With thanks to Pamela:

This is the whole war in a nutshell — and we are losing that war, as evidenced in the headline of the article. The jihadi’s claim  is accurate – he is following his religious teachings; perhaps it is offensive to prosecute him for it. That’s how far we are down the rabbit hole we are digging.

‘Where do you draw the line’ The National Post    

Quebec man accused of terror activities was expressing religious freedom: defence

                     Courtroom sketches of suspected terrorist Said Namouh. The Quebec man is accused of preparing and distributing jihadist propaganda.


Mike McLaughlin/Canwest News ServiceCourtroom sketches of suspected terrorist Said Namouh. The Quebec man is accused of preparing and distributing jihadist propaganda.

MONTREAL — The videos found on Said Namouh’s computer when police raided his Quebec apartment in 2007 are brutal: point-blank executions of Westerners, suicide bombings, a charred soldier’s body dragged through the street in celebration. Others offered tips on bomb-making or threatened Western governments over the presence of troops in Afghanistan.

Over the past three weeks, a Quebec court has heard that Mr. Namouh worked tirelessly to ensure these images were widely available on the Internet to the global jihadi community, in some cases doing the editing and adding subtitles himself. Mr. Namouh’s work showed that he had “devoted his life to spreading the ideology of al-Qaeda and encouraging others to join the jihadist movement,” said Rita Katz, a Crown expert at the terrorism trial. What Quebec Court Judge Claude Leblond will have to establish is whether those actions contravened Canada’s Criminal Code.

* The National Post sings the praises of Al Jizz

His defence lawyer, René Duval, is not contesting that Mr. Namouh was the user named Ashraf, who was so active on online jihadi forums that he earned praise for his “good work in the service of the [Global Islamic Media] Front, jihad and the mujahedeen.” But Mr. Duval argues that what his client did, while perhaps repugnant to some, was simply an exercise of his freedoms of expression and religion. “Where do you draw the line?” he asked outside the court.

Evidence before the court shows that Mr. Namouh was driven by a fervent faith, one that saw as enemies Christians, Jews and even Muslims who did not share a desire for the creation of pan-Islamic rule.

“I write to you my loved ones with tears falling from the intensity of my love to our mujahedeen protectors, and in hatred of the Crusaders and Shi’a and apostates,” Mr. Namouh wrote in 2006 on a password-protected, invitation-only online message board known as Khidemat.

From the time Mr. Namouh joined the Khidemat forum in November, 2006, to his arrest in September, 2007, he had become the second-most active participant, Ms. Katz, head of the SITE Intelligence group, a U.S. company that monitors online terrorist activity, testified. The forum appears to have been used exclusively by members of the Global Islamic Media Front, a jihadist propaganda wing. Ms. Katz, appearing as an expert witness for the Crown, testified that Mr. Namouh was part of the front’s “uploading and downloading brigade,” establishing Internet links so that people around the world could watch propaganda videos on their computers or cellphones.

She said evidence recovered from his computer hard drive showed that he was responsible for creating links to publicize a March, 2007, video warning the governments of Germany and Austria that they would suffer terrorist attacks if their troops were not withdrawn from Afghanistan. He provided art for a May, 2007, communiqué by the Army of Islam, claiming responsibility for the kidnapping in Gaza of BBC reporter Alan Johnston and demanding the release of prisoners, Ms. Katz said. He also made available propaganda videos with such titles as Jihad Academy and Top Ten, glorifying insurgent attacks in Iraq and Afghanistan. In May, 2007, he announced on the forum that he had created his own compilation video of attacks in Iraq, a 50-minute film known as Final 1000.

“I worked for more than 50 hours in creating the publication, in which I slept only 5 hours,” he wrote on Khidemat. He apologized for the quality of the production, saying he lacked experience in editing and was limited because his computer was not very powerful.

The court has also heard that in August, 2007, Mr. Namouh’s Internet chats were intercepted, revealing what police believe were plans to explode a truck bomb at an undisclosed location outside Canada.

