Jamaica: Down the way where the nights are gay….

Jamaican Islamic Community Welcomes 7/7 Hate Preacher


Abdullah El-Faisal

* Unfortunately he was not a ‘martyr’- he might have got himself an even bigger funeral…

Before being deported from Britain back to his native Jamaica, Islamic hate preacher Abdullah El-Faisal told young British Muslims it was their duty to kill non-believers, Jews, Hindus and Westerners, urging them to adopt a “jihad mentality”. He also promised schoolboys that they would be rewarded with “72 virgins in paradise” if they died in a holy war. He was the “mentor” for one of the July 7 London bombers.

And he’s being welcomed back to Jamaica with open arms by the Islamic community: Islamic community extends olive branch to el-Faisal.

JAMAICA’S Muslims have made it clear they will welcome reputed hate preacher Abdullah el-Faisal into the community unless he proves himself unworthy, following his deportation to the island last Friday.

“As a Muslim coming back to Jamaica, we welcome him. We welcome any and every Muslim who come here as long as they abide by the rules and regulations that are stipulated,” president of the Islamic Council of Jamaica (ICJ) Mustafa Muhammad told the Sunday Observer.

At the same time, he said they were relieved to learn of el-Faisal’s release from prison.“As a member of Muslim family in general, we are somewhat relieved that he has been released from prison. Just like any family member who has gone to prison and is released, family members will experience joy and relief that he is out,” Muhammad said.

* Prislam,- prison da’awa: The fastest way to find ‘reverts’

“It is now up to that person (who was in prison) to prove whether their going to prison was justified and whether they have learned anything from the term they spent in prison. And actions will prove stronger than words,” he added.

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  1. The Qur’an and Science: Do They Agree?

    By Paul Martin

    Introduction: Issues in Islam.
    The Qur’an is to Muslims the infallible word of God
    that they assert has been perfectly preserved on a
    tablet in heaven. They believe these words were given
    to Muhammad their prophet by the angel Gabriel. See
    Qur’an 10:15, 37; 56:77-79; 69:44-48; 85:21-22. It is
    unchangeable, inerrant, and many Muslims believe in
    the implementation of Islamic shariah law because of
    their view that it is God’s unchangeable word.

    The Qur’an teaches hand amputation for petty theft
    (Qur’an 5:38), that a man can own and have sex with
    slave girls (2:221; 4:3, 24-28; 23:5-6; 33:50-52;
    70:30), allows child marriages (65:4-5, see N.J.
    Dawood’s footnote in his translation), and calls for
    war to be made on Jews and Christians until they are
    either defeated or subjected to humiliating lowliness

    Since the Qur’an makes some very high claims to
    infallibility, then a single error would render the
    whole dogmatic position as fallacious. When the Qur’an
    is held up to the scrutiny of science it does not fare
    very well, because the Qur’an and science give two
    very descriptions of the earth. Much of the style of
    the Qur’an also, is not written like symbolic
    descriptions one would find in the Bible’s Psalm or
    Job about the earth, but is supposedly God’s clear
    revelations to Muhammad for his instruction about the
    world around him.

    But what further complicates this issue is the claim
    by numerous Muslim apologists that the Qur’an is full
    of scientific miracles and insights long before they
    were discovered, which is proof that the Qur’an is
    God’s word. Numerous people have converted to Islam
    after reading these misleading booklets and videos.
    Even some secular scientists (or so we are told) have
    been quoted by the Muslims on their amazement on the
    ‘scientific accuracy’ of the Qur’an.

    Miscellaneous errors.
    The Qur’an has many miscellaneous scientific errors on
    a number of different issues.

    Qur’an 2:261 tells us that every ear of corn has 100
    grains. This has not been proven scientifically and is
    more than obviously false. It brings into question the
    scientific accuracy of the Qur’an and whether the
    Qur’an is really addressing scientific issues.

    Qur’an 27:18, tells the story of a talking ant in the
    time of King Solomon. Ants do not communicates with
    words, but with scent and smell, etc. This is a
    scientific error, regarding nature.

    Muslims, have responded to Christians by saying that
    the Bible is even more absurd where Daniel saw a
    vision of some talking horns on a beast. There is a
    difference, however. Daniel was looking at a symbolic,
    apocalyptic vision that is not meant to be taken
    literally. The Qur’an 27:18, however, is talking about
    an historical incident involving, Solomon, whom the
    Muslims believe was a real prophet in a real event.

