Saudi King can't find "intellectual roots" of jihad terror in Islam's holy scriptures

* Smoke and mirrors, lies and deception:

False Reports of Jihadists “Quitting” or Abandoning Islamic Supremacism

By Jeffrey Imm P2

* Killing infidels and Jews for their houses, women and wealth doesn’t need intellectual roots. The Sowdi king   is right: there is no intellectual base to Islam…

*  This charade has to end. Soon. It should have ended right after 9/11. But we’re still playing along, pretending not to hear, not to see, not to understand and the Sowdis and in fact all ‘good Muslims’ are still blowing smoke our way while raking in windfall profits from exorbitant oil prices:

Saudi king says they’re tacking terror’s “intellectual roots”; Saudi textbooks still teach jihad against infidels

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, July 15, 2008, as quoted in “Dialogue will remove mistrust: King,” by P.K. Abdul Ghafour for Arab News, July 16, 2008 with thanks to JW

We have adopted a comprehensive anti-terror strategy that not only focuses on the security side but also includes preventing financing of terrorism and dealing with its intellectual roots as well as rehabilitating the followers of deviant ideologies after giving them counseling.

Yet these “intellectual roots” of jihad violence remain undealt with:

Center for Religious Freedom of Hudson Institute, “2007-2008 Academic Year Excerpts from Saudi Ministry of Education Textbooks for Islamic Studies: Arabic with English Translation“:

When God sent his Prophet Muhammad, He abrogated with his law all [other] laws and He commanded all people, including the people of the book, to believe him and to follow him. The people of the book should have been the first to believe him because they find him in their scriptures. Their prophets had informed them of Muhammad’s mission. But most of them denied and rejected him.The clash between this [Muslim] nation and the Jews and Christians has endured, and it will continue as long as God wills. In this hadith, Muhammad gives us an example of the battle between the Muslims and the Jews.

*   While Saudi king promotes interfaith dialogue, Saudi textbooks still teach hatred and intolerance of everything — and everyone — non-Islamic

Narrated by Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet said, “The hour [of judgment] will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. [It will not come] until the Jew hides behind rocks and trees. [It will not come] until the rocks or the trees say, ‘O Muslim! O servant of God! There is a Jew behind me. Come and kill him. Except for the gharqad, which is a tree of the Jews.’”

Al-Bukhari: 103/6, number 2926. Volume: Jihad; Chapter: Fighting the Jews. But it does not contain “except for the gharqad…” [The hadith is also cited in] Muslim, including said expression: 2239/4, number 2922. Volume: Pertaining to the turmoil and portents of the last hour; chapter: The hour [of judgment] will not come until a man passes by a man’s grave and wishes to take the place of the deceased.

Thanks to Paul Green.


False Reports of Jihadists “Quitting” or Abandoning Islamic Supremacism

By Jeffrey Imm

Another strategic error in the failure to address the ideological basis of Jihad in Islamic supremacism is that the lack of such a strategic debate allows a series of false and misleading reports about Jihadists allegedly “renouncing” jihad or abandoning Islamism. The point of these media reports are to suggest that either (a) there is no jihadist threat, or (b) what threat does exist is diminishing as “extremists” realize the folly of violence. Such reports have one clear purpose: quash public debate on the real ideological basis behind Jihad, with the secondary purpose of questioning Jihad as a “real threat.”

The Jihadist who is still a Jihadist

One example is the July 13, 2008 UK Guardian/Observer article by Lawrence Wright “The heretic — How Al-Qaeda’s mastermind turned his back on terror.” It is clear from a close reading of the article that the headline simply is not accurate, but the Guardian/Observer doesn’t expect most of the public to read the article closely, they are simply looking for a headline to influence public opinion.

Mr. Wright’s article is to “inform” the public how Sayyed Imam Al-Sharif, aka Dr. Fadl, has rejected terrorism. In Mr. Wright’s first paragraph, he trumpets how Al-Sharif was “rejecting al-Qaeda’s violence,” having written in a 2007 fax that “[w]e are prohibited from committing aggression, even if the enemies of Islam do that.” (The last part of Al-Sharif’s sentence should have been a tip-off to the observant reader.) Mr. Wright goes on in “Part One” of his article about the importance of Al-Sharif to Al-Qaeda, and how important his alleged defection from “terrorism” is.

