"There is no compulsion in religion" update

Pakistan: Christian girls forced to convert to Islam

*  The ugly reality versus the slimy taqiyya-spin-doctors in the West who tell you the old ‘no compulsion in islam’ chestnut. Now this is Islam -the real Islam- in action, as it always was since its inception. And this is what Christians, Hindus and Jews, Buddhists and Zoroastrians and all those unbelieving dhimmies are expected to  put up with under Islam. For if they revolt, there will be violent reprisals against their whole community, not only against a few. The  long suffering Copts in Egypt have been the  receiving end of this practice for too long, but because of the collective amnesia in the West about everything Christian has any politician ever spoken in their favor?

Kidnapped Christian girls in Egypt

Islamic Tolerance Alert: more on this story. “Christian girls forced to convert to Islam,” by Martin Barillas for Spero News, August 1: via DW


Justice Saghir Ahmed, a judge of the Multan bench of Lahore High Court, Pakistan, sent on July 29, 2008 two under-aged Christian girls to a “darul aman” in Multan, Punjab, for their safety. Darul aman is the name of the institutions set up by government for the shelter of women needing temporary sanctuary or protection.According to Aftab Alexander Mughal, of Minorities Concern of Pakistan, Saba Younis, 13 years old, and Anila, 10 years old, sisters and Christians, were kidnapped on June 26 by a Muslim man Muhammad Arif Bajwa and then forcibly converted to Islam. When the matter came before the court, Main Naeem Sardar, District and Sessions Judge Muzaffargarh, on July 12, ordered that the girls are not to be remanded to their Christian parents because the girls are Muslim now.

The father of the girls, Younis Masih, filed an appeal to the high court where a Muslim lawyer Rashid Rehman pleaded his case. The court did not believe that the girls accepted Islam by their own free will; therefore the girls were sent to a ‘darul aman’ in order to be relieved of pressure on the part of Muslims. The girls will again appear in court on Aug. 4 and then the case will be decided according to the girls’ statement.

“At least now the girls would be out of some pressure from those Muslims with whom they forcedly lived for 34 days,” said Rashid Rehman, a Muslim lawyer who appeared before the court on Masih’s behalf, as told to Minorities Concern of Pakistan.

The girls were kidnapped by Muslim fruit vendor Muhammad Arif Bajwa in Chowk Munda, a small town in South Punjab. They had come from Chak No. 552, a Muslim-dominated village, to Chowk Munda to visit their uncle. Bajwa kidnapped the girls at gun point and told them to remain silent or they would be killed. The girls were then sold to another Muslim man Falak Sher Gill , a well-known criminal….


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Pakistan: Christian home ransacked, family warned of “dire consequences if they refused to embrace Islam”

Islamic Tolerance Alert. “Christian Family Under Islamic Gunfire,” by Jawad Mazhar forBosNewsLife, August 2:

SARGODHA, PAKISTAN (BosNewsLife)– Tensions remained high Saturday, August 2, in a village on the outskirts of the Pakistani city of Sargodha, where gun wielding Muslim militant ransacked a Christian family’s home, family members and police told BosNewsLife.

Khalid Mehmood, a resident of the village of 79 Northern Branch, who has made clear he considers Christians “infidels” and “spies of the United States” was seen firing bullets at shanty house of an already impoverished Christian man Gullfaam Masih July 2.

He “shamelessly brandished his gun in the air and in insobriety kept shooting and ransacked the house of Masih,” witnesses said. The militant ripped of Masih’s wife clothing [and] warned Masih’s children “of dire consequences if they refused to embrace Islam,” according to family members and a police report seen by BosNewsLife.

A police report, submitted by the frail Masih to local police, says the attack took place late July 2 at 5:15 PM local time while Gullfaam Masih was at his work place and his wife and children were home. […]

Masih’s spouse said her husband was not at home when “this terrorizing showdown” occurred. “I was totally confused and didn’t know why this crazy Muslim man was shooting straight bullets,” at the house. Bullets apparently hit walls, bed sheets, cupboards, doors, and windows. She said that she saved herself and the children’s lives “by hiding behind a steel box.”

No compulsion in religion, just “shattering consequences”:

The militant returned several hours later, this time shooting bullets in the air while shouting “abusive language.” He left after two hours, warning them of “shattering consequences” if they would not “recant Christianity” and embrace Islam, the family said.

