‘Isa’- the Muslim Jesus

* Today we increasingly hear and read that Christianity and Islam ‘share’ Jesus, that he belongs to both religions.So also with Abraham: there is talk of the West’s ‘Abrahamic civilization’ where once people spoke of ‘Judeo-Christian civilization’. This shift of thinking reflects the growing influence of Islam.


* But “Isa’-, Muhammad’s perverted Jesus, has nothing in common with the Jesus of the Christians:

‘Isa’ Will Abolish Christianity

‘Muslims believe Jesus will come back, break the cross and lead the war against the kaffirs’-

There’s more: Jesus will come back, break the cross, kill the swine and abolish the jiziyah.

The swine, that’s us folks, just in case you’re wondering.

The killing of the swine is so that the “Christian belief of its lawfulness is belied.” The reason for abolishing the jizyah tax (the compulsory poll-tax that non-Muslims must pay in order to live in a Muslim land) is based on the idea that when Jesus returns, the jizyah tax will no longer be accepted. The only choice that Christians will have is to accept Islam or die.

* Here’s a summary:

Let’s review the various defining characteristics and actions of the Muslim Jesus upon his return to the earth:

1. Jesus is said to return to the earth in the last-days near a mosque in Damascus.

2. He will arrive at a time when the Mahdi and his army will be preparing to pray.

3. He will be offered to lead the prayer by the Mahdi, but will decline in direct deference to the Mahdi who Jesus declares to be the leader of the Muslims.

4. He will then pray behind the Mahdi as a subordinate.

5. He will be a faithful Muslim

6. He will make pilgrimage to Mecca.

7. He will visit Muhammad’s grave, and salute Muhammad, whereby Muhammad will return the salute from the grave.

8. He will destroy Christianity.

9. He will repeal the jizyah tax thus causing the only option for Jews and Christians to convert to Islam or die.

10. He will establish Islamic Shari’ah (Law) throughout the entire earth.

11. He will kill the Antichrist and his followers made up largely of Jews and women.

12. He will remain on the earth for roughly forty years, during which time he will marry, have children and then die.

As we have clearly seen, the Muslim Jesus, in both his nature and actions is far different than the biblical Jesus. Rather than coming to reign as King and Messiah over all the earth from Jerusalem, Jesus instead comes to convert the world to Islam or kill those who refuse to do so. Instead of coming to save and deliver faithful Christians and Jews, he comes instead to kill and slaughter them.

Read it all:

the official organ of the Jami’at al-‘Ulama of Delhi, al-Jam’iyya, dated 20th Nov. 1932, wrote in reply to certain Christian missionaries:

“The person whom the Christians erroneously take for the Messiah was really the enemy of the Messiah and he has nothing to do with Islam and the Quran. Nor does any Muslim believe in him.”

‘Isa, the Muslim Jesus

Now read from Surah 5: 72-75.

72. They do blaspheme who say: “(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary.” But said Christ: “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrongdoers be no one to help.

73. They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from the word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.

74. Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oftforgiving, Most Merciful.

75. Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!

Again we can read in the Hadith that they say Jesus was not God but just man and will judge Christians who believe differently. -Hadith 4:657

Allah is the Best of Deceivers.” Jesus of Nazareth is an historical personage. Issa of the Qur’an is an ahistorical fiction. The mother of the Islamic Jesus is Mary–Maryam, the Miriam of our Old Testament (Tanakh, if you will), who is the sister of Moses and Aaron! Eighteen Centuries between Moses and Jesus are juxtaposed! That, and a host of other anachronisms and revisions–RIDICULOUS!!

* Indeed. But the difference between us and them is that they kill and die for this shit. And we live in denial!


* No, Yusuf: we have nothing in common.

Anyhow: Lets celebrate diversity:


44 thoughts on “‘Isa’- the Muslim Jesus”

  1. * 1. Jesus is said to return to the earth in the last-days near a mosque in Damascus.

    This is the warning Jesus gave of false christs and false prophets who would appear in the last-days, and deceive many …

    Mark 13:21/22 – “And then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ’; or, ‘Behold, He is there’; do not believe him; for false Christs and false prophets will arise, and will show signs and wonders, in order to lead astray, if possible, the elect.”

    … when it comes to false prophets, they don’t come much falser than Mo.

  2. Did Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him-pbuh)speak English? Greek? or Hebrew?

    If he did speak Hebrew as he was a Jew then how come none had in his lifetime ever called him Jesus? Because Jesus was not a Hebrew or Jewish name, His real name was “Yeshua” from which you get the word “YESU”pronounced as “ee-ay-su” “h” is silent and in Arabic which is a sister language of Hebrew “Yeshua” or “YESU”is called as “Isa” pronounced as “eey-sa” which was much later latinized as JESUS, so if you ever meet him on his 2nd coming and you call out “ Jesus my Lord & My God” he will never look at you! He wouldn’t know whom your calling! Because it was not his name.
    It’s what his father and mother and his brothers and sisters called him and it’s how his followers knew him. Probably the name was pronounced in the rough regional dialect of Galilee as ‘Yesu’…”eesu” (Akenson, 2000, p. 57).
    ISLAM’s Prophet Mohammad(Pbuh) and 1.3 Billion Muslims got it right as always but 1.5 Billion so called followers of Jesus got it all wrong! They don’t even know their so called God’s name!

    Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) is not the author of the Quran, he was only a prophet and a human being to whom God’s revalation came. The Quran rightly talks of Mary (Pbuh) with much respect and calls her as a “Woman Chosen above all nations” or “best of womenkind” God does not confuse names & times like you Christians do, he rightly Calls “ISA Son Of Mary” or in your words “Jesus Son of Mary”.

    If you would like to learn more about the real Jesus contact me on alliedint@eureka.lk

    I will be more than happy to open your eyes to the real Gospel of Jesus!

  3. MY GOD IS JESUS NOT ALLAH. If allah is muslim for jesus then it is so. But his proper name is jesus. He is the son of mary and came to set his captives free. He loves everyone around the world even muslims. They are all his children even if they say no. On the cross he said “Father forgive they know not what they do”. If your god (allah) is so merciful then why will he kill christians and jews. for doing right. Our god is forgiving. He natively spoke herbrew but he understands all.

  4. jesus kills those who will come to kill his friends .Jews have never believed in jesus they are responsible as u believe for sending jesus to cross so this time they will come to eliminate him again so naturally in self defense he will fight to protect himself .Jesus and Muslims kill to make sure they are not eliminated .As far as the christians are concerned they will actually most of them shall convert to Islam when they will see jesus descend from the heavens at the end of days .I really dont wish to make any one angry over here i am just trying to help by adding more truth to the story. Be at peace children of Abraham

  5. Jesus Christ is the son of God, saad. “allah” has no son, and is not god,
    only one of satan’s sockpuppets. I doubt that islam will exist after the
    battles described in Ezekiel 38 & 39 take place – the Jews will be kept
    busy for some time marking & burying the bodies & body parts of the
    invading jihadis, in order to cleanse the Holy Land (Israel).

    “allah” and his false prophet Mo specifically deny that Jesus Christ was crucified, so there is little point in muslims like you attributing His death to Jews, since the “holy” koran blasphemously denies
    that it happened.

    Get it right – see sura 4:157

    By the way, Christians won’t convert to islam when Jesus Christ
    returns to catch up the dead and living saints – muslims will be
    left behind to endure the Great Tribulation, & most will be

    “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with
    the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the
    dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain
    will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the
    Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.”
    (1 Thessalonians 4:16&17)

    Nothing whatsoever to do with blasphemous muslims, islam, or
    its false prophet and his lies and blasphemies.

  6. Allah is the Arabic word for God, just as every language has their own word. Our Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of the Living God. The only way to the only true God is through our Lord Jesus Christ. Rejection of this truth will result in receiving the ultimate penalty, which is HELL.

