Arab child bride scandal: just don't blame Islam!

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Khalaf Al-Harbi | Okaz,

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Khalaf Al-Harbi’s intentions might be good and his concerns genuine, but  he literally ties himself in knots when he tries  to avoid the 600 pound gorilla in the room: Islam.


Because Muhammad married Aisha when she was 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9,  a good Muslim is an even better Muslim when he emulates the holy prophet.  A good Muslim knows there is nothing  wrong with it, because its the sunnah of the prophet.

In this case the 80-year old geezer is Islamically correct, and unless these Islamic teachings are altogether  abolished, we will see cases of this institutionalized pedophilia again and again.

Khalaf also invokes the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. (Sounds good, doesn’t it?)  but what good is this to anyone if the Arab-Muslim world doesn’t sign up and instead insists on the warped, nonsensical Cairo Declaration of Human Rights which is nothing more but Muselmanic deception, replacing human rights with the shari’a?

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By what reason or logic do we allow a young elementary schoolgirl to marry a man in his 80s? How could this happen without anyone raising a finger? Is it appropriate to publish this news item on the front page while the entire society considers it a personal affair?

Paradoxically, the groom insisted that he was not yet 80! Maybe he is three or four days less than 18. He boasted to the bride’s aunt that his marriage to her niece was not against Islam since it was based on mutual acceptance.

He said he proposed to her elder sister who turned down the offer because she was busy studying. He said the father then offered him her younger sister and allowed him to see her under Shariah law.

What is this? An older sister refuses to marry an old man and so the father willingly presents her younger sister. When the old groom was allowed to look at his would-be child bride, did he not notice any disapproval or sign of rejection on her face?

How do you expect a child to react? Who will tell us the difference between paternity and selling vegetables on the streets?

Before reading about this sad story, I was willing to believe that some foreign human rights organizations were targeting us. But after coming across this story, I thanked God that I was not a member of a human rights organization because I would definitely have targeted us.

I would have thrown away the Declaration of Human Rights in the wastepaper basket, torn off my clothes and gone into the street like Tarzan — it seems the world has turned into a jungle in which a father is willing to offer his child to a man in his 80s. It is totally disheartening that society is looking at this tragedy as a personal affair and questioning how they can object when the father has given his consent?

This marriage is a gross violation of international human rights agreements pertaining to children of which the Kingdom is a signatory. Moreover, the special committee formed by the Ministry of Health to study the phenomenon of marriages involving underage girls has resolved that such marriages cause deep health, psychological and social harms.

Islam, being a religion of humanity and providence, will not accept these harms. So how can we accept a father and an old groom stabbing our religion and society claiming, “she is his daughter and he is free to do whatever he wants with her?”

22 thoughts on “Arab child bride scandal: just don't blame Islam!”

  1. ‘ Islam, being a religion of humanity and providence ‘

    and lots of other things ….
    terrorism , intimidation , violence , lies , immorality ……
    I could go on but you get my drift .

  2. “Because Muhammad married Aisha when she was 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9, a good Muslim is an even better Muslim when he emulates the holy prophet. A good Muslim knows there is nothing wrong with it, because its the sunnah of the prophet.”

    This is disputed and evidence says this is incorrect. Radicals (both Muslim and non-Muslim) will fight to say the above is correct, for their own political social agendas, but academics using simple mathematics, calenders and historic events with dates known now know otherwise – and of course it also makes sense. Often, as they say, the simplist answer is the correct one – that the record in that particular haddith made a mistake.

