Geert Wilders Plucks Muslim Goose

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From the Gates of Vienna:

Our Flemish correspondent VH reports on the latest scandal from the Netherlands: Geert Wilders called a socialist Muslim politician a “super dumb goose”. The horror!

Here’s the report from De Telegraaf, as translated by VH:

Geert Wilders: “Fatima Elatik is super dumb goose”

Geert Wilders made mincemeat of the Amsterdam PvdA district mayorFatima Elatik [the appointed leader of the Amsterdam district council of Zeeburg, and a fellow party member and fan of the Muslim Brotherhood supporter Ahmed Marcouch[1]], who compared the politics of the PVV member with those of Adolf Hitler. “What a super dumb goose she is,” Wilders replied yesterday.

The Moroccan-Dutch Elatik has worked herself into a lather over the questions in Parliament of the PVV, which wants to know how the Muslim population will develop in the Netherlands over the coming decades. “Just give it a while and they will analyze our DNA to show that we are no good”, Elatik twittered. “I think there was once another politician in Europe, some 60 years ago, who did the same thing to another Semitic people.”

In response, Wilders fought back with: “The demonization by the Labor Party (PvdA) keeps going on. I hope they realize where this may lead.”

Comment posted at The Daily Standard (De Dagelijkse Standaard):

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Well now, there we have the PvdA alderman Fatima Elatik once again making a remarkable statement on Twitter. Where only a while ago she wanted to expel the entire PVV electorate from Amsterdam, today she creates a beautiful dummy so as to become “bon ton” [all okay] in left-wing circles by making a Wilders-Hitler comparison.

Soon she realized that as a politician — and particularly one of a party that is on the verge of collapsing, like the PvdA (Socialists) — she really cannot say such things. But she still quickly adds a clincher to it: “that we sometimes forget that Hitler was also democratically elected”. Who “we” are and what Elatik wants to say with this is not quite clear …

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19 thoughts on “Geert Wilders Plucks Muslim Goose”

  1. I see no thrashing by Wilders, in fact he avoids debate and contact and only appears to make statements and questions and disapears off again as soon as possible.

    The item above is clearly a right-wing statement so it attacks the Labour Party with partisan lines like it is collapsing etc.

    There are two issues though and for those not from Europe and in particular Holland, they simply man not understand.

    The first is that certainly the Europeans made a big mistake in the 70s by letting radicals establish themselves into there countries and creating the solid base for what is now well known as a radical element that dominates the politics of the Muslims there. We now have the situation that the demands of certain radicals are such that they are not even accepted in actual Muslim countries. The UK suffers this probably more than others. They feed the illusion that the solution is what the radical right are preaching and in return, the radical right comes out with similarly unacceptable BS that feed the radical Muslims.

    The second point and this is particulary with The Netherlands – the extreme right wing bigot known as Geert Wilders. Though they may try to portrait him as something else and winning battles – like the BS above, he is a no-show and only thrives of making statements and dissapearing so that he cannot be caught debating. His agenda based BS is clear as blond hair is bright. He will argue that he has nothing against Muslims but that the Qur’an is evil and should be banned. Anyone who knows the smallest thing about Islam (and he does have) knows that of course the two are the same, thus he is saying (without actually saying the words) that Muslims are evil and should be banned.

    It is public record that he recently as an MP visited the State of Israel 14 times, lived there in the past and worked in a kabutts. That is his business, no problem there (I have no anti Israel bigotry like many Muslims do) but it raises the question and the example of his own hipocrisy that needs to be answered.

    How come Wilders considers himself the champion of “Free speech no matter what” when he avoided like the plague to support the debate that was cominating Dutch headlines earlier in the year about Holocaust Denial? If he is not a hypocrit he should have said that it is a right (and thus be condemned by his well established connection and favourite “next best place” to live. Or he could have acknowledged that there are limits to public BS – and thus condemning his own rhetoric. Which one is it Wilders?

    Wilders certainly did not cook or pluck anyone’s goose, he as usual was never there to do so. Many of the political Muslims in Holland are fools, radicals and do not merrit being there – they are as bad as Wilders, I consider them in the same category of trash.

  2. This solkar is a jihadi who thinks his lies will been bought by the general public.

    He and his team of jihadi’s roam the internet and typ their fingers lame to be cry baby’s instead of facing the fact that the days of islam are counted. The islam is hate and submission and any amount of bullshit and essay’s solkar can’t change that.
    That solkar needs so many words to defend this islamic shit is getting boring and only reveals his crazy loony madness.

