There was no genocide in Srebrenica, but a hell of a lot of false propaganda!

“After 14 years of investigating events that took place in Srebrenica in 1995 I can attest there was no genocide over Muslims in that enclave”

The strange thing about this case is that self-proclaimed anti-jihadists who have no trouble recognizing Palestinian “Paliwood” War-Is-Deceit propaganda designed to advance the jihad cause by manufacturing Israeli atrocities, and who even recognize fauxtography generated by the Palestinians, Iran, and others for the same purpose, refuse even to consider the possibility that Muslims could have carried out any deceptive atrocity-manufacturing in the Balkans. Indeed, some even charge that anyone who thinks that Balkan Islamic jihadists carried out any deception at all must be secretly a sympathizer of this genocide-that-never-was.

But that, of course, is a common tactic of both Leftists and jihadists: if you can’t refute ’em, defame ’em.

“Srebrenica: More Myth Than Massacre,” by Caleb Posner, August 25:

As the saying goes, history is written by the winners. And when it comes to the former Yugoslav peoples, that can readily be described as everybody but the Serbs. So it is unsurprising then that they have been vilified throughout the West, labeled as war criminals and butchers whose unmitigated xenophobia caused the collapse of a great multi-ethnic state and the bloodiest set of wars Europe had witnessed in a half century. Yet much as Joe Biden and other Serbophobic politicians who called for the repeated bombing of Serbia during the Wars of Yugoslav Secession might believe that summary to be accurate, the facts simply do not lend themselves to such a conclusion. This may be no better demonstrated than by looking at Srebrenica, which has long been Exhibit A in the court of world opinion in the case against the Serbs.

Officially, the story goes that around 8000 innocent Bosnian Muslims were, without any provocation, slaughtered indiscriminately by genocidal Serbs with revanchist aims, who were unmoved by the civilian status of their victims, or that the area they attacked was to be a safe haven managed by the unbiased and above reproach United Nations. As far as making a case for the bloody violence the Western allies would unleash on the Serbs, that did the job rather well, as it played to the sympathies of the emotionally-driven masses. Of course, with respect to capturing the truth, the governmental line is rather inadequate.

So what exactly is the truth? Alexander Dorin, a Swiss researcher who just recently sent his book “Srebrenica – The History of Salon Racism” to print in German (Serb and English translations are planned in the future) said in an interview that, “After 14 years of investigating events that took place in Srebrenica in 1995 I can attest there was no genocide over Muslims in that enclave — the myth about the massacre of Muslims was invented by the late Bosnian Muslim war leader Alija Izetbegović and then-U.S. president Bill Clinton.” Questionable as that allegation may sound to many, it is important to recall that the United States actively armed Izetbegović and his ragtag jihadist army during the war, applied pressure on Tudjman’s secessionist Croat government to cease his involvement in the Herzeg-Bosnia land theft, and sought actively to create a Bosniak state where one had not traditionally existed (for the land falls within the bounds of historic Serbia). Much of this, especially the sale of arms, was documented heavily even by the liberal American media at the time. And indeed, once the other factual inaccuracies become apparent, it seems quite evident that there was not a Srebrenica massacre, but rather a military engagement that, like many US operations, involved some inadvertant civilian casualties, that has been mythologized to give political cover to the warmongers that led us into battle on intelligence information more questionable than any ever utilized by the Bush administration.

For instance, the real number of dead bodies uncovered was closer to 2000. Some 3000 names of alleged victims were alive enough to vote in the 1996 elections. And many other dead bodies were found to be from previous gun battles or from non-violent ends more than a decade before the event in question. Still unaddressed though is guilt. Among the 2000 dead discovered were a very large number of soldiers who, under the leadership of jihadist Naser Orić killed some 3000 Serbian civilians beforehand. That raises perhaps the most important point: Srebrenica was not a purposeful slaughter of innocent civilians, but an effort by Serb forces to save the lives of their countrymen from an enemy army that had already spilled ample blood, and which was cowardly seeking refuge in protected civilian areas that were supposed to be unarmed, and therefore demilitarized….

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6 thoughts on “There was no genocide in Srebrenica, but a hell of a lot of false propaganda!”

  1. This is based on a blog by an unknown student called Posner on a book by a basically unknown Swiss-German writter whom avoids background and credentials on his onw personal website but does put a lot of effort to sell his books.

