Lets make a Muhammad movie!

by sheikyermami on October 28, 2008

*  Because this one will be an Islamic propaganda flick.

* Yep, if we don’t make it who will? Would be interesting to film the mass-killing on the Banu Quraiza and how Muhammad divided the spoils, the rape of captured  women and their enslavement, along with the practice of “Azl” -(explained at the bottom of this page)

* News update: Muslims behead Christian convert from Islam in Somalia



The Message is regarded as the only epic to portray early Islam 
‘Halloween’ producer plans film on Islam birth

 
‘The Messenger of Peace’ will be set during time of Prophet Mohammed, focus wholly on rich values of Islam.

 Middle East Online

DUBAI – Producer Oscar Zoghbi, who worked on the “Halloween” series of Hollywood movies, has joined a team working on a new picture on the birth of Islam, according to details unveiled in Dubai Monday.

Titled “The Messenger of Peace”, the movie will be set during the time of the Prophet Mohammed, a media statement by the production company said.

Zoghbi, who was more recently involved in redeveloping Twickenham Studios in Britain, also contributed to making the 1977 film “The Message”, regarded as the only epic to portray early Islam.

The new film “is not about division and conflict but will focus wholly on the rich values common to all Muslims, like compassion and tolerance,” Zoghbi said.

Having worked with Moustapha Akkad, director of “The Message”, Zoghbi said he appreciates the sensitivities and challenges linked with the subject of Islam.

As with “The Message”, there will be no depiction of the Prophet Mohammed on screen, as images of the prophet are strictly forbidden in Islam.

“Since 9/11, Islam’s image has suffered tremendously,” said Hajja Subhia Abu Elheja, an international film financier and executive producer of the new movie. “Now more than ever it has become important to bridge the gap of understanding between Muslims and non-Muslims.”

“It is telling that only one great historical film has ever been made about Islam, a religion with 1.5 billion followers, whereas Christianity has been the subject of over 30,” he said.

Hollywood director Ramsey Thomas, also linked with “Halloween” and with other films like “Boiling Point”, will write the script for the new film, which will be shot in English but dubbed into other languages, in particular Arabic.

Moustapha Akkad died with more than 60 other people when bombers attacked three hotels in Amman, Jordan in 2005.

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“Azl” explained in the hadith: 

We went out with Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi’l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah’s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.[19]

 

History or Propaganda?

From DW

According to the executive producer’s reasoning for making the movie — “to bridge the gap of understanding between Muslims and non-Muslims” — one can’t help but conclude the latter.

“Prophet Mohammed film The Message set for remake,” by Chris Irvine, for the Telegraph, October 28:

A remake of The Message, a movie about the life of the Prophet Mohammed, is to be filmed, its producers have said. 

“The Messenger of Peace“, to be shot around the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, was originally a 1977 Hollywood film made by Moustapha Akkad and starring Anthony Quinn. 

It is often applauded by Muslims as an example of how commercial Western cinema can respect Islam.

Producer Oscar Zoghbi, who worked on the original, said: “We have only the utmost respect for Akkad’s work but technology in cinema has advanced since the 1970s and this latest project will employ modern film techniques in its renewal of the first film’s core messages.”

Executive producer of the new movie, Hajja Subhia Abu Elheja, said: “Since 9/11, Islam’s image has suffered tremendously.

“Now more than ever it has become important to bridge the gap of understanding between Muslims and non-Muslims.”

Clearly, then, this will be a movie totally based on the primary sources of Muhammad’s life, such as the hadiths and the sira of Ibn Ishaq. Wonder if the anecdote of Muhammad sending assassins to kill the aged Umm Kirfa (by tying her legs to two camels and driving them in separate directions) will be depicted?

“It is telling that only one great historical film has ever been made about Islam, a religion with 1.5 billion followers, whereas Christianity has been the subject of over 30.”

Yes, very telling: producers are terrified of having a fatwa issued against them.

The film’s scriptwriter Ramsey Thomas, said: “In the 21st century there is a real need for a film that emotionally engages audiences on the journey that led to the birth of Islam.” 

In the original Message, Mohammed was not seen or heard. Instead Syrian-born director Akkad signified the Prophet’s presence with light organ music and occasionally framed the film from the prophet’s point of view.

Two versions of the film were shot – one in Arabic and one in English. The remake will be only the second English-language film of its kind ever made.

