Beautiful Camden: "give us our madrassah or we will become terrorists"- Muslim leader sez

Update: Ikebal Patel, one of Australia’s perceived ‘moderate Muslims’, is very distressed over the resistance by the residents of Camden who don’t want a Muhammedan madrassah in their midst. Daniel Emerson from the politically correct Sydney Moonbat Herald is equally upset and hastens to assist him:

Extremism fear after Islamic school blocked

Kate McCulloch … “they take our welfare”.

Daniel Emerson

May 28, 2008 – 8:04AM

A senior figure within Australia’s Islamic community has warned that the blocking of a proposed Muslim school in Camden could result in Islamic children being taught extreme religious views in “backyards and garages”.

Australian Federation of Islamic Councils president Ikebal Patel said it was “very sad” that Camden Council last night rejected a proposal to build a school for 1200 students on planning grounds.

In announcing the decision the Mayor, Chris Patterson, stressed that the refusal of the application had nothing to do with the seething religious tensions that have underpinned much of the debate.

He later told AAP he encouraged the school’s developers to resubmit their proposal if they could find an alternative site within his south-western Sydney municipality.

But Mr Patel said he was saddened by the attitudes of Camden residents, some of whom declared the rejection of the school plan a victory for “decency”.

“It’s very, very distressing that that sort of phobia exists in the community,” Mr Patel said.

* Imagine that! Islamophobia in Camden! These ignorant redneck Aussies…!

“I think what the [Camden] council and the general population have to realise is that if Islamic schools are not encouraged and allowed to be established under the auspices of the State Government and their oversight, the same Muslim children will be given their religious education in backyards and garages by Imams and other religious teachers whose credentials no-one could vet.

“You may have some very extreme Imams or religious teachers getting through to the children.”

* Really? Then the question should be: what are we going to do about that? Monitor the mosques and the schools or do away with them altogether?

Mr Patel said he supported the proposed developers, the Quranic Society Dar Tahfez El-Quran, who have declared their intention to fight for the school.

* Of course. Patel wouldn’t be a proper soldier of Allah if he wasn’t prepared to take it to the limit…

Vice-president Issam Obeid told the Camden Advertiser: “We’re definitely going to appeal through the Land and Environment Court.”

Another member of the society, Ahmed Halal, told the paper it was disappointing that Camden residents had made it clear they did not want Muslims in the area.

“If you build a school, then you’re building education and you’re building something for society,” he said.

* Not for Australian society, you don’t. Australia did very well without Muhammedan ‘education’…don’t want any, don’t need any: Muslim be gone!

About 200 Camden residents cheered wildly as the council formally decided to reject the application in their area last night.

Dressed in a hat decorated with Australian flags and a long yellow dress, a resident, Kate McCulloch, emerged from the meeting hailing the decision and insisting that Muslims were incompatible with the local community.

The ones that come here oppress our society, they take our welfare and they don’t want to accept our way of life,” she said.

* Huh? somebody smells the coffee?

A council report recommended that the application be refused after more than 3000 submissions had been received from the public. The vast majority opposed the development.

* Not ‘the vast majority’ Daniel: the overwhelming majority. Only 100 voted in favor, 2900 against.

Cr Patterson pointed to a report from council officers showing the proposed development was flawed on environmental and planning grounds. These included inadequate public transport to the site, in Burragorang Road at Cawdor, and fears that it might be contaminated by hazardous materials. Cr Patterson insisted the ruling was “on planning grounds alone”.

– with Jonathan Dart

* Its not over till the fat lady sings…

* Bad News Update:

Thanx to Gramfan

Islamic schools deserve fair go: Pell

The Australian

* Just when you thought the resistance is gaining momentum, there comes another religious nutter trying to nip it in the butt:

CATHOLIC Cardinal George Pell has weighed in to the row over an Islamic school in western Sydney, saying he has no objection to Muslim schools.

Camden Council last night voted unanimously against a proposal to build an Islamic school for 1200 students, citing various issues including traffic problems.

