starters? They fought back. Now the arabs claim Spain again.

    How about Indonesia? It didn’t start out as a muslim nation. Oh I get it,,it wasn’t a nation per se,,just a group of murdering muslim thugs so its ok then is it? The end result was a conquest anyway.

    Which part of the Bible? Don’t bother findng that as many govts don’t base their foreign policy on what is written in the Bible.

    So we should all blame Russia for the terrorism al quaida and all its affiliates perpetrate? Shouldn’t OBL have vapourised once the Russians were defeated by your logic? You really need to read more history or are you muslim atheist?

    Sorry, your pictures is full of holes!

  10. GF
    I think we need to get one thing straight. I despise Islam but I do not hate muslims. People are merely victims of their birth. OBL is only muslim because he was born in Saudi Arabia. He can’t help it. Just like you can’t help being ignorant because you were born in a middle class christan white society. Ignorance and bigotry ( caused by religion ) is the scourge of our time and it is attitudes like yours that do NOTHING to help solve the problem.

  11. atheist Says:
    Oh and please remind me the last time a muslim nation invaded a non-muslim one….

    The on going invasion of the greater part of the so called Republic of Indonesia for starters, Korsovo the Main course,and Kashmir for desert.

    And atheist,I do not think you know enough about religion to justify calling yourself an atheist.

    Christians Abuse the bible when they justify war with it,
    where-as Muslims use the koran to justify war

    And as you brought up the word OIL,has it ever occured to you,that in Sudan it is oil that they are fighting over,likewise in Iraq,And the USA could be protecting the OIL.

    I would rather see USA controling the OIL.than the Islamist,s, because if the Islamist controlled the OIL,the chances are that all books would be banned except the koran.Not only that,so would music.Worse still,your freedom to be an atheist would also dissappear

    So please dont hide your hate of the USA behind Atheism because if you where a true atheist you would recognise that Islam is the biggest threat.

    If you should try and read the koran,and become a little more enlightened ten you will discover than islam is more tolerant towards Jews and christians than unbelievers (atheists).

    There are enough verses in the koran to support what I say,I guess you are to busy slagging the foundations of your freedom

  12. “GF
    I think we need to get one thing straight. I despise Islam but I do not hate muslims. ” I agree with you here, absolutely.

    OBL was a middle eastern playboy till he decided to go “religious”.Like many saudis who are hippocrites aslo.
    HE chose that path. It was not an accident of birth.

    “Just like you can’t help being ignorant because you were born in a middle class christan white society.”

    And would that apply to you also?? Are you saying all white Christian societies are ignorant and bigotted? WOW!!! What a comment! Proves you are ignorant all right!

    I am not ignorant and I am not a bigot. You always assume too much.

    Thanks, Shiva for yor input:)

  13. Shiva;

    “And atheist,I do not think you know enough about religion to justify calling yourself an atheist. ”

    A very keen observation.
    The irony is that he is the only one here unable to understand it.

  14. Shiva,
    thanks for the compliment. I must admit it took many years of research and soul searching before I could confidently claim I was an atheist. It was one of the most liberating experiences of my life having had christianity rammed down my throat from about the age of 5. Oh, and CW, having read extensively on the life of Einstein was one of the major factors that led to me becoming an atheist. Go ahead, do some research for yourself. You’ll be surpised what you discover.

  15. Shiva,

    As you see the man has only one thing on his mind and that is to announce to the world that he is an atheist now. It is an obsession and he would gate crash any discussion – however unrelated to his “liberating experience” – to broadcast his discovery.
    What a monumental bore. Try imagining sitting next to the guy on the long flight and making a mistake of mentioning something about weather. Horror!
    Had he been more perceptive, self-critical, intelligent and less self-centered he would have noticed that the world just doesn’t give a damn about his philosophical journey.
    My advice is; don’t waste your time.