    So where is the uproar? There is none because the attrocity did occur and that is the simple fact.

    As I have mentioned before, I was part of the Dutch team that inquired into the events that had happened and if there was any illegal or immoral actions by the Dutch peacekeepers there. Being there makes all the difference, talking to the witnesses, the Dutch soldiers whom were devastated in being helpless – and told to do nothing – some whom have since committed suicide or become alcoholics or institutionalised.

    I find the item frankly offensive, that for agenda reasons right-wing BS artists will try and capitialise on the misery of 8,000 deaths and the continuing suffering of their familes by purposefully supporting this crap and the efforts by Serbian Nationalists whom were responsible for both the event and the war to still hide and change basic truth.

  2. In the 1990’s I initially thought that the Serbs were the major aggressor. It was difficult to sift and correlate the historical records but after several years of study I concluded that the Serbs were the minor aggressor and were the major victims of Muslim and Croat aggression. The latter (Muslims and Croats) deployed aggressive agitprop and disinformation targeting the Western media; the Serbs did not. Whole histories of the wars in Yugoslavia have been written in the West based on Muslim and Croat fabrications. The Serbs did not murder 8,000 in Srebrenica; those that beat this drum are either uninformed fools in the West or supporters of the Muslim jihad against the West.

    Solkhar is a Muslim lying bastard that trolls pro-Muslim deceptions on anti-jihad blogs.

    1. The Western media was entirely anti-Serb. They still are. This blog tries to rectify some of the falsehoods. Bombing the Christian Serbs to assist the soldiers of Allah to establish themselves right smack in the middle of Europe is Clinton’s (and therefore America’s) greatest crime!

  3. Arius has an agenda and obviously not interested in what is clear documented history, simple. It is rather like denying the Holocaust, to do so is really questionable for its motives.

    For those that do not know the history, there was a strong Serbian Nationalist power base, even within the former Yugoslavia and that resulted in the careful domination by Serbs of the leadership, numbers and thus control of the Yugoslav Military. After the fall of communism, nationalism spread in all areas and Croats decided to separate, when this started the strong Serb nationalists decided to make a move for the concept of the Greater Serbia which included Bosnia within it. When the Bosnians (with a Muslim majority) chose also independance, the Bosnian Serbs declared their part of that Greater Serbia and bingo the conflict started.

    War crimes investigation has been done and continued, the results and evidence is clear and undefensible and yet still the process of law continues. Serbs, Croats and Bosnian Muslims all have been charged and those found and caught put to the court, either found guilty or not, from all three groups. Having said that, it is also clear that the largest majority of aggression, oppression and crimes against humanity were predominantly Serbian – that just happens to be a fact, like Srebrenica. Those that appose this view have connections to Serb Nationalism that continues to deny it as they are still a part of the power-block in that area and cannot afford to capitulate and face the truth.

    When I visited Srebrenica, the evidence was there and clear and I still remember the difficult process of information collection – difficult because of the sadness and reality of the evidence and the smell of the aftermath still visible. In my visit to Serb parts of the country to gain information, there was no such smell but a collective organisation of information – let us just say – way to nicely prepared with pre-prepared affidavits that the leadership and participants were “not there”, even before the question was asked.

    Arius is obviously a part of that agenda or a victim of nationalist propoganda.

  4. Stella L. Jatras: The Rape of Serbian Women
    The Rape of Serbian Women
    by Stella L. Jatras

    (Letter to Phyllis Chesler of Chesler Chronicles)

    Dear Phyllis,

    I apologize for the length of my letter, but there is so much to be covered on this subject in order to do it justice.

    In your commentary of 28 July entitled, “Is Marital Rape a Crime in America or Is It a Muslim Religious Right?,” Chesler Chronicles, you wrote: “In this regard, rape was declared a crime against humanity by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia. [ICTY] I was tentatively supposed to testify about Rape Trauma Syndrome in the case in The Hague, but there was no funding to either protect or relocate the women who were prepared to testify, and thus, these trials were canceled.”

    My concern is the distorted application of the rape declaration by the ICTY. Anything from the ICTY, a bought and paid for tool of the western powers, can only be seen in light of the objectives of those powers, especially Washington. A major objective — which was achieved — was to make the Muslims the victims in Bosnia and Serbs the villains. Paradoxically, that contrived victimization is itself a weapon in depicting any concerns about Islam here — including victimization of women, not as helping protect human rights, but as a propaganda tool to justify discrimination, racism, etc.