Akkad, who was the executive producer behind Hollywood’s Halloween horror films, was killed in a suicide bomb attack on a luxury hotel in Jordan in 2005.

Portrayals of Mohammed have sparked anger in recent years – Danish cartoons of him in 2006 triggered protests by Muslims in many countries.

Random House US recently cancelled the publication of The Jewel of Medina, a book about one of Mohammed’s wives, over fears it would offend Muslims.

It was also pulled in the UK when publisher Martin Rynja’s house was targeted in a firebomb attack.

Why again are film-makers not too enthusiastic about making a movie about Muhammad?

Hollywood film on prophet’s life set for remake

• Film-makers plan to shoot movie in Saudi holy cities
• Original prompted US siege that left two dead

A poster for Message, the 1970s film about the prophet Muhammad  

A poster for Message, the 1970s film about the prophet Muhammad

It was one of the most controversial films of the 1970s: an English-language biopic of the prophet Muhammad that was bankrolled by Libyan leader Muammar Gadafy and went on to trigger a fatal siege ahead of its US premiere.

Now The Message could be scheduled for a grand return to the fray courtesy of a remake.

Oscar Zoghbi, a producer who worked on the 1976 original, has announced that a new version is to be filmed around the holy cities of Mecca and Medina.

“We have only the utmost respect for [the original film] but technology in cinema has advanced since the 1970s,” Zoghbi said yesterday. “This latest project will employ modern film techniques in its renewal of the first film’s core messages.”

The new film, The Messenger of Peace, is being scripted by Ramzi Thomas, whose credits include Some Call it Loving, Halloween 5 and Appointment with Fear. Thomas said: “In the 21st century there is a real need for a film that emotionally engages audiences on the journey that led to the birth of Islam.”

A spokesman for the producers suggested to Reuters that the film’s funding and production schedule had yet to be finalised, promising that details would be announced “in due course”.

The Message prompted controversy in the US when it was rumoured that Anthony Quinn was starring as Muhammad. In March 1977, a dozen Muslims stormed three civic buildings in Washington, taking 149 people hostage and demanding the film be destroyed. The now notorious Hanafi Muslim Siege resulted in the deaths of a police officer and a radio reporter, while council member, and future mayor, Marion Barry was wounded by a shotgun pellet. The hostages were eventually released after a 39-hour standoff.

While the Qur’an does not explicitly forbid images of Muhammad there are some that discourage the visual representation of any living creature. The concern about depicting Muhammad is that it will lead to idolatry, which is forbidden in Islam.

Most Muslims follow convention and avoid images of the prophet and choosing an actor to play him could be problematic, so would filming in Mecca and Medina. Both cities are strictly off-limits for non-Muslims, so all the cast and crew would have to be Muslim, and the project would need approval from the Saudi government.

The 1976 film, starring Quinn as an Arab follower of Muhammad, was funded by Gadafy. The prophet is not seen or heard in the film. Instead the director, Syrian-born Moustapha Akkad, signified Muhammad’s presence with light organ music and occasionally framed the film from the prophet’s point of view as he observed the actions of his followers. Two versions of the picture were shot, one in Arabic and the other in English.

Speaking at the time, Akkad claimed he made The Message because he wanted to explain Islam to a western audience. “I think there was something personal, being Muslim myself who lived in the west, I felt that it was my obligation, my duty, to tell the truth about Islam,” he said.

Portraits of key Islamic figures have prompted protests around the world and the film is likely to renew debate about freedom of expression and self-censorship. Random House recently cancelled the publication of The Jewel of Medina, a book about one of Muhammad’s wives, after fears that it would offend Muslims. It was also pulled in the UK, when the publisher’s London home was firebombed.

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"Islamophobia"=BS October 28, 2008 at 5:31 pm

“Halloween” people are behind this? Perfect-this Mo movie will be a true horror classic thanks to the subject material.

Of course IF this movie gets made it’ll be nothing but “Islam is peaceful” BS. No killings, no marrying of six year olds, no raping, no stealing. Just a happy bunch of fellows spreading the word of their god to the eager masses who can’t get enough of the message.

And still there will be rioting over even this benign type of movie!

revparadigm October 28, 2008 at 7:56 pm

Oh good grief they are trying so hard to turn Muhammad into a modern counterpart to Jesus, this smacks as a attack on Christianity just as much as a promotion of Islam. I bet you no matter how hard they try to make Muhammad look good, Muslims will protest this, simply because there will be such a disparity with the film’s character and what is simply read in the Quran.