  7. can i just say, that when it says swine, it actually means pig. you know the actual meaning. because in islam it is a sin to eat pig, so when Isa returns he will kill one to show that eating them is wrong.

  8. 1. Jesus is said to return to the earth in the last-days near a mosque in Damascus.

    If muslims had heeded the words of the prophets of God, let alone the Son of God, they would find the following prophecy, making it unlikely that a counterfeit Jesus will return to Damascus …

    “The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.” – prophet Isaiah 17:1

  9. The poster above who posts under “hello” appears to be a simple soul who doesn’t know much about his religion.

    Perhaps he should learn to do some close reading, or research a subject matter before commenting on it. But nobody reads anything anymore these days, not even bills with 2000 pages that need to be signed so “people can find out what’s in it”.

    For us old-fashioned folk who likes to know what we’re talking about I’m afraid we have to keep slaving away, hoping to wake some sleeping dogs.

    But before I despair, please take your time and watch Bat Yeor describing beautifully the Islamic perspective, here on youtube:

    Bat Ye’or at the Vienna Forum, May 9, 2010

    Bat Ye’Or’s video illustrates again the dichotomy or dualism of Islam. Islam claims Jesus as “Isa”, a muslim prophet, denying the existence of biblical history as Islam claims all biblical figures and history as Muslim. Additionally claiming all existence prior to biblical & Judaic times, all were Muslim.

    At the same time, Islam destroys or erases remnants of history and historic artifacts that reflect specific religious cultural existence because they are jahiliyya, representing the pre-Islamic age of ignorance.

    Again, playing both sides of the fence, Islam confesses a period of Jahiliyya (pre-Islamic)existed and is not worthy of preservation or acknowledgement yet claims people of the book and those that came prior to the biblical period were all Muslims.

    Fitzgerald: History and Jahiliyya

  10. Yehoshuwa is the original hebrew name,
    Yeshua is the aramaic short form.
    isa is arabic version,
    the english Jesus is from the greek version Iesus.
    allah is just another title for god in arabic, malayan
    and bahasa indonesian,
    If allah is the NAME of your god, than you’re talking
    about the moon-god.
    isa and mary of the quran are not the same as Yeshua and
    Miriam in the Bible.
    The transfer of the quran is contaminated anyway.
    Yeshua spoke mostly aramaic, but also hebrew, greek and latin
    during the earthly life, but knows (now) all languages anyway!

  11. Muslim’s Jesus and christian jesus, both are same with different name christian call him jesus while muslim call him Isa.

    christians are more near to muslims then jews.

    jews are the enemy of both muslims and christians.

    muslims and christians should unite against jews.

  12. * Muslim’s Jesus and christian jesus, both are same

    Really, Ahsan? It’s amazing what can be learned on here sometimes 🙂

    The muslim “Isa” is not the son of the muslim god, while Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and has a number of titles, including Lion of the Tribe of Judah (Revelation 5:5).

    * jews are the enemy of both muslims and christians

    Really? If Jesus Christ is the King of the Jews, the Messiah, would it not logically follow that Jesus Christ is the enemy of “both muslims and christians”?

    * muslims and christians should unite against jews.

    Really? The Jews are descendants of Abram / Abraham, and in a covenant relationship with God, who will bless those who bless the Jews, and curse those who curse the Jews. (Revelation 5:5)

    Bring down the curse of God upon yourself and muslims if you must, but Christians have no mandate to boast against the natural branches, and are warned against doing so (Romans 11:17)

    “And if some of the branches be broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them partake of the root and fatness of the olive tree;”

    Oh, and if you want to unite against Jews, then you will have the opportunity to take part in Ezekiel’s battle (Ezekiel 38 / 39), or Armagedddon (Revelation 16:16), but this is not recommended.

    “And they gathered them together into the place which is called in Hebrew Har-Magedon.”

    islam is doomed.

  13. u talked about somethings r going to do in the future to be fair read about jesus in bible and quran u r gonna know that jesus in bible he is the one in the quran

  14. u need to know that people said son of god about the the man who obey god jesus never said worship me or we r three gods in one im sure thats true jesus would talked about it and explain it in bible

  15. Did Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him-pbuh)speak English? Greek? or Hebrew?

    If he did speak Hebrew as he was a Jew then how come none had in his lifetime ever called him Jesus? Because Jesus was not a Hebrew or Jewish name, His real name was “Yeshua” from which you get the word “YESU”pronounced as “ee-ay-su” “h” is silent and in Arabic which is a sister language of Hebrew “Yeshua” or “YESU”is called as “Isa” pronounced as “eey-sa” which was much later latinized as JESUS, so if you ever meet him on his 2nd coming and you call out “ Jesus my Lord & My God” he will never look at you! He wouldn’t know whom your calling! Because it was not his name.
    It’s what his father and mother and his brothers and sisters called him and it’s how his followers knew him. Probably the name was pronounced in the rough regional dialect of Galilee as ‘Yesu’…”eesu” (Akenson, 2000, p. 57).
    ISLAM’s Prophet Mohammad(Pbuh) and 1.3 Billion Muslims got it right as always but 1.5 Billion so called followers of Jesus got it all wrong! They don’t even know their so called God’s name!

    Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) is not the author of the Quran, he was only a prophet and a human being to whom God’s revalation came. The Quran rightly talks of Mary (Pbuh) with much respect and calls her as a “Woman Chosen above all nations” or “best of womenkind” God does not confuse names & times like you Christians do, he rightly Calls “ISA Son Of Mary” or in your words “Jesus Son of Mary”.

    If you would like to learn more about the real Jesus contact me on alliedint@eureka.lk

    I will be more than happy to open your eyes to the real Gospel of Jesus!

  16. * I will be more than happy to open your eyes to the real Gospel of Jesus!

    The Holy Spirit opened my eyes to Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for me, and helps me to see through fakes like you, peddling another gospel, which is anathema.

    islam is doomed, along with its “god”, false prophet, and deluded followers. Flee from it – run for your life!

  17. * if you ever meet him on his 2nd coming and you call out “ Jesus my Lord & My God” he will never look at you!

    Really? So the Shepherd is incapable of recognising his sheep?

    Maybe you should ask Him – would He recognise you, human?
    If so, on what basis?

    “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give them eternal life; they will never come to destruction, and no one will ever take them out of my hand.” – Jesus Christ, the Son of God
    ( john 10:27 & 28)

    Who do you follow, human? Jesus Christ, or the false prophet Mo?

    Think carefully – Jesus Christ gives eternal life, based on His sacrificial death and resurrection. “allah” and its false prophet give no such thing.

  18. Human,
    you are a muslim cretin – piss off! BTW Mohammed was a rapist, murderer and general criminal. The very fact you follow him shows your worth. Get lost!!!

  19. Ahsan,
    I am proud to call Jewish people my friends. We have more in common with the Jewish folk than with the rabid, hateful, murderous scum that represent islam and the delusional uttering of a rapist and murderer.

  20. Bad reading Ahsan,
    the biblical jesus and the quranical isa are different and are both
    limitations of the YHWH manifestation due to human scriptural interpretation.
    Human did not read well either; Yeshua spoke aramaic, hebrew,
    greek and latin then, but speaks all languages NOW.
    To believe in the quran as the last revelation of god puts muhammed
    on the same level as joseph smith with the book of mormon and
    family radio with allegorical numeral revelations.
    They all lack the indwelling, revelation, charisma and guidance of
    the YHWH Ruach.

  21. Those people are F*cked up! I am Muslim and in the Quran it says that we should respect Jesus, a true Muslim believes in him, if not, he’s not a true Muslim, those idiots in the picture are not true Muslims!

  22. * a true Muslim believes in him

    Really, Leen? Does a true muslim believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and was crucified for our sins, or does a true muslim mock, blaspheme and deny, like those in the picture above?

