The government-sanctioned Islamic supremacist confab ‘Gathering of a Million Faithful’ has concluded, having been approximately 995,000 short of its goal of having one million believers in attendance. Event organizers have repeatedly demonstrated an amazing mix of denial, self-deception, false victimization and conspiracy theory paranoia. For Islam’s believers, such a toxic brew of thinking (if one can call it that) is par for the course, and dangerous to everyone as it can be used to justify any amount of oppression and violence. Following up on this story; “Apostasy worse than reported, claims Himpun,” by By Yow Hong Chieh, The Malaysian Insider, 22 October 2011:
SHAH ALAM, Oct 22 — Himpunan Sejuta Umat ['Gathering of a Million Faithful'] said today the problem of Muslim apostasy in Malaysia was greater than what has been reported and suggested this was part of a global plan to destroy Islam.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/10/malaysian-islamic-supremacist-rally-concludes-rally-chairman-says-theres-a-massive-plot-by-christian.html
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‘Million person’ Malaysian Muslim ‘Himpun’ rally underway
Considerably fewer than one million people have showed up to the so-called ‘Gathering of a Million Faithful’ — only about 5,000 are reported to be in attendance. No word if the organizers intend to give their event a more accurate name; I suppose a more accurate moniker such as ‘Gathering of Five Thousand Faithful ‘ would have a lot less panache. Those in attendance include at least one local politician, Hassan Ali, who is noteworthy for having steadfastly defended the religious police raid on a Christian church in the Kuala Lumpur area in August, as well as the leader of a Malaysian jihadist and Muslim supremacist group called Perkasa (Malay for ‘power’ or ‘strength’). Of course, event organizers had no problem obtaining a government permit for their rally; quite unlike another non Muslim Malaysian group earlier this year that tried (and failed) to obtain government permission to have a public event. “Himpun gets underway at Shah Alam Stadium,” The Star, 22 October 2011:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/10/million-person-malaysian-muslim-himpun-rally-underway.html

Know your place, kafir dhimmies!

Predictably, the Malaysian government’s partial backtracking on its Islamic supremacist restrictions on the right of access to and distribution of Bibles was indeed not the last word we would hear on this issue. The dispute has dragged on for years, particularly over the issue of Malay-speaking Christians’ use of the Malay word for “God,” which is the Arabic loanword “Allah,” and they have used it for centuries.

Qur’an 29:46 does say “our Allah and your Allah are one and to Him we surrender,” but is a one-way line of discourse for Islamic proselytizing, claiming the authentic worship of the one, true deity for Islam alone. An unbeliever would be forbidden to argue with a Muslim in that manner. And depriving Christians of the right to call upon God in the name they have always used is a particularly devastating way of ensuring they “feel themselves subdued” (Qur’an 9:29) and a way of further marginalizing them in society by being able to say, “See? They don’t worship Allah!”

The “reasonableness” of the demands of a marginalized group, as Christians are in this Muslim-majority nation, is in the eye of the overlord beholder. “Unreasonable” becomes translatable as “Frankly, we don’t have to, and don’t you dare ask us again.”

“Don’t test patience of Malays, Perkasa warns Christians,” by Shazwan Mustafa Kamal for Malaysian Insider, April 11 (thanks to Jihad Watch):

KUALA LUMPUR, April 10 — Christians should be wary of making unreasonable demands such as asking that bibles be printed in Bahasa Malaysia, Perkasa chief Datuk Ibrahim Ali said today.
The Malay rights group president said that Malays have been patient for “far too long” and have allowed non-Malays to make excessive demands.
“How many Malays are Christian? Why do you have to have bibles in Bahasa? Why not use bahasa Iban, or Kadazan?
“This is a problem of national security … we (Malays) have been far too giving, I want to remind them to not be excessive in their demands,” said Ibrahim.
“They are not the majority of the country,” he stressed.
He said it, in so many words: Non-Muslim minority rights are to be at the mercy of the Muslim majority.

The Pasir Mas MP said that the reason why the Christian community were making demands now was because Sarawak elections were underway.
“They are taking advantage of the elections, they raise these things and we cannot object … they are trying to exploit sensitive issues,” added Ibrahim.
“We have not brought up the issue of our rights,” he said.
Christian groups have been locked in a dispute with the government over the usage of Malay language bibles, or Alkitab, and over the 35,000 new copies that have been impounded in Kuching and Port Klang by the home ministry.
The ministry then allowed the bibles to be released on condition of being stamped with serial numbers and the phrase “For Christians only”. Christian groups had initially refused to abide by these conditions and have not collected the copies.
The Najib administration said yesterday that the Malay bible importers have now agreed to collect the 35,000 copies impounded in Port Klang and Kuching.
However, the importers of the books in Port Klang have said the bibles will not be sold or distributed, but will be preserved as museum pieces to illustrate what Christians have called the “defacement” of their holy book.
Home Ministry secretary-general Datuk Seri Mahmood Adam said the 10-point solution proposed last week had “paved the way” for the importers, Bible Society of Malaysia (BSM) and The Gideons, to collect the books.
Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein himself had also been quoted as saying that the latest move was a “positive response” to the Cabinet’s collective decision in drawing up the 10-point solution.

Yes, some of the BS came from tjwork and I regret the confusion on that point.

I would point out one more thing, I lived in Jakarta in our Embassy there for two years, so now have been a regular visitor with long-lasting friends and contacts (both professional and social and from all spectrums) since 1985. I think after 24 years I can say that I obviously know more about the place than you, who have lived there and still get it wrong, have had a bad experience and confessed on a thread is the reason why you have chosen bigotry.

So, tell us again about the churches?