    In that context, the accusations of mass rape – and specifically of “Serb rape camps,” which were never shown to have existed anywhere — was part of a calculated campaign of depicting Muslims-white-hats and Serbs-black-hats. I draw your attention to a letter written by Herb Brin of Heritage Southwest Jewish Press to President Clinton on 14 April 1994: “When I visited the Serbian front a year ago, I learned to my dismay that the rape story was a total concoction. In wars, rapes occur–but in the hundreds of thousands and as a means of so-called ‘ethnic cleansing?’ This was incredible and false.” Certainly rapes are committed in wartime, even worse in communal wars. There is no evidence that Bosnia was any worse (or better) than anywhere else where comparable conflicts have taken place. Tragically, the crime of the actual rapes that occurred was compounded by the use of false accusations of rape as a propaganda weapon, which is what the west and the Muslims did. Such false accusations both paste a damning accusation on the party not guilty of the wrongdoing, while devaluing the horror of actual rapes committed.

    The fact that the ICTY declares rape a crime against humanity — a fact obvious to any normal person, ICTY or no ICTY — should not be given much weight, given the source. In fact, it serves to devalue the problem of rape during wartime because the ICTY shamefully used what should have been a principled legal finding as a blatant political propaganda weapon.

    There is no question that even one rape is unspeakable, but with all due respect, I would like to present the other side of the story regarding the rapes that occurred in Bosnia, specifically the rape of Serbian women which were deemed to be insignificant by the media and by The Hague. Instead of being honest brokers in a nasty civil war, we took sides against the Serbian people. Here I quote Yohanan Ramati, Director of the Jerusalem Institute for Western Defense, “This organized anti-Serb and pro-Muslim propaganda should cause anyone believing in democracy and free speech serious concerns. It recalls Hitler’s propaganda against the allies in World War II. Facts are twisted and, when convenient, disregarded.”

    I offer the following:

    “Former Yugoslavia: MANIPULATED HORROR. (Translated From French) ‘Ethnic cleansing, rapes: the war in the Balkans is already sufficiently horrible without the need to exaggerate the consequences’.” [Source: Le Point, March 13, 1993, page 34]

    For Envoye Special, Jerome Boney went to investigate on the spot by going to Tuzla, the city mentioned in all the reports. He confided his astonishment in the last February 4 broadcast: He reported, “When I was 50 kilometers from Tuzla, I heard: ‘Go to the Tuzla gymnasium, there are 4,000 raped women.’ At 20 kilometers the figure went down to 400. At 100 kilometer there were no more than 40. And on the spot I found 4 women who agreed to testify.” – Jacques Merlino (France 2).

    Unnoticed by the media was the submission on December 18, 1992, of the length report #S24491 by the UN Security Council to the General Assembly. The report included depositions by Serb rape victims. Yet while that report was receiving minimal circulation at the UN, the news media were focusing on undocumented claims that Serbian soldiers had committed as many as 60,000 rape of Muslim women.

    The Jan 4 1993 issue of Newsweek reported that up to 50,000 Muslim women had been raped in Bosnia. Tom Post, a contributor to the article, explained that the estimate of 50,000 rapes was based on interviews with 28 women. #S24491 which was filed three weeks before this January 4th 1993 article appeared in Newsweek was not mentioned.

    So which is it, 60,000 as reported by the majority of the news media, or 50,000 rapes as reported in 1993 by Newsweek, considering both exaggerated the numbers, or whatever number the spin doctors felt would make the best headline?

    Jewish publication ISRAPUNDIT reported: “Such was the false tale spread of rapes by Serbian soldiers of Muslim women to supposedly increase the Serbian population in Kosovo and Bosnia. While rapes by Serbian soldiers were not proven in the end, there were rapes of Serbian women by the mujahedeen and members of the Kosovo Liberation Army. Both were funded by Saudi Arabia and Iran. You know the Saudis, they’re the ones whose ‘road map for peace’ is what Israel is adhering to as the same Saudis who fund Hamas (with the Iranians) to fire missiles at Israeli day care centers. The US State Department calls all that diplomacy.”