In “Part Two” of Mr. Wright’s article, 75 paragraphs later, he writes that “[d]espite his previous call for jihad against unjust Muslim rulers, Fadl now says such rulers can be fought only if they are unbelievers, and even then only to the extent that the battle will improve the situation of Muslim.” So, how does that make Al-Sharif against Jihad? Only if rulers are “unbelievers”? After all, per Mr. Wright’s own article, Al-Sharif is the one with the historical ideology that identified virtually every Muslim who didn’t agree with him as a takfiri (unbeliever).

Further on in “Part Two” of Mr. Wright’s article, in paragraph 78, Mr. Wright states:

“Fadl [aka Al-Sharif] does not condemn all jihadist activity, however. ‘Jihad in Afghanistan will lead to the creation of an Islamic state with the triumph of the Taliban, God willing,’ he declares. The jihads in Iraq and Palestine are more problematic. As Fadl sees it, ‘If it were not for the jihad in Palestine, the Jews would have crept toward the neighbouring countries a long time ago.'”

In paragraph 79, Mr. Wright goes on to state: “Speaking of Iraq, he [Al-Sharif] notes that without the jihad there, ‘America would have moved into Syria.'”

In summary, Mr. Wright claims that Al-Sharif is against Jihadist terrorism, except for Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, the Palestinian territories, and rulers who are “unbelievers.” This is how Al-Sharif “turned his back on terror.” Anywhere else where Al-Sharif supports Jihad? Who knows where else Al-Sharif might call for Jihad if you asked him for more details? Thailand, Philippines, Somalia, etc? But the Guardian/Observer expects that its readers and the public will never get that far and will not realize that the article is merely a transparent attempt to discourage debate on the Jihadist threat.

A Non-Revolt against Jihad

On June 11, 2008, the New Republic published an article by Peter Bergen and Paul Cruickshank, “The Unraveling – The jihadist revolt against bin Laden.” In the article, the authors once again refer to Al-Sharif’s [aka Fadl’s] so-called beliefs on “illegitimate” terrorism and bombings in “Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and elsewhere.” Apparently, per Lawrence Wright’s July 13, 2008 article, “elsewhere” does not include Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, etc. This is not mentioned in the Bergen/Cruickshank article, as they are focused on Al-Sharif’s condemnation that “jihad … was blemished with grave Sharia violations during recent years.” In commending Al-Sharif’s “harsh words,” it never occurs to the writers to question the Sharia ideology of Islamic supremacism itself; the focus of such writing is to concentrate on specific individuals and tactical actions — reviewing their ideology or the basis for Jihad is not a topic for discussion.

Then the Bergen/Cruickshank article moves on to the alleged progress in the “ideological battle against Al Qaeda” in the growing Islamist sinkhole of the United Kingdom, without actually detailing what “ideologies” form the basis of such battles. Based on the authors’ interviews with “militants who have defected from Al Qaeda, retired mujahedin, Muslim community leaders,” the authors state that “when Al Qaeda’s bombs went off in London in 2005, sympathy for the terrorists evaporated.” The authors make no mention of the British Jihadist terror attempts and plots since 2005, including the 2006 transatlantic airline plot to attack the United States, as Jihad is not really their concern, just “Bin Laden.”

As Melanie Phillips points out regarding the UK, the Bergen/Cruickshank article argues the fallacy that “the only extremists are al Qaeda and others who support terrorism in Britain. They thus extol as moderates those who oppose al Qaeda and terrorism in Britain.” This is clear from those portions of the Bergen/Cruickshank article such as “Kamal El Helbawy, the Muslim Brotherhood leader who helped bring in moderates,” when the Muslim Brotherhood (“Jihad is our way”) is anything but “moderate.” Melanie Phillips also references comments in the article about the Masjid-al-Tawhid mosque and Usama Hassan, pointing to reported comments by Hassan’s father Sheikh Suhaib Hassan seeking “the establishment of an Islamic state under Sharia law,” and a letter from Usama Hassan stating that “I, of course, support a just Caliphate based on the Prophetic model…. your charge that I reject the Caliphate is a lie and slander, may Allah preserve us.”

The Bergen/Cruickshank article then sheepishly admits that “[m]ost of these clerics and former militants, of course, have not suddenly switched to particularly progressive forms of Islam or fallen in love with the United States (all those we talked to saw the Iraqi insurgency as a defensive jihad).” Since there is popular support against the tactical measures in Iraq, this is a transparent argument to conceal the fact that such Jihadists are indeed still Jihadists.

But the real point of the Bergen/Cruickshank article is that the values of equality and freedom do not matter when addressing Islamic supremacism. The authors state that: “If this is a war of ideas, it is their ideas, not the West’s, that matter.” This is where the mass denial among the free press on Jihad and Islamic supremacism has taken our culture. Our values of equality and freedom don’t matter in a war of ideas against Islamic supremacism.