  3. Stop wasting band space Solkhar – save your energy and criticize the “fallen muslims” instead. And given the apparent and often “misuse” of your religious book perhaps Wilders is correct in requesting that it be banned.

  4. “Wilders will argue that he has nothing against Muslims but that the Qur’an is evil and should be banned. Anyone who knows the smallest thing about Islam (and he does have) knows that of course the two are the same, thus he is saying (without actually saying the words) that Muslims are evil and should be banned.”

    Muslims who follow the Koran become evil. Wilders is absolutely correct in calling for a ban on this hateful, genocidal book and for the deportation of Muslims who follow it.

    “It is public record that he recently as an MP visited the State of Israel 14 times, lived there in the past and worked in a kabutts. That is his business, no problem there (I have no anti Israel bigotry like many Muslims do) but it raises the question and the example of his own hipocrisy that needs to be answered.”

    I am Israeli and Jewish and I never heard of a “kabutts”- (I think I know what you mean, though) if Wilders is a friend of Israel who visited, lived and worked there, why would that be hypocrisy, Solkhar? What does such a dumb statement make you?

    I cannot make any sense out of your holocaust denial statement and I fail to see the connect with Wilders. Holocaust denial is vile Islamic propaganda and why should he swim in the sewers like Muslims do?

    “Wilders certainly did not cook or pluck anyone’s goose, he as usual was never there to do so. ”

    He ripped the dumb bitch a new asshole, literally. What does it mean ‘he was never there to do so’? He did. He is not a primitive Muzz who murders his opponents, or are you saying he should come out of hiding so you can murder him?

    “Many of the political Muslims in Holland are fools, radicals and do not merrit being there –”

    Agreed, Solkhar.

    ” they are as bad as Wilders, I consider them in the same category of trash.”

    Wilders is a very decent man who is rightly concerned about his country. He lives in hiding because of death threats from the religion of peace, vilified by the multiculti-loons, the commie-progressives and the ruling cowards. His party will win the next election.

    Trash, Solkhar? What do you see when you look in the mirror? What do you see when you look at your father and mother and your extended tribe?

  5. If its a Mohammedan Solkhar will defend it if it is exposing the secret underbelly of the CULT to the light so everyone can see just exactly what Islam is he will attack. That is what taqqiya merchants do and is what Islam has had to do for 1400 years to prevent people from knowing what they really are. Unfortunately in this mass communications age it is getting more difficult hence unrelenting Mohammedan attacks on free speech.

  6. Doctor Koolaid,

    Holocaust denial, which I find abhorent, exists amongst many people, not just some Muslims. In the contexts of the debate recently in The Netherlands it was not raised by Muslims but by some politicians arguing that those that give it are using their right to freedom of speech.

    The point that I made about Wilders which I think you have avoided is that unless he is a hypocrit, he has to support that point of view considering that he spouts “freedom of speech no matter what!”. Now having said that, why does he not say it and instead avoid it? If he supported that right, as an Israeli how would you then feel?

    Wilders is not a descent fellow, never has been. I am Dutch and I have seen him from his first days in parliament. He takes the radical view not out of a faith, but out of a search for popularity, and that is failing. Regardless, he is going to be found guilty in the court under the two hate-insightment charges and banned from parliament and public office for good.

    1. Don’t be a parrot, Solkhar.

      “I am Dutch and I have seen him from his first days in parliament. He takes the radical view not out of a faith, but out of a search for popularity,”

      Hardly. Wilders doesn’t give a rats ass for popularity. Wilders, the hero, the patriot, my friend! The poor fellow lives in hiding because your co-religionists and the lefty traitors in Holland want to cut his throat or blow him to the sky or both. And you are as Dutch as the Kaaba in Mecca (or whatever is inside of it..) I’m sure.

      “Holocaust denial, which I find abhorent”– you do, Solkhar? Really?

      Then why do you promote it? Are you a grave digger/necrophiliac/ grave desecrator?

      Holocaust denial is the same as defecating on the graves of those you despise. Jew-hatred, which was almost disappeared after WWII, is now common in some quarters, in Europe and elsewhere. Jew-hatred is sucked in with the mothers milk by every Moslem I ever met. Why do Moslems spread this disease?