    These are not the only absurdities of talking in the
    teachings of Muhammad. In the Hadith (traditions of
    what Muhammad said and did), we find more. We are told
    that stones talked to Muhammad (Bukhari 1, p. vii),
    that food talked to Muhammad while he was eating it
    (Bukhari 4:779) and a tree cried because Muhammad
    would not preach near it (Bukhari 2:41; 4:783). After
    Muhammad comforted the tree, it stopped crying (ibid).
    For this to be true, stones, trees and food would have
    to have at least lungs, a respiratory system, vocal
    cords and a tongue. One has to wonder if you could be
    more absurd than this?

    The Qur’an 5:6, says that if there is no water to
    clean oneself with, you should use sand as a
    substitute for water. Firstly this is very unhygienic,
    since sand is full of dust and is unclean. Even if the
    God of the Qur’an had not been addressing scientific
    issues, one would wonder why he would not know that
    sand is unhygienic and dangerous for one’s health,
    thus warning them against it.

    Genetic myths.
    The Qur’an has many genetic myths about how humans are
    born, etc. The Qur’an 86:6-7 says that semen comes
    from between a man’s backbone and ribs. We know today
    from biology studies that semen comes from the male
    genitalia, so once again, a very inaccurate statement
    coming from the Qur’an.

    In the Hadith, Muhammad was given a revelation from
    the angel Gabriel as to why a child resembles the
    father sometimes, and other times the mother. The
    angel told him that it depends on which parent reaches
    their sexual climax first during conception (Bukhari
    4:546). This has been disproved by genetics.

    The Qur’an also tells us that the prophet Jesus was
    created from dust (3:59) in Mary’s womb (19:20-23).
    Why she did not get tuberculosis with the dust in her
    body seems even more miraculous.

    Miscellaneous errors.
    The Qur’an has other errors of nature, where 51:49,
    says of life in creation, “And of everything we have
    created pairs that ye may reflect” (see also 43:12;
    50:7). So for all animals they are created in pairs.
    This is an obvious denial of the fact that numerous
    species produce asexually, not in pairs.

    The Qur’an also contains scientific anachronisms of
    longevity. The Qur’an 18:25 tells the story of some
    men who slept in a cave for 309 years. Why they did
    not die very soon due to dehydration and lack of
    sunlight is not explained.

    The Qur’an 37:143-144 also talks of how the prophet
    Jonah was swallowed by the fish, this god in the
    Qur’an says, “Had it not been that he repented and
    glorified Allah, he would certainly have remained
    inside the fish till the day of resurrection.” We know
    from scientific, biological studies, that the fish
    (had it not vomited him up) would have digested Jonah,
    which would have seen him dead and defecated out of
    the fish. As for the fish, long before the day of
    resurrection it would have been well and truly dead
    and rotted away.

    Sick myths.
    In the Hadith, Muhammad explains the cause of fever
    and the reason for high body temperatures – they come
    from the fire of hell (Bukhari 4:483, 486). From
    today’s medical studies, we know the real cause of

    The most common cause of fevers is viral infections
    like influenza, as seen in a cold or sore throat. Most
    other fevers (in temperate climates) are from
    bacteria, which affect the respiratory system, bowels,
    urinary tract and intestines. Fevers in tropical
    climates are caused by protozoa (parasites larger than

    The earth is spread out like a carpet.
    The Qur’an 20:53, talks of God who has, “…made the
    earth for you like a carpet spread out…” (see also
    71:19). This could hardly be a clearer way of
    describing the earth as flat. The Qur’an repeatedly
    refers to how the earth is “wide” or “spread out”
    (Qur’an 13:3; 15:19; 18:7; 19:6; 21:30; 35:40; 41:10;
    43:10; 50:7; 51:48; 55:10; 78:6; 79:30; 88:20), which
    is not the language used to describe a round sphere.

    Heavy mountains hold the earth in place.
    Just as one might use some bricks to hold the corners
    of a sheet on the ground in place on a windy day, so
    we are told of the role that mountains play in keeping
    the earth stable. The Qur’an 21:31, “And we have set
    on earth mountains standing firm, lest it should

    So far we are the told that the earth is spread out
    like a carpet with heavy mountains to hold it in

    But further evidence opens up that the Qur’an is
    indeed talking about a flat earth. Qur’an 18:47 says,
    “On that day we shall remove the mountains, and thou
    wilt see the earth as a level stretch…” (see also
    20:104-107). In other words 18:47 & 20:107 are saying
    that once the mountains are removed, we will see to
    the end of the world, which is flat.

