Interfaith Circus Anybody?

Sorry, But I am Not Buying Into Chrislam



Chrislam, as the name suggests, is a growing movement wherein some Christians are seeking to find common ground with Muslims. Indeed, it actually seeks to combine Christianity with Islam. It is a syncretistic movement that speaks about “spirituality without boundaries”. Whenever you hear that sort of talk, you should start heading for the hills.

Yet that is what we find in some leftist evangelical Christian circles today. Incredibly, it took place last year at the National Prayer Breakfast in Canberra. I wrote that episode up in several articles at the time:

But a number of leading American religious leftists are also pushing this cause in varying degrees. For example, Tony Campolo has argued that “interfaith prayers and even mystical unions are critical for all true peacemakers”. And given that a leftist vision of “social justice” seems to be the most important agenda item for Campolo, it is not surprising that he can praise Islam in these terms: “When it comes to what is ultimately important, the Muslim community’s sense of commitment to the poor is exactly in tune with where Jesus is in the 25th chapter of Matthew.”

More recently emerging church movement leader Brian McLaren has written a five-part blog entry on why Christians should join with Muslims in celebrating Ramadan. In it he said, “We, as Christians, humbly seek to join Muslims in this observance of Ramadan as a God-honouring expression of peace, fellowship, and neighbourliness.”

Once again the emphasis is on getting along, harmony and unity. Fine – to a point. But both these faiths are ultimately evangelistic, exclusive, and mutually incompatible. The heart of the Christian truth claim is that Jesus is God’s son, and he has come to save us from our sins. Islam claims that it is blasphemous to say God has a son.

So how far can two faiths get along when they are at heart directly opposed to each other? And the worrying thing about the McLaren posts is nowhere does he once mention that we in fact should be evangelising our Muslim friends, or praying for their conversion. This is really quite bizarre and worrying.

Of course all Christians should be in favour of making friends with Muslims, building bridges with them, and seeking to get close to them – but for the purpose of sharing with them the good news of Jesus Christ. If we simply aim for a warm and fuzzy ecumenical unity, where biblical truth is watered down or ignored all together, then we are doing no one a favour, whether ourselves or Muslims.

Joel Richardson has recently written up this story, and is worth quoting from here. He rightly notes that Christians often are involved in concentrated campaigns of prayer for Muslims during their holy month. Many have joined in on these 30-days of prayer and fasting for their Muslim friends.

But what about this interfaith initiative? Is it really what Christians should be involved in? Asks Richardson, “But does such an interreligious observance go beyond mere ‘neighborliness’ and cross the line of religious compromise and syncretism? Does observing the religious holy month of Ramadan create the impression of an endorsement of Islam?”

He continues, “McLaren, a leading voice in the growing left-wing Christian movement, wants everyone to know that he has not converted to Islam, but is a ‘deeply committed Christian.’ But McLaren is not fasting for the salvation of his Muslim friends. Instead he is seeking through the practice of this Islamic ritual to promote ‘the common good, together with people of other faith traditions’.”

While the motivations of McLaren and other might be good, we need to ask some hard questions: “Although McLaren has said that he and his followers ‘will seek to avoid being disrespectful or unfaithful to our own faith tradition in our desire to be respectful to the faith tradition of our friends,’ some have expressed that the very act of observing a Muslim religious season is itself highly unorthodox and contrary to historical Christian practice. While loving and befriending others is paramount to the Christian faith, the Bible is clear that Christians are to avoid actually participating in their religious ceremonies: ‘Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?’ (2 Corinthians 6:14-15)”

Indeed, just how does the Christian gospel fare in all of this? “What is also so concerning to observers of the growing emergent Christian movement is its tendencies to rarely express the Christian gospel while loudly and often proclaiming either a classic humanist message or outright religious pluralism. McLaren and other emergent leaders are often heard expressing the need to de-emphasize ‘doctrinal barriers’ between various religions including Christianity and Islam.”

And Chrislam is not mere theory. It is a burgeoning movement in various places around the world, and liberal denominations are already starting to lap it up. Richardson mentiones the story of Episcopal priestess Rev. Anne Holmes who announced in 2007 that she had become a Christian-Muslim. The story back then was reported this way:

“A Seattle priest has become a Muslim while also retaining her clergy status in the Episcopal Church. Her local bishop has described the development as ‘exciting.’ ‘I look through Jesus and I see Allah,’ explained the Rev. Ann Holmes Redding to the ‘Seattle Times,’ which reported that Redding puts on her Islamic headscarf on Fridays and her clerical collar on Sundays. … she still sees Jesus as her Savior, even if not divine, and plans to remain both a priest and an Episcopalian. Bishop Vincent Warner of the Episcopal Diocese of Olympia told the Seattle Times that Redding’s embrace of Islam has not been controversial in his diocese.”

