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		<title>By: Imam Gulen: His War On America’s Children&#8211; Bill Turner, USADL &#171; DEXTER AMERICUS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imam Gulen: His War On America’s Children&#8211; Bill Turner, USADL &#171; DEXTER AMERICUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 22:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] does Imam Gulen say when he believes the west is not watching? In 1999 the Imam said, “You must move in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: charles brough</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles brough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are sincere in wanting a secular Islam.  There is a problem, however, in achieving it.  Their understanding of the term is different than ours (and both are a bit confused!).  

The Western secular belief system or Secular Humanism is a combination of political and economic ideals associated with the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. It is commonly associated with science and technology but only because we have had a century and a half-long struggled to seemingly connect them. There is no connection, however. Those ideals cannot be supported by science. For example, if &quot;democracy&quot; is superior to all other forms of government, why is it that no one can define precisely what it is and distinguish it from a republic and simply the parlamentary system? Also, &quot;In unity there is strength&quot; has had to be replaced with &quot;praise diversity,&quot; but we need to praise it only in order to limit the damage to unity that it causes. In other words, we are good at rationalizing. All ideologies rationalize, including the secular one.

Gulenic Islam can adopt secular political and economic ideals even though they are not in the Koran, but it cannot adopt the kind of science Islam needs in order to catch up with, much less surpass, the West without rationalizing a consistency between science and the legands in the Koran.  Science must reject whatever cannot be shown or duplicated, and it is not possible and not consistent with science that Mohammed flew to Heaven to confer with &quot;gods,&quot; or that Christ will return or even that the Kaaba is &quot;sacred.&quot;  There are no sacred books or spiritual beings in science, and technology can only be based on science.

For Gulenism to adopt science, it will have to turn Islam into a divided and liberalized faith such as we in the West with the Methodist, Prespateran, Lutheren, and Unitarian churches. Its science and technology will suffer just to the point it cannot (or refuses to) manage that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are sincere in wanting a secular Islam.  There is a problem, however, in achieving it.  Their understanding of the term is different than ours (and both are a bit confused!).  </p>
<p>The Western secular belief system or Secular Humanism is a combination of political and economic ideals associated with the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. It is commonly associated with science and technology but only because we have had a century and a half-long struggled to seemingly connect them. There is no connection, however. Those ideals cannot be supported by science. For example, if &#8220;democracy&#8221; is superior to all other forms of government, why is it that no one can define precisely what it is and distinguish it from a republic and simply the parlamentary system? Also, &#8220;In unity there is strength&#8221; has had to be replaced with &#8220;praise diversity,&#8221; but we need to praise it only in order to limit the damage to unity that it causes. In other words, we are good at rationalizing. All ideologies rationalize, including the secular one.</p>
<p>Gulenic Islam can adopt secular political and economic ideals even though they are not in the Koran, but it cannot adopt the kind of science Islam needs in order to catch up with, much less surpass, the West without rationalizing a consistency between science and the legands in the Koran.  Science must reject whatever cannot be shown or duplicated, and it is not possible and not consistent with science that Mohammed flew to Heaven to confer with &#8220;gods,&#8221; or that Christ will return or even that the Kaaba is &#8220;sacred.&#8221;  There are no sacred books or spiritual beings in science, and technology can only be based on science.</p>
<p>For Gulenism to adopt science, it will have to turn Islam into a divided and liberalized faith such as we in the West with the Methodist, Prespateran, Lutheren, and Unitarian churches. Its science and technology will suffer just to the point it cannot (or refuses to) manage that.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 14:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gulen movement looks to be as accountable and transparent as FIFA, that secular clique of bloated plutocrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gulen movement looks to be as accountable and transparent as FIFA, that secular clique of bloated plutocrats.</p>
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		<title>By: eib</title>
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		<dc:creator>eib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather support the efforts of Falun Gong.  Their continued existence is proof that no ideology is stronger than the force of indigenous culture and history.
Meet the West, Islam.
THIS IS YOUR VIETNAM.
You will lose every ounce of confidence in your demon Allah you ever had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather support the efforts of Falun Gong.  Their continued existence is proof that no ideology is stronger than the force of indigenous culture and history.<br />
Meet the West, Islam.<br />
THIS IS YOUR VIETNAM.<br />
You will lose every ounce of confidence in your demon Allah you ever had.</p>
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		<title>By: sheikyermami</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheikyermami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, Rumi and the peaceful Sufis! 

They really know how to wrap the poison up to make gullible, naive kafirs eat it. But lets a closer look, lets smell it:

Here is Al-Ghazali, evidently with no intention of departing either from Sufism or Muslim orthodoxy, writing about jihad war and the treatment of the vanquished non-Muslim dhimmi peoples:

