Robert Spencer offers some good advice to man who never learned a thing….
Dazed and confused
Mr. Peres, I am very glad to clear this up for you.Â The Hamas CharterÂ quotes the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood in this way: “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it” (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).
The Charter also says, in article six:
The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned.
That security and safety is elucidated by the Qur’an, in which Muslims are told to “fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (9:29)
So once the rule of Islamic law is established over all the land of Israel, and the Jews pay the jizya tax with willing submission and feel themselves subdued, accepting a status of inferiority (dhimmitude) vis-a-vis the Muslims, their security and safety will be secured — as long as they don’t get out of line.
That is what Hamas’ goals are: the destruction of the Jewish state and the subjugation of the Jews under the rule of Islamic Sharia. That’s why it continues to fire missiles from Gaza.
Happy to be of service, sir!
“Peres: There’s no logic to Hamas rocket attacks from Gaza,” by Barak Ravid forÂ Haaretz, December 30 (thanks to DW):
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and President Shimon Peres held a meeting on Tuesday morning at the President’s Residence in Jerusalem. The premier updated Peres on the latest developments as the Israel Defense Forces offensive in Gaza enters its fourth day….”Israel is not fighting the Palestinian population but a terrorist organization whose raison d’etre is continued violence and destabilizing the region,” said Peres, who also remarked that Hamas bears responsibility for the situation unfolding in Gaza.
“Nobody in this world understands what are Hamas’ goals and why it continues to fire missiles,” the president said. “This shooting has no point, no logic, and no chance.”
Israel wants end to ‘terrorism,’ not Gaza truce: Peres(AFP)Â 30 December 2008
JERUSALEM – Israeli President Shimon Peres said on Tuesday that the Jewish state wanted “a stop to terrorism” rather than a truce in the Hamas-run Gaza Strip, where it pummelled the Islamists for a fourth day.Â
“What we want is not a ceasefire but a stop to terrorism,” Peres said in televised comments.
“This war does not resemble any war that we have waged in the past,” he said. “This is a very difficult operation against terrorists. I suggest to the people not to underestimate the enemy.”
Israel has shrugged off mounting international calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, with Infrastructure Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer telling AFP: “There is no reason that we would accept a ceasefire at this stage.”
An article from last May:
Fitzgerald: When The Fool of Chelm Is At The Helm, Or, What Peres Did, He Undid
“Although in ’98 everything seemed dark because of Rabin’s murder, I believed we could still move the peace process ahead more quickly. I did not think we’d have so many problems. I believed the separation between the West Bank and Gaza would make things easier, not harder. I did not imagine that we would leave Gaza and they would fire Qassams from there; I did not imagine that Hamas would show so strongly in the elections.” — from this inteview with Shimon Peres in Ha’aretz by Lily Galili
Since Ehud Olmert was a bit indisposed, the honors fell to Shimon Peres. It was he who as President of Israel met with foreign journalists to remind them — and they did need reminding — of what Israel has achieved in the sixty years of its existence. Seven hot wars and two intifadas, along with unceasing economic and diplomatic warfare, did not prevent Israel from becoming the refuge and hope for Jews. And despite having no natural resources — no oil, for example, to match the trillions that its mortal enemies pile up thanks not to any industriousness or entrepreneurial flair or inventive genius, but purely to an accident of geology — Israel has become an example to the rest of the world of how to build a nation-state. And this building has been achieved not because of, but despite, having a political class unworthy of its citizens — a problem not confined to Israel.
One member of that permanent class is Shimon Peres. For the past three decades Shimon Peres has not only played the fool, but has been the fool. Perhaps now, at long last, after the thousands of rockets fired from Gaza, reality has begun to sink in. At least he has publicly admitted his surprise — he, Peres, is always being surprised — at what happened in Gaza once the Israelis left, abandoning Jewish towns (not “settlements” but towns), which was, of course, what anyone of sense could, and did, predict. And it is exactly the lesson of Gaza that applies to the “West Bank,” though perhaps Shimon Peres is incapable of drawing that conclusion. He certainly cannot, at this point, begin to ponder the Islamic basis for Arab and Muslim opposition — murderous opposition — to the permanent existence of Israel. It would be too painful. He can’t do it.
Shall we let bygones be bygones? Shall those who care about the survival of Israel pay attention, on the occasion of its 60th anniversary, in a spirit of untruth and reconciliation, to what Peres did that was right, long ago, when he helped create Israel’s essential, never-to-be-surrendered nuclear deterrent, and ignore the way he has been, the damage he has done, for the past thirty years, ever since Sadat came to Israel to be hailed as Saint Sadat, Prince of Peace?
No, we shouldn’t. Peres is like Ariel Sharon, who founded Unit 101 and successfully suppressed terror from Jordan, and in the 1948 war and 1967 war and 1973 war was a spectacular commander, but who in his last years expelled Jewish villagers, and tore down their villages and towns, and provided the precedent of the Gaza surrender, and Ehud Olmert, and thus did damage that may have outweighed the good he once did. And Shimon Peres, who in the 1950s helped foster the nuclear-weapons project, by his later words and deeds undid whatever good he may once have done.
In his famous speech (“The barge she sat in, like a burnished throne/Burned on the water…”) in “Antony and Cleopatra,” Enobarbus ends with an image of those pretty dimpled boys, fanning Cleopatra and her retinue, cooling them down but at the same time heating them up, so that “what they undid, did.”
It’s the same with Shimon Peres and Ariel Sharon, but in scansion-smashing reverse: “What they did, they undid.”
Those who still don’t know what folly Peres encouraged need to take a look at “Shimon Says,” a compilation by Rael Jean Isaac and Roger Gerber of his most self-damning remarks:
Peres views himself as a visionary (he has stated, “I got a license to become a dreamer”)2 and is someone who speaks him mind openly. In view of his central position in Israeli political life, and in the Oslo process especially, we offer a sampling of some characteristically idiosyncratic utterances in recent years.Â
This is not a negotiation of give and take because Israel has something to give but has nothing to take.3
I don’t think we should judge the process by the performance of Yasir Arafat. We’re not negotiating with Yasir Arafat. We’re negotiating with ourselves.4
Papers are papers and realities are realities. We cannot judge the PLO and its leader just by what he is saying. Would we do so, we would be completely wrong and we would be in troubles.5
[Responding to an interviewer who asked “Are you saying that what Arafat told you in Oslo is sufficient, that he does not have to sign any new commitments?”] I am not a notary who writes affidavits.6
[Asked about Arab statements that there would be no peace without an Arab Jerusalem]: These are only words. Let them talk.7
[Reacting to an Arab song, “Zionist, your death is in my hands”]: There are those who sing and those who shoot. I’m checking out those who shoot.8
THE NEW MIDDLE EAST
We are going to copy a European example which is called Benelux. I hope the relations between the Jordanians, the Palestinians, and us will be very much of the same nature that exists in Benelux.9
A Middle East where holiness will overcome oiliness . . .10
[In Gaza] a dynamic reconstruction has started. . . . Women are throwing away their veils and are going swimming in the sea.11
I have always tended to be overly optimistic.12
An army that can occupy knowledge has yet to be built. And that is why armies of occupation are passÃ©.13
It is no wonder that war, as a matter of conducting human affairs, is in its death throes and that the time has come to bury it.14
Anyone who wants peace and security will get neither.15
It was a mistake to bomb the nuclear reactor in Iraq.16
Between ten bunkers and ten hotels, ten hotels are also defense.17
We claim that the United States and Europe became so productive that the only thing you can really produce is unemployment. The more productive you are becoming, the more unemployed people you are having. The time has come to export your unemployment.18
In technology, we have an advantage over the former Soviet Union, because our technology is more advanced. We have an advantage over the United States, because our prices are less capitalistic.19
As a protÃ©gÃ© of David Ben-Gurion, I subscribe to his philosophy that “I may not know what the people want; I do know what is good for the people.”20
We are discovering that all the things we are fighting for are not so important.21
The more we give up land, we discover we have more Ph.D.s per kilometer — so we are going to make a living on the Ph.D.s and not on the mileage.22
We live in a world where markets are more important than countries.23
[To those who disagree with his vision]: It’s a changed world and . . . you are out of date.24
[In the Knesset, to Benjamin Netanyahu]: You were in America and you are still in a daze. You have just come back and, believe you me, you have not got a clue what we are talking about.25
We are in transition from a world of identifiable enemies to one of unidentifiable problems.26
What we have to do is to economize our policies, and not to politicize our economies, which is so costly and so expensive. Dictatorship, nowadays, is so expensive that only rich countries can afford it. Poor countries can hardly suffer it — with an outsized secret service, the censorship, the permanent control, the worries, the suspicion, the narrowness, the closeness, the ignorance.27
I have become totally tired of history, because I feel history is a long misunderstanding.28
I feel in some ways the most independent political figure in Israel. Nobody can add to what I have done, and nobody can take away from what I did.29
[Describing his courtship]: Her name was Sonia, and she was eventually to become my wife. I sought to impress her by reading to her, sometimes by the light of the moon, selected passages from Marx’s Das Kapital.30
2 Pennsylvania Gazette, Nov. 1994.
3 Statement before the 50th Session of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights, Geneva, Feb. 10, 1994.
4 Jewish Week (New York), June 2, 1994.
5 Heritage (Los Angeles), June 3, 1994.
6 Israel Radio, May 23, 1994.
7 Speech in New York City, May 23, 1994.
8 The Jerusalem Post International Edition, Feb. 3, 1996.
9 Address to Council of the Socialist International, Oct. 6, 1993.
10 Remarks to Fourth Business Forum Conference, Jerusalem, Feb. 28, 1994.
11 Die Welt, July 14, 1995.
12 Shimon Peres, The New Middle East (New York: Henry Holt and Company, 1993), p. 18.
13 Remarks on acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize, Oslo, Dec. 10, 1994.
15 The Jerusalem Post, May 7, 1995.
16 Ha’aretz, Dec. 24, 1995.
17 Ha’aretz, Jan. 29, 1996.
18 Speech to The Washington Institute for Near East Policy, Feb. 2, 1994.
19 Remarks before the Knesset Economic Committee on the Arab Boycott, Feb. 21, 1994.
20 The Jerusalem Post International Edition, Dec. 23, 1995.
21 Jewish Week, June 2, 1994.
22 Pennsylvania Gazette, Nov. 1994.
24 Speech in New York City, May 23, 1994.
25 IBA television, Jerusalem, Aug. 30, 1995.
26 The New Middle East, p. 82.
27 Remarks to Fourth Business Forum Conference, Jerusalem, Feb. 28, 1994.
28 The Wall Street Journal, Sept. 30, 1994.
29 The Jerusalem Post International Edition, July 16, 1994.
30 Battling for Peace, p. 25.
So Shimon Peres, when young, used to court his wife by reading to her aloud from Das Kapital. Note to froggies who would a-wooing go: apparently it worked. One would like to know what other texts Peres found particularly useful in his later celebrated womanizing. Possibly Lenin on Renegade Kautsky? Or excerpts from Stalin’s “Short Course”?
Physically, Shimon Peres reminds one of Chico Marx. Mentally Peres reminds one of the Fool of Chelm. And for too long, in Israel, over the past 30 years when he started to undo what he had done, Shimon Peres has been near — or even at — the helm.
[Posted by Hugh at May 12, 2008]Â
Posted by: HughÂ Â atÂ December 30, 2008 9:30 AM
“If there is a ceasefire, that will allow Hamas to regain strength, recover from the shock and prepare an even stronger attack against Israel,” he said.
Israeli Arab Knesset members: a “fifth column for the Hamas”
Ahmad Tibi: What’s his nationality?
If one believes that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is a struggle over land, such that once the just-right negotiated settlement is found, peace will dawn, and if one thinks that poverty causes terrorism and that democracy cures it, one will find this story profoundly shocking. For it directly contradicts those core assumptions and others that currently prevail in official Washington and in the mainstream media — not that it will get anyone who holds those views to question them.
But consider: these Israeli Arab Knesset members are not suffering refugees. They have political access and power. They are not poor, they are not voiceless. Yet they still align with the forces of jihadÂ against those of the state they live in and represent in government. Thus Lieberman is quite right: they’re a fifth column. And when one understands the Islamic doctrine of jihad as taught by all its sects and schools, and the supra-national character of the IslamicÂ umma, the casual treason of these MK’s becomes crystal clear.
But few, very few, wish to understand those things.
“MKs trade volleys over Gaza op,” by Gil Hoffman for theÂ Jerusalem Post, December 29 (thanks to James):
Some 200 kilometers away from the Gaza Strip, the Knesset became a battleground on Monday between Jewish MKs, who unanimously supported the IDF operation there, andÂ Arab MKs, who united against it.The Knesset endorsed the assault after Arab MKs failed to pass a proposal calling for an immediate cease-fire. Balad MKs boycotted the session whileÂ other Arab MKs took turns heckling Defense Minister Ehud Barak, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and opposition leader Binyamin Netanyahu.
United Arab List MK Taleb A-Sanaa was removed from the plenum when he responded to Barak’s claim that 300 terrorists had been killed since the fighting began by shouting, “Tell the Knesset how many of them were women and children.”
“The panicking in Sderot was unfortunate, but who said the reaction had to be rivers of blood in Gaza?” Ta’al MK Ahmed Tibi said in his speech from the Knesset podium. “I am against harming any citizen.Â But I admit that when Arabs – people of my nationality – are harmed, it hurts me more.”Â Tibi accused the Jewish politicians who spoke before him of “counting bodies while they count mandates.”
If Tibi is an “Arab” as opposed to being an “Israeli,” what is he doing with a seat in Israel’s parliamentary assembly? Did anyone stand up and say, “Wait a minute. Your nationality is Israeli”? Apparently not — everyone takes this cognitive dissonance for granted.
Hadash MK Muhammad Barakei added that he was in his one and only homeland, while the Jewish MKs had other homelands to return to.
This is historical fantasy right out of Pallywood.
Israel Beiteinu leader Avigdor Lieberman called the Arab MKs traitors and a “fifth column for the Hamas.”Netanyahu called on all citizens of Israel, Arab and Jewish, to “remain loyal to the state of Israel during this just war against our enemy.”
“We stand united in this war,” Netanyahu said. “Not every citizen must automatically support every move the government makes, but it is unacceptable for Israeli citizens to support our enemies.”
Indeed it is, and why is it happening? That is the question no one dares answer.