    The sky could fall on our heads!
    This god also reassures us in the Qur’an 22:65, that
    “He witholds the sky from falling on the earth except
    by his leave: for Allah is most kind and most merciful
    to man.” The Qur’an is saying that the sky is a hard
    opaque object that could fall and injure/kill us. This
    is certainly how it appeared to ancient people, but
    not what we know from scientific evidence. Perhaps
    this god knew that the earth’s atmosphere was just
    thin air and a mixture of gasses. But this would make
    him into a deceiving god, making an empty threat and
    telling blatant lies!

    The Qur’an 19:90 also says that in regard to
    blasphemies against Islam, the skies are about to
    burst. The Qur’an 34:9 this god says of the pagans,
    “If we wished, we could cause the earth to swallow
    them up, or cause a piece of the sky to fall upon
    them” (see also 52:44). The concept of a hard sky is
    also seen in the way it is described as a canopy
    (Qur’an 2:22; 21:32; 40:64; 79:28), that will one day
    be ripped apart (Qur’an 55:37; 69:16; 73:18; 78:19;

    The Qur’an 70:8 tells us that one day the sky will be
    like molten brass. And one day the sky will be rolled
    up (21:104; 39:67).

    Then the Qur’an unlocks to us a mystery about how the
    heavens and earth were made. In a rhetorical challenge
    to the pagans who rejected Islam, this god says, “Do
    not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth
    were joined together (as one unit of creation), before
    we clove them asunder?”

    So far we are told that the earth is flat, the sky is
    hard and these two hard, opaque objects were once
    joined together, but this god pulled them apart, which
    explains the distance between the earth and sky. This
    is similar to the creation myths of the Australian
    Aborigines and New Zealand Maoris.

    The sun moves around the earth.
    The Qur’an talks of the earth in terms as if it were
    stationary, with the sun and stars moving around the
    earth (Qur’an 2:258; 21:33; 36:40; 52:49; 53:1). “It
    is he who created the night and the day, and the sun
    and the moon: all (celestial bodies) swim along, each
    in it’s rounded course” (21:33). We know today that
    the sun is far bigger than the earth, and is drawing
    the round earth in it’s orbit.

    Where does the sun set?
    Even more conclusive evidence arrives that the Qur’an
    teaches a flat earth, because the sun is very small (a
    lot smaller than the earth), and it rises and sets on
    our flat earth!

    The Qur’an 18:83-98 tells the story of a pious Muslim,
    Zulqarnain (whom many Muslim commentators think is
    Alexander the Great). One day while traveling along,
    we find that, “Until, when, he reached the setting of
    the sun, he found it to set in a spring of murky
    water” (18:86). So Zulqarnain found the sun sets in a
    spring of murky water. This is saying that the earth
    is flat and the sun is very small.

    This is an error of astronomical proportions. Shall I
    belabor the obvious? The sun is far bigger than the
    earth and if it were any closer we would all burn up.
    Many Muslims interpret this to mean that he merely
    looked at the sun from the angle of it setting past a
    pond of murky water, but this is not what the text

    Why Zulqarnain did not go blind or suffer serious eye
    damage is not explained, because he still enough
    eyesight to travel to the other end of the world. He
    traveled, “Until, when he came to the rising of the
    sun, he found it rising on a people for whom we had
    provided no covering protection against the sun”
    (18:90). In other words he found the sun rising on a
    scorched people, because they were nearer to the sun
    than anyone else! This is a clear denial of the round
    earth, where for every morning for everyone on the
    whole earth, the sun’s rays are closer at midday than
    the morning!

    In the Hadith, Muhammad asked some people, “”Do you
    know where this sun goes?” I said, “Allah and his
    Apostle know best.” He said, It goes and asks
    permission to prostrate, and it is allowed, and one
    day it, as if being ordered to return whence it came,
    then it will rise from the west.”” (Bukhari 9:520). He
    is erroneously describing the ‘rising’ and ‘setting’
    of the sun as supernatural phenomena. Not only that,
    he tells us that the sun actually asks this god for
    permission to rise and set! Furthermore, in this
    context, Muhammad was not reciting poetry, but was
    giving the Muslims clear instruction on how the sun
    rises and sets.