  16. Athiest, you’re alot of things, but you’re no Einstein. Parroting leftist talking points is getting really old these days, especially when you have islamic violence occuring in countries completely unconnected to Iraq or Afghanistan.
    And Jamal how do those descriptive verses in the bible about historical/mythical events compare to these verses from the koran (400 in all), many of which are prescriptive verses commanding muslims to hate, kill and wage war against those outside the faith. Obviously people like Athiest and Jamal are beyond help and will never get it and it’s chilling to think 300,000 people in this country believe this crap…

    Qur’an 3:85 “And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.”
    Qur’an 9:71 “O Prophet, strive hard [fighting] against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be harsh with them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed.”
    Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.”
    Qur’an 4:168 “Those who reject [Islamic] Faith, Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to any path except the way to Hell, to dwell therein forever. And this to Allah is easy.”
    Qur’an 4:114 “He who disobeys the Apostle after guidance has been revealed will burn in Hell.”
    Qur’an 66:9 “O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelieving Infidels and the Hypocrites; be severe against them. Their abode is Hell, an evil resort.”
    Qur’an 60:4 “We reject you. Hostility and hate have come between us forever, unless you believe in Allah only.'”
    Qur’an 48:28 “It is He Who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth (Islam), that he may make it superior to every other religion, exalting it over them. Allah is a sufficient Witness. Muhammad is the Prophet of Allah. Those who are with him are severe with Infidel unbelievers.”
    Qur’an 9:4 “You cannot escape Allah, weaken or frustrate Him. And proclaim a grievous penalty of a painful doom to those who reject [Islamic] Faith.”
    Qur’an 2:191 “Slay them wherever you find and catch them, and drive them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter.”
    Qur’an 3:150 “Soon We shall strike terror into the hearts of the Infidels, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be in the Fire!”

    Qur’an 33:21 “You have in (Muhammad) the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern of conduct for any one to follow.”
    (Murder and enslavement O.K.’d by Muhammad)
    Bukhari:V5B59N512 “The Prophet had their men killed, their woman and children taken captive.”
    (Murder and lying O.K.’d by Muhammad)
    Bukhari:V4B52N270 “Allah’s Messenger said, ‘Who is ready to kill Ashraf? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle.’ Maslama got up saying, ‘Would you like me to kill him?’ The Prophet proclaimed, ‘Yes.’ Maslama said, ‘Then allow me to lie so that I will be able to deceive him.’ Muhammad said, ‘You may do so.'”
    (Ethinic cleansing O.K.’d by Muhammad)
    Tabari VII:97 “The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill any Jew who falls under your power.'” and
    Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”
    (Genocide O.K.’d by Muhammad)
    Ishaq:464 “The Jews were made to come down, and Allah’s Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men.”
    (Beheading {and Stealing} O.K.’d by Muhammad)
    Tabari VIII:40 “The Messenger commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence.” and
    Tabari VIII:38 “The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims.”
    Given that the prophet Muhammad set such a fine example in the 7th century for all Muslims to follow, is it any wonder that we see peaceful Buhddists burned alive by the followers of Muhammad?

  17. It was one of the most liberating experiences of my life having had christianity rammed down my throat from about the age of 5.

    I have heard many people say exactly the same when the have moved from one belief to another Now just try and think about the moslems kids who are forced to memorize the koran at five years old.

    They dont have a chance to become athiest,instead the prefer to kill athiests.

    You should be a bit more grateful for the freedom you have,

  18. CW , Savitch et al,

    you guys do more to help the atheist cause than you could ever imagine. Keep up the good work. !!!

  19. Sadly, “the atheist cause”, these days is mostly about attacking genuinely peaceful religions to pave the way for islam. Atheist, people like you are going to get us all killed.

  20. The Koran and the teachings of Islam is a fascist ideology very similar to Nazism, but far worse that Nazism. The Koran is an all out war manual against non believers pure and simple. But trying to educate atheist about Islam, is like trying to break a stone wall down with a plastic hammer. I think he enjoys and prefers being stupid.

    As for Jamal, he is only a fine example of the games Muslims play. (see)

  21. “It was one of the most liberating experiences of my life having had christianity rammed down my throat from about the age of 5.”
    Atheist, fair enough, you were duped in your growing years and fell for the Sin and Hell trick hook, line, and sinker. Get over it.

    AE – “My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment”.
    Letter to M. Berkowitz, October 25, 1950; Einstein Archive 59-215

    We all try to escape pain and death, while we seek what is pleasant. We all are ruled in what we do by impulses, and these impulses are so organized that our actions in general serve for our self-preservation. The world is a better place without Saddam in it and would be a whole lot better without islam. Just take a look at Jamal and consider that Christianity has nothing on islam when it comes to self destructive thinking…

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