‘Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims’
* No wonder the Anglican church is on the way out. With a fuckwit like him on the helm they look more like ‘das Narrenschiff’ or the Titanic…
The Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams has admitted that Christian doctrine is offensive to muslims
*Â Mail Online
Dr Rowan Williams also criticised Christianity’s history for its violence, its use of harsh punishments and its betrayal of its peaceful principles.
His comments came in a highly conciliatory letter to Islamic leaders calling for an alliance between the two faiths for ‘the common good’.
* Rumor has it that some Islamic clerics died laughing when they heard that…
* Â “Common Good” for Muslims means Â sharia, submission to Islam. Nothing more, nothing less…
But it risked fresh controversy for the Archbishop in the wake of his pronouncement earlier this year that a place should be found for Islamic sharia law in the British legal system.
Dr Williams is also facing immense pressures from inside his own Church of England and Anglican Communion.
A gathering of Anglican bishops from around the world, which begins today, is on the brink of a devastating split over whether homosexuality and gay clergy should win their approval.
The Archbishop’s letter is a reply to feelers to Christians put out by Islamic leaders from 43 countries last autumn.
In it, Dr Williams said violence is incompatible with the beliefs of either faith and that, once that principle is accepted, both can work together against poverty and prejudice and to help the environment.
He also said the Christian belief in the Trinity – that God is Father, Son and Holy Ghost at the same time – ‘is difficult, sometimes offensive, to Muslims’.
Trinitarian doctrine conflicts with the Islamic view that there is just one all-powerful God.
* NOT. There is only one God in Christianity and in Judaism. Muhammedanism could be called a Trinity because they worship Muhammad, his alter ego called ‘Al-Ilha’, and the Koran.
A PENSIONER ripped a veil from a Muslim woman in a South Tyneside supermarket.The 79-year-old approached the woman as she shopped in Asda, in Ocean Road, at around 11.45am yesterday.
She asked her to remove her veil and started to question her religion.Which race is Islam again?)
When the 45-year-old refused to take off her veil, the pensioner ripped it from her face.
The pensioner, from South Shields, was detained in the store and police were called.Â
She received a police caution for racial aggravated assault. (
Dr Williams added: ‘It is all the more important for the sake of open and careful dialogue that we try to clarify what we do and do not mean by it, and so I trust that what follows will be read in this spirit.’
He told Muslim leaders that faith has no connection with political power or force, and that Christians have in the past betrayed this idea.
‘Christianity has been promoted at the point of the sword and legally supported by extreme sanctions,’ Dr Williams said.
Islam, he continued, has been supported in the same way and ‘there is no religious tradition whose history is exempt from such temptation and such failure.’
The Archbishop appeared to rebuke his colleague, Bishop of Rochester Dr Michael Nazir-Ali, who criticised his sharia lecture and who maintains that Christianity is central to British law, politics and society.
‘Religious identity has often been confused with cultural or national integrity, with structures of social control, with class and regional identities, with empire: and it has been imposed in the interest of all these and other forms of power,’ he said.
The Archbishop said that faiths which reject the use of violence should learn to defend each other in their mutual interest.
‘If we are in the habit of defending each other, we ought to be able to learn to defend other groups and communities as well,’ he said.
‘We can together speak for those who have no voice or leverage in society – for the poorest, the most despised, the least powerful, for women and children, for migrants and minorities; and even to speak together for the great encompassing reality that has no voice of its own, our injured and abused material environment.’
The Archbishop did not mention sharia at all in his closely-argued 18-page letter. Dr Williams was heavily criticised by MPs and Downing Street after he suggested sharia law could have an established place in British life.
But his letter in reply to last year’s Islamic approach, A Common Word for the Common Good, chimes with his view expressed in February that people of faith should be able to work together against secularism despite their differences.
Lambeth Palace hinted that Christians as well as Muslims should listen to Dr Williams’ message.
Officials pointed to the Archbishop’s call for ‘religious plurality’ to turn to serving the common good and added: ‘This is true even where truth claims may seem irreconcilable’.
A number of conservative and evangelical Anglican bishops are poised to break away from the 400-year-old network of Anglican churches around the world because they believe homosexual behaviour is incompatible with Christian principles.
Among those expected to boycott the Lambeth Conference in Canterbury is Dr Nazir-Ali, whose seat in Rochester is justÂ 20 miles away.