    Your eternal destiny hinges upon your answer.

  23. Official numbers of christians & muslims;
    2.3 billion christians and 1,5 billion muslims, (human was wrong).

    muslims believe in isa, who can not be proven to be the biblical Yeshua.

    Religious people are always limited because they only have their books & scriptures without inspiration, revelation, guidance and
    experience of the Ruach which leaves them with dead religion, mass
    indoctrination and fanaticism.

  24. What a fucking BullShit you’re wrote on your site.!
    Abraham, Jacob, and Jesus is not an Arab.! They are Israeli.!
    You have been foolish by your god damned prophet Muhammad who only love to fuck so many woman, even the under age girl.! What a bloody shame to a kind of prophet do such a thing like that.! Islam, Moslem or Arabian Nation shall not rule the world.! Al-Qur’an is a fucking BullShit.!

  25. If “allah” is the Arabic equivalent of the noun “god” in English (as opposed to “God,” which I assume is considered a proper noun/name), when Muslims say, “There is no god but Allah,” they’re actually saying, “There is no god but God,” or, even sillier, “There is no allah but Allah.”

    In response to those who say that MooHamHead (pigsnot be upon him) believed in Jesus and so do all Muslims, I say big deal. Satan believes in Jesus, too. Satan hates Jesus and is His adversary, but in order to hate Him and fight Him, he must believe in him. Believing in Jesus doesn’t make one a follower of Jesus.

  26. Human and Ahsan: I also am proud to be friends with Jewish people, and true, we have much, much more in common with the Jewish people than with the vile, hateful, murderous followers of that POS MoHamMAd(Piss be Upon Him) that represents islam and the delusional ravings of a paedophile, serial rapist and mass murderer. Islam is a vile hateful death cult and there are no virgins in heaven because according to your vile religion, no woman may die a virgin, so she is raped before death (done in Iran to women and girl prisoners before the death penalty is carried out.) So your vile religion is one huge POS(piece of SH!ITE) and so are you and your fellow Islaminfidels.

  27. AuntieMadder,

    Elohim, god or allah are all titles.
    If allah is a name, than it is the name of the (ancient) moongod.
    The name of El Shaddai is (most likely) Iahveh.

  28. Jesus was a Jew, always was. Jewish people are a part of the Arabic family of man. I would put money on that if you take blood from a Jew or a Palistinian, or an Egyptain, you would get the same result. As you would for much of Africa and the Middle East.

    Jesus worshipped in the Temple of his forefathers where incidentally the “no account muslims” placed their mosque. This is a travesty and probably the first to go if they ever try to have a go at Israel. They follow Abraham. He was the one who was prepared to cut the throat of his own son. Only son. Probably partaking of the Desert Lemon which causes halucinations. There was a lot of this going on through history. We have magic mushrooms, they had the lemon tree. So what! Also said to have been the Tree of Knowledge when Eve ate from it.

    Jesus spoke Aramaic, Greek (as did many of the Apostles) and probably Latin as well. Rome controlled this region at the time, so why not. There was a great diaspora of Greeks since Egypt by then was ruled by the Ptolemy dynasty from the time of Alexander 111 of Macedon.

    The great significance of Jesus is his Nobility and his Rabbinic legacy through his mother Mary to the House of David. He walked with women, he talked with them and he loved them. He wanted a better deal for them. If you ever have a chance to read the songs of Solomon you will know the depth of love this King had for women. There was a tradition of respect toward women.

    Jesus ushered in a new deal for women and men. He taught a message of love instead of hate. A change in the world order which is being fulfilled, slowly. Unfortunately Muslims have never heard this message and are never likely to. They are a dead cult. which is perishing as we watch world events unfold. To even mention the name of Jesus from a muslim is offencive.

    What would any muslim know about Jesus? They were just a johnny-come-lately hotch potch of tribal uncouth, brigands, and murderous scum who came along 600 years later . They have never changed – never will.

    But, it is very interesting to see this week that the whole lot of them cant stand living in their Islamic regeimes. They all want out. So, it cant be all that good. Is this the best they got?

  29. The photo of the woman with the crucifix shoved down her throat is the one I was trying to send you earlier this week Sheik

  30. The Sharia Catechism

    What does Islam teach? Islam teaches that it is the final revelation from God, and the only legitimate world religion. All other faiths, or secular world views, are either idol-worship, blasphemous parodies of Islam, or degenerate perversions of it.

    When was Islam founded? Islam was founded when Abraham made his covenant with God. The Jews who claimed that this covenant constituted Judaism are lying (as is their wont), and relying on faked scriptures that their scheming ancestors crafted to suit their own ethnic aggrandizement.

    Where are the original scriptures recounting the history of Abraham, Moses, and other early Muslims? These original scriptures no longer exist. They were destroyed and replaced by the crafty Jews.

    Who was Jesus? Jesus (Isa) was a Muslim prophet who came as the Messiah to recall the faithless Jews to their Muslim faith. The true accounts of his life and message were altered beyond recognition by the scheming Christians—who also spread the lie that he was crucified, and rose from the dead.

    Where are these original Gospels? These original Gospels were destroyed by the early Christians (who were also, we must remember, Jews), shortly after they were written—in order to cover up their clear predictions of the coming of Muhammad.

    Will Jesus come again at the end of the world? Yes, Jesus will come again to destroy Christianity, kill all the pigs in the world, and end dhimmitude—by forcing all Christians either to convert to Islam or be killed (like the pigs).

    What is the proper treatment of non-Muslims? When Muslims are weak, they should practice tolerance of unbelievers, and ask for similar tolerance. As they grow in numbers, they must harden their attitudes as Muhammad hardened his once he commanded an army in Medina. Muslims should spread their faith by conquest; by preaching; and by emigrating to non-Muslim countries and demanding tolerance—then once they are strong enough, they should impose the true faith on the government where they can. Polytheists should then be allowed to convert or else be killed; monotheist infidels such as Jews and Christians should be offered a third option: Utter, willing subjection to Muslims, with their obedience binding on pain of death. These non-believers must pay a special, heavy tax and keep quiet about their religion, not trying to spread it.

    So if Jews accept their proper role as dhimmis, they are in theory welcome in Muslim societies? Yes and no. In theory, yes. In practice, no. The atrocity of Zionist control of the Muslim holy city of Jerusalem is so great that no Jews should remain in Muslim countries. They are simply too crafty and dangerous.

    Is sharia law an intrinsic part of Islam? Yes, it is as basic to Muslims as the Torah is to Jews and the sacraments are to Orthodox and Catholics. It is how Muslims live out their faith in the world.

    Must Muslims seek to impose sharia? Only where it seems likely they will succeed. Until then, they should deceive the unbelievers, as Islamic ethics allow.

    What about Muslims who oppose sharia and religious discrimination? They are bad Muslims, and they will burn in hell with all the Christians, Jews, and idol-worshippers. But we should not say this openly until we are strong enough throughout the West. Until then, it benefits us to highlight such people, and claim that they are representative.

    What about those who oppose Islam? They are enemies of God who deserve death in this life and eternal punishment in the next. However, if it helps us fight them more effectively, we can call them “racists,” “xenophobes,” and “Islamophobe.”

    What is an Islamophobe? An Islamophobe is someone who opposes sharia, and is unwilling either to convert or beg for the protection of dhimmitude.

    Whom should we call an Islamophobe? Anyone who gets in our way. (More)

  31. * Yes, Jesus will come again to destroy Christianity, kill all the pigs in the world, and end dhimmitude—by forcing all Christians either to convert to Islam or be killed (like the pigs).

    Not the Biblical Jesus, but has some similarities with a named impostor:

    “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.” (Revelation 13:7 – referring to the Beast)

  32. Islam was intended for good use, but EVERY race has the good and bad. I could sit here and list them, but I’d rather not. ‘Terrorism’ (a word used to describe this by the late American president George W. Bush, whom no one was fond of) is just a bad ‘side of the coin’, if you will. Christians have gangs and such, Muslims have terrorists, and et cetera.