    This concept is further supported by the Qur’an
    telling us, “And the sun runs into a resting place…”
    (Qur’an 36:38). We know today from science and
    astronomy that it is the earth that spins, not the

    Pray facing Mecca.
    The flat-earth concept is seen in the fact that
    Muslims have to pray five times a day facing Mecca. To
    pray with you back to Mecca, would be sacrilegious.
    They are not allowed to even go to the toilet facing
    Mecca, either (Bukhari 1:146-151). From a flat-earth
    viewpoint, this makes sense. But we know today, being
    on a spherical globe, that if you pray facing Mecca,
    you have your back to Mecca at the same time (and

    Mountainous myths.
    As if we have not come across enough absurdities
    already, the Qur’an and Hadith teach some monumental
    errors of science that any Muslim would be
    hard-pressed to defend. These scientific errors make a
    mountain out of a molehill.

    In the Hadith, Muhammad referred to the growth of a
    baby horse: “…as anyone of you brings up a baby
    horse, till it becomes like a mountain” (Bukhari
    9:525B). Muhammad is talking plain nonsense and may
    have been hallucinating.

    We are also told that when Muhammad saw the mountain
    of Uhud, he said, “This is the mountain that loves and
    is loved by us” (Bukhari 9:433). Muhammad taught that
    mountains have feelings, emotions and personality. We
    know today that they are dead, senseless rock and
    mineral formations pushed up through continental drift
    and shaped often by volcanoes.

    The Qur’an tells us that once the hills praised his
    god (Qur’an 38:18), and that the mountains were afraid
    (33:72). It talks of the mountains as if they were
    hollow and will one day collapse in Qur’an 19:90;
    56:5; Bukhari 9:75.

    The Qur’an also has some very shady myths about
    clouds. The Qur’an 30:24, says that this god breaks
    the clouds into fragments so that rain can fall. We
    know from science and meteorology that clouds are
    actually water droplets formed through evaporation and
    not hard objects. In 41:11, the clouds also talked to
    this god and said, “We do come together, in willing

    Astronomical errors.
    From astronomical studies, we know more about the
    universe than ever before. There are billions of stars
    in countless galaxies, of which more are being
    discovered all the time. The closest start is 4.5
    light years away and the furtherest stars and galaxies
    are countless billions of light years away. Some these
    stars are very small (such as the white dwarf which is
    roughly the size of the earth), while others are
    massively larger than the sun.

    If these big stars were closer to earth, they would
    drag probably our whole solar system into their orbit,
    and the heat would destroy life on earth. Our very
    survival depends on these stars keeping their

    Let us examine, then, what the Qur’an tells us about
    the stars and where they are in distance from the
    earth. We are told that above the earth there are
    seven heavens/firmaments, each above the other (Qur’an
    2:29; 37:6-7; 67:3; 71:15). But we are then told that
    the sun and the stars are inside the lowest heaven
    (37:6-7; 67:5; 78:12-13)!

    The Qur’an is telling us that the stars are very
    small, and they are inside the sky, or at least the
    equivalent distance that the sun is from the earth.
    The lowest heaven means the closest part to the earth.

    Nevertheless, the Qur’an’s reference to seven heavens
    has been hailed by numerous Muslims as a great
    scientific insight. Harun Yahya, a popular Muslim
    apologist well known for his creationist,
    anti-evolution booklets and assertions that the Qur’an
    has scientific miracles, looks at this. In his
    Miracles of the Qur’an, he claims that the Qur’an is
    giving us insightful scientific instruction on what
    scientists only discovered in the 20th century: that
    the earth’s atmosphere has seven layers (i.e., the
    stratosphere, ionosphere, exosphere, etc). However,
    Yahya completely ignores that the Qur’an also says, to
    be consistent with such a claim, that stars we see are
    to be found in the lowest levels of our atmosphere!

    But we find even more errors regarding stars that
    ought to be of interest to astronomers. We read that
    this god has, “…set out constellations in the
    heavens… And moreover we have guarded them from
    every accursed Satan. But any that gains a hearing by
    stealth, is pursued by a fiery comet…” (Qur’an
    15:16-19; see also 37:6-7; 67:5). The Qur’an is
    telling us that stars and comets chase after evil
    spirits. It seems strange in any case, that these evil
    spirits (that Islam teaches are there to cause man
    mischief) are also millions of light years away,
    letting themselves be chased by enormous stars and
    comets, when they could be perfectly safe on earth.

    The Qur’an tells us about the prophet Abraham. Like
    Jews and Christians, they believe he was an historical
    character. Muslims assert that the Qur’an is the most
    accurate historical record of all prophets. After
    telling us that Abraham survived the flood that was in
    Noah’s time (Qur’an 37:79-83), we read that, “Then did
    he cast a glance at the Stars, and he said, “I am
    indeed sick at heart.” So they turned away from him
    and departed” (37:88-90). Because Abraham felt sick,
    the stars all fled from his presence.

