Muslims are supplanting our culture more than enhancing it


Immigrants changing European culture more than enhancing it


Muslims’ ‘parallel society’

Through decades of mass immigration to Europe’s hospitable cities and because of a strong disinclination to assimilate, Muslims are changing the face of Europe, perhaps decisively. These Muslim immigrants are not so much enhancing European culture as they are supplanting it. The products of an adversarial culture, these immigrants and their religion, Islam, are “patiently conquering Europe’s cities, street by street.” More from counter jihad
Fitzgerald must read:

A matter of self-preservation

The crux with Islamic immigration

Like many women in Mogadishu, [Maryam Mohammed] feels less vulnerable to violence nowadays, but she is afraid it will be harder to find work under the Islamic regime.“I don’t see them as something good,” she said. “I’d like to leave Somalia if I can and do business, have a small shop or even a job with a decent salary, like a secretary or a cleaner.”


“Now I’m afraid to be arrested or beaten,” she said. “It’s safer than before, but we have no freedom. We are not happy with this Islamic Sharia law.”

She dreads donning a drab hijab before leaving the house.

– from this article

Here is the problem. Suppose this woman were allowed to emigrate to, say, Italy. Presumably she would arrive with her family — her husband, her children. Or if not, she would find a husband once in Italy.

This husband might be found from among the Muslims already resident in Italy, or else this woman might find a non-Muslim husband from among the many people, including Italians, in Italy. As a Muslimah, she cannot marry a non-Muslim, so a non-Muslim husband would have to convert to Islam. This would likely mean very little to him. He would not take it seriously. Nonetheless, once he does convert, he has now become part of the Islamic community. There is then a chance that, by degrees, he will take the whole thing seriously, after the manner of converts such as Adam Gadahn, John Walker Lindh, Richard Reid, Jose Padilla – you get the idea.

Or if he doesn’t go that far, he will at least further help to acclimatize Italians to the idea that “there is nothing wrong with Islam.” In the village there will be mutterings along the lines of “Pippo, that fusto, managed to get that Somali stunner — I’d turn Muslim too to get her” or something similar. Children result. They are all raised as Muslims. They go to the local schools, and acquire a native command of the language. But they do not abandon Islam. Indeed, as they live in a non-Muslim society, and are not forced to confront the economic and political failures that every Muslim country exhibits, they may have little idea of how Islam in operation actually works. But they are still people who call themselves Muslims, and we, the Infidels, have no idea what this will cause them, or could cause them, to do in the future. We likewise have no idea what their children, or their grandchildren will see as their responsibility as Muslims. The “moderate” Muslim today may be transformed into an “immoderate” Muslim, or his descendants could be if he does not make a complete break and become an apostate. All over the West now we see the phenomenon of Muslim children who are more devout and observant than their parents. It is the most peculiar belief-system, and its hold on its declared followers clearly very strong.

How many of these Somali women will turn out to be like Ayaan Hirsi Ali? One out of 20? One out of 100? One out of 1,000? One out of 100,000? How many of the men will turn out to be like Magdi Allam in Italy, or like Bassam Tibi in Germany? How many Ibn Warraqs and Ali Sinas, or converts to Christianity such as Walid Shoebat, are there likely to be in any population of, say, 1000 Muslim immigrants? Should the Western world admit a million immigrants, or permit them to remain, because a few of them see the light? What would, statistically, be the magic number that would justify taking such a risk with your own lives, and the future of your children, and the future of art and science and the possibilities of mental and other kinds of freedom?

You might say it would be cruel to prevent this woman from emigrating to a Western country. I claim that it would be much crueler, to us, to take a chance on such a person. Let Muslims remain within Dar al-Islam. Let the Infidels do everything they can to first learn themselves, and then to show Muslims that they understand (so that Muslims will then have to begin to recognize) that the political, economic, social, intellectual, and moral failures of Islamic societies, both within Dar al-Islam and in Dar al-Harb, are directly related to, and arise out of, Islam itself.

How Western governments should deal with Muslim immigrants


I subscribe to the now tiny but, I believe, some-day-to-be prevalent Separationist School of Western-Islamic Relations. We separationists affirm the following:

  • Islam is a mortal threat to our civilization.
  • But we cannot destroy Islam.
  • Nor can we democratize Islam.
  • Nor can we assimilate Islam.
  • Therefore the only way to make ourselves safe from Islam is to separate ourselves from Islam.