    And in the words of our Savior, ” He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone..”

    God bless.

    1. Isa, the Muslim Jesus by Mark Durie

      Islam is not a race and it was not intended ‘for good use’. It is an evil ideology that seeks to eliminate ‘the other’ and to dominate the world.

      In the “authentic” Muslim Hadith, the Anti-Christ is deemed to be Jewish. Jesus comes back to defeat him near Lod, in modern day Israel, and march on in triumph to Jerusalem, with an army of Muslims. In the final battle between Jews and Muslims, a terrible slaughter will be wreaked upon the Jews, who are so accursed that even the stones will be yelling out to the Muslims, “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.”

      How can someone who advocates this retrogressive and sanguinary concept of the end of days, repudiated decades ago, be a genuine champion of modern day tolerance? This sounds like a Hitler-like Final Solution.

      Sounds like?

      No. It is every Muslims wet dream.

  33. I can’t believe muslims that post on this web-site all it shows is how utterly rediculous, foolish, stupid people make like these and all it proves that they are indeed a bunch of morons.

  34. Jesus prophesied Muhammad in the Bible

    The False Prophet Mohammed and the ‘Abrahamic Religions’ scam
    Matthew 7
    King James Version:

    Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

    Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

    A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

    Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

    Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

  35. Isa, the Muslim Jesus by Dr Mark Durie

    “The word Christian is not a valid word, for there is no religion of Christianity according to Islam”. � http://www.answering-christianity.com

    Today we increasingly hear and read that Christianity and Islam �share� Jesus, that he belongs to both religions. So also with Abraham: there is talk of the West�s �Abrahamic civilization� where once people spoke of �Judeo-Christian civilization�. This shift of thinking reflects the growing influence of Islam.

    These notes offer some information and reflections on the �Muslim Jesus�, to help put this trend in its proper context.

    References in brackets are to the Qur�an. Numbering systems for the Qur�anic verses are not standardized: be prepared to search through nearby verses for the right one.

    Islam the primordial faith

    Islam regards itself, not as a subsequent faith to Judaism and Christianity, but as the primordial religion, the faith from which Judaism and Christianity are subsequent developments. In the Qur�an we read that Abraham �was not a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a monotheist, a Muslim� (�l ‘Imran 3:66). So it is Muslims, and not Christians or Jews, who are the true representatives of the faith of Abraham to the world today. (Al-Baqarah 2:135)

    The Biblical prophets were all Muslims

    Many prophets of the past received the one religion of Islam. (Ash-Shura 42:13) Who were these previous prophets? According to Al-An�am 6:85-87 they include Ibrahim (Abraham), �Ishaq (Issac), Yaqub (Jacob), Nuh (Noah), Dawud (David), Sulaiman (Solomon), Ayyub (Job), Yusuf (Joseph), Musa (Moses), Harun (Aaron), Zakariyya (Zachariah), Yahya (John the Baptist), �Isa (Jesus), Ilyas, Ishmael, Al-Yash�a (Elisha), Yunus (Jonah) and Lut (Lot).

    The Muslim �Isa (Jesus)

    There are two main sources for �Isa, the Muslim Jesus. The Qur�an gives a history of his life, whilst the Hadith collections � recollections of Muhammad�s words and deeds � establish his place in the Muslim understanding of the future.

    The Qur�an

    �Isa, was a prophet of Islam

    Jesus� true name, according to the Qur�an, was �Isa. His message was pure Islam, surrender to Allah. (�l ‘Imran 3:84) Like all the Muslim prophets before him, and like Muhammad after him, �Isa was a lawgiver, and Christians should submit to his law. (�l ‘Imran 3:50; Al-Ma�idah 5:48) �Isa�s original disciples were also true Muslims, for they said �We believe. Bear witness that we have surrendered. We are Muslims.� (Al-Ma�idah 5:111)

    �The Books�

    Like other messengers of Islam before him, �Isa received his revelation of Islam in the form of a book. (Al-An�am 6:90) �Isa�s book is called the Injil or �gospel�. (Al-Ma�idah 5:46) The Torah was Moses� book, and the Zabur (Psalms) were David�s book. So Jews and Christians are �people of the Book�. The one religion revealed in these books was Islam. (�l ‘Imran 3:18)

    As with previous prophets, �Isa�s revelation verified previous prophets� revelations. (�l ‘Imran 3:49,84; Al-Ma�idah 5:46; As-Saff 61:6) Muhammad himself verified all previous revelations, including the revelation to �Isa (An-Nisa� 4:47), and so Muslims must believe in the revelation which �Isa received. (Al-Baqarah 2:136) However, after �Isa the Injil was lost in its original form. Today the Qur�an is the only sure guide to �Isa�s teaching.

    The biography of �Isa

    According to the Qur�an, �Isa was the Messiah. He was supported by the �Holy Spirit�. (Al-Baqarah 2:87; Al-Ma�idah 5:110) He is also referred to as the �Word of Allah�. (An-Nisa� 4:171)

    �Isa�s mother Mariam was the daughter of �Imran, (�l ‘Imran 3:34,35) � cf the Amram of Exodus 6:20 � and the sister of Aaron (and Moses). (Maryam 19:28) She was fostered by Zachariah (father of John the Baptist). (�l ‘Imran 3:36) While still a virgin (Al-An�am 6:12; Maryam 19:19-21) Mariam gave birth to �Isa alone in a desolate place under a date palm tree. (Maryam 19:22ff) (Not in Bethlehem).

    �Isa spoke whilst still a baby in his cradle. (�l ‘Imran 3:46; Al-Ma�idah 5:110; Maryam 19:30) He performed various other miracles, including breathing life into clay birds, healing the blind and lepers, and raising the dead. (�l ‘Imran 3:49; Al-Ma�idah 5:111) He also foretold the coming of Muhammad. (As-Saff 61:6)

    �Isa did not die on a cross

    Christians and Jews have corrupted their scriptures. (�l ‘Imran 3:74-77, 113) Although Christians believe �Isa died on a cross, and Jews claim they killed him, in reality he was not killed or crucified, and those who said he was crucified lied (An-Nisa� 4:157). �Isa did not die, but ascended to Allah. (An-Nisa� 4:158) On the day of Resurrection �Isa himself will be a witness against Jews and Christians for believing in his death. (An-Nisa� 4:159)

    Christians should accept Islam, and all true Christians will

    Christians (and Jews) could not be freed from their ignorance until Muhammad came bringing the Qur�an as clear evidence (Al-Bayyinah 98:1). Muhammad was Allah�s gift to Christians to correct misunderstandings. They should accept Muhammad as Allah�s Messenger, and the Qur�an as his final revelation. (Al-Ma�idah 5:15; Al-Hadid 57:28; An-Nisa� 4:47)

    Some Christians and Jews are faithful and believe truly. (�l ‘Imran 3:113,114) Any such true believers will submit to Allah by accepting Muhammad as the prophet of Islam, i.e. they will become Muslims. (�l ‘Imran 3:198)

    Although Jews and pagans will have the greatest enmity against Muslims, it is the Christians who will be �nearest in love to the believers�, i.e. to Muslims. (Al-Ma�idah 5:82) True Christians will not love Muhammad�s enemies. (Al-Mujadilah 58:22) In other words, anyone who opposes Muhammad is not a true Christian.