    Jared Israel (Emperor’s Clothes) offers, “Susan Sontag and the rape of American thinking,” (5/30/00) where he states that Sontag claims that Bosnian Serb troops indulged in: “The rape by military orders of tens of thousands of women throughout Serb-captured Bosnia. By military order, mind you,” writes Israel. He continues. “Now keep in mind that the Bosnian Serb army numbered somewhere around 30,000 men, “many of whom were engaged in desperate military engagements.”

    “Aside from the absurdity of this small, hard-pressed army, stretched out along a one thousand mile front, raping tens of thousands of women, the mass rape stories rely on a false impression, carefully cultivated by the Western media: that the Bosnian Serb army was an aggressive invading force that “captured territory”. This is wrong on both counts: they were mainly a defensive force and they were in fact defending their own territory.”

    In her article ‘Yugoslavia Seen Through a Dark Glass,” analyst Diana Johnstone offers the following:

    “No one denies that many rapes occurred during the civil wars in Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina, or that rape is a serious violation of human rights. So is war, for that matter. From the start, however, inquiry into rape in Bosnia-Herzegovina focused exclusively on accusations that Serbs were raping Muslim women as part of a deliberate strategy. The most inflated figures, freely extrapolated by multiplying the number of known cases by large factors, were readily accepted by the media and international organizations. No interest was shown in detailed and documented reports of rapes of Serbian women by Muslims or Croats. The late Nora Beloff, former chief political correspondent of the London Observer, described her own search for verification of the rape charges in a letter to The Daily Telegraph (January 19, 1993). The British Foreign Office conceded that the rape figures being bandied about were totally uncorroborated, and referred her to the Danish government, then chairing the European Union. Copenhagen agreed that the reports were unsubstantiated, but kept repeating them. Both said that the EU had taken up the “rape atrocity” issue at its December 1992 Edinburgh summit exclusively on the basis of a German initiative. In turn, Fran Wild, in charge of the Bosnian Desk in the German Foreign Ministry, told Ms. Beloff that the material on Serb rapes came partly from the Izetbegovic government and partly from the Catholic charity Caritas in Croatia. No effort had been made to seek corroboration from more impartial sources. Despite the absence of solid and comprehensive information, a cottage industry has since developed around the theme. See: Norma von Ragenfeld-Feldman, “The Victimization of Women: Rape and the Reporting of Rape in Bosnia-Herzegovina, 1992-1993,” Dialogue (Paris), No. 21, March 1997; and Diana Johnstone, “Selective Justice in The Hague,” The Nation, Sept. 22, 1997, pp. 16-21.”

    And then there is also the case of a pregnant Bosnian Muslim woman who was registered in Switzerland as an asylum seeker and a victim of rape by Serbian soldiers who subsequently gave birth to a black baby. Nothing more was heard of the case.

    Although I am not Serbian, I have complete empathy with the sentiments of a Serbian lady friend who wrote: “I still hurt whenever I remember all of the false accusations leveled against Serbs for having run ‘rape camps’ in various parts of former Yugoslavia. Those accusations were lies. Later on, life began to imitate the dark art of propaganda journalism, when slave-brothels and trafficking in women indeed began flourishing under the NATO/Muslim occupation. Nobody ever came back to apologize to the Serbs for those false accusations, even though the evidence was transparently concocted and thoroughly refuted.”

    I believe you answered your own question regarding, “is it a Muslim Religious Right?” It appears to be so.

    Respectfully submitted,
    Stella L. Jatras

    As a career military officer’s wife, Stella Jatras has traveled widely and has lived in many foreign countries where she not only learned about other cultures but also became very knowledgeable regarding world affairs and world politics. With the advent of the war in Bosnia, Mrs. Jatras immediately recognized the bias of the Western media and the Clinton administration’s flawed foreign policy in the Balkans and began her efforts to present to the American people a more accurate view of that tragic situation. Stella Jatras lived in Moscow for two years (where her husband, George, was the Senior Air Attaché), and while there, worked in the Political Section of the US Embassy. Stella has also lived in Germany, Greece, including eight years in Saudi Arabia. Her travels took her to over twenty countries.

    Torture, Evidence-tampering, Beatings, Bribes, Blackmail and Bullying Continue at our International Kangaroo Court: Prosecutors have Witness Kidnapped, Falsely Imprisoned, and Family Detained and Threatened: All in a Day’s Work when a Serb is on Trial

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