That is as good of a summation of where theological liberalism and the interfaith movement are taking us as you will find. In the end it is really an anti-Christ activity, despite any benign motivations. Any movement that takes people away from Christ as Lord and Saviour is a movement which is not coming from God. Christians need to be very careful indeed about getting on board such initiatives.

As I wrote in a comment last year, “Christians in the interfaith movement tend to engage in at least three unhelpful activities. One, they tend to downplay and minimise the exclusive truth claims of Biblical Christianity. Two, they tend to downplay and minimise the horrendous Muslim persecution and dhimmitude of Christians all around the world (while there is no equivalent Christian persecution and dhimmitude of Muslims). Three, they tend to fail in the most important calling of Christians: to evangelise and disciple all nations.”

For all the talk of harmony, unity and friendship, the Chrislam movement is a move in the wrong direction. I for one will have nothing to do with it, and I hope that all serious followers of Jesus Christ avoid it like the plague as well.

11 thoughts on “Interfaith Circus Anybody?”

  1. Interesting item, well written and presented and it shows a problem if not a schism in what is Christian values.

    The argument is that there should be good relations and fellowship between Christians and Muslims (this writer would obviously have nothing in common and disagree with practically everything with the blog-owner, that is clear) but at the same time there is an argument that any such solidarity and spiritual support and prayer with Muslims should be based on the idea that it is showing Muslims to embrace Muslims into accepting Christianity.

    I am certain that there would be hundreds of thousands of Muslims that would think the exact same – in reverse.

    There is, for my part, a great and serious flaw with this view and I am happy that this writer has the self-respect (unlike some) to admit that there are many (if not most) who disagree and simply stating that they think or “hope that all serious followers of Jesus Christ avoid it like the plague as well.”

    This flaw is in fact two-fold. The first being that to “sell” one’s religion implies automatically that they have a lack of confidence in their own faith and that it is not strong-enough to survive on its own.

    The second flaw is an in-built arrogance and creates a superiority concept that automatically does not accept that there are other beliefs in the world around us. It is by definition separatist, exclusiviness and chauvenistic in concept. We can go as far as to say that this concept has been trained into the psychi of many and the chauvensim and arrogance of western politics is based on this.

    I certainly will say that there are many, many Muslims whom suffer this and radicalism has certainly embraced this attitude, but it is also as certainly not exclusively within Muslim ultra-conservatism, as proven by this above item.

    We can be thankful that the majority in all these religouns do not embrace the above form of danger and that there are people who can see through this arrogance and in fact seek harmony and fellowship.

    1. Solker sez:

      Mohammedanism has an in-built arrogance and creates a superiority concept that automatically does not accept that there are other beliefs in the world around us. It is by definition separatist, exclusiviness and chauvenistic in concept. We can go as far as to say that this concept has been trained into the psychi of many and the chauvensim and arrogance of mohammedan politics is based on this.

      Sheik sez: couldn’t agree more…

      “there are people who can see through this arrogance and in fact seek harmony and fellowship.”

      Perhaps, but not the Mohammedans, for they have ulterior motives…

  2. Note readers that he has changed the text and says he quoted me, he has not. Thus he is again, a liar.

    If your not going to be serious blog-owner and alter quotes then what is the point of trying to believe that anyone else will take you serious.

    Changing words in a quote is not just pathetic but a confirmation that you lie and will doctor-text to make your argument – thus it is an admission that you are not confident enough to stand by your own words.

    In fact what you have done is not just change the texts of words but have actually, again, avoided making any response and have avoided debate.

    1. Solkie upset:

      “Changing words in a quote is not just pathetic but a confirmation that you lie…”

      You been lying ever since you first posted on this blog, Solker. What makes you think we suffer from a learning disability and that we can’t do the same?

      Besides, you knew all along that this is a satirical blog. If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen…

  3. First of all it will never work.
    Muslims consider Christianity idol worship because of the cross and the statues of the virgin Mary. They cannot accept Jews or Christians until they convert to Islam, plain and simple. There is no tolerance.
    This is what Islam says about non-believers…

    Quran Sura [1:88] “Has the narration reached you of the overwhelming (calamity)? Some faces (all disbelievers, Jews and Christians) that Day, will be humiliated, downcast, scorched by the burning fire, while they are made to drink from a boiling hot spring.”

    Sura [4:60] “We reject you. Hostility and hate have come between us forever, unless you believe in Allah only.'”

    Sura [ 5:51] “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends.”

    Qur’an Sura [9:4] If the idol worshipers sign a peace treaty with you, and do not violate it, nor band together with others against you, you shall fulfill your treaty with them until the expiration date. GOD loves the righteous.