    Christians who accept Islam or refuse it

    Some Jews and Christians are true believers, accepting Islam: most are transgressors. (�l ‘Imran 3:109)

    Many monks and rabbis are greedy for wealth and prevent people from coming to Allah. (At-Taubah 9:34,35)

    Christians and Jews who disbelieve in Muhammad will go to hell. (Al-Bayyinah 98:6)

    Muslims should not take Christians or Jews for friends. (Al-Ma�idah 5:51)

    They must fight against Christians and Jews who refuse Islam until they surrender, pay the poll-tax and are humiliated. (At-Taubah 9:29) To this may be added hundreds of Qur�anic verses on the subject of jihad in the path of Allah, as well as the �Book of Jihad� found in all Hadith collections.

    Christian beliefs

    Christians are commanded not to believe that �Isa is the son of God: �It is far removed from his transcendent majesty that he should have a son�. (An-Nisa� 4:171; Al-Furqan 25:2) �Isa was simply a created human being, and a slave of Allah. (An-Nisa� 4:172; �l ‘Imran 3:59)

    Christians are claimed by the Qur�an to believe in a family of gods � Father God, mother Mary and �Isa the son � but �Isa rejected this teaching. (Al-Ma�idah 5:116) The doctrine of the Trinity is disbelief and a painful doom awaits those who believe it. (Al-Ma�idah 5:73)

    �Isa (Jesus) in the Hadith

    �Isa the destroyer of Christianity

    The prophet �Isa will have an important role in the end times, establishing Islam and making war until he destroys all religions save Islam. He shall kill the Evil One (Dajjal), an apocalyptic anti-Christ figure.

    In one tradition of Muhammad we read that no further prophets will come to earth until �Isa returns as �a man of medium height, or reddish complexion, wearing two light garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head although it will not be wet. He will fight for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill pigs, and abolish the poll-tax. Allah will destroy all religions except Islam. He (�Isa) will destroy the Evil One and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die�. (Sunan Abu Dawud, 37:4310) The Sahih Muslim has a variant of this tradition: �The son of Mary … will soon descend among you as a just judge. He will … abolish the poll-tax, and the wealth will pour forth to such an extent that no one will accept charitable gifts.� (Sahih Muslim 287)

    What do these sayings mean? The cross is a symbol of Christianity. Breaking crosses means abolishing Christianity. Pigs are associated with Christians. Killing them is another way of speaking of the destruction of Christianity. Under Islamic law the poll-tax buys the protection of the lives and property of conquered �people of the Book�. (At-Taubah 9:29) The abolition of the poll-tax means jihad is restarted against Christians (and Jews) living under Islam, who should convert to Islam, or else be killed or enslaved. The abundance of wealth refers to booty flowing to the Muslims from this conquest. This is what the Muslim �Isa will do when he returns in the last days.

    Muslim jurists confirm these interpretations: consider, for example, the ruling of Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri (d. 1368).

    “… the time and the place for [the poll tax] is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus’ descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace) …” (The Reliance of the Traveller. Trans. Nuh Ha Mim Keller, p. 603).

    Ibn Naqib goes on to state that when Jesus returns, he will rule �as a follower� of Muhammad.

    Critical Comments on the Muslim �Isa (Jesus)

    �Isa not an historical figure

    The Qur�an�s �Isa is not an historical figure. His identity and role as a prophet of Islam is based solely on supposed revelations to Muhammad over half a millennium after the Jesus of history lived and died.

    Jesus� name was never �Isa

    Jesus� mother tongue was Aramaic. In his own lifetime he was called Yeshua in Aramaic, and Jesu in Greek. This is like calling the same person John when speaking English and Jean when speaking French: Jesu, pronounced “Yesoo”, is the Greek form of Aramaic Yeshua. (The final -s in Jesu-s is a Greek grammatical ending.) Yeshua is itself a form of Hebrew Yehoshua�, which means �the Lord is salvation�. However Yehoshua� is normally given in English as Joshua. So Joshua and Jesus are variants of the same name.

    It is interesting that Jesus’ name Yehoshua� contains within it the proper Hebrew name for God, the first syllable Yeh- being short for YHWH �the LORD�.

    Yeshua of Nazareth was never called �Isa, the name the Qur�an gives to him. Arab-speaking Christians refer to Jesus as Yasou� (from Yeshua) not �Isa.

    Jesus did not receive a �book�

    According to the Qur�an, the �book� revealed to �Isa was the Injil. The word Injil is a corrupted form of the Greek euanggelion �good news� or gospel. What was this euanggelion? This was just how Jesus referred to his message: as good news. The expression euanggelion did not refer to a fixed revealed text, and there is absolutely no evidence that Jesus received a �book� of revelation from God.

    The �gospels� of the Bible are biographies

    The term euanggelion later came to be used as a title for the four biographies of Jesus written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, the �gospels�. This was a secondary development of meaning. Apparently this is where Muhammad got his mistaken idea of the Injil being a �book�.

    Most so-called prophets of Islam received no book

    Virtually all of the so-called �prophets� of Islam, whose names are taken from the Hebrew scriptures, received no �book� or law code. For example, the Psalms are not a book revealing Islam, as the Qur�an claims, but a collection of songs of worship, only some of which are David�s. There is not a shred of evidence in the Biblical history of David that he received a book of laws for the Israelites. They already had the Torah of Moses to follow. So David was not a prophet in the Qur�an�s sense of this word. Likewise most of the prophets claimed by Islam were neither lawgivers nor rulers.

    Biblical prophecy and Islamic prophecy are not the same thing

    The Biblical understanding of prophecy is quite different from Muhammad�s. A Biblical prophecy is not regarded as a passage from a heavenly eternally pre-existent text like the Qur�an, but a message from God for a specific time and place. A biblical prophet is someone to whom God reveals hidden things, and who then acts as God�s verbal agent. When a Samaritan woman called Jesus a prophet (John 4:19) it was because he had spoken about things in her life that he could only have known supernaturally. Christianity teaches that Jesus was a prophet, but he brought no �book�: he himself was the living �Word of God�, a title used of �Isa in the Qur�an.

    By no means all prophecies referred to in the Bible became part of the Biblical text. The Bible consists of a wide variety of materials originally written for many different purposes, including letters, songs, love poetry, historical narratives, legal texts, proverbial wisdom as well as prophetic passages. These are regarded as inspired by God, but not dictated from a timeless heavenly book.

    As prophetic history, the Qur�an contains many errors and anachronisms

    The claim that Jesus was not executed by crucifixion is without any historical support. One of the things that all the early sources agree on is Jesus� crucifixion.

    Mariam the mother of �Isa is called a sister of Aaron, and also the daughter of Aaron�s father �Imran (Hebr. Amram). Clearly Muhammad has confused Mary (Hebr. Miriam) with Miriam of the Exodus. The two lived more than a thousand years apart!

    In the Bible Haman is the minister of Ahasuerus in Media and Persia (The Book of Esther 3:1-2). Yet the Qur�an places him over a thousand years earlier, as a minister of Pharoah in Egypt.

    The claim that Christians believe in three Gods � Father, son Jesus and mother Mary � is mistaken. The Qur�an is also mistaken to claim that Jews say Ezra was a son of God. (At-Taubah 9:30) The charge of polytheism against Christianity and Judaism is ill-informed and false. (Deuteronomy 6:4, James 2:19a)

    The story of the �two horned one� (Al-Kahf 18:82 cf also Daniel 8:3, 20-21)

    is derived from the Romance of Alexander. Certainly Alexander the Great was no Muslim.

    The problem with the name �Isa has already been discussed. Other Biblical names are also misunderstood in the Qur�an, and their meanings lost. For example Elisha, which means �God is salvation�, is given in the Qur�an as al-Yash�a, turning El �God� into al- �the�. (Islamic tradition did the same to Alexander the Great, calling him al-Iskandar �the Iskander�). Abraham �Father of many� (cf Genesis 17:5) might have been better represented as something like Aburahim �father of mercy� instead of Ibrahim, which has no meaning in Arabic at all.