Imagine news writers stating in the late 1960s that the values of freedom and equality don’t matter in the war against white supremacism – just the views of whites who sought segregation or racial inequality, or in the 1940s in the war against Nazi supremacism arguing that just the views of Aryans who sought to create a “master race” mattered. This failure to defend the values that enable a free press is where denial on the ideology of Islamic supremacism leads us.

Failure to Ask Tough Questions

With a free press unwilling to defend the values that enable it, it is not surprising that tough questions are not asked to groups and individuals who appear to condemn “terrorism.”

The UK-based Quilliam Foundation’s recent testimony on political Islamism to the Senate Homeland Security panel was beneficial. But while the Quilliam Foundation is lauded as an anti-Islamist organization, tough questions about the Quilliam Foundation’s ideological basis are not being asked in the media, or answered by the foundation.

In March 2008, I challenged the gullibility of the American media as shown by the March 6, 2008 report by U.S. News and World Report “Egypt’s Grand Mufti Counters the Tide of Islamic Extremism.” In my March article, I stated that alleged “moderate” Egyptian Grand Mufti Sheik Ali Gomaa (also spelled “Ali Gum’a”) was anything but “moderate,” providing a series of his comments (translated by MEMRI) in articles such as: “The New Egyptian Mufti – Dr. Sheikh ‘Ali Gum’a: Opinions About Jihad, Supporting Suicide Bombings, and Forbidding Muslims in the U.S. Military From Fighting Other Muslims,” “In Interview, Egyptian Mufti Ali Gum’a Questioned On Treatment of Women in Islam, Blames ‘Secularists’ For Terrorism Worldwide,” or “The Mufti of Egypt: The True Face of the Blood-Sucking Hebrew Entity has Been Exposed.” Yet the U.S. News and World Report article portrayed Sheik Ali Gomaa as “moderate” calling for “sharia law… [as] the best antidote to Islamic extremism.”

A month later, Robert Spencer of asked questions about the Quilliam Foundation that have not yet been addressed, and challenged the Quilliam Foundation to reject Islamic supremacism. He pointed to the Quilliam Foundation’s web site where it describes itself (“About Us”) as stating: “Just as Muslims across the globe have adopted from and adapted to local cultures and traditions, while remaining true to the essence of their faith, Western Muslims should pioneer new thinking for our new times. Here, Muslim scholastic giants, such as the noble Abdullah bin Bayyah and Shaikh Ali Goma (Mufti of Egypt), have provided ample guidance.”

This “Shaikh Ali Goma (Mufti of Egypt)” is the same individual referenced in my March 2008 challenge to the U.S. News and World report. To date, the Quilliam Foundation has not publicly replied to this or changed its website defending him as a “Muslim scholastic giant.” In addition, UK Islamist groups have reported that the UK’s Abdullah Quilliam was both a proponent of Jihad and the Islamic caliphate. I have not seen a response to this either.

We need to have the courage to ask ideological questions of other potential allies in fighting Jihad as well as defend the values of equality and freedom. This won’t happen without a real debate on the ideology that forms the basis for Jihadist action. However, many in the press want no debate on such an ideology, because they claim that there is no global Jihadist threat at all.
The Media’s Big Lie on Jihad and the Civil War of Ideas in America

An organization that provides commentary space for terrorist supporters and promotes individuals that seek non-intervention against Jihad might be considered a fifth columnist organization during war time.

But what happens when such an organization is the Washington Post newspaper? What happens when a major U.S. newspaper decides to refuse to print the news on the most important story in the world? Sadly, that it is precisely the circumstances that Americans find themselves in today with major media organizations and major newspapers such as the Washington Post and the New York Times.

The problem is summed up in the Washington Post’s July 13, 2008 column by Glenn L. Carle “Overstating Our Fears,” where the author states “we do not face a global jihadist ‘movement’.”

That position has become the mantra of the Washington Post’s and New York Times’ editorial boards and the editorial managers of the major news media outlets. It is a predetermined bias by which news reporting, news analysis, and commentary is filtered. This denial on global jihad is why less than 10 to 20 percent of the news regarding Jihad ever reaches the masses of the American public. This media denial on global jihad is why most of the American electorate has not yet been encouraged to seek its elected representatives to deal with this issue or to develop strategies to examine the ideological basis for Jihad.