A politically correct Muhammad.

HAHAHA!!!

Joe Grey October 29, 2008 at 2:25 am

“The Messenger of Peace’ will be set during time of Prophet Mohammed, focus wholly on rich values of Islam.”

****STUPIDITY INVITES MORE TERROR****

peace in islam February 2, 2009 at 8:16 pm

There is quite alot of weird and random stuff you have said here but I can’t be bothered to go through everything but I’ll go through the basics…
For example, AZL is somebody who I have never heard of. Also is the hadith that you have chosen from the sunni denomination or shia denomination or sufi denomination of islam? because each bears a different view to each other. Another factor is considering what is the hadith rated? there are some hadiths that have been passed down from liar to liar. I for example have read many hadiths from the best and most truthful (such as muslim and abu hurairah-why don’t you see if there is anything like that in the hadiths that they have passed on).
The hadith doesn’t make sense by the way because it shows the closest companions commiting zinah-illegal and immoral sexual intercourse which is punished by death if the man was married and not being good to his wife and by 50 lashes if it was an unmarried person.

Directed to islamphobia=bs:
funny you say that, because rape, killing and stealing are among the worse of crimes in islam. Also Aisha (ra) was actually 9 when she married muhammed (pbuh) but she actually wanted to marry him and arabs used to get married at young ages at the time, some boys would marry off when they were only 12 or 13 etc, some girls when 9 or 10 etc.

The reason why muslims do not want muhammed (pbuh) image shown is that it could lead to worship of him or that image.
See what happened to christianity for example-they were formerly unitarian (ie believing in one god without a three in one combo…one god and that’s it) nowadays we have trinitarian christians who believe that god is a three in one with the father the son and the holy spirit…they believe that Jesus is god and others of them believe that Jesus is the son of god part of the three in one combo to become god…why did this all begin?
Partly because the unitarian christians began making images of jesus christ and slowly yet steadily, they began to worship the image. Also because the romans that become christians altered the christian religion at the time, combining their own pagan beliefs and christianity, they combined the three in one thing from their own believes and placed it with christianity and mixed it all up to create what modern christians believe as christianity. meanwhile Paul (a man revered by christians) also changed the religion, a former jew who used to hate christians and killed some of jesus’ closest disciples-suddenly converted for some reason and come up with a whole new religion and said that it was christianity.
Coming from a religion like christianity to islam was a wonder for me-the priest that i knew used to speak so badly of muslims (even worse than this guy does) saying random believes that I just believed not because they made sense but because he the priest whom i followed said them.
A few years later I got to know a muslim person who laughed at what I thought islam was, he challenged me to read the Quran and also read the life of the prophet from an unbiased source (neither muslim nor christian nor muslim-hating) and a month later I asked him where the nearest mosque was and i converted.
wasalam-alaikum (peace to you all)

sheikyermami February 2, 2009 at 10:58 pm

May Allah prevent you from blowing up prematurely!

yourmum April 6, 2009 at 11:17 pm

You’re pathetic bigots.

sheikyermami April 6, 2009 at 11:50 pm

Thanks, yermum, what does that make you?

Brnmar May 14, 2009 at 11:46 am

I came to this site to read about a movie being made about one of G-D’s prophets. Unfortunately, the person writing the article has a diseased heart. I don’t know who you are but by the tone of your writing I can tell you are living a miserable life. If you don’t change your heart while still in this world, you will enter the hell-fire you so richly deserve.

Fenris December 14, 2009 at 6:29 pm

Few days ago on some Arab TV (Al Risala TV) they were showing a program: some kind of theological and intellectual challenge between 2 Muslim scholars and 2 Christean scholars. The challenge consists on a series of questions to both groups, and which one could get the most convincing answer. Well…by the end the 2 Christians came up with the conclusion that they need to make more researches on their sources from 2000 years!

This “web-shit” and many like this one, represents only the poor ideas of some TOTALLY IGNORANT people which have a completely biased way of thinking. What come into my mind when I read stuff like this is just the people of “Quraich” saying exactly the same things about the prophet (pbuh) at that time. Well, that was on the 7th century…nothing changed with some minds since then. But things are easier for us, at that time they were only 5 persons facing thousands. Now we are 1.5 billion, facing few thousands (not all Christians or all Jews are our enemies). So what people failed to do 1400 years ago, they will never succeed in doing it today.

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