The latest incident came amid reports of escalating attacks against Christians following the first anniversary of a government backed military operation against Islamic militants hiding in the Red Mosque which killed at least 11 people.

Ferhan Mazher chairman of an independent rights and advocacy group ‘Rays Of Development Organization, (ROD)’ described the the recent attack on the house of Gullfaam Masih as “a sign of more imminent havoc within the Christian community of Pakistan.”

ROD plans to conduct street theaters to create “interfaith peace and harmony in the most restive, conservative and rural areas,” he said.



The ongoing war against the Copts:


Copts: “We have liberty of speech, and religion, but it’s as if somebody was telling us at the same time, ‘Don’t speak and don’t practice your religion'”

A monk at the Abu Fana Monastery wore a neck brace this week after a violent clash at the monastery in May.

Once again, the “Coptic issue” gets some exposure from a big paper. “As Tensions Rise for Egypt’s Christians, Officials Call Clashes Secular,” by Michael Slackman for the New York Times, August 2: DW

CAIRO — A monastery was ransacked in January. In May, monks there were kidnapped, whipped and beaten andordered to spit on the cross. Christian-owned jewelry stores were robbed over the summer. The rash of violence was so bad that one prominent Egyptian writer worried it had become “open season” on the nation’s Christians. 

Does Egypt face a sectarian problem?

Not according to its security officials, who insist that each dispute represents a “singular incident” tied to something other than faith. In the case of the monastery and the monks, officials said the conflict was essentially a land dispute between the church and local residents.

“Every incident has to be seen within its proper framework; you study an incident as an incident,” said an Interior Ministry spokesman who grew furious at the suggestion that Egyptians were in conflict because of their differing faiths. It is customary for security officials not to have their names revealed publicly.

Who could dare suggest such a thing?!

“An incident is an incident, and a crime is a crime,” he said. 

But the Egyptian security apparatus is increasingly alone in its insistence. 

Egypt is the most populous Arab country, with about 80 million people. About 10 percent are Coptic Christian.

For most of Egypt’s Coptics, the major flare-ups — the attack on the Abu Fana Monastery or riots in 2005 in Alexandria — are faraway episodes that serve only to confirm a growing alienation from larger society. For most, the tension is more personal, a fear that a son or daughter will fall in love with a Muslim or of being derided as “coftes,” which means “fifth column.”

This is an absurd statement. Copts don’t worry about anyone “falling in love” when it comes to Muslims. They do worry about their daughters being kidnapped, raped, and forced to convert to Islam.

“We keep to ourselves,” said Kamel Nadi, 24, a Coptic who runs a small shop in the Shubra neighborhood of Cairo. “Muslims can’t say it, but it’s clear they don’t accept us. Here no one can speak the truth on this issue, so everybody’s feelings are kept inside.”

The crowd quickly swelled as men and women and children joined the conversation, which almost imperceptibly began to shift toward grievances: There are no Christian officers in the police force. The villagers cannot get permission to build another church. There are no high-ranking Christian officials in their governate. And of course, if their daughters married Muslims, they would kill them.

Then, just as suddenly, the crowd thinned. The reason: state security was on the way. A village informant had already reported the conversation.

Guess what the religious identity of the “village informant” is?

“The police know you are here now,” said Mr. Taki Faris, before he, too, made himself scarce. “They are very anxious these days.”

“We feel pressure, maybe not all the time, but we do,” said Ashraf Halim, 45, a grocery store owner in the Shubra neighborhood in Cairo. “We have liberty of speech, and religion, but it’s as if somebody was telling us at the same time, ‘Don’t speak and don’t practice your religion.’ ”

The underlying tension in Egypt flares periodically around the country. There were riots when word spread of a Coptic play supposedly denigrating the Prophet Muhammad and again over plans to expand a church. The state treated each case as a security problem.

But the violence at the ancient Abu Fana Monastery in May elevated events to a new level. In a follow-up report issued last month, the National Council for Human Rights described the atmosphere in Egypt as an “overcharged sectarian environment” and chided the state, saying it “turns a blind eye to such incidents” and was “only content to send security forces after clashes catch fire.”


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