    Sura [9:5] Once the Sacred Months are past, (and they refuse to make peace) you may kill the idol worshipers when you encounter them, punish them, and resist every move they make. If they repent and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), you shall let them go. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

    Sura [4: 47] “So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.”

    Bukhari:V5B59N727 “When Allah’s Apostle became seriously sick, he started covering his face with a woolen sheet. When he felt short of breath, he removed it, and said, ‘That is so! Allah’s curse be on Jews and Christians.'”

    There are many more Suras and Hadiths that apply to this “Chrislam” project, or should I refer to it as “Christ-Slam”, because that is what they are basically doing…slamming Christ. “Oh you of little faith!”

  4. People will have a choice between Jesus Christ, and Antichrist, together
    with the religious “harlot” system that will rise to power together with
    A/C. The religious system, and its fate, are described in Revelation 17
    and 18.

    As Solkhar puts it “hope that all serious followers of Jesus Christ avoid it like the plague as well.”

    As the Revelation of Jesus Christ puts it: “I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues” (Revelation 18:4)

    This harlot religion will be destroyed by the very Antichrist it fawns
    all over.

    War, Solkhar, war.

  5. “The heart of the Christian truth claim is that Jesus is God’s son, and he has come to save us from our sins. Islam claims that it is blasphemous to say God has a son.”

    This is some of what Jesus Christ had to say on the subject:

    (John 10)
    22Then came the Feast of Dedication[b] at Jerusalem. It was winter, 23and Jesus was in the temple area walking in Solomon’s Colonnade. 24The Jews gathered around him, saying, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ,[c] tell us plainly.”

    25Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The miracles I do in my Father’s name speak for me, 26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[d]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”

    Muslims deny that Jesus Christ is the Son of God; deny that He was
    crucified, and some even deny that Jerusalem was Jewish, or that
    the Temple existed. They blaspheme, and are doomed, unless they
    change their minds.

  6. Yes that is right, I forgot that your not actually serious in your condemnation of Islam, belief in a Jihad and your hate.

    Thanks for the confirmation.

  7. Solker sez:

    ” I forgot that your not actually serious in your condemnation of Islam, belief in a Jihad and your hate.”

    My hate? Inverted reality and a clear case of projection on your part, Solkie.

    I don’t hate, I care.

    I care for the future of OUR society, our culture and civilization, the birthright of our kids and freedom from political oppression and religion.

    Mohammedanism is diametrically opposed to all of the above and wants me dead or forcibly converted.

    You indoctrinate your children with hate, you suck the hatred in with the mothers milk and then you accuse us of what you are?

    I wonder sometimes if you people even begin to understand how twisted and deranged the Mohammedan psyche is….

  8. ‘Building Bridges” with the Musulman

    Lets built bridges, you infidels! So that we Muslims can blow them up:

    Build those bridges. Every Infidel a pontifex maximus, a relentless roebling, building building building those bridges.

    Muslims feel “isolated.” Muslims feel “unwanted.” Muslims feel “unloved.” That’s why they do what they do in southern Thailand, and the southern Philippines. That’s why they decaptiate Christian schoolgirls in Indonesia, attack Christan churches in Alexandria, or Baghdad, kill Hindus in Bangladesh and drive millions of them out, why the Taliban, those hyper-Muslims, forced Hindus in Afghanistan to wear yellow identifying robes, why they felt compelled to blow up the Bamiyan Buddhas, or destory churches in Gaza, or drive even “Palestinian” Christians out of Bethlehem. It’s why death threats were made against Danish tourists, unless and until the editors of Jyllands-Posten were punished for daring to publish a handful of anodyne cartoons. That’s why bombs went off in Atocha Station in Madrid, on the Underground in London, why a Moscow theatre was seized, why Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh were murdered.

    “Not integrated.” “Unwanted.” “Unloved.” Prove, Infidels, the contrary. Do everything you can to integrate those Muslims. Lavish every possible program on them — language, culture, all the things that no other group of immigrants appears to need, lest members of that group start hating those among whom they live. Provide every conceivable benefit: education, health care, subsidized housing, all far beyond what those hundreds of thousands, say, of Somalis now living in this country could ever have dreamed of at home, living in Muslim Misrule, Muslim
    Malgoverno. Pile it on. Dedicate, re-dedicate those mosques. Do whatever it takes. Don’t say a word against Islam, don’t even hint at it. Always and everywhere denounce those who beg to point out this or that disturbing feature of Islam. Shout them down. Censor their websites. Banish those “hate-mongers” to the outer darkness.
    Keep it up.

    Bridges. Build. Greater. To. Understanding.


    Make Muslims Happy To Be Here.

    * Building drawbridges might be a better idea, no?

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