The decision would taint Australia’s multicultural image, the Islamic Council of NSW warned today.

* Don’t worry about Australia’s image, Muhammad. You should concern yourself with Islamic terrorism, FGM, honor killings, suicide bombers and the global jihad.

“Fair Go:”

Speaking at a World Youth Day media conference, the Archbishop of Sydney said Muslims deserved a fair go.

* Suicidal? Why doesn’t the Archbishop of Sydney concern himself with the plight of Chritians under the Islamic yoke?

Cardinal Pell told media he always encouraged people to be open to the rights of people from all faiths.

“Everybody in Australia has the right to a fair go, so do the Muslims,” he said. “We certainly believe in religious schools.”

* So do the Muslims. But they teach their kids that you’re a filthy kuffar and a Dhimmi, that you are ‘the vilest of creatures’ and that you must be brought into the fold of Islam or subjected to servitude. Is that what you want, Mr Archbishop?

 

A Muslim youth worker told reporters the Camden Council decision, condemned as racist by one Islamic group, would not give a bad impression of Sydney to pilgrims visiting for World Youth Day.

* Tell me again: which ‘race’ is Islam?

Mazem Bakhour, a representative from the Lebanese Muslim Association, said the school issue should not cause a problem for the Catholic youth event.

 

“I guess, at the end of the day, to the Muslim community, World Youth Day is about unity between religions,” he said.

* Keep lying, Muslim brother, keep lying…

“That’s what we are going to focus on … mainly just trying to focus on seeing the similarities between faiths.”

* Unfortunately we have nothing in common.

Pope Benedict XVI will meet the Australian leaders of other faiths during World Youth Day.

Camden residents had been unfairly portrayed as “rednecks” over the rejection of the Islamic school, the NSW Opposition said.

 

Liberal leader Barry O’Farrell said he did not believe race was an issue in the decision.

* It certainly isn’t.

“Whenever these issues are determined, they should be determined and decided on the basis of facts, not emotion, on the basis of planning considerations, not irrelevant issues,” Mr O’Farrell told reporters today.

 

“I regret that, at times, media coverage of the issue focused more on issues irrelevant to the planning considerations.

 

“The point here is we’ve seen an attempt to portray Camden and that region as rednecks. I agree with the mayor, I think that’s an unfortunate perception.”

 

Islamic Council of NSW president Ali Roude said the rejection was not a surprise.

 

“We have seen a history of reaction from local residents against the establishment of places of worship and schools so it was not a surprise,” he told ABC Radio.

 

“It does not help the image of Australia because we take pride as Australians as a country that’s succeeded and (has) set an example to the whole world that we can live together.”

* For now. Until the Muslims gain the upper hand…

The schools’ backers – the Qu’uranic Society – have not ruled out making an appeal to the Land and Environment Court.

 

– AAP 

 

 

24 thoughts on “Beautiful Camden: "give us our madrassah or we will become terrorists"- Muslim leader sez”

  1. Very scary,

    I heard Ikebal Patel being interviewed on radio this morning, and he said that the residents should accept the inevitable, (assuming he meant that eventually there would be a koranic school).

    But we all know what “the inevitable” really means. Expect the ‘peaceful ones’ to explode here in Australia any time now……

  2. >>”We’re definitely going to appeal through the Land and Environment Court.

    THE PEOPLE DON’T WANT YOU THERE! Don’t they teach manners in Islam 101?

  3. The implication of who now owns the land is very worrying. Is it now part of Dar al Islam?

  4. It is time to start giving these jihadis a one way ticket to hell. No more mosques. No more jihadis. There is not enough room in this world for Islam. Islam must be destroyed NOW!!!!

  5. “result in Islamic children being taught extreme religious views in “backyards and garages”.”

    Wow… did this guy ever just “out” all those “average Muslim moms and dads” about what they really believe and want their children to follow.

    And here we thought the “Cat Meat” Mufti was far fringe and in fact his merely moderate to the Mohammedan.