[O]ne must go on jihad (i.e., warlike razzias or raids) at least once a year...one may use a catapult against them [non-Muslims] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set fire to them and/or drown them...If a person of the Ahl al-Kitab [People of The Book - primarily Jews and Christians] is enslaved, his marriage is [automatically] revoked...One may cut down their trees...One must destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever they decide...they may steal as much food as they need...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/02/bostom-sufism-without-camouflage-beyond-stephen-schwartz.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;As usual, read the whole text, there&#039;s always more.....&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, Rumi and the peaceful Sufis! </p>
<p>They really know how to wrap the poison up to make gullible, naive kafirs eat it. But lets a closer look, lets smell it:</p>
<p>Here is Al-Ghazali, evidently with no intention of departing either from Sufism or Muslim orthodoxy, writing about jihad war and the treatment of the vanquished non-Muslim dhimmi peoples:</p>
<p>[O]ne must go on jihad (i.e., warlike razzias or raids) at least once a year&#8230;one may use a catapult against them [non-Muslims] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set fire to them and/or drown them&#8230;If a person of the Ahl al-Kitab [People of The Book - primarily Jews and Christians] is enslaved, his marriage is [automatically] revoked&#8230;One may cut down their trees&#8230;One must destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever they decide&#8230;they may steal as much food as they need&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/02/bostom-sufism-without-camouflage-beyond-stephen-schwartz.html" rel="nofollow">As usual, read the whole text, there&#8217;s always more&#8230;..</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mullah Lodabullah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mullah Lodabullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 11:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* Fethullah Gulen is the honorary president of the Rumi Forum.

http://www.rumiforum.org/

[The principal goal of the Rumi Forum is to promote peace in the world and contribute to a peaceful coexistence of the adherents of different faiths, cultures, ethnicities and races. For that to be achieved, we believe that everyone must be respectful to the environment and to all creatures’ right to exist, believe in the sanctity of human rights and democracy and use all means at hand to make this coexistence possible.]

There&#039;s a surprise - &quot;peaceful coexistence&quot; (a New Age of harmony?)

People will get their age of &quot;peaceful coexistence&quot; (on allah&#039;s terms?),
followed by sudden destruction, on God&#039;s terms:

While they are saying &quot;Peace and safety!&quot; then in a moment destruction falls upon them, like birth-pains on a woman who is with child; and escape there is none. (1 Thessalonians 5:3)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Fethullah Gulen is the honorary president of the Rumi Forum.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rumiforum.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rumiforum.org/</a></p>
<p>[The principal goal of the Rumi Forum is to promote peace in the world and contribute to a peaceful coexistence of the adherents of different faiths, cultures, ethnicities and races. For that to be achieved, we believe that everyone must be respectful to the environment and to all creatures’ right to exist, believe in the sanctity of human rights and democracy and use all means at hand to make this coexistence possible.]</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a surprise &#8211; &#8220;peaceful coexistence&#8221; (a New Age of harmony?)</p>
<p>People will get their age of &#8220;peaceful coexistence&#8221; (on allah&#8217;s terms?),<br />
followed by sudden destruction, on God&#8217;s terms:</p>
<p>While they are saying &#8220;Peace and safety!&#8221; then in a moment destruction falls upon them, like birth-pains on a woman who is with child; and escape there is none. (1 Thessalonians 5:3)</p>
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		<title>By: Gulen Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gulen Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rumiforum.org/about/fethullah-gulen.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fethullah Gulen&lt;/a&gt; is the honorary president of the Rumi Forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.rumiforum.org/about/fethullah-gulen.html" rel="nofollow">Fethullah Gulen</a> is the honorary president of the Rumi Forum.</p>
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		<title>By: emir</title>
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		<dc:creator>emir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 07:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh the first pics are of fethullah gulen. he looks like Deniro crying in the movie Analyze That. Fake Tears</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh the first pics are of fethullah gulen. he looks like Deniro crying in the movie Analyze That. Fake Tears</p>
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		<title>By: emir</title>
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		<dc:creator>emir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This writer has it all wrong. Fethullah Gulen and its movement is working hand in hand with the Vatican, CIA and Zionism.  There is no stealth or threat for Christians onthe contrary they have adopted late Pope John Pauls Interfaith dialogue strategy.  They are the main weapon of the Vatican to mislead Muslims into Christianity.  

Muslims beware. Some openly accused Gulen of being the 7th Cardinal. he has not denied it.!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This writer has it all wrong. Fethullah Gulen and its movement is working hand in hand with the Vatican, CIA and Zionism.  There is no stealth or threat for Christians onthe contrary they have adopted late Pope John Pauls Interfaith dialogue strategy.  They are the main weapon of the Vatican to mislead Muslims into Christianity.  </p>
<p>Muslims beware. Some openly accused Gulen of being the 7th Cardinal. he has not denied it.!?</p>
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		<title>By: Ludvikus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ludvikus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 01:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is &quot;nazim08&quot;? Also, I&#039;d like to know the etymology of &quot;sheikyermami&quot;? Is it supposed to mean &quot;shake your mammy&quot; (that&#039;s all I could get out of, but I suspect that was your intent? Furthermore, I&#039;d like an update - what&#039;s the latest scoop on Gulen? Finally, do you happen to know is the residency case (&quot;green card&quot;) was a court case, or an administrative (purely Homeland Security) case? Piece - oops, Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is &#8220;nazim08&#8243;? Also, I&#8217;d like to know the etymology of &#8220;sheikyermami&#8221;? Is it supposed to mean &#8220;shake your mammy&#8221; (that&#8217;s all I could get out of, but I suspect that was your intent? Furthermore, I&#8217;d like an update &#8211; what&#8217;s the latest scoop on Gulen? Finally, do you happen to know is the residency case (&#8220;green card&#8221;) was a court case, or an administrative (purely Homeland Security) case? Piece &#8211; oops, Peace!</p>
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