“The Prosecutor is Anti-Muslim, that’s a Hate Crime!”

by sheikyermami on August 2, 2008

Al Arian in the dock

*  ”The prosecutor is aginst crime, that’s a hate crime!”

*  Islamo-logic at its best: from the ‘perverting everything’ department

Al-Arian defenders try to put his prosecutor on trial

It’s not that Al-Arian has admitted to aiding Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and has clearly been deeply involved in jihadist activity in the U.S. It’s that his prosecutor is “anti-Muslim.” This is another variation of the phenomenon I discussed here: if you tell the truth about jihad and Islamic supremacism, it must be because you “hate Muslims.” The focus shifts from defendant to prosecutor — which is just what the jihadists want to accomplish.

“A Prosecutor Is Called ‘Relentless,’” by Josh Gerstein for the New York Sun via DW

Comment by dumbledores:

You might like to refer Mr Kromberg to an article and discussion by Raymond Ibrahim that appeared here at jihadwatch on 4 July this year: ‘Excusing Taqiyya’:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/021625.php#comments

which includes this paragraph from Mr Ibrahim:

“As for the notion [in the 'whitewashing' article under discussion] that “some [Sunnis] reject taqiyya as unacceptable hypocrisy and evidence of cowardice…. Others argue that concealment is warranted under life-threatening circumstances,”

the very first lines of one of the few Arabic books wholly dedicated to treating the doctrine of taqiyya, called al-Taqiyya fi al-Islam (“Taqiyya in Islam”), by Islamic studies professor Sami Makarem, unequivocally states in its opening page:

‘Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Nearly every Islamic sect has agreed to it and practices it….Indeed, we can go so far as to say that mainstream Islam practices taqiyya, and that those few sects that do not practice it are aberrant, diverging from the mainstream.’ (p.7)”.

You might also refer him to another article, headlined by Marisol, ‘The Truth Depends on Who’s Listening’, also in jihadwatch this July,

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/021617.php

that dealt with Islamic dissimulation and situational speech.

Finally, there’s what Nonie Darwish said in her speech at Berkeley in October 2007:

http://frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=17069DA6-6C04-4E06-81C7-010C9F29AD55

“On Arab TV, I once saw a Muslim preacher telling little children that lying is not allowed except under three conditions 1- Lying to non-Muslims when it is in the best interest of Islam. 2- Lying to Muslims if it will end conflict between them. And 3rd: Lying to one’s wife to improve the relationship.

“Lying thus has become an obligation in international relationships, Muslim relationships and family relationships.

“Any wonder why Muslims were silent after 9/11?

“Those who expose the lying game are considered traitors.

” By allowing lying, Muslims have created a culture unable to distinguish between lies from truth; truth has become a convoluted game of saving face for the best interest of Islam.”

Since Mr Kromberg is Jewish, it is also worth noting that Ms Darwish, in the same speech, discussed the virulent and habitual antisemitism of Arab Muslim society, and the habit of blaming everything on the Jews). For example, about 9/11, she said:

“I was happy to return to the US on the evening of Sept. 10th. 2001. The next morning I saw the second airplane hit the twin towers, I knew ‘Jihad has come to America.’ Muhammad Attah was from Cairo, the same city I came from.

“I called several friends in Cairo, they were all in denial and said ‘How dare you say that Arabs did this? Don’t you know this is a Jewish conspiracy?’

“
These were not radicals, but ordinary Egyptians who otherwise are very nice people.

“I hung up the phone and felt alone and disconnected from my culture of origin.

” Once again, my people are accusing the Jewish people of something we know very well, we Arabs have done ourselves. In any religion this is considered a sin, but in the eyes of radical Islam, Jews do not deserve the truth, justice or mercy. ”

We can all see where the real animus lies, in this al-arian case. The Muslims are totally freaked out and spitting mad at the very idea of a despised JEW – badabadaboom! – being in charge of the prosecution. An unfoolable Jew, more to the point.