    “A great misconception prevails as to the age at which Aisha was taken in marriage by the Prophet. Ibn Sa‘d has stated in the Tabaqat that when Abu Bakr [father of Aisha] was approached on behalf of the Holy Prophet, he replied that the girl had already been betrothed to Jubair, and that he would have to settle the matter first with him. This shows that Aisha must have been approaching majority at the time. Again, the Isaba, speaking of the Prophet’s daughter Fatima, says that she was born five years before the Call and was about five years older than Aisha. This shows that Aisha must have been about ten years at the time of her betrothal to the Prophet, and not six years as she is generally supposed to be. This is further borne out by the fact that Aisha herself is reported to have stated that when the chapter [of the Holy Quran] entitled The Moon, the fifty-fourth chapter, was revealed, she was a girl playing about and remembered certain verses then revealed. Now the fifty-fourth chapter was undoubtedly revealed before the sixth year of the Call. All these considerations point to but one conclusion, viz., that Aisha could not have been less than ten years of age at the time of her nikah, which was virtually only a betrothal. And there is one report in the Tabaqat that Aisha was nine years of age at the time of nikah. Again it is a fact admitted on all hands that the nikah of Aisha took place in the tenth year of the Call in the month of Shawwal, while there is also preponderance of evidence as to the consummation of her marriage taking place in the second year of Hijra in the same month, which shows that full five years had elapsed between the nikah and the consummation. Hence there is not the least doubt that Aisha was at least nine or ten years of age at the time of betrothal, and fourteen or fifteen years at the time of marriage.”

    “To facilitate understanding dates of these events, please note that it was in the tenth year of the Call, i.e. the tenth year after the Holy Prophet Muhammad received his calling from God to his mission of prophethood, that his wife Khadija passed away, and the approach was made to Abu Bakr for the hand of his daughter Aisha. The hijra or emigration of the Holy Prophet to Madina took place three years later, and Aisha came to the household of the Holy Prophet in the second year after hijra. So if Aisha was born in the year of the Call, she would be ten years old at the time of the nikah and fifteen years old at the time of the consummation of the marriage.”

    ….. only some of the many, evidentry details showing that Aisha was much older than what Bukhari mentioned. There were other contradictions on this matter, directly in his own text.

    “On the day (of the battle) of Uhud when (some) people retreated and left the Prophet, I saw Aisha daughter of Abu Bakr and Umm Sulaim, with their robes tucked up so that the bangles around their ankles were visible hurrying with their water skins (in another narration it is said, ‘carrying the water skins on their backs’). Then they would pour the water in the mouths of the people, and return to fill the water skins again and came back again to pour water in the mouths of the people.”

    According to one scholar calculating these errors: It should also be noted that Aisha joined the Holy Prophet’s household only one year before the battle of Uhud. According to the common view she would be only ten years of age at this time, which is certainly not a suitable age for the work she did on this occasion. This also shows that she was not so young at this time.

  3. The majority of Muslm countries now outlaw marriage before the age of 16 and some even 18.

    In fact the greatest number of child-marriages, honor killings, infantcide (particular female infantcide) is still in India.

  4. No, he was not a paedophile, just pointing out facts, something that certainly bothers you.

    You cut a post by Abdullah I notice, like you cut mine. Did he point out a fact you also did not want to be known?

    1. Solki, solkar:

      No, he was not a paedophile, just pointing out facts, something that certainly bothers you.

      It bothers me that you deny the authentic hadith and try to pull your taqiyya wool over the eyes and ears of alarmed unbelievers. You are posting a lot of unreferenced drivel that has no substance and is not supported by your own scriptures.

      Because you say so doesn’t make it so.

      Btw: I have no trouble with facts.

      But I’m fed up with spin. And you’re spinning again…

  5. * But I’m fed up with spin. And you’re spinning again…

    Like an Iranian centrifuge.

  6. Evidence given and cited this time and in full before, if you want I can put the full references again, but then you might chop it.

    In fact it is you who lacks the credibility of facts and references and why would you support what you think is authentic haddiths when you think the entire religion is a cult. That is rather hypocritial.

    SNIP for OT. If you want to debate Israel you can do it on an Israel thread.

  7. * deny that in fact Palestinians exist and have no rights.

    Like Moroccan converts to Christianity, Solkhar? Those rights?