    Is the moon made of green cheese?
    The Qur’an says that moon was cut in half (54:1). The
    Hadith confirms this fairytale, by repeatedly telling
    us that Muhammad cut the moon in half (Bukhari
    4:830-832; 5:208-211; 6:387-390). How Muhammad
    actually did this, we are not told. Why no one else in
    the world saw it we are not told. How he managed to
    cut through hundreds of miles of solid rock we are not
    told. How it put it together again, we are not told.
    Personally, I find it easier to believe that a cow
    jumped over the moon.

    Are their Scientific insights in the Qur’an?
    Harun Yahya confidently shows numerous alleged
    scientific insights, which annulled by the fact that
    other parts of the Qur’an contradict him, or he is
    going beyond what the Qur’anic text is actually
    saying. He quotes the Qur’an 27:88, which says that
    just as clouds pass away, so will mountains. Yahya
    then asserts that the Qur’an is teaching continental
    drift and mountains being pushed upwards – but this is
    not what the text is saying.

    He quotes the Qur’an 75:4, where this god says in
    regard to the resurrection, “Nay, We are able to put
    together in perfect order the very tips of his
    fingers.” He then thinks that the Qur’an is giving
    insight into what was discovered centuries later –
    that we all have unique fingerprints, with no two
    alike. But is this really what the text is actually

    Can you stomach this?
    In a debate against Christianity, Islamic apologist,
    Ahmed Deedat asserted that Muslims were the most
    hygienic people on earth. Perhaps they are today, but
    their founder was not, and should be considered
    neither a role model nor an example of being hygienic.

    Muhammad said that camel’s urine should be drank as
    medicine for those who are feeling sick (Bukhari
    1:234). He sometimes spat on his clothes (1:242). He
    let people catch his own spit and then rub it on their
    faces and skin (3:891). To someone else, he ejected a
    mouthful of water on them (1:188). After washing
    himself, Muhammad would give his dirty water to his
    followers to drink and smear themselves with

    The Qur’an gives a challenge to those who would refute
    it: “Do they not ponder on the Qur’an? Had it been
    from other than Allah, they would surely have found
    therein much discrepancy” (4:82).

    As regarding science, as well as history, we find
    therein much discrepancy. Both contradictions within
    the Qur’an, as well as scientific errors bring into
    question that really wrote it. What could not
    necessarily be refuted in Muhammad’s time has been
    refuted in our age of science and advanced knowledge.

    Further online reading:
    Refutes the myth of scientific insights regarding
    embryology in the Qur’an.
    http://answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Contra Gives a
    list of errors, internal contradictions as well as
    scientific errors in the Qur’an.
    Reveals that even in modern times, numerous Muslims
    have defended the flat-earth theory, based on what the
    Qur’an says.
    http://thriceholy.net/ A Trinity defense site, with a
    thorough section on Islam doing a critical study of
    the Qur’an and its textual errors.
    Denis Giron, an atheist, takes a hard critical look at
    scientific errors in Islam.
    http://atheism.about.com/cs/islamandthekora/ A
    critical, scholarly examination of the Qur’anic text.
    Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Meaning of the Illustrious
    Qur’an. New Dehli, India: Kitabbhavan, 2000.
    Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, The Translation of the
    Meanings of Sahih Al-Bukhari (nine volumes). Islamic
    University, Medina Al-Munawarra. Dar AHYA Us-Sunnah,
    Harun Yahya, Miracles of the Qur’an, video production.
    Birmingham, UK: IPC, Islamic Vision.
    William Campbell, The Qur’an and the Bible in light of
    history and science, 2nd edition. Upper Darby: Middle
    East Resources, 2002.
    Translation Note:
    There are several translations of the Qur’an, most of
    whom are by Muslims with a certain degree of trying to
    translate embarrassing passages to cover over errors.
    For example Yusuf Ali’s translation (which I have been
    using for the article) frequently adds words in
    brackets, which are not found in the text. Where the
    Qur’an recommends that men should “beat them” [their
    wives], Yusuf Ali translates “beat them (lightly)”
    which is not in the text, etc.

    The best translation that is the most open-minded is
    N.J. Dawood’s The Koran, published by Penguin
    Classics. He has helpful footnotes that explain
    problems with the Qur’an (aka Koran), and avoids the
    deceptive bias found in most other translations

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