Jihadists are the vilest of creatures…

Mumbai doctor: “Of all the bodies, the Israeli victims bore the maximum torture marks”

Did the murderers feel justified in this torture by this Qur’anic injunction? “Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews” (5:82)? This horrific news from Mumbai underscores the crucial importance of the point made by Bat Ye’or years ago: that those who are the potential victims of Islamic jihad need to unite together to fight against it. Dhimmi communities — Jews, Christians, as well as the Hindus who were awarded dhimmi status during the Islamic conquest of India — need to stand together against Islamic supremacism and jihadist barbarism. If we do not hang together, we shall assuredly hang separately.

* Terrorists posed as Malaysian students

“Doctors shocked at hostages’s torture,” by Krishnakumar P and Vicky Nanjappa for Rediff, November 30 (thanks to JW):

They said that just one look at the bodies of the dead hostages as well as terrorists showed it was a battle of attrition that was fought over three days at the Oberoi and the Taj hotels in Mumbai.

Doctors working in a hospital where all the bodies, including that of the terrorists, were taken said they had not seen anything like this in their lives.

“Bombay has a long history of terror. I have seen bodies of riot victims, gang war and previous terror attacks like bomb blasts. But this was entirely different. It was shocking and disturbing,” a doctor said.

Asked what was different about the victims of the incident, another doctor said: “It was very strange. I have seen so many dead bodies in my life, and was yet traumatised. A bomb blast victim’s body might have been torn apart and could be a very disturbing sight. But the bodies of the victims in this attack bore such signs about the kind of violence of urban warfare that I am still unable to put my thoughts to words,” he said.

Asked specifically if he was talking of torture marks, he said: “It was apparent that most of the dead were tortured. What shocked me were the telltale signs showing clearly how the hostages were executed in cold blood,” one doctor said.

The other doctor, who had also conducted the post-mortem of the victims, said: “Of all the bodies, the Israeli victims bore the maximum torture marks. It was clear that they were killed on the 26th itself. It was obvious that they were tied up and tortured before they were killed. It was so bad that I do not want to go over the details even in my head again,” he said.

Corroborating the doctors’ claims about torture was the information that the Intelligence Bureau had about the terror plan. “During his interrogation, Ajmal Kamal said they were specifically asked to target the foreigners, especially the Israelis,” an IB source said.

It is also said that the Israeli hostages were killed on the first day as keeping them hostage for too long would have focused too much international attention. “They also might have feared the chances of Israeli security agencies taking over the operations at the Nariman House,” he reasoned.

On the other hand, there is enough to suggest that the terrorists also did not meet a clean, death.

The doctors who conducted the post mortem said the bodies of the terrorists were beyond recognition. “Their faces were beyond recognition.”

There was no way of identifying them,” he said. Asked how, if this is the case, they knew the bodies were indeed those of the terrorists, he said: “The security forces that brought the bodies told us that those were the bodies of the terrorists,” he said, adding there was no other way they could have identified the bodies.

An intelligence agency source added: “One of the terrorists was shot through either eye.”…

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Pamela calls for a Constitutional remedy

MUMBAI: MUSLIMS UNMERCILESSLY TORTURED THE VICTIMS, JEWS GOT IT THE WORST

I am angry. I am sick in my soul. The West refuses to engage this enemy that has declared all out war on our civilization. The media, the UN, the political elites bow to Islam. They refuse to speak its name. They refuse to stop immigration. They are afraid.

I am not unafraid. I AM CALLING FOR NEW LEGISLATION -“Mumbai legislation”.Rollback all pending legislation on gun control. Rollback all gun control,  effective immediately. If the Indians had been armed the Muslims would have been stopped dead in their tracks. If this photographer had been armed, he would have shot jihadis and not the pictures of he blood lust in their  eyes. Would pious NY cops react the same way?

Mumbia

New York has severe gun control laws. Who needs the second amendment more than New Yorkers? They are targeting railways? Imagine Grand Central of Penn Station at rush hour …. or Times Square anytime. No guns for criminals, no guns for felons … but upstanding American citizens are entitled to arm themselves – a right guaranteed  by the constitution,  for a  reason.

WE, THE PEOPLE, MUST FIGHT THIS WAR. Our elected officials are on the Saudi payroll, emasculated by petrodollars. Obama declared on page 261 of his book, should the political winds shift ……he would side with the Muslims.

The left will not fight this war. Historically, leftists have always slept with totalitarian regimes. We are witnessing it here in the US yet again. What is discouraging are those on the right that have turned tail on the war and moved left.

They have become part of the problem.

We must stop the State department from importing whole Muslim communities – they come and seek to impose sharia and Islamic supremacism. We must pass Tancredo’s jihad legislation. We must get on a war footing.

The world has 1.2 billions Muslims. They must take sides. They must take to the streets shouting not in our name. They must take action to fight this pox on humanity.

These attacks on the West will not only continue, they will get worse. The enemy is empowered and they are winning. I have been documenting this holy war for years, what they are planning for the US is difficult to imagine. They were planning Mumbai for over a year.

Doctors shocked at hostages’s torture Rediff India (hat tip Cathy)

They said that just one look at the bodies of the dead hostages as well as terrorists showed it was a battle of attrition that was fought over three days at the Oberoi and the Taj hotels in Mumbai. Doctors working in a hospital where all the bodies, including that of the terrorists, were taken said they had not seen anything like this in their lives.

“Bombay has a long history of terror. I have seen bodies of riot victims, gang war and previous terror attacks like bomb blasts. But this was entirely different. It was shocking and disturbing,” a doctor said.

Asked what was different about the victims of the incident, another doctor said: “It was very strange. I have seen so many dead bodies in my life, and was yet traumatised. A bomb blast victim’s body might have been torn apart and could be a very disturbing sight. But the bodies of the victims in this attack bore such signs about the kind of violence of urban warfare that I am still unable to put my thoughts to words,” he said.

Corroborating the doctors’ claims about torture was the information that the Intelligence Bureau had about the terror plan. “During his interrogation, Ajmal Kamal said they were specifically asked to target the foreigners, especially the Israelis,” an IB source said.

It is also said that the Israeli hostages were killed on the first day as keeping them hostage for too long would have focused too much international attention. “They also might have feared the chances of Israeli security agencies taking over the operations at the Nariman House,” he reasoned.

Asked specifically if he was talking of torture marks, he said: “It was apparent that most of the dead were tortured. What shocked me were the telltale signs showing clearly how the hostages were executed in cold blood,” one doctor said.

The other doctor, who had also conducted the post-mortem of the victims, said: “Of all the bodies, the Israeli victims bore the maximum torture marks. It was clear that they were killed on the 26th itself. It was obvious that they were tied up and tortured before they were killed. It was so bad that I do not want to go over the details even in my head again,” he said.

Corroborating the doctors’ claims about torture was the information that the Intelligence Bureau had about the terror plan. “During his interrogation, Ajmal Kamal said they were specifically asked to target the foreigners, especially the Israelis,” an IB source said.

UPDATE: Re-running the link to Bostom’s piece at American Thinker. Dr. Bostom wrote me,

“The “coverage” of the Mumbai massacre(s) has been an appalling spectacle of  IGNORANCE, denial, and scapegoating–of the victims.

If Hindus and Jews (and in the end, all potential non-Muslim victims of jihad) don’t realize their shared predicament–targeting by jihad hatred– after these events, then they never will, possibly hastening their separate destruction.”

UPDATE: Spencer here: “Did the murderers feel justified in this torture by this Qur’anic injunction? “Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews” (5:82)?”

Dumbles comments:

Muslims only disapprove of awful stuff like this if it ‘harms Muslims’ and damages Muslims’ image.

Islam has no conception of the Golden Rule.

Whatever benefits Muslims is ‘good’; whatever disadvantages them, is ‘bad’.

And so far as I can tell, Islam subscribes the creed of Lord Voldemort: “there is neither good nor evil, there is only Power, and those too weak to seek it”.

Here, for the benefit of new visitors, is the great 18th-century Scottish freethinker, David Hume, summing up Muslim ethics, or rather the lack thereof, in one magnificent paragraph, first shared with us here at jihadwatch by its discoverer, four years ago:


”But would we know, whether the pretended prophet {Mohammed} had really attained a just sentiment of morals?

“Let us attend to his narration; and we shall soon find,

“that he bestows praise on such instances of treachery, inhumanity, cruelty, revenge, bigotry, as are utterly incompatible with civilized society.

“No steady rule of right seems there to be attended to;

“*and every action is blamed or praised, so far only as it is beneficial or hurtful to the true believers*.” {My emphasis added – dda}


David Hume (1711-1776) “Of the Standard of Taste: Paragraph 4” (1757) 
http://www.mnstate.edu/gracyk/courses/phil%20of%20art/hume%20on%20taste.htm#p4
Posted by: Rublev at September 4, 2004 1:17 PM

Marco Polo observed exactly the same phenomenon four centuries previously:

“The Muslims in Persia are wicked and treacherous.