    A two-state solution unacceptable for you blog-owner?

    A two-state solution is unacceptable to the God of Israel, Solkhar.

    “On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram and said, “To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates–” (Genesis 15:18)

    Nothing about a “two-state solution” in the covenant, Solkhar.
    Nothing allah can do about it, either.

  8. Your evidence is no evidence if its not supported by authentic hadith or the Koran, Solki. Besides, you don’t have to convince me about Mohammeds pedophilia, you should direct your efforts towards your co-religionists. Why do you think the 80-year old Arab thinks there is nothing wrong with marrying a 10-year old?

    Perhaps you need to learn how to do some close reading:

    In this case the 80-year old geezer is Islamically correct, and unless these Islamic teachings are altogether abolished, we will see cases of this institutionalized pedophilia again and again.

    Why don’t you support the abolishment of the hadith by Bukhari, Dawoud and Aisha if its all wrong and only you know what’s right?

  9. Snipped for BS

    The 80 year old either marries the 10 year old because he does not know better or he does so to ensure his male superiority but he does not do it from the Qur’an.

  10. He knows that its okay because the prophet of Islam did it, Solki. He knows better than you.

    Fine, its not in the Koran, its in the hadith.

    How much more spin before the coin drops?

  11. * No, he was not a paedophile, just pointing out facts, something that certainly bothers you.

    Your “prophet” was a rock spider, Solkhar. Does it bother you?

  12. Blog-owner loves to SNIP when it shows his BS.

    He also justifies himself constantly by repeating BS from poor quality and quesitonable websites.

    Trying to raise emotions by talking about paedophilia is not going to stick here, we could start talking about priests, the sheer overwhelming statistics on child abuse in the west, radical evangalists marrying numerous wives, some of them below 14 and living in the mountains of the US and so on – to show the emotions and if I am like you, I can concentrate on it. You know the trick, your very good at it.

    Mankind has the capacity to do the best and the worst and they will claim God on is on their side for both.

    I know the facts, I think you do but you will show otherwise and your attempt to put emotional BS on it to justify yourself does not work.

    1. Solkar, Stupid on display: assignment for you:

      Name one “poor quality and questionable website” and tell us why.

      Pedophilia is glorified and practiced in what you call your religion, whereas in our society its taboo and forbidden. The criminals are brought to justice, whether they are Mohammedans or priests or other lowlives.

      “Overwhelming statistics on child abuse in the west” proves that we prosecute it and keep track, whereas your Mohammedan cesspools don’t.

      “…radical evangalists marrying numerous wives, some of them below 14” have been prosecuted because its against the law. In your society its sanctioned by your religion.

      What you call ‘facts’ I would spell with “u”…

  13. Solkar, you talk about pedophillia with priests well, granted, some arseholes do have problems with little kids thats why theres a term phedophillia for it! Now the disgusting thing about your religion is that it approves it and when it happens the islamic community will go a long way to hide it from public view – thats why yo keep digressing and screeming about other things such as oh well isnt Israel evil!

    Youre a foolish man to believe in your evil religion. Your mohammad was nothing more than a brigand and your koran is so full of rubbish and errors that attributing it to God is a serious sin. If you wish to do good then pick up a Bible and seriously consider it.

  14. Solkar,
    Just because the word paedophile wasn’t in the original Arabic doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen, just as it still happens today.
    We can look back at a time when most of the people believed the world to be flat and still say, ah ha but it orbited the sun even then.
    We can also look back and say, years ago men believed that women had no (relevant) feelings, therefore rape and marriage were indistinguishable.
    We now know that a) the earth orbits the sun and b) Mohammed, like most of his contemporaries, of all religions and races, raped women.
    This habit was not confined to muslims then, but rape in retrospect is still rape.
    Since we are western infidels, we tend to feel that raping children is actually worse than raping adults and that we are the adults and you lot are still children.
    Copying a prophet! If it didn’t hurt so much I would have to laugh.

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