    The Qur�an has a Samaritan making the golden calf, which was worshipped by the Israelites in the wilderness (Ta Ha 20:85) during the Exodus. In fact it was Aaron (Exodus 34:1-6). The Samaritans did not exist until several centuries later. They were descendants of the northern Israelites centuries after the Exodus.

    Many Qur�anic stories can be traced to Jewish and Christian folktales and other apocryphal literature. For example a story of Abraham destroying idols (As-Saffat 37) is found in a Jewish folktale, the Midrash Rabbah. The Qur�anic story of Zachariah, father of John the Baptist, is based upon a second-century Christian fable. The story of Jesus being born under a palm tree is also based on a late fable, as is the story of Jesus making clay birds come alive. Everything the Qur�an says about the life of Jesus which is not found in the Bible can be traced to fables composed more than a hundred years after Jesus� death.

    Jesus� titles of Messiah and Word of God, which the Qur�an uses, find no explanation in the Qur�an. Yet in the Bible, from which they are taken, these titles are well integrated in a whole theological system.

    The Qur�an mentions the Holy Spirit in connection with Jesus, using phrases which come from the gospels. Ibn Ishaq (Life of Muhammad) reports Muhammad as saying that this �Spirit� was the angel Gabriel (cf also An-Nahl 16:102, Al-Baqarah 2:97). However the Biblical phrase �Spirit of God� (Ruach Elohim)

    or �Holy Spirit� can only be understood in light of the Hebrew scriptures. It certainly does not refer to an angel.

    Jesus� alleged foretelling of Muhammad�s coming (As-Saff 61:6) appears to be based on a garbled reading of John 14:26, a passage which in fact refers to the Spirit.

    The Hebrew scriptures were Jesus� Bible. He affirmed their authority and reliability and preached from them. From these same scriptures he knew God as Adonai Elohim, the Lord God of Israel. He did not call God Allah, which appears to have been the name or title of a pagan Arabian deity worshipped in Mecca before Muhammad. Muhammad’s pagan father, who died before Muhammad was born, already bore the name �Abd Allah �slave of Allah�, and his uncle was called Obeid Allah.

    We read that An-Najm 53:19-23 seeks to refute the pagan Arab belief that Allah had daughters named al-Uzza, al-Ilat and Manat. (See also An-Nahl 16:57 and Al-An�am 6:100).

    The Biblical narratives are rich with historical details, many confirmed by archaeology. They cover more than a thousand years, and reveal a long process of technological and cultural development. In contrast the Qur�an�s sacred history is devoid of archaeological support. Its fragmentary and disjointed stories offer no authentic reflection of historical cultures. No place name from ancient Israel is mentioned, not even Jerusalem. Many of the supposed historical events reported in the Qur�an have no independent verification. For example we are told that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba in Mecca (Al-Baqarah 2:127), but this is totally without support. The Biblical account, more than a thousand years older, does not place Abraham anywhere near Arabia.

    The Qur�an is not a credible source for Biblical history

    The Qur�an, written in the 7th century AD, cannot be regarded as having any authority whatsoever to inform us about Jesus of Nazareth. It offers no evidence for its claims about biblical history. Its numerous historical errors reflect a garbled understanding of the Bible.

    Islam appropriates the history of Judaism and Christianity to itself

    When Muhammad linked the name of Allah to the religious histories of Judaism and Christianity, this was a way to claim them for Islam. In the light of later events, the claim that Islam was the original religion, and that all preceding prophets were Muslims, can be regarded as an attempt to appropriate the histories of other religions for Islam. The effect is to rob Christianity and Judaism of their own histories.

    Consider that many Biblical sites, such as the tombs of the Hebrew Patriarchs and the Temple Mount, are claimed by Islam as Muslim sites, not Jewish or Christian ones. After all, the Qur�an tells us that Abraham �was a Muslim�. Under Islamic rule all Jews and Christians were banned from such sites.

    The place of the Jewish scriptures in Christianity is completely different from the place of the Bible in Islam

    There is a fundamental difference between Christian attitudes to the Jewish scriptures and Islamic attitudes to the Bible. Christians accept the Hebrew scriptures. They were the scriptures of Jesus and the apostles. They were the scriptures of the early church. The whole of Christian belief and practice rests upon them. Core Christian concepts such as �Messiah� (Greek �Christos�), �Spirit of God�, �Kingdom of God� and �salvation� are deeply rooted in the Hebrew Biblical traditions.

    We note also that Christian seminaries devote considerable effort to studying the Hebrew scriptures. This is an integral part of training for Christian ministry. The Hebrew scriptures are read (in translation) every Sunday in many churches all around the world.

    In contrast Islam�s treatment of the Bible is one of complete disregard. Although it purports to �verify� all earlier prophetic revelation, the Qur�an is oblivious to the real contents of the Bible. The claim that Christians and Jews deliberately corrupted their scriptures is made without evidence, and this only serves to cover up the Qur�an�s historical inadequacies. Muslim scholars rarely have an informed understanding of the Bible or of biblical theology and so remain ignorant of these realities.

    Some contemporary Muslim voices on Jesus

    Yasser Arafat, addressing a press conference at the United Nations in 1983 called Jesus “the first Palestinian fedayeen who carried his sword” (i.e. he was a freedom fighter for Islam).

    Sheikh Ibrahim Madhi, employee of the Palestinian Authority, broadcast live in April 2002 on Palestinian Authority television: “The Jews await the false Jewish messiah, while we await, with Allah’s help… Jesus, peace be upon him. Jesus’s pure hands will murder the false Jewish messiah. Where? In the city of Lod, in Palestine.”

    Author Shamim A. Siddiqi of Flushing, New York put the classical position of Islam towards Christianity clearly in a recent letter to Daniel Pipes, New York Post columnist:

    “Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad were all prophets of Islam. Islam is the common heritage of the Judeo-Christian-Muslim community of America, and establishing the Kingdom of God is the joint responsibility of all three Abrahamic faiths. Islam was the din (faith, way of life) of both Jews and Christians, who later lost it through human innovations. Now the Muslims want to remind their Jewish and Christian brothers and sisters of their original din [religion]. These are the facts of history.”

    This historical negationism � appearing to affirm Christianity and Judaism whilst in fact rejecting and supplanting them � is a lynchpin of Muslim apologetics. What is being affirmed is in fact neither Christianity nor Judaism, but Jesus as a prophet of Islam, Moses as a Muslim etc. This is intended to lead to �reversion� of Christians and Jews to Islam, which is what Siddiqi refers to when he speaks of �the joint responsibility� of Jews and Christians to establish �the Kingdom of God�. By this he means that American Christians and Jews should work to establish shari�ah law and the rule of Islam in the United States.


    �Isa (Jesus) of the Qur�an is a product of fable, imagination and ignorance. When Muslims venerate this �Isa, they have someone different in mind from the Yeshua or Jesus of the Bible and of history. The �Isa of the Qur�an is based on no recognized form of historical evidence, but on fables current in seventh century Arabia.

    For most faithful Muslims �Isa is the only Jesus they know. But if one accepts this Muslim �Jesus�, then one also accepts the Qur�an: one accepts Islam. Belief in this �Isa is won at the cost of the libel that Jews and Christians have corrupted their scriptures, a charge that is without historical support. Belief in this �Isa implies that much of Christian and Jewish history is in fact Islamic history.

    The Jesus of the gospels is the base upon which Christianity developed. By Islamicizing him, and making of him a Muslim prophet who preached the Qur�an, Islam destroys Christianity and takes over all its history. It does the same to Judaism.

    In the end times as described by Muhammad, �Isa becomes a warrior who will return with his sword and lance. He will destroy the Christian religion and make Islam the only religion in all the world. Finally at the last judgement he will condemn Christians to hell for believing in the crucifixion and the incarnation.

    This final act of the Muslim �Isa reflects Islam�s apologetic strategy in relation to Christianity, which is to deny the Yeshua of history, and replace him with a facsimile of Muhammad, so that nothing remains but Islam.