“I have the information and experience for acquisition of explosives in a country and the way to have them easily,” he said on Aug. 8. Later he was overheard discussing plans to travel to North Africa and saying, “Terrorism is in our blood, and with it we will drown the unjust.”

Mr. Namouh faces charges of conspiracy, participating in the activities of a terrorist group, facilitating terrorist activity and extortion.

Mr. Duval said the trial is a crucial test of Canadian anti-terrorism law. “I question whether the fact of providing [Internet] links, especially when one is motivated by religious belief, is a violation of the Criminal Code,” he said in an interview. He said that even though the beliefs of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden are “repugnant to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, still, are they not religious beliefs? A lot turns on that.”

Ms. Katz maintains that Internet jihadi propaganda is not just a matter of expressing one’s beliefs but an active effort to “indoctrinate, recruit and train followers.” In a report submitted to the court, another Crown expert, Reuven Paz, stated that the Global Islamic Media Front is at the forefront of these activities.

Its “independent media efforts amplify the extent and effect of terrorist propaganda by repackaging it into more sophisticated productions and disseminating them to the spectrum of jihadi forums,” he wrote.

The trial continues next week.

National Post

Sheik comments:

A very interesting legal subject: “Where do you draw the line?”

Well, for starters the “Muslim community” usually denies that Islamic terrorist activities have anything to do with Islam. “Islam is a “Religion of Peace'” we are told, and our intellectually lazy judiciary doesn’t bother to read the Koran or the sunnah, because “all religions are bad”, that “men of faith” can’t be all bad or  because they have the perception that no religion teaches terror against your fellow man. But we haven’t had a case yet where a lawyer comes out defending a jihadist’s religious freedom, which is to wage jihad on unbelievers. I would see that as a big step forward:

“man accused of terror activities was expressing religious freedom”

Don’t Muslims always “express their religious freedom” when they wage jihad, fly jets into buildings, engage in polygamy, child-marriage, honor killings, attacks on infidels, FGM, terror, slavery etc?

This is a test case that should be used by the best lawyers in the land to make the case against the further spread of Islam, to stop immigration, mosque-building and proselytizing.

But hey, I forgot to mention that the best lawyers are already in the Arab-Muslim pocket. Needless to mention that many, if not most of them, are Jewish. Its ironic that Islam mandates genocide on the Jews.

Quite a dilemma!


  1. So hang on a minute, using the truth as a defence, ie: he engaged in jihad because he is a muslim must almost certainly null and void the liberal argument that terrorism has nothing to do with islam.

    It’s either one or the other, so stop moving the goalposts and let us get rid of those who would wish to do us harm, before it is WAY too late!

  2. Davey Crockett beat me to it, but islam is a shape-shifting religion – it is never anything
    to do with islam, but it is mandated by the koran & sayings of the false prophet, all at the
    same time.

  3. Poor guy is just misunderstanding his “religion”, that’s all. He just needs a little correction (flogging ,anyone?) and then he’ll understand it all.

    So say the apologists.

  4. I’d just love to know whether Mr Lawyer Duval would be prepared to defend, on the same grounds, someone who was a. a Satanist engaged in making specific plans to carry out ritual child sacrifices (and plotting to kidnap Canadian children for said sacrifices) b. an admirer of the Aztec human sacrifice system, actively plotting to carry out replicas of the Aztec ripping-out-the-heart rites, again, with Canadians as the intended victims or c. proposing to revive the cult of the Thuggees, or d. proposing that Hindu widows should be compelled to perform Sati. Of course, there were also the formerly cannibal tribes of the South Pacific…since killing people and taking their heads was an important part of their pre-Christian religio-cultural practices, perhaps Mr Duval thinks that anyone who out of respect for the ancestors set out to revive these practices should not be censured or punished?

    Someone should confront him with a series of questions of that sort.

  5. * Quebec man accused of terror activities was expressing religious freedom: defence

    But any Dutch politician making a film based on this “religious freedom”, or Victorian
    preachers drawing attention to it, or journalists writing articles or books about it …
    … are committing “hate crimes” and “vilifying” muslims, and are liable to prosecution.

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