Such media managers have successfully accomplished promoting the “big lie” that global jihad does not exist, with the presumption that if you deny it frequently enough, you will silence the debate. This concerted effort to suppress news reporting on Jihad and its ideological basis has allowed media managers to control the debate so completely that the Washington Post has no fear in actually coming right out and publishing its mantra that “we do not face a global jihadist ‘movement'” in its Sunday newspaper commentary section.

In the context of media managers programming the public that there is no global jihadist threat, it is little surprise that there are not mass objections to deceptions on Jihad in other media sources. What’s the problem with authorssaying that our values shouldn’t be the basis for a war of ideas? What’s the problem with authors claiming that Jihadists are against terrorism when they obviously support Jihadist terrorism in most of the major battlefields of Jihad? What’s the problem with the Washington Post providing editorials for Hamas, Hezbollah, promoting non-interventionists against Jihad, and condemning critics of Islamic supremacism? So what if the Washington Post published Bin Laden’s 1998 declaration of war 10 days after the 9/11 attacks? To many, there is no problem, because they are programmed to believe there is no global jihadist threat.

The fact is that global Jihadist threats continue to grow. But to news organizations that won’t report a majority of the news, such facts are invisible to the public. This is why I started publishing a saction/”>daily news feed of anti-terrorism news in 2002. It soon became clear that after the initial year of the shock from the 9/11 attacks, news reporting on Jihad was rapidly becoming inconsistent, due to debates over a potential war with Iraq. In a society where news reporting on Jihad was almost exclusively reactive in nature, the Iraq war became a new focus and a different interest. The media focus went from the immediate post-9/11 “how to defend America” viewpoint to a focus on “how to prevent war in Iraq and other parts of the world.” Non-interventionist ideology, previously a focus of ultra-conservatism and xenophobes, was then newly embraced by left-wing media managers. With the failure to find WMDs in Iraq in 2003, such growing non-interventionist ideology in the media grew from a whisper to a full-throated shout.

At the same time, I saw an increasing number of global jihadist attacks around the world, which has continued to grow today. In September 2006, I wrote about this problem of the media failing to adequately cover news reporting on Jihad. As previously mentioned, due to the inconsistency of any major American media source to consistently cover global news on Jihad, I created my own daily news feed. In 2003, I saw the global Jihadist news in global media sources increase to about 2000 unique reports per year, increasing to 6400 reports by 2004, 5400 reports by 2005, 7000 reports by 2006. By 2008, I am seeing 10,000+ reports on global Jihadist activity per year (this is being very conservative).

Anyone who reads the daily newslinks on or other sources can readily tell you that the numerous Jihadist reports around the world are hardly isolated incidents as the Washington Post editorial board would have the public believe.

You won’t see the majority of these reports on global Jihadist activity in the Washington Post or the New York Times, and if the story is not about Iraq, you will see very few on the front page. You won’t see the majority of these on CNN, FOX News, or the major networks. This is not because of the inability of these news media to report the news on global jihad, it is because of an editorial policy dictating that there is no global Jihadist threat, which has grown out of a non-interventionist world view on Jihad from media managers themselves.

According to the Washington Post, its principles include:
— “The newspaper shall not be the ally of any special interest, but shall be fair and free and wholesome in its outlook on public affairs and public men.”
— “The newspaper shall tell ALL the truth so far as it can learn it, concerning the important affairs of America and the world.”

Americans should ask themselves how the Washington Post and much of the American media changed from organizations with such principles to apologists for terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah, and to organizations with a focus to suppress the news when it comes to global jihad.

The war of ideas is not just between Western values of equality and freedom versus Islamic supremacism.

America also faces a civil war of ideas between the ideologies of Jihadist denial versus the Jihad confrontation. To get to the war of ideas against Islamic supremacism, we must overcome the civil war of ideas on denial versus confrontation on Jihad. In this civil war, every advocate of liberty and equality must assume a role in ensuring that the truth on global jihad and Islamic supremacism continues to get to the American people, regardless of the obstacles provided by the ideology of denial and the mass media.

This is our fight for America.


Wahhabi cleric complains about religous intolerance

Chutzpah alert:

Taqiyya full-swing in Madrid. “Attempts to impose views lead to conflicts,” by Badea Abu Al-Naja for Arab News, July 18:

MADRID: Sheikh Hassan Al-Saffar, a prominent Saudi Islamic scholar, expressed his hope that the World Conference on Dialogue in Madrid would help defeat instigators of wars and conflicts as well as proponents of a clash of civilizations.

Read: help defeat all who speak the truth about Islam, revealing its most troubling doctrines.

