Netherlands: "They want to simply have us dead."

Netherlands: Christian youth fear Muslims


“Islam is a peaceful religion. Who agrees with that?” barely anybody does. In a meeting this weekend in Barneveld many Reformed Christian youth were afraid of “all those Muslims” who will “murder if they get power.”

The fear of the unknown violent Muslim only increased Saturday evening among almost 700 Reformed youth. Breathlessly they listened to a heated debate between Islam critical Arabist Hans Jansen, Ayhan Tonca, CDA (Christian Democratic Appeal) member and former chairman of the Contact Organ Muslims and Government and SGP (Reformed Political Party) head Bas Van de Vlies.

A woman with darker, curled hair said to the crowd that she still thinks of the Biblical text that says foreigners will waste the land. “Really we are too late. Mosques sprout out from the ground, against our culture.”

Van der Vlies nods in agreement and says that when he said Wilders’ movie was stimulating and spurred to discussion, the entire country attacked him, but there were also people who agree. “You don’t want to know how many people in The Hague, politically correct as they are, just watch the 750,000 moderate Muslims.”

Among the calls to vigilance, because Muslims will in the end never respect Christians, and maintaining why the Bible is so much better than the Koran, there’s one different note. A boy in a dark-blue shirt says it makes him think of discussion sites where opinions are hurled about without good knowledge, and that without dialog we would never get anywhere.

In reaction Jansen said that he doesn’t think talking is a solution. “It’s of the greatest importance that we stay vigilant, not listen to the nagging that Islam is a peaceful religion. That is not true.”

Tonca: “I’m here for forty years now and know many Muslims who want their children to grow up in harmony. We Must get to know each other better.” About thirty hands are raised to his question who is acquainted with Muslims. He says that as believers we must be open and go out from that we believe in one god who shows mercy. If Muslims will come to power, we won’t really all need to put on masks and cut off everybody’s head.

Tonca’s words don’t touch everybody. In the recess a nurse tells that her Muslim colleague, dead-serious, said he’ll murder her if Muslims get to power. “They want to simply have us dead.”


‘out of the way, you infidel dogs…’ 

 ‘Unbelievers are dogs’- children told at mosque visit

“The school wishes to play this down. That is precisely the problem”, as one mother commented. 

THE HAGUE, 09/04/08 – A primary school in Amsterdam wished to provide its pupils with an understanding for other cultures. But during a visit to a mosque, the children were told they were dogs.

With a view to developing understanding and respect for other cultures among children, primary school De Horizon regularly organises outings to various religious organisations. The chairman of the El Mouchidine mosque told the children from group 7 (aged 10) and their chaperones however that non-Muslims are dogs.

In a letter to the children’s parents, the school expresses its regret at the incident: “We are shocked that during the guided tour, the mosque’s chairman told the children and chaperoning parents that non believers were dogs. We consider this statement as unacceptable since we allow our children to partake in this project to develop respect for freedom of religious choice”.

In the meantime, the school’s management has addressed the mosque on the undesirable behaviour of the chairman. Both parties will say nothing further on the matter. “We will resolve the matter amongst ourselves and I have no inclination whatsoever to discuss the matter with the media”, as newspaper De Telegraaf quoted the school’s spokesperson Mariet ten Berge. “We have been to the mosque before and it always went well”.

Angry parents had sent the letter on to De Telegraaf but were reportedly rapped on the knuckles by the school’s management. “The school wishes to play this down. That is precisely the problem”, as one mother commented.

2 thoughts on “Netherlands: "They want to simply have us dead."”

  1. “…we believe in one god who shows mercy…”

    Uh, that’s OUR belief, the Y-W-H or Yahweh or Jehovah of Judeo-Christian Western Civilization.

    The Islamic representation of al-illah (god), on the other hand, is described in the Quran as heaping horrific punishments on unbelievers, polytheists, apostates and “insufficient” Muslims, and after the blood curdling descriptions, the Quran follows up with “and Allah is oft-compassionate” or “Allah is most merciful”. Compassion? Mercy? Mmm, I admit I haven’t finished reading the book yet, but to date what I’ve seen of Allah I’d describe as “implacable demon”. I don’t see a God who loves his children, I see a god who demands fear and submission.

    As far as dialogue with Islam: believe the ACTIONS. Anybody can say pretty words about harmony and peace and brotherhood. Ignore what is being SAID and focus on what is being DONE.

  2. I think the kids are smarter than the adults. They know who wants them dead. Maybe it is because the kids are still learning and political correctness is not natural to them yet.

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