Turkish ‘Defender of Islam’ Threatens Brussels Journal
by sheikyermami on May 11, 2008
* It appears the ‘defender’ found it objectionable that BJ printed these pictures:
* Tell me if it isn’t so: does this guy resemble Moe?
These two photographs were taken in the Church of Our Lady in Dendermonde, Flanders (Belgium). They show the late 17th century pulpit, sculpted in wood by Mattheus van Beveren. The person subdued by the angels and having a Koran in his hands is generally thought to be Mohammed. The sculpture represents the triumph of christianity over islam.
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Here’s the text of the e-mail to the BJ:
Your news is very race.If you are continue this your website is must be close. We check your server, database,IP and find this pictures, news.You must be careful. Our father of Turk is Ataturk. We are democratic, laic and muslum. We are not Arabic people.We live for peace. We like “Isa” and “Meryem” They are God childs. We give you 7 days. If you are dont change any news or insult. Turkish attack will be started!
* Quote of the day:
”Islam, this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives.” – Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
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This is a satirical website. None of what you read here has anything to do with Islam, because Islam is a Religion of Peace. Everybody knows that good Muslims never do the things they do, (because Allah does it for them, Quran 8:12) and we know that only our misperceptions, ignorance and stereotyping of Islam makes Muslims chop off heads, kill and rape women and children, bomb subways, buses, nightclubs and fly jets into buildings. If it wasn't for the media and da Jooozzz, we wouldn't even know its happening.
We welcome open, honest, thoughtful, and vigorous discussion in the comments threads, so do yourself a favour and don't accuse us of being 'haters' because we are loving, tolerant people. Don't curse us, don't threaten us with death or hellfire, and don't accuse us of being "just like the terrorists" because we don't do to Muslims what they do to us or to themselves. Yes, we know that only idiots oppose Islam and sensible people submit, but you should know that we are ignorant bigots, hypocrites and Islamophobes, and we prefer to remain that way...
But since you are forcing yourselves (and your abhorrent belief-system on us) we will defend ourselves, because we must. Avoid tu quoque and ad hominem attacks. Don't bother with circular reasoning either, we been there, done it. If you annoy us, you will be banned and your posts summarily deleted.
Try to add to the discussion, don't try to sell snake oil, don't try to cover us with Islamic shrouds of kitman and taqiyya, don't bother with da'awa, (we've heard it before) don't spam us with long pieces of cut & paste, write in English, try to tell the truth,
(we know that's hard for you because you are all pathological liars) but the truth will set you free, try it!
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trufers and conspiracy kooks: you get one chance, one time. Blow it out of your ass if you must; put your stupidity on display.
But you won't be back, trust me on that.
Take a deep breath before you post, try to make some sense, do not just vent, do not make a fool of yourself and if you prove us wrong you can earn 10 Islamic dollars for your piggy bank. Deal?
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* Turkish attack will be started!
What! They aren’t running to the UN, EU or Belgian govt whinging about “hurt feelings” and
“insensitivity”?
I’m tempted to say “Bring it on!”, but when it happens, Mo’s remaining followers may not
know what hit them.
Cool, that Ataturk quotes a keeper! I had no idea he held islam in such high regard.
Guys, please stay angry and stay determined!!!
Savitch, you’re right–Ataturk’s quote was great!!!
What’s the source for the Ataturk’s quote?
Urban:
The quote you asked for can be found here:
Through the abusive interpretation of ignorant and filthy priests … Islam, this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives.
Statement recorded in Mustapha Kemal : La mort d’un Empire (1954) by Jacques Benoist-Méchin, as quoted in Jihad in the West : Muslim Conquests from the 7th to the 21st Centuries (1998) by Paul Fregosi, p. 407
here’s more on Ataturk:
To the women: Win for us the battle of education and you will do yet more for your country than we have been able to do. It is to you that I appeal.
The place of women in Mustafa Kemal’s cultural reforms was best expressed in the civic book which was prepared under his supervision.[71] Mustafa Kemal said that
There is no logical explanation for the political disenfranchisement of women. Any hesitation and negative mentality on this subject is nothing more than a fading social phenomenon of the past. …Women must have the right to vote and to be elected; because democracy dictates that, because there are interests that women must defend, and because there are social duties that women must perform.”[72]
To the men: If henceforward the women do not share in the social life of the nation, we shall never attain to our full development. We shall remain irremediably backward, incapable of treating on equal terms with the civilizations of the West.[70]
—Mustafa Kemal
In Mustafa Kemal’s world there was no dualism. He enforced his ideas to full extent. According to Mustafa Kemal, a progressive nation also was progressive in understanding its belief system. Mustafa Kemal commissioned the translation of the Quran into Turkish and he had it read in front of the public in 1932.[80]
Bear in mind that until the Koran was translated in Turkish, nobody could actually understand anything about it, apart from what the clerics told them. Understanding the Koran and its doctrine of perpetual warfare must have been an eye-opener for Kemal and many like-minded Turks who understood that Islam was a dead-end street and reform had to happen. Now, unfortunately 70 years after Ataturk the religious nuts are fueled by petro-dollars from the Arabs and Islam is back with a vengeance.
There are more quotes if you’re interested:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Atatürk
thanks, Sheik.
Why would Ataturk spend so much energy translating a book supposedly produced/delivered to disseminate the “theology of an immoral Bedouin”? Why not just ban it or discourage it or leave it inaccessible as was the situation to begin with?
While throwing our such incendiary and suspect quotes around, you are expecting us to believe the word of a Frenchmen (French are not generally Turk-loving) despite the contradictory actions of the person (Ataturk) to whom the quote is liberally attributed.
What is next? Stalin was a democrat, Hitler really like Jews, etc.?
If you want to look stupid, then that is fine. Just don’t usurp the airs or an expert when you have not bothered to think first.
Basat,
whatever is quoted here can be verified and evidenced. In this context it is totally irrelevant that a Frenchmen may or may not be Turk-loving.
If Ataturk had the Koran translated he was obviously horrified about the madness behind it. That’s the reason why he replaced Islam with Kemalism. He simply wanted to bring Turkey out of the dark ages and mke it into a civilized nation. Now the Erdogan-Gul Klan wants to bring the dark ages back.
If you want credibility for whatever you claim, prove it. You do neither.
So who looks stupid now?