I think they’re even madder, because Mr Kromberg has ‘blown the gaff’ by publicly drawing to the jurors’ attention the unpleasant fact that Islam permits lying to the kafir, lying in Time of War.

Look at the article again:

“Kromberg argued to the jury that Timimi and the other Muslim witnesses — their testimony should be disregarded just on the basis of their religion,” al-Timimi’s defense lawyer, Edward MacMahon Jr., said. “I think it’s an outrageous thing to argue in the courtroom. Imagine that directed at any other religion.”"

Yeah. In the case of *any other religion*, it *would* be outrageous. But Islam is not *like* “any other religion” – precisely because it opens the door to lying. Witness, Professor Sami Makarem and his book on Taqiyya in Islam, referenced by Raymond Ibrahim.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 1, 2008 5:35 PM

Join the discussion...

Too small? Click here This is a satirical website. None of what you read here has anything to do with Islam, because Islam is a Religion of Peace. Everybody knows that good Muslims never do the things they do, (because Allah does it for them, Quran 8:12) and we know that only our misperceptions, ignorance and stereotyping of Islam makes Muslims chop off heads, kill and rape women and children, bomb subways, buses, nightclubs and fly jets into buildings. If it wasn't for the media and da Jooozzz, we wouldn't even know its happening. We welcome open, honest, thoughtful, and vigorous discussion in the comments threads, so do yourself a favour and don't accuse us of being 'haters' because we are loving, tolerant people. Don't curse us, don't threaten us with death or hellfire, and don't accuse us of being "just like the terrorists" because we don't do to Muslims what they do to us or to themselves. Yes, we know that only idiots oppose Islam and sensible people submit, but  you should know that we are ignorant bigots, hypocrites and Islamophobes, and we prefer to remain that way... But since you are forcing yourselves (and your abhorrent belief-system on us) we will defend ourselves, because we must. Avoid tu quoque and ad hominem attacks. Don't bother with circular reasoning either, we been there, done it.  If you annoy us, you will be banned and your posts summarily deleted. Try to add to the discussion, don't try to sell snake oil, don't try to cover us with Islamic shrouds of kitman and taqiyya, don't bother with da'awa, (we've heard it before) don't spam us with long pieces of cut & paste, write in English, try to tell the truth, (we know that's hard for you because you are all pathological liars) but the truth will set you free, try it! One more thing: don't think you can post here under multiple monikers. You will quickly be disappeared! The same goes for trufers and conspiracy kooks: you get one chance, one time. Blow it out of your ass if you must; put your stupidity on display. But you won't be back, trust me on that. Take a deep breath before you post, try to make some sense, do not just vent, do not make a fool of yourself and if you prove us wrong you can earn 10 Islamic dollars for your piggy bank. Deal?

{ 4 comments… read them below or add one }

Shiva August 2, 2008 at 5:20 am

Did you know

Support for the death penalty varies widely. Both in abolitionist and retentionist democracies, the government’s stance often has wide public support and receives little attention by politicians or the media. In some abolitionist countries, the majority of the public supports or has supported the death penalty.

A break down of the numbers of support versus opposition:

Worldwide 52%/39%,
North America 66%/27%,
Asia 63%/21%,
Central and Eastern Europe 60%/29%,
Africa 54%/43%,
Latin America 37%/55%,
Western Europe 34%/60%

These polls where held before 9/11 and the London bombings, what would be the result if a referendum was held to-day

The death penalty was abolished with-out a referendum.

warren August 2, 2008 at 9:58 am

A very valid point.

Joe Grey August 2, 2008 at 2:22 pm

>>”Islamo-logic at its best: from the ‘perverting everything’ department

Joe>>They have contempt for our laws and for our judicial system. They have contempt for us, our Judeo-Christian culture, and for our prosperity.

Joe Grey August 2, 2008 at 2:25 pm

They have contempt for western men walking with beautiful women, because they feel it is their right to rape them and force them to marry them.

Leave a Comment

Previous post:

Next post: