Israeli Arab conflict: its all about land, right?

Saudi Sheikhs Reject Any Muslim-Arab Peace Initiative, Say Freeing Palestine Of Jews’ Defilement Is Religious Obligation

MEMRI

Dozens of Saudi sheikhs have signed a communiqué banning any peace initiative between Muslims and Jews, recognizing the Jewish right to the land of Palestine, or normalizing relations with them.

The communiqué also stated that freeing the land of Palestine of the defilement by the Jews is a religious obligation incumbent upon the entire Islamic ummah.

* But ‘hudna’ is okay, if necessary:

However, the communiqué permits signing a ceasefire or a calm with the Jewish enemy, provided that it is temporary and that it permits the jihadist resistance factions to build their capabilities in order to prepare for jihad with the Jewish enemy.

*  Having trouble finding Israel on the map? That’s because Israel is only one sixth of one percent of the land occupied by Arab Muslims in the ME…

Source: Almoslim.net, January 20, 2009

* At Arab Gathering on Development, the Talk Is All About Gaza

The plan for the Arab League’s 22 members was to focus on ways to improve the lives of their 330 million citizens. Instead, they bickered over how to handle the Gaza crisis.

* Stuck in time, stuck on stoopid and on Israel: Whingeing, whining Arabs…

KUWAIT — Two and a half years ago, a group of Arab leaders decided it was time to try to set aside their political differences and deal with what was ailing their countries: widespread illiteracy, ineffective schools, unemployment, inadequate water and food resources.

So they called for an extraordinary summit meeting to be held in Kuwait City this week. The plan was for the 22 members of the Arab League to agree on concrete ways to improve the lives of their 330 million citizens. Instead, they bickered over how to handle the Gaza crisis.

At nearly every turn, the Palestinian-Israeli conflict remains an obstacle to development in the Middle East. It inflames public emotions, serves as a convenient distraction for leaders unable or unwilling to reform their nations and is a tool in the hands of those seeking to promote their own regional standing, often at the expense of the Palestinians.

“The Arab-Israeli conflict reinforces the puritanical, radical, traditional and also the authoritarian because everyone holds onto what they have and there is no third way,” said Shafeeq Ghabra, a political science professor at Kuwait University. “Basically, this is a region stuck in time, stuck in space and in history and in conflict.”

When the presidents, kings and emirs arrived in Kuwait, they were scheduled to discuss regional cooperation to improve education, ease trade and travel barriers, improve food security and lift their citizens out of poverty. But they were barely talking to one another because of differences over how to deal with Israel’s offensive in Gaza.

“Yes, military occupation is a serious matter that needs to be addressed,” said Amr Moussa, the secretary general of the Arab League. “But backwardness in our societies needs to be taken care of.”

There was a suffocating sense of despair hanging over the Kuwait meeting as the Gaza crisis eclipsed every other issue.

“The Arab ship is sinking,” Mr. Moussa said on the first day of the conference.

The Arab world has been in the same self-defeating fight for decades. In 1975 the Arab League took out an advertisement in The New York Times to celebrate its 30th anniversary. The headline said, “Political, economic and social unity in action.” The text said solving the Palestinian crisis was the group’s “first priority.”

But that headline was as much an illusion then as the headlines declaring that Arab leaders had reconciled their differences after the first day of the conference. The flash point has not always been Israel. But the victim has always been a unified effort to improve regional economic and social development.

Arab leaders certainly have the ability to improve conditions at home, even amid the feuding. In that way, the Palestinian cause can become a useful distraction for authoritarian rulers reluctant to make changes that risk instability, or that might strengthen regional competitors.

The need for regional cooperation rests on data. Prime Minister Fouad Siniora of Lebanon said that the Arab states would need to create 50 million jobs in the next 20 years simply to keep unemployment at current levels. He said Arab universities were collapsing and scientific research was almost nonexistent.

By many measures, the Arab world is slipping further and further behind in its ability to compete globally. Perhaps the single greatest drag on the region, one that afflicts wealthy Persian Gulf states as well as poorer countries like Egypt, is the quality of schools. International trends in math and science among fourth- and eighth-grade students show that in math, for example, among fourth- graders, the bottom four nations out of 36 were Tunisia, Kuwait, Qatar and Yemen. In science, eighth-grade students in Qatar placed second to last.

Since the 1940s, Arab leaders have been promising the creation of an economic union along the lines of what the Europeans have achieved. They have repeatedly said that Arabs should invest in and trade with Arabs first.

They were still talking about that this week.

In Kuwait, there were complaints that the region had failed to coordinate its electric grids, transportation systems and customs regulations. But the Palestinian issue so consumed the meeting they barely had the chance to discuss such matters.

“We have to be aware as Arabs that the absence of an Arab solution to the Palestinian issue also means the absence of continuous progress, major development, sustainable growth and agreement within our Arab world,” Mr. Siniora said at a conference in Kuwait before the summit meeting.

While no one was arguing that the Arab states should stop fighting for a Palestinian homeland, the summit meeting’s participants virtually begged leaders to separate political differences from common economic needs. Many speakers at the conference had said that economic, social and human development could only help bolster the region’s position in its confrontation with Israel. But no one actually offered a compromise on how to overcome those differences.

The sense of urgency in addressing the developmental issues has been compounded by the economic crisis. At the opening of the summit meeting, officials said that Arab countries had so far lost about $2.5 trillion, and that 60 percent of the development projects in the oil-rich gulf had been postponed or canceled.

There is no one who would argue that resolving the Palestinian issue would suddenly produce a united Arab world. But the issue continues to play havoc with agendas and expose hypocrisies.

“We have written many times, ‘If Hezbollah loves the Palestinians so much they want to fight Israel, why can’t they fight to give the Palestinians human rights in Lebanon?’ ” said Mohammad al-Rumaihi, a newspaper editor in Kuwait. But pressure over the issue is relentless.

“The masses,” he said, “their hearts are with the Palestinians.” 

* Hmm, the “hearts of the masses” is not something I would bet my money on. Neither do I have a cent to spare for the “Palistanians”… The Arabs have to resettle them, case closed!

26 thoughts on “Israeli Arab conflict: its all about land, right?”

  1. * Freeing Palestine Of Jews’ Defilement Is Religious Obligation

    That is what inch allah would have them believe. the reality is somewhat different …

    “And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying them, that they may cleanse the land.”
    Ezekiel 39:12

  2. Unfortunately there are still many (too many) Jews who believe that peace can somehow be bought with ‘giving back land’- and yet the Arabs tell us everyday that its about the annihilation of the Joozzzz and ALL the land, and that goes not only for Israel…

  3. But will the stupid Western Governments and MSM take any notice of this clear declaration or will they put their fingers in their ears and pretend they did not hear. I know what I think.

  4. The intransigence of Islam will eventually cause Mecca and Medina to grow Mushroom Clouds and become Radioactive Ashtrays.
    It will cause Mullahs to be hunted down, for Peace to eventually develope here on Earth.

    SeaMystic.

  5. Its about the land, but only because there is Jews living on it. Prior to WW2, before the Jewish migration…”Palestine” was a empty desert with a few towns dotted about, Jerusalem wasn’t even that big of a city. As soon as the Jews began to reclaim the desert & build decent infrastructure, all the sudden millions of lazy ass Muslim Arabs wanted to claim their Dar Al Islam again…because the Jews made the region worth something again.

    Islam is the parasite religion.

  6. They want to kill all the Jews. But really they are making the rest of the world hate Islam, and all it’s evil completely destroyed.

  7. Too true revparadigm, like dysfunctional children they want their broken toy that the smart kid fixed. What a useless bunch of sad sacks, the lot of them.

  8. Greetings to all. The reasons for Arab-Israeli conflict is the occupation of Palestine.
    Palestine Arab Islamic state like the rest of the Arab and Islamic states surrounding
    Them. Means that there are Jews and Zionists in Palestine a big mistake, because this entity
    Zionist is not consistent with the surrounding area (such as language, customs, traditions and religion)
    The only solution to end the Arab-Israeli conflict is the expulsion of Jews from Palestine
    All of Palestine. The Jewish people will not rest and will not feel comfortable and stability
    But if it gets out of Palestine and the Middle East completely. If people continue to
    Jews in Palestine and the Middle East, the death and destruction will continue.
    Palestine Arab Islamic state and will remain

  9. * The only solution to end the Arab-Israeli conflict is the expulsion of Jews from Palestine

    There is another solution, which is for the Biblical God of Israel to gather the largely islamic nations, including Iran, Ethiopia, Libya, against Israel and to destroy them, leaving the Jews to locate and bury the bodies and body parts of the dead and smelly invaders, in order to cleanse the Holy Land.

    This is the solution that God will implement, and there is nothing that allah, you, the OIC, the UN or 1.x billion muslims can do about it.

    You can read about it in Ezekiel 38 and 39 of the Holy Bible, or watch it on Youtube here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoVjIoigDLM

    Warn your fellow muslims – judgement is coming. Flee from islam.
    Run for your life!

  10. Arab-muslim,
    Firstly your greetings are insincere – so dont insult people by using this greeting. In our culture we mean what we say, and we find your insincere greetings laughably insulting. The reason the Arab-Israeli conflict continues is because of you Arabs. The Palestinians are the meat in the sandwich, and their worst enemies are the arab states. It is precisely because of the efforts of Arab countries in the region that there has been no peace. The Palestinians are second class citizens in nearly all Arab countries. In fact the first refugee camps in the Lebanon were constructed because arab nations told the Palestinians to leave while they destroyed the Jewish settlers soon after the state of Israel was formed. They failed, as they have failed several times since, and the real victims are both the Palestinians and the Israels who have to waste energy in surviving because of hostile Arab intent. Actually, arab behavior has been particularly bad in this region for a long time now Given that the Jewish people were in the region before you idiot muslims, it is rather curious that you still claim sole right to these lands. You cannot – because your claim is neither valid not true. You can claim a right to live there in peace with the region’s other inhabitants, but YOU are now responsible for much of the death and destruction and most of the blood that flows is on the hands of you arab muslims. Israel will NOT be destroyed and it is amazing that your selfish pride and idiotic religious dogma have prevented you from working together and learning from Israel. Together you might have achieved even greater things, but you will now simply fester in your own hate and the world WILL pass you by. You are irrelevant – you are not needed – you are not wanted – and you are nothing. At the present time you have nothing of value to offer humankind. Try and grow and make something of yourself, instead of becoming a hate-filled muslim idiot. And try to learn to think for yourself!

  11. I remember reading a great article , probably on his site ,about the history of the area…..Not too long ago , the so called ”palestinians ”could all remember where their great grand parents came from..from Syria , from Jordan etc so there is no such thing as ”palestinians.”..these people only moved to the area after the Jews settled and created jobs..Maybe Sheik could post this article again.

  12. Jordan was suppose to be the palestinian state, but the arabs changed
    plans,and even if they would have wiped out the jews there would not have been a palestinian state either.
    all arab countries combined have 650 more land than israel and can’t
    find any solution for the palestinian problem
    (except for putting them in concentration camps).
    truth is; it is not about the palestinians or the jews, the arabs want to
    control the land in order to wipe out all traces of judaism and
    christianity and they would not let the palestinians control over it.