“The law which their prophet Mohamet [Muhammad] has given them lays down

“that *any harm they may do to one who does not accept their law, and any appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all* {my emphasis added – dda}..

“And if they suffer death at the hands of Christians, they are accounted martyrs.”

(The Travels of Marco Polo, Penguin Books 1958, pp. 57-58.).

In ‘The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades’, pp. 5-7, and then again in ‘The Truth About Muhammad’, pp. 97-99, Mr Spencer discusses the legendary Nakhla Raid, carried out by Mohammed’s followers during a period that the pre-Islamic Arabs regarded as a truce month in which fighting was forbidden.

Allegedly, Mohammed was at first disturbed by this, but then, as Mr Spencer observes, on p. 99 of Truth About Muhammad:

“another helpful revelation came from Allah, explainng that the Quraysh’s opposition to Muhammad was more offensive in his [allah’s] eyes than the Muslims’ violation of the sacred month: the raid was therefore justified.

“They question thee, O Muhammad, with regard to warfare in the sacred month. Say: warfare therein is a great transgression, but to turn men from the way of Allah, and to disbelieve in him and in the Inviolable Place of Worship, and to expel His people thence, is a greater transgression with Allah; for persecution is worse than killing”.

“Whatever sin the Nakhla raiders had committed in violating the sacred month was nothing compared to the Quraysh’s sins…

“This was a momentous incident, for it would set a pattern: good became identified with anything that redounded to the benefit of Muslims, and evil with anything that harmed them, without reference to any larger moral principle.

“Moral absolutes were swept aside in favor of the overarching principle of expediency”.

Andrew Bostom: Hindus, Jews, and Jihad Terror in Mumbai

In The American Thinker, Andrew Bostom, the editor and compiler of the superb, essential collections The Legacy of Jihad and The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism, tells truths that the mainstream media won’t tell you (many links in the original):

Sixty hours of jihadist terror depredations throughout India’s financial capital, Mumbai — during which nearly 200 innocent victims were murdered, and 300 wounded — apparently ceased this Saturday, November 29, when Indian commandos slew the last three gunmen inside a luxury hotel, while it was still ablaze. Mainstream media coverage of these rampaging, cold-blooded murderous acts of jihad terrorism — perpetrated by a self-professed “mujahideen” organization (i.e., “The Deccan Mujahideen”) — consistently ignored the clear ideological linkage to Islam. Simply put, “mujahideen” are Muslim jihadists, “holy warriors,” because there is just one historically relevant meaning of jihad, despite present day apologetics.The root of the word jihad appears 40 times in the Koran and in subsequent Islamic understanding to both Muslim luminaries — from the greatest jurists and scholars of classical Islam, to ordinary people — meant and means “he fought, warred or waged war against unbelievers and the like.” As described by the seminal mid-19th century Arabic lexicographer E.W Lane, “Jihad came to be used by the Muslims to signify wag[ing] war, against unbelievers.” A contemporary definition, relevant to both modern jihadism and its shock troop “mujahideen” was provided at the Fourth International Conference of the Academy of Islamic Research at Al Azhar University, Cairo — Islam’s most important religious educational institution — in 1968, by Muhammad al-Sobki:

…the words Al Jihad, Al Mojahadah, or even “striving against enemies” are equivalents and they do not mean especially fighting with the atheists…they mean fighting in the general sense…

Contemporary validation of the central principle of jihad terrorism — rooted in the Koran — (for example, verses 8:12, 8:60, and 33:26), i.e., to terrorize the enemies of the Muslims as a prelude to their conquest, has been provided in the mainstream Pakistani text on jihad warfare by Brigadier S.K. Malik, originally published in Lahore, in 1979. Malik’s treatise was endorsed in a laudatory Foreword to the book by his patron, then Pakistani President Zia-ul-Haq, as well as a more extended Preface by Allah Buksh K. Brohi, a former Advocate-General of Pakistan. This text — widely studied in Islamic countries, and available in English, Urdu, and Arabic — has been recovered from the bodies of slain jihadists in Kashmir. Brigadier Malik emphasizes how instilling terror is essential to waging successful jihad campaigns:

Terror struck into the hearts of the enemies is not only a means, it is the end in itself. Once a condition of terror into the opponent’s heart is obtained, hardly anything is left to be achieved. It is the point where the means and the end meet and merge. Terror is not a means of imposing decision upon the enemy (sic); it is the decision we wish to impose upon him…”Jihad,” the Koranic concept of total strategy…[d]emands the preparation and application of total national power and military instrument is one of its elements. As a component of the total strategy, the military strategy aims at striking terror into the hearts of the enemy from the preparatory stage of war…Under ideal conditions, Jihad can produce a direct decision and force its will upon the enemy. Where that does not happen, military strategy should take over and aim at producing the decision from the military stage. Should that chance be missed, terror should be struck into the enemy during the actual fighting.

…the Book [Koran] does not visualize war being waged with “kid gloves.” It gives us a distinctive concept of total war. It wants both, the nation and the individual, to be at war “in toto,” that is, with all their spiritual, moral, and physical resources. The Holy Koran lays the highest emphasis on the preparation for war. It wants us to prepare ourselves for war to the utmost. The test of utmost preparation lies in our capability to instill terror into the hearts of the enemies.

 

The Islamic correctness of most mainstream media outlets — which refused to consider such ideological motivations, rooted in jihad — did not apply, however to Hindus, or Jews-targeted infidel victims of the attacks. Blithely ignoring obvious Islamic and Muslim connections — credit taken for the attacks by a mujahideen organization; or testimony from a Turkish Muslim couple briefly apprehended, and then released unharmed by the jihadists because, “…[w]hen the (Muezzinoglus) said they were Muslims, their captors told them that they would not be harmed” — some media (at Fox; NPR) even voiced their own “speculations” about the possible culpability of “Hindu extremists,” an absurd calumny, stated in full paranoid transference mode by the Muslim Brotherhood:

A photograph published in Urdu Times, Mumbai, clearly shows that Mossad and ex-Mossad men came to India and met Sadhus and other pro-Hindutva elements recently. A conspiracy was clearly hatched.

Yet these same media offered no speculation about Islamic Jew-hatred as an obvious potential motivation for the transparently selective attack on Mumbai’s Chabad House — a focal point symbol of the miniscule Jewish community of 5000 (or 0.03%) in a city of some 15 million inhabitants. More egregiously, this neglect of any hateful Islamic motivations for the targeted murder of such innocent Jews — including a young Lubavitcher Rabbi and his wife — was accompanied by consistently dehumanizing and demeaning references to these victims as “Ultra-Orthodox,” and their entirely false characterization as “missionaries.”

This current Jewish tragedy within a much larger non-Muslim, primarily Hindu tragedy, reminded me of the Indian Sufi “inspiration” for The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism, Ahmad Sirhindi. Nearing completion of my first book compendium, The Legacy of Jihad, in early 2005, specifically the section about jihad on the Indian subcontinent, I came across a remarkable comment by the Indian Sufi theologian Sirhindi (d. 1624). Typical of the mainstream Muslim clerics of his era, Sirhindi was viscerally opposed to the reforms which characterized the latter ecumenical phase of Akbar’s 16th century reign (when Akbar became almost a Muslim-Hindu syncretist), particularly the abolition of the humiliating jizya (Koranic poll tax, as per Koran 9:29) upon the subjugated infidel Hindus. In the midst of an anti-Hindu tract Sirhindi wrote, motivated by Akbar’s pro-Hindu reforms, Sirhindi observes,

Whenever a Jew is killed, it is for the benefit of Islam.

There is much more. Read it all.

3 thoughts on “Jihadists are the vilest of creatures…”

  1. I hope that the Indian people know that whatever Reverend Jeremiah Wright says it doesn’t represent the views of all of America. Lots of us in America see Jeremiah Wright as a source of shame and view him with contempt.

    I don’t feel that this is a case of India’s chickens coming home to roost. Lots of us in America would be appalled at hearing Reverend Jeremiah Wright say “God Damn India”.

    It really concerns me that such a low life is so close to our President-elect.

  2. This is just anotheir case of people who are hard-corp muslim/Mohammed ‘lost souls’! We
    should immediately drop the hammer so to speak on Saudi Arabia & Pakistani Military/Military Intelligence. We should should immediately strike the many Islamic training camps over the border in Pakistan. We should hit at least 10 camps the same night, we own the night, We should kill every individual present in the camps!!! They strike, We strike harder, Israel knows there is no diplomacy with these fanatic, Mentally brainwashed
    individuals!

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