    “The Muslim supersessionist current claims that the whole biblical history of Israel and Christianity is Islamic history, that all the Prophets, Kings of Israel and Judea, and Jesus were Muslims. That the People of the Book should dare to challenge this statement is intolerable arrogance for an Islamic theologian. Jews and Christians are thus deprived of their Holy Scriptures and of their salvific value.”

    � Bat Ye�or in Islam and Dhimmitude: where civilizations collide, p.370.

    APPENDIX: The historical evidence for Jesus (Yeshua)

    of Nazareth and his death by crucifixion

    Non-Christian sources for Jesus

    � Tacitus (AD 55-120), a renowned historical of ancient Rome, wrote in the latter half of the first century that �Christus … was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also.� (Annals 15: 44).

    � Suetonius writing around AD 120 tells of disturbances of the Jews at the �instigation of Chrestus�, during the time of the emperor Claudius. This could refer to Jesus, and appears to relate to the events of Acts 18:2, which took place in AD 49.

    � Thallus, a secular historian writing perhaps around AD 52 refers to the death of Jesus in a discussion of the darkness over the land after his death. The original is lost, but Thallus� arguments � explaining what happened as a solar eclipse � are referred to by Julius Africanus in the early 3rd century.

    � Mara Bar-Serapion, a Syrian writing after the destruction of the Temple in AD 70, mentions the earlier execution of Jesus, whom he calls a �King�.

    � The Babylonian Talmud refers to the crucifixion (calling it a hanging) of Jesus the Nazarene on the eve of the Passover. In the Talmud Jesus is also called the illegitimate son of Mary.

    � The Jewish historian Josephus describes Jesus� crucifixion under Pilate in his Antiquities, written about AD 93/94. Josephus also refers to James the brother of Jesus and his execution during the time of Ananus (or Annas) the high priest.

    Paul�s Epistles

    � Paul�s epistles were written in the interval 20-30 years after Jesus� death. They are valuable historical documents, not least because they contain credal confessions which undoubtedly date to the first few decades of the Christian community.

    Paul became a believer in Jesus within a few years of Jesus� crucifixion. He writes in his first letter to the Corinthians �For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he was seen by Cephas (Peter), then by the twelve.� This makes clear that belief in the death of Jesus was there from the beginning of Christianity.

    The four gospels

    � The four gospels were written down in the period 20-60 years after Jesus� death, within living memory of the events they describe.

    The events which the gospels describe for the most part took place in the full light of public scrutiny. Jesus� teaching was followed by large crowds. There were very many witnesses to the events of his life. His death was a public execution.

    Manuscript evidence for the Bible and its transmission

    The manuscript evidence for the Greek scriptures is overwhelming, far greater than for all other ancient texts. Over 20,000 manuscripts attest to them. Whilst there are copying errors, as might be expected from the hand of copyists, these are almost all comparatively minor and the basic integrity of the copying process is richly supported.

    Futhermore, when Western Christians studies the Hebrew scriptures during the Renaissance, they found them to agree remarkably closely with their Greek and Latin translations which had been copied again and again over a thousand years. There were copying errors, and some other minor changes, but no significant fabrications of the stupendous scale which would be required to concoct the story of Jesus� death.

    Likewise when the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered they included Hebrew Biblical scrolls dating from before the time of Jesus. These too agreed very closely with the oldest Hebrew Masoretic manuscripts of more than a thousand years later. Again, no fabrications, but evidence of remarkably faithful copying.

    Conclusion: Jesus of Nazareth is a figure of history

    Clearly there are events recorded in connection with Jesus� life that many non-Christians will not accept, such as the miracles, the virgin birth, and the resurrection. However what is beyond dispute is that Yeshua (�Jesus�) of Nazareth was a figure of history, who lived, attracted a following in his life time amongst his fellow Jews and was executed by crucifixion by the Roman authorities, after which his followers spread rapidly. Both secular and Christian sources of the period agree on this.

    The primary sources for the history of Jesus� public life are the gospels. These were written down relatively soon after his death � within living memory � and we have every indication that these sources were accepted as reliable in the early Christian community, during a period when first and second hand witnesses to Jesus� life were still available.

    We conclude that any statements about �Isa (Jesus) in the Qur�an, made six centuries after Jesus� death, must be judged against the historical evidence from these first century sources, and not vice versa.

    Some useful discussions of these issues are found at: http://www.debate.org.uk/topics/theo/islam_christ.html http://www.debate.org.uk/topics/theo/qur-jes.htm http://www.answering-islam.org/Intro/replacing.html

    Further reading: The Jesus I never knew, by Philip Yancey.

    ——————————————————————————– The author of these notes is an Anglican Minister at St Hilary�s Anglican Church Kew. He is also a senior associate of the Department of Linguistics and Applied Linguistics at the University of Melbourne, with the honorary title of Associate Professor, and was formerly head of the Department of Linguistics and Language Studies. He has written several books on the language and culture of the Acehnese, an Islamic people of Indonesia, and was elected to the Australian Academy of Humanities in 1992 for this research work. He served as a member of the Council of the Academy for a term during the 1990�s.


  36. Isa his real name is Yeshua the messiah(the saviour or Salvation) son of the virgin Marry in Surah III there is only one virgin marry meaning she
    gave birth to a son without being touched by a man Surah IX He Isa
    Yeshua the messiah has no earthly Father He has a Heavenly Father which men called the True God for there is only one God follow Isa is
    Yeshua the messiah until the day of resurrection in your Qur’an not only
    for Israel{Jacob) but for the whole World therefore Mohammed had it
    written in the Qur’an for a reason Isa Yeshua the messiah was taken up in Heaven He has no grave the only prophet without a grave only Him Yeshua the messiah could lead men to God, follow Him He want to help
    you too to see His glory in Heaven where he went.Salvation Isaiah12:1,2

  37. We mongolians call Jesus “Yesus”. Russians call him “Yisus”. Muslims call him “Isa”. Chinese people call him “Yesu”. English speakers call him “Jesus”. Calling his name in different ways is just language issue. It’s not a big problem. If you say my name, most of you cannot pronounce it correctly. Because some languages do not have the sound to say it correctly. Allah (God) gave us different languages. I think he does not look at pronouncation, he looks at our heart.

  38. Islam and Jesus, Son of Mary

    May 01, 2014

    Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Syracuse, New York, will soon be the Mosque of Jesus, Son of Mary.

    William Kilpatrick

    The name “Jesus son of Mary” written in Islamic calligraphy followed by “Peace be upon him” (Wikipedia Commons)
    Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Syracuse, New York, was sold in December to a Muslim group and will be turned into a mosque. The Muslim organization requested that six stone crosses be removed from the top of the century-old historic church, and the Syracuse Landmark Preservation Board has complied. However, as Syracuse.com explains in an April 6, 2014 article, “Plans to turn a church into a mosque bring pain and hope to changing neighborhood,” everything evens out because the mosque will be named the Mosque of Jesus, Son of Mary “to build a bridge between the old and the new.”

    So that’s all right then. Or is it? The news story is written to the theme that Islam and Catholicism share much in common—two sides of the same coin, so to speak. A diocesan spokeswoman is quoted as saying that “the building is once again being used to meet the needs of a growing population on the North Side, just as Holy Trinity did as it served the Catholic faithful.” In this telling, immigrant Muslims are just like immigrant Catholics of a hundred years ago. After all, both believe in Jesus, the son of Mary. “The Muslims could not keep the crosses on the church,” the Syracuse.com report concludes, “But they chose the mosque’s name to build a bridge between the old and the new: The Mosque of Jesus, Son of Mary.”

    Why do the crosses have to come down? The reason, as explained by one of the Muslim organizers, is that “crosses are not an appropriate representation of the religion of Islam.” Why is that? Because the Koran maintains that Jesus was never crucified and therefore never rose from the dead (4:157).