  6. “the same Muslim children will be given their religious education in backyards and garages by Imams and other religious teachers whose credentials no-one could vet.”
    Who’s vetting them now? silly me, the same ones who are vetting the Wahabbi’s in Newcastle?

    It sounds like a threat to me.

  7. Official government policy on islam.

    “SORRY.EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF!!”

    When a government washes it’s hands on such a serious issue, I see nothing but future anarchy. Maybe thats what the socialists want.

  8. What should the community do now?
    The best defense is a good offense.

    They should demand that new laws be implemented that require approval of at least 90% of the community for any new school to be built.

  9. They should require that the school teach basic principles of the australian community: Free speech. Freedom to speak ones own conscience. The equality of man and woman under the law. The right to receive criticism of their religion…namely of mohammed and the murders and thievery he committed…

    Hence, it should be requested that mohammed should be tried post mortem as a criminal according to our Australian laws, and sentence be passed requiring no cult to be formed or supported that would spread his criminal message.

  10. * Cardinal Pell weighs in on the debate:

    [Lebanese Muslim Association] … “World Youth Day is about unity between religions”

    If so, it has nothing to do with Christianity, which rejects such things as the false prophet
    of islam, and the sonless “god” Allah, and considers their false gospels to be anathema.

  11. The arrogance of muslims never fails to astound me, though I should be used to it by now.

    Is there a law in Australia forbidding religion in public schools? If so, then there is no place for madrassahs in Australia – or any other Western country!

  12. Socialist Australian labour = Fabians!

    No if”s no but’s, kick them out now while you still can!
    A little push here, a little push there, before you know it a thousand mosques will shoot up like mushrooms.
    Towns and cities first will be colonised the centres of power, white flight will ensue leaving the ghetto’s to become islamic.
    Ignore their sweet pleas! when they remove their lambskin the wolf will show it’s blooded teeth.
    Too hard on them?
    You bet i am!
    Their history taught me one lesson and that is; Don’t give an Inch!

  13. There is a thread running through Fabianism, socialism, communism. In essence, there is no difference between them.

    So, let us now return to Bob Hawke’s address to the Fabian Society on 18/4/84. Hawke said:

    “Almost from the beginning, its (The Fabian Society’s) founders envisaged that the vehicle would be a Labor Party…The (Fabian) Society drew its strength from its vision of the future of Labor and the Labor Party…

    “Australian Fabianism and Australian Fabians have made a specific and significant contribution to the Australian Labor movement and the Australian Labor Party.

    “I gladly acknowledge the debt of my own Government to Fabianism”.

    Also in his speech, Hawke named several prominent Labor politicians as Fabians, and former Prime Minister, Gough Whitlam, as their own Fabius Maximus.

    We have seen above that the objectives of communism include the removal of the right to own private property and the destruction of the family unit and of religion.

    So too, does the Fabian Society call for the extinction of private property in land and the traditional liberties of Englishmen exchanged for a system of State socialism. (See the Fabian Freeway, p. 19).

    Again, Mr Hawke’s speech to the Fabians gives us further insights:

    “1947 was also a year when the challenge against bank nationalisation forced on us a realisation of the restrictions and restraints imposed by the Constitution, and in particular by Section 92. Consequently, this led to a rethinking of our approach. Because, unless the platform was just to stagnate into irrelevance, the search had to be made for alternative means of achieving our objectives.

    “In that search – and it was a search and a development of policy that went on for more then 20 years – Fabians were in the forefront…”.

    http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Misc/JOHN_BURGE_2.htm

  14. Savitch>>”I see nothing but future anarchy. Maybe thats what the socialists want.

    Of course it is–in the hope that democracy would collapse so that they can replace it with communism.

  15. Whats up with G. Pell. He knows whats up with islam. Now he suddenly goes all dhimmi???
    I know the catholic migrant service helps muslim refugees get settled into OZ, they are absolutely beyond hope.