Speaking to Arab News on the sidelines of the conference, Al-Saffar said the move to impose one’s ideology over others was the main factor that threatens peaceful coexistence of people of different faiths. 

“Some people think that it’s their right to impose their views on others as they believe that only their religion is correct and others are wrong.This attempt to dominate over others undermines coexistence and human relations,” said Al-Saffar. “Those who want to propagate their ideas should present them in a decent manner and give the public the choice to accept or reject them. This will encourage free thinking and generate respect for the views of others.”

Really now, coming from a “prominent Saudi scholar”—in other words, a radical wahhabi—and unless he is specifically talking about Muslims, how can anyone take such talk seriously? While everything he said is true, of course, he, as well as all objective students of Islam, Muslim and non-Muslim, know that the only religious group that’s in the bad habit of “imposing” its view on others, attempting to “dominate” them, “propagate” their ideas, and undermining “coexistence,” all while “believ[ing] that only their religion is correct and others are wrong, are—drum roll please—Muslims. History unequivocally portrays this; while Islam’s sacred texts—from Koran to Hadith—command it. Koran 9:29 alone (said to abrogate the more tolerant Meccan verses) commands Muslims to do all those things he descried: “Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture [Jews and Christians] as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.” 

Al-Saffar said religions like Judaism, Christianity and Buddhism have undergone changes during the past several centuries, like the changes that have taken place in Islamic thought. “We cannot draw a picture of another religion based on an old book that was written centuries ago.”

Huh? So if Judaism, Christianity, and Buddhism (why no mention of Hinduism, incidentally?), had undergone absolutely no changes, would that then make them bad? And what, exactly, is so troubling about the messages of their “old books”? No where in these books, unlike the Koran and Hadith, are believers commanded to hound, persecuted, and subjugate others. Oh yea, the Hebrews purged Canaan: not the same thing. The commandments given the Hebrews to fight and slay the Canaanites were of a temporal quality, then and there, whereas Islam’s commandments are transcendent and apply at all times.

2 thoughts on “Saudi King can't find "intellectual roots" of jihad terror in Islam's holy scriptures”

  1. The poor king is obviously misinterpreting the Koran. He must be corrected via the usual method-death.

  2. Fitzgerald:

    288 people –“world leaders” and “religious leaders” and so on — attended this “historic” event. thing. For many of them, it was just one more gabfest, one more Davos, but with one difference. It was not about the Challenge of Change but rather, goody-goody stuff, the kind of thing everyone likes to take part in, the Common Good By Finding Common Ground For Humanity — oh, the humanity!. Who could resist? Say, did Jimmy Carter attend? Desmont Tutu? Were there specially luxurious quarters for the most ostentatiously pious helpers-of-humanity, or did everyone get equal treatment?

    And who could resist the free visit to Madrid, and the hotel suites paid for by the Saudis, and the banquests paid for by the Saudis, and all the luxe, and the gift bags, and the mementoes of this epic and epochal and earth-shaking phony event, and even the Mont Blanc pens, or whatever brand the Saudis are currently handing out like confetti, knowing — just like PR firms in New York and Los Angeles — that there is nothing like expensive gifties to win hearts, and win minds, no matter whose hearts and minds are being won.

    Forget about, just for this “historic” event, what’s actually taught in Saudi schools and preached in Saudi mosques. Forget about what is in the Qur’an, the Hadith, the Sira where Muhamamd, uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil, displays quite a different model of behavior than that of Jesus or Buddha.

    No, don’t bother with any of that stuff. That’s merely dragging up old unpleasantness. And don’t start talking about how in Islam there is a clear division between Believer and Infidel, and that Believers are inculcated with the idea that between them and Infidels a permanent state of war (though not necessarily of open warfare) exists, and for all time.

    Don’t mention that stuff. Don’t bring it out in the open. It just gets in the way. Why spoil the atmosphere by raising these questions? Shut up.

    And remember why we are here. We are here, you see, because we are “world leaders, spiritual and temporal.” We are here because we are sending a joint message to humanity: We Care. We are here because we are Very Important Personages, and on the ever-lengthening shadows of our resumes, another Great Achievement may be listed: Guest, Madrid Conference on Inter-Religious Blah-Blah.

    Impressive, isn’t it? We are certainly impressed with ourselves, and even more impressed with ourselves now that we have attended the conference. Aren’t you more impressed with us, too?

    And then, of course, there’s the loot.

    The loot. The loot.

    Posted by: Hugh at July 18, 2008 7:36 AM

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