    In short, there are reasons to wonder if the Jesus, son of Mary that Muslims revere is the same Jesus that Christians revere. For instance, the Syracuse.com story reports that some of the Holy Trinity parishioners are worried that the massive stained glass windows which depict scenes from the life of Christ might be removed next. And well they might worry. Many of the scenes from the life of Christ do not pass the “appropriate representation of Islam” test. Naturally, the crucifixion scene would have to go, along with any representations of Christ’s resurrection, but so also would any depiction of Christ’s baptism or the Transfiguration. Both of these events identify Jesus not just as the son of Mary but as the Son of God, and from the Islamic point of view that is a blasphemous thought. On top of that, Islam prohibits the artistic representation of prophets. Have you ever seen a portrait of Muhammad? Probably not. And if you have any ideas about sketching one of your own, you’d be well-advised to keep it in your private collection. All things considered, the future of Holy Trinity’s rose-colored windows does not look too rosy.

    The same Jesus? In places where religiously observant Muslims are in the majority and especially in places where they hold political power, there is much more emphasis on the differences between the two faiths than on the similarities. Christians are looked upon as inferiors, and they are well-advised to keep crosses, icons, and statues out of sight. When they are in power, observant Muslims seem less interested in building bridges than in desecrating churches and burning them down.

    In the West, it’s a different story. When Muslims are first establishing themselves in a community, they tend to emphasize the commonalities between the two religions, and thus we get mosques named “Jesus, Son of Mary” and billboards that proclaim “Muslims Love Jesus Too.” Indeed, the supposedly shared love for Jesus is a primary recruitment tool for bringing Christians to Islam. A few years ago, Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, wrote an essay titled “Muslims and Christians: More in common than you think,” which is reprinted in many publications around Christmastime. Hooper writes: “It is well-known that Christians follow the teachings of Jesus. What is less well understood is that Muslims also love and revere Jesus as one of God’s greatest messengers to mankind” (Washington Post, 12/17/10).

    Muslims love Jesus too? If so, why do Muslims [official disclaimer: not all of them, of course] display so much contempt for Christians when they gain power over them? Why are they so quick to charge Christians with blasphemy? To desecrate their churches and religious symbols? Could it be that the Jesus they believe in is not the same Jesus Christians worship?

    While the Koranic portrait of Jesus borrows some elements from Christianity—the virgin birth, a handful of miracles—the differences are more striking than the similarities. The Jesus of the Koran is not a Jew or a Christian, he is a Muslim. He is not the Son of God, and to say that he is is the greatest of all blasphemies. He was not crucified. He did not rise from the dead. He is not the savior of mankind. And, although Ibrahim Hooper says that Jesus is “one of God’s greatest messengers,” his message differs markedly from that brought by Jesus of Nazareth. Other than the message that people should serve God, there is not much in common. The Muslim Jesus announces that he is a prophet sent by God; that he is not God and never claimed to be; and that he brings “news of an apostle that will come after me whose name is Ahmed [Muhammad]” (61:6). So, on the one hand you have the message, “I am the way and the truth and the life,” and on the other hand you have the message, “I am a messenger.” That’s no small difference.

    Those who are looking for more from the Jesus of the Koran—more wisdom, more development of doctrine—will be disappointed. The Muslim Jesus has remarkably little to say about anything. There is nothing like the Sermon on the Mount in the Koran. In fact, that one sermon far exceeds in length the sum total of everything said by the Jesus of the Koran.

    He also has remarkably little to do. When Christians hear that Jesus is in the Koran, they tend to assume that the Koran must contain some account of his life. But other than a strange and truncated account of his birth, there is nothing in the Koran that could remotely be called a life of Jesus. You will find considerably more scenes from the life of Jesus in the stained glass windows of Holy Trinity Church than you will in the Koran.

    The Jesus of the Koran is nothing more than a disembodied voice. There is no information about where he lived or when he carried out his ministry or who his disciples were. In short, there is no attempt to portray him as recognizable human being. Judging by the cursory attention given to Jesus in the Koran, Muhammad seems to have had little interest in him as a person.

    Nevertheless, Muhammad couldn’t afford to leave Jesus out of the picture. Why? Because if Christ is who Christians say he is, then there is no need for another prophet and another revelation. In other words, the claims made by Jesus of Nazareth, if true, would have put a major crimp in Muhammad’s prophetic career. Muhammad’s solution to this problem was to include Jesus in the Koran and recast him as a messenger, rather than as the Messiah, understood as the Son of God.

    The reason Jesus is so frequently referred to as “son of Mary” in the Koran is to reinforce the point that he is not the Son of God. Likewise, whenever Jesus appears in the Koran or whenever he is mentioned by Allah, it is almost always for the purpose of denying his divinity. Take Chapter 5, verses 113 to 117. It is one of the few places in the Koran where the narrative about Jesus rises (well, almost) to the level of a scene:

    “Jesus son of Mary,” said the disciples, “Can your Lord send down to us from heaven a table spread with food?”…“Lord,” said Jesus son of Mary, “send down to us from heaven a table spread with food…” (5: 113-114)

    The interesting thing is what happens next. Allah agrees to send the table, but first he interrogates Jesus: “Jesus son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind: ‘Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?’” Jesus, the faithful Muslim, replies, “I could never have claimed what I have no right to. If I had ever said so, You would surely have known it” (5:117).

    So, a demonstration of Jesus’ power to produce a tableful of food is used as an occasion to reject the central tenet of Christianity. As for the table of food, we are left guessing. Does Allah actually send down the meal? There is no further mention of it. Muhammad has made his point, and having made it, moves on to the next lesson.

    Notice that the phrase “Jesus son of Mary” is used three times in the table scene. Was this because Muhammad had a deep Christian-like love of Jesus and his mother? Or was there another motive? Given that almost every page of the Koran contains reminders of Muhammad’s prophetic role, it seems highly likely that the Jesus-son-of-Mary motif was simply a device for enhancing his own importance by reducing the status of Christ.

    The irony is that this self-serving stratagem has become the main plank for keeping Muslim-Christian dialogue afloat. One would think that Christians would be sore about Muhammad’s appropriation of Jesus and Mary for his own purposes—that is, to deny the Sonship of Jesus. Instead, this is sometimes put in positive terms that seem to overlook, for whatever reason, the problem at hand. For example, the Vatican II document Nostra Aetate says, “The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems,” and two of the five reasons given for the esteem is that Muslims “revere” Jesus and “honor Mary.”

    But a close reading of the Koran suggests that its inclusion of Jesus and Mary may not be the sign of hope that many Christians take it to be. John the Baptist said of Jesus, “He must increase, but I must decrease” (Jn 3:30). Muhammad preferred it the other way around. For him to increase, it was necessary that Jesus decrease. Thus, what we find in the Koran is a diminished portrait of Jesus, who is not completely repudiated, but used to bolster Islamic claims.

    Up in Syracuse, some Catholics have apparently taken the transformation of Holy Trinity Church into Jesus, Son of Mary Mosque to be a sign of continuity between Christianity and Islam. They might be less sanguine on that score if they knew the rest of the story.

    About the Author
    William Kilpatrick

    William Kilpatrick taught for many years at Boston College. He is the author of several books about cultural and religious issues, including Psychological Seduction, Why Johnny Can’t Tell Right from Wrong and, most recently, Christianity, Islam, and Atheism: The Struggle for the Soul of the West. Professor Kilpatrick’s articles on cultural and educational topics have appeared in First Things, Policy Review, American Enterprise, American Educator, The Los Angeles Times, and various scholarly journals. His articles on Islam have appeared in Aleteia, National Catholic Register, Investor’s Business Daily, FrontPage Magazine, and other publications. Professor Kilpatrick’s work is supported in part by the Shillman Foundation.

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