  16. * Its not over till the fat lady sings…

    Looks like she’s on stage, in a burka, mike in hand …

    The thought police, diversity officers & dhimmi enforcers are riding to the “rescue”:

    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23775635-5013871,00.html
    THE Rudd Government has offered to run anti-racism projects in outer southwestern Sydney where locals stridently lobbied Camden Council to reject an application to build a 1200-student Islamic school.

  17. The doublespeak that seethes through the media and the people have to be brainwashed with! They truly want people to stop thinking!

    “It does not help the image of Australia because we take pride as Australians as a country that’s succeeded and (has) set an example to the whole world that we can live together.”
    Ali is quoted as saying…

    What a bunch of rubbish being turned on its head!

    The Australian public has to be proud for allowing them to segregate themselves by having a separate school system..(because they dont want to send their kids to school with Australians) and then that shows that we can live together!

    BS. It shows exactly this: that islamists dont want to live together..that they want to segregate themselves from the australian public…and the public understands this for what it is: using the media to spread lies and more lies…

    At this point someone from the community ought to take the reporter to task and shove the paper up where the sun dont shine…for allowing this statement to pass w/o asking who really has got the racist and apartheid agenda!

  18. You may have some very extreme Imams or religious teachers getting through to the children.”

    Tell the Aussie government who they are so they can be deported. Extreme imams need to be in Mecca where they can be amongst their peers.

  19. The doublespeak that seethes through the media and the people have to be brainwashed with! They truly want people to stop thinking!

    “It does not help the image of Australia because we take pride as Australians as a country that’s succeeded and (has) set an example to the whole world that we can live together.”
    Ali is quoted as saying…

    What a bunch of rubbish being turned on its head!

    The Australian public has to be proud for allowing them to segregate themselves by having a separate school system..(because they dont want to send their kids to school with Australians) and then that shows that we can live together!

    BS. It shows exactly this: that islamists dont want to live together..that they want to segregate themselves from the australian public…and the public understands this for what it is: using the media to spread lies and more lies…

    At this point someone from the community ought to take the reporter to task and shove the paper up where the sun dont shine…for allowing this statement to pass w/o asking who really has got the racist and apartheid agenda!

    And the Rudd government wants to run anti-racism projects…in Camden..to brainwash these poor residents even further. This is simply insulting!

    Why, if hw eants to run antiracism programs he should be running them in the segregated muslim communities that are sprouting themselves everywhere..

  20. At this point the community ought to point out that they too are against racism and therefore dont want anymore apartheid schools opening up in their area. Then they ought to begin to assess all the private schools in their areas and begin to push for closure of all of them.

    Religious education can be had during the weekends at church or at the mosque. It is not necessary to have an apartheid school system that will in the future isolate more and more people from each other.

    They should begin to push for implementation asap and begin protesting with huge signs that they are against racism and therefore are against private schools, and are against the muslims segregating themselves any further. They should ask Rudd to take his antiracism program and run it in every apartheid muslim community, and begin to run them in England and all over the world where muslims have immigrated and work very hard at segregating themselves.

  21. I’m fed up with mosque rats forever whining about racism. They’re the same race as we are – caucasians. We couldn’t care less about their race. The reason we want to get rid of them is their BEHAVIOUR. Who in his right mind would want to live next to a horde of overbreeding, ignorant, xenophobic neanderthals who have every intention of imposing their hateful belief sytem upon him?
    Good for you Camden – I wish we had people like you where I live!
    Stay the course; nihil desperandum!

  22. Steiner sez:

    The Australian public has to be proud for allowing them to segregate themselves by having a separate school system..(because they dont want to send their kids to school with Australians) and then that shows that we can live together!

    Very good point, Steiner! The reverse logic of the Islamofascists…

  23. There is no moderate Islam, so whether there is an official school or some backyard operation, the same Islam will be taught, based on the Qur’an and hadiths.

    Islam is totally incompatible with our egalitarian, pluralistic society.

    There should never be any Islamic schools here, because by their nature, they discriminate against other religions and are racist and misogynist. How can you allow an ideology that breaks Australian Law.

    The solution: refuse to recognise Islam as a religion. It is an ideology similar to Nazism.

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