  13. Arab-muslim,
    Firstly your greetings are insincere – so dont insult people by using this greeting. In our culture we mean what we say, and we find your insincere greetings laughably insulting. The reason the Arab-Israeli conflict continues is because of you Arabs. The Palestinians are the meat in the sandwich, and their worst enemies are the arab states. It is precisely because of the efforts of Arab countries in the region that there has been no peace. The Palestinians are second class citizens in nearly all Arab countries. In fact the first refugee camps in the Lebanon were constructed because arab nations told the Palestinians to leave while they destroyed the Jewish settlers soon after the state of Israel was formed. They failed, as they have failed several times since, and the real victims are both the Palestinians and the Israels who have to waste energy in surviving because of hostile Arab intent. Actually, arab behavior has been particularly bad in this region for a long time now Given that the Jewish people were in the region before you idiot muslims, it is rather curious that you still claim sole right to these lands. You cannot – because your claim is neither valid not true. You can claim a right to live there in peace with the region’s other inhabitants, but YOU are now responsible for much of the death and destruction and most of the blood that flows is on the hands of you arab muslims. Israel will NOT be destroyed and it is amazing that your selfish pride and idiotic religious dogma have prevented you from working together and learning from Israel. Together you might have achieved even greater things, but you will now simply fester in your own hate and the world WILL pass you by. You are irrelevant – you are not needed – you are not wanted – and you are nothing. At the present time you have nothing of value to offer humankind. Try and grow and make something of yourself, instead of becoming a hate-filled muslim idiot. And try to learn to think for yourself!

  14. The existence of the Zionist entity in the heart of the Arab-Muslim is in itself a strange
    Because the Zionist entity is not shared with the Arab world, anything that characteristics such as religion, customs
    Traditions and language. The existence of Israel within the Arab world is a big mistake, and constant tension
    In the Middle East also note since 1948. Such as the entry of foreign objects inside the human body begins
    Body fever, tension and fatigue and to ensure even go out foreign objects.
    To all Arab and Islamic countries to form the Ministry of Defence and one common to all States and the expulsion of the Jews
    From the Middle East. This is the best choice for Arabs and Jews in that one because he Bjrdasiraiil within the Arab world
    Will feel the Arab world would not be true of the world would not be true of the Jewish people will never feel the stability and comfort, but if
    Came out of Palestine, all Palestine greetings to all

  15. The reasons for Arab-Israeli conflict is the occupation of Palestine in 1948.
    Palestine Arab Islamic state like the rest of the Arab and Islamic states surrounding
    Them. Means that there are Jews and Zionists in Palestine a big mistake, because this entity
    Zionist is not consistent with the surrounding area (such as language, customs, traditions and religion)
    The only solution to end the Arab-Israeli conflict is the expulsion of Jews from Palestine
    All of Palestine. The Jewish people will not rest and will not feel comfortable and stability
    But if it gets out of Palestine and the Middle East completely. If people continue to
    Jews in Palestine and the Middle East, the death and destruction will continue.
    Palestine Arab Islamic state and will remain

  16. * The only solution to end the Arab-Israeli conflict is the expulsion of Jews from Palestine

    What gives you the idea that there is only one solution? Another solution is for God (not allah) to drag the muslim nations against Israel and destroy them and their weapons, leaving the Jews to clean up the bodies, body parts and weapons, in order to cleanse the Holy Land.

    You can read about God’s solution in Ezekiel 38 and 39 (along with other relevant Scriptures).

    Or, you can wait until some muslim nutter tries to get allah to bring it on:

    http://continentalnews.net/christian-news/ahmadinejad-asks-allah-to-hasten-coming-of-the-twelfth-imam-and-bring-islamic-%E2%80%9Cvictory%E2%80%9D-how-should-we-respond-2841.html

    [Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made yet another inflammatory speech to the U.N. General Assembly on Thursday (September 23, 2010). He began by praying, “O God, hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi and grant him good health and victory and make us his followers and those who attest to his righteousness.”]

    [Rosenberg went on to say, “The speech went downhill from there. Ahmadinejad accused the U.S. government of masterminding the 9/11 attacks in order to save Israel. Few in the West, including our leaders, understand what Ahmadinejad and his colleagues in the Iranian government believe. And that’s the problem. Unless the leaders and the people of the world wake up, war is coming. The leaders of Iran, including the Ayatollah Khamenei, believe it is their job to hasten the the apocalypse and the end of the world. ]

    And so on. They are champing at the bit to have a crack at destroying Israel – but it is they and their armies and weapons that will be deleted from God’s Holy Land of Israel.

  17. There is no democracy in Israel as a state is illegitimate and illegal and not recognized
    Evidence of this if anyone wanted to write a comment in the Israeli websites
    Does not allow him or be there are many obstacles to prevent him from writing a comment The reasons for Arab-Israeli conflict is the occupation of Palestine in 1948.
    Palestine Arab Islamic state like the rest of the Arab and Islamic states surrounding
    Them. Means that there are Jews and Zionists in Palestine a big mistake, because this entity
    Zionist is not consistent with the surrounding area (such as language, customs, traditions and religion)
    The only solution to end the Arab-Israeli conflict is the expulsion of Jews from Palestine
    All of Palestine. The Jewish people will not rest and will not feel comfortable and stability
    But if it gets out of Palestine and the Middle East completely. If people continue to
    Jews in Palestine and the Middle East, the death and destruction will continue.
    Palestine Arab Islamic state and will remain

  18. And ARAB, would it logically follow that muslims are incompatible with Western states, and that the solution is to expel them back to islamic hellholes?

    * The only solution to end the Arab-Israeli conflict is the expulsion of Jews from Palestine

    There is another solution, which is for God to gather the hostile nations around about Israel into an invasion of the Holy Land, and to destroy them, leaving the Jews to do the house-keeping.

    The timing is for God alone to choose, but he has stated that it will happen, and so it will.

    Think about God’s solution (Ezekiel 38 / 39), and warn your fellow arabs that time is running out – judgment is coming.

    http://bible.cc/ezekiel/38-1.htm

  19. This is the Zionist terrorism
    There is no state called Israel. State of thieves called Israel a basis of the displacement and killing of Innocent nation of thieves basis bloodshed and war And the arrest of people for tens of years to prevent him from claiming The right to life . basis steal the land of the Palestinian people And then steal the land of the Arab-Muslim the entire .State of the thieves do not know the law ….. Does not recognize the law of the United Nations, a state that considers itself above the law . the law is the siege of Gaza And the bloodshed and destruction of houses and killing innocent people and occupying the country This is a country named Israel thieves.This is the Zionist terrorism

  20. * There is no state called Israel.

    Perhaps God wasn’t aware of that, when He made the following statement through the prophet Ezekiel:

    [After many days you shall be visited: in the latter years you shall come into the land that is brought back from the sword, that is gathered out of many peoples, on the mountains of Israel, which have been a continual waste; but it is brought forth out of the peoples, and they shall dwell securely, all of them.]

    This is the end of islam and its followers:

    http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/13371776

    When the development application is lodged for site preparation and construction of the Third Temple on the Temple Mount, you will know that it is over for allah, islam … and muslims, if you are still here.

  21. “the jewish people will not rest and will not feel comfortable and
    stability”
    No one will feel that there…until after the battles following
    Harmageddon and the installation of the Millennium.

  22. This is the Zionist terrorism
    There is no state called Israel. State of thieves called Israel a basis of the displacement and killing of Innocent nation of thieves basis bloodshed and war And the arrest of people for tens of years to prevent him from claiming The right to life . basis steal the land of the Palestinian people And then steal the land of the Arab-Muslim the entire .State of the thieves do not know the law ….. Does not recognize the law of the United Nations, a state that considers itself above the law . the law is the siege of Gaza And the bloodshed and destruction of houses and killing innocent people and occupying the country This is a country named Israel thieves.This is the Zionist terrorism

  23. proper English, which aarab clearly does no understand requires the use of “an”. It is amusing to see how stupid these arab muslims are!!!!

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