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Hugh Fitzgerald:

What does it cost the FBI, the local police, the judicial system, to monitor sometimes around the clock, to hold enless meetings about, to investigate an actual plot or a completed crime, to prepare a criminal case, to hold a trial, to prosecute, to hold another trial if, given the ignorance and idiocy of so many juries, the first one goes awry, to defend an appeal, to lock someone up and support him for ten or twenty or fifty years, or life, to do all of these things, and many more, including fighting off every kind of lawsuit based on demands by Muslims for every kind of yielding and accommodation by non-Muslims whose political and legal institutions, whose way of life, those Muslims have nothing but contempt, and who do not share, who cannot possibly share, any sense of loyalty for the history of this nation, created as it was entirely by non-Muslims, and until the last few decades peopled entirely by non-Muslims, and based on principles and an idea of individual autonomy that are not merely foreign to Islam, but flatly contradicted by the principles of the Shari’a, the Holy Law of Islam which, Muslims are taught, should ultimately be imposed everywhere, for all obstacles to the spread, and then the dominance, of Islam — which means the Shari’a — must be removed, everywhere.

Why do we ask for more and more trouble? Can’t we in the United States see what Muslims have done in Great Britain, in Germany, in the Netherlands, in Belgium, all over Western Europe? Is there a sane person in Western Europe who would not wish to turn the clock back, wish that the Pakistanis had never been allowed into Great Britain, the Moroccans and Turks into the Netherlands, the Algerians (and Moroccans and Tunisians) into France, the Somalis and Egyptians and Libyans into Italy, the Turks (and Moroccans) into Germany, and so on? Is there an honest Infidel who would dare to disagree with the statement that “the large-scale presence of Muslims in the countries of Western Europe has led to a situation, for both the indigenous non-Muslims, and for other, but non-Muslim, immigrants, that is much more unpleasant, expensive, and physically dangerous for them, than would be the case without that large-scale Muslim presence.”

Will the Qu’ran change? Will the Hadith change? Will the facts of Muhammad’s life, as recounted in the Muslim biographies, the Sira, change? If they cannot, because the Qur’an is the immutable word of God, and the Hadith were winnowed and assigned ranks of “authenticity” more than a thousand years ago by the most respected muhaddithin, then why should one entertain the wan hope that somehow, in some way, simply because it has just got to be, doesn’t it, that Islam will change, or as Tariq Ramadan, that snake, likes to put it, without ever explaining what he means, a “European Islam” can be created, without of course telling us what texts, what tenets, what attitudes, what atmospherics in this “European Islam” would differ from the Islam of North Africa, or the Middle East, or of Muslims in Pakistan or Bangladesh or Indonesia.

Are we not entitled to ask that those in the government take notice of reality, and cease to allow Muslims into our country, where they can only increase that unpleasantness, that skyrocketing expense, that ominous threat of physical insecurity? What does it take to get the government to respond to our most essential needs and desires? What?

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 25, 2008 8:44 PM

Atlas Shrugs:

A fifth of European Union will be Muslim by 2050: “demographic time bomb”

All I can say is, I am glad I won’t be around to see it, but ….. my children and their children will. Europe and indeed the West is throwing away with both hands the greatest civilization known to man. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness traded for misogyny, oppression and hate. Centuries of toil, progress and war to come full circle ……. tribal barbarity. We are entering a very dark age.

6 thoughts on “Muslims are supplanting our culture more than enhancing it”

  1. “Muslims are supplanting our culture more than enhancing it”

    How could they possibly ‘enhance’ our culture ?
    Great literature ? Great music ?
    Philosophy ? Wisdom ? – nothing – They have nothing to bring to our culture except destruction .

  2. What is happening in the U.K is Sad. The visible presence of the Muslim community, the accommodating layout that has made Britain a home away from home for most Gulf Arabs is horrifying. From Pakistan to Saudi Arabia it seems everyone has merged into their own community, and not assimilating. In the U.S. integration is much easier, since most have to content with the hard working conditions that forces everyone to integrate, and join the rest of society. Life is harder here, and family connection is harder to maintain. Places are far more spread out, and connection here is very fragile, even amongst family members.

  3. The beast is Saudi Arabia. As long as you feed the beast, and it’s backward mentality with money, and prizes it will continue to spread it’s message from Egypt to pakistan. They have influenced the entire Muslim world by their money, and television shows of Islamic teachings. They had nothing without the west, and Asia. It will take them many more hundreds of years to catch up with the rest of the world, by which it will too late.

  4. They are not Europe or America at all. Europe, say is a convergent system of history, religion, culture, cultivated science and traditions. They are not part of Our culture. They never set in anything, either in widly understood science(maybe just decimal counting system), religion, culture. They not comply to our traditions. They actualy contempt it. But, of course, they come here, demending guarantees of freedom, rights, , our knowledge, results of science (technology, medical care). and so on. Is that fair??

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