      You just confirmed that you are no different. That’s your understanding of free speech.

      Be my guest, but don’t do it here. Soil yourself!

  7. Ahh, the quality control by the bloger is showing, with emotive rants.

    Wilders is only interested in being adored, he cannot get it from the majority so he feeds the radical minority. As all meglamaniacs are, they first do not care about any idiology, then they chose one that they can make the most from, then they take it over (he tried and failed twice and so made his own) and then will push things to the legal limit to be in trouble so he can look like a victim/martyr and since he has gone way to far, he will have no choice anymore but to push it to the end, not because he believes in his cause but BECAUSE he would never want to be seen as failing it to his followers.

    “Your friend” Wilders is running for his life because he pushed the boundaries very well knowing it will provoke radicals, I do not support them at all and their threats are those of criminals, but the reality is if you play the game of hate-mongering against known radicals you will be burnt. Of course it is to his advantage, gets the sympathy vote from those that do not know better. He has been a pain in the side of almost everyone in Dutch government and politics and that is on the record for all to see if they wish to go and look.

    As for my not being Dutch, go to Google Earth or Map if you like, find Leidschendam, the Winkelcentrum Leidsenhage and go three blocks to south east and that is were the house I grew-up, my father, my brother, two sisters and my 7 uncles and aunts . Some still live within a two minutes walk from that home.

    Holocaust denials – you changed and twisted the subject again, avoiding the points made and that is being asked all over Holland. I do not support holocaust denial, I condemn it and I continue. Your twisting to avoid answering by mentioning the hatred for Jews by many Muslims is just that, avoidance.

    The subect of anti-Jew hatred is mostly a subject of Arab politics because of the Arab-Palestinian issue that has been made religous by radicals, lilnks to anti-western rhetoric because of US support and of course the increased attention to the issue and making it bigger than it is by radical right-wing agenda pushers like the failed academic Spencer. Before the arrival of Israel, the Jews were just as comfortable and to be honest just as abused by everyone at a global level, not less or more in the Muslim world and it should never be forgotten that the Holocaust was not a creation of Muslims. The defacing of Jewish graves is also not only done by Muslims, but of course you avoid that as well. Twist out of that.

    You soiled yourself a long time ago.

    1. Solkhar, the first 3 paragraphs are too absurd to respond to.

      You are a holocaust denier because you come here on this blog claiming it is free speech to defecate on 6 million death Jews. That’s what makes you a despicable cretin and a worm. Nothing more, nothing less.

      “The defacing of Jewish graves is also not only done by Muslims”- you really love soaking in the sewers, don’t you, solkhar?

      “the Holocaust was not a creation of Muslims”-

      Really, Solkhar? You mean you don’t know that the Handschar brigades very actively rounded up Jews in the Balkans and killed them wherever they found them as per Koran? You never heard of the mufti of Jerusalem who was a close friend of Adolf Hitler and instructed him that it was important to wipe out da Joooozzzzz…”

      History? Obviously, if it doesn’t suit your da’awa it never happened. Soiled yourself again!

    2. The subject of Jew hatred:

      Is Anyone Listening to What Arabs Say about Israel?

      In 2008, “Abbas explained the reason the PA did not engage in terror was not because they opposed violence, but because they were ‘unable’ to mount attacks at that time.”

      Who Is Really Being Dishonest About Islam? (AINA)

      “If Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived together peaceably and productively only with Christians and Jews relegated by law to second-class citizen status, then al-Andalus has precisely nothing to teach our age about tolerance.”

  8. Solkhar , sorry mate , you are so long winded I can’t read your posts.
    Do you know how many death threats Geert Widers has received? Why do people who say they belong to a peaceful religion , make death threats?

  9. * “Your friend” Wilders is running for his life because he pushed the boundaries very well knowing it will provoke radicals, I do not support them at all and their threats are those of criminals, but the reality is if you play the game of hate-mongering against known radicals you will be burnt.

    You would be the one with knowledge of game / role play, Solkhar, but I don’t think Wilders is playing a game. However, his fellow politicians do appear to prefer appeasement of “known radicals”
    and muslims to tackling & defeating them. Hence the “muslim reference groups”, “diversity officers”, muslim-only “prayer” rooms,
    muslim-only swimming pool hours, removal of piggy banks and things “upsetting muslim sensibilities” from public places, and so on.

    The West is being terra-formed (terror-formed) to accommodate an
    evil & dangerous religious system, and there are consequences.

  10. * The subect of anti-Jew hatred is mostly a subject of Arab politics because of the Arab-Palestinian issue that has been made religous by radicals,

    Really, Solkhar? It couldn’t have anything to do with the prophecies
    given through the true prophets of God that you claim have been
    tampered with, could it?

    Like this one?

    “I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem.
    On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves.”

    God, speaking through the prophet Zechariah, not the fake allah
    through his sockpuppet mohammed. Don’t drink from the cup,
    Solkhar – flee from islam and its false prophet, for the day is coming
    when, in game-play terms that you might understand, it is “game over!”

  11. The blog owner against twists and makes strange accussations because he has a political agenda to complete in his postings.

    I would find your the one who is smearing and disrespecting 6 million Jews and your arguments are very suspect in objectives to talk as such. You seem to wish to imply that the entire Nazi aparatus was Arab and still you have yet in the above thread acknowledged that it was National Socialism in Germany under the policies of Hitler and his cronies that planned and implemented the coordinated destruction of Jews in Europe and beyond. There were accomplices in various forms all over the place, Arab groups, Croats, Dutch, French and other sympathizers. I note also you avoided the point that the defacing of Jewish headstones is not only being done by Arabs in Europe, you forget the NeoNazis there and in Eastern Europe….

    You are trying and failing to be clever in your obvious twists.

    I will repeat it just for the record since you avoid it, the denial of the holocaust is repugnant but if you look closely, Wilders is obliged to support it as free spech – or he is a hypocrit considering he constantly demands the right for anyone to have his freedom of speech “no matter what” – his words.

    For my part, freedom of speech is a personal right but not for someone in public office if it contains hate or bigotry. In addition, collective and published speech that contains hate and bigotry is crime that needs to be squashed. Freedom of speech is a right, but abusing it should have that right to be taken away. Simple and it goes both ways – those Muslims that declare hate and bigotry, anti-Semitic, demands for revolution etc should all be punished as much as hate-mongers like Wilders.

    1. Got it, Solkhar:

      Freedom of speech to vilify jews and other religions is fine, freedom of speech against Islam is hate-speech and bigotry.

      You are a genius!

      Btw: how big is your zebiba?

  12. theresaj,

    if you read the posts you will note that I said he crossed the path of radicals whom are violent. The average Dutch Muslim, and in fact most Muslims detest the man but that is all.

  13. Solkhar, please name some average Dutch Muslims and let us know how many followers they have.

    After that, please let us know if Wilders is safe discussing the future of Western civilization with them.

    Thanks for that!

  14. Solkhar…
    He has been a pain in the side of almost everyone in Dutch government and politics and that is on the record for all to see if they wish to go and look.

    Hello!
    Thats’ what he’s elected into parliament for, to fight against the elites appeasement of anything and everything muslims demand,Dhimmi cowards that have infiltrated European politics selling European nations out to what are Arab warlords.
    2010 When we shall see the Barcelona declaration moving in, giving hoards of muslims the right to enter the UK and Europe.
    Something kept well away from the general public, the EUs dirty little secret.
    Signed upto by all UKs three parties, plus all the Socialist/Commie’s across the EUSSR.
    The EUMED- Expanding to bring in muslim Arab lands approx 11 more.

    I doubt that hardly one in a thousand in the UK have even heard of this.

    II: The Barcelona Declaration was signed in Barcelona in 1995 between all EU countries and 10 “partner” countries: Morocco, Algeria, Tunis, Egypt, Palestinian Autonomy, Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey. Like the Union for the Mediterranean it is a declaration of intent – not judicially binding. However, the EU does see it as binding. The Arabs have taken what was advantageous to them – and disregarded the obligations.

    1. Political Part
    Peace, stability and security and shared prosperity in the Mediterranean.
    Respect for human rights, democracy.
    Ensure freedom of expression,
    of religion, without discrimination based on race, nationality, language, religion or sex;
    Combat manifestations of intolerance, racism and xenophobia.

    2. Economic Part
    Free Trade Area: The parties have set 2010 as the target date for gradual establishment of this area which will cover most trade.
    Trade in services, including right of establishment, will be gradually liberalized.

    http://britanniaradio.blogspot.com/2009/08/thursday-13-august-2009-centurean2s.html

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