Maldives Muslims Marry 9-Year Old Girls

But not to worry, they’re only a tiny minority of extremists and it has nothing to do with Islam. Just wondering: where did they get such ideas?

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Police investigating reports of illegal under-age marriage

Maryam Omidi/Minivan News

Police raided a house on Laamu atoll Fonadhoo today following reports of an illegal marriage involving a girl around nine years of age.

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Sergeant Ahmed Shiyam confirmed the police raid but said he was unable to provide further details at this stage of the investigation.

Speaking to Minivan News today, Fathimath Yumna, director of the department of gender, said the ministry of health and family had also been unable to confirm reports about the illegal marriage.

While the national age of marriage is 18 in the Maldives, as a Muslim country, girls under this age can marry with the permission of their parents and state consent.

Yumna said if a minor wished to marry, the ministry would undertake an assessment to ensure the physical and mental well-being of the child. But, she added most applications were from girls aged 16 to 18.

“It’s a minority of religious groups but they are coming up presently,” she said. “We do have such issues and we are trying to raise awareness.”

She said the alleged marriage had not been registered with the courts and if reports were true, the girl may have married in a private ceremony.

Fonadhoo Island Chief Ahmed Yousuf said the office had not received an official report about the marriage, but he had heard rumours about a man on the island with “extremist” views wedded to a young girl.

“The man was a former magistrate who quit the government saying its revenue was haram because of alcohol and pork. He was also involved in the Himandhoo incident,” he said.

Himandhoo became notorious as a hotbed of extremism after video footage shot in an illegal mosque on the island was found on an al-Qaeda internet forum in 2007.

The  same year, the island was in the media spotlight after locals armed with home-made weapons clashed with over 200 riot police searching for two suspects in the Sultan Park bombing.

Yousuf added the man did not send his children to school or allow them to pray at any of the island’s mosques.

Last week, President Mohamed Nasheed called for an investigation into reports about under-age concubines being kept by religious extremists in the Maldives.

While police, the Human Rights Commission Maldives and the ministry of health had all received several reports of under-age girls being used for sex, none have been able to confirm the identities of those involved.

According to the reports received by these institutions, a young girl taken to Indira Gandhi Memorial Hospital by an older woman in July was discovered to have been sexually abused. When questioned, the woman said her husband had sex with the girl when she was menstruating.

Yumna said if the reports are confirmed, the ministry would strive to counter the religious beliefs behind concubinage in collaboration with the ministry of Islamic affairs.

Speaking to Minivan News last week, Sheikh Mohamed Shaheem Ali Saeed said Islam prohibited the abuse of women. He added keeping concubines was part of Arab culture which was eradicated with the advent of Islam.

55 thoughts on “Maldives Muslims Marry 9-Year Old Girls”

  1. Meanwhile, the bastion of islamic love and tolerance reaps what it sows:

    ( news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-09/23/content_12098838 )
    Maldives president pleads for climate action
    UNITED NATIONS, Sept. 22 (Xinhua) — In an emotional speech, President of the Maldives Mohamed Nasheed told world leaders on Tuesday that his country’s fate depends on their ability to stop the political bickering and come to an agreement on global warming.

    “If things go business as usual, we will not live,” he said at the UN climate summit. “We will die. Our country will not exist.” …

    Time to rethink submitting to “allah” and blaspheming against God,
    perhaps? “allah” and his false prophet won’t help you.

  2. Strange, if it was real and typical Islam, it posses the question – then why is the police investigating? Yes barbaric, unecceptable acts are happening and the authorities are cracking down. Of course if you are a Kahanist with an agenda to demonize Islam then you will ignore that.

  3. Solkhar,
    You still dont get it… Since it is islam that sanction schild marriage (Am I right? or may it making this up) , then why on earth does it bother you if someone goes to the source of such child sexual predation?

    It does not matter if one is a Kahanist, Bahai, apostate, christain or simply a mamal when one debunk islam.. you are simply avoiding the truth and you live in denial…. you cannot have it both ways… Your argument that cracking down on these practices in the Maldives is an indication of clearing the moral consciense of the “religion of peace” from its deranged rituals is simply naive and stupid.

  4. No Sammish your not right. Islam does not sanction child marriage or child abuse.

    Islam reflected what was society then and still in many places on this earth of marraiges for young ladies at the age of around 15 or 16 and if you in fact go to sub-saharan, Asian, other african or central and southern american countries and tell a girl at the age of around that age that she is not allowed to get married and she is to young she will faint in dispare because her life span is probably already half way over.

    Radicals and western blogers like to think there is no debate in Islam but hard evidence (ie historical and scientific) have shown that the comment on the age of Aisha (which is not in the Qur’an but mentioned in Bukhari) that she was 6-7 when betrothed and then 9-10 when the marriage was consumated. This has been clearly disproved in a number of well presented papers but due to the radical nature of the last 30 years, has not been formally debated in the main Schools of Jurispudence. The dates were worked out by the main contradiction that it was impossible for her to have been at that age since she was born before the hijra and at a minimum she would have been 10 at the betrothal and 14 at the marraige which would have coincided with the common practice of that time. Even in the Bukhari references about quoting Aisha herself, she says she was that age and then recanted later that she did not know and that “I do not remember dates very well”.

    Thus, your statements refer to the abuse of a mistake that falls also in line with radical tribal practices, such as the burqa and even the veil that are not at all Qur’anic.

    1. Spin, spin spin….

      “Radicals and western blogers like to think there is no debate in Islam”-

      there isn’t, solkie. There is no “hard evidence” either to disprove Bukhari or Aisha or Abu Dawoud.

      What there is is denial and BS from self appointed snitches like yourself who are trying to defend Islam from scrutiny and exposure.

      The “real problem” is Islamically sanctioned pedophilia, and until it is clearly discussed and REMOVED from the hadith it will be the true believers who practice it until Islam itself is abolished.

      You obviously have a problem with that because you refuse to criticize the practice, go into spinning mode and blame “Radicals and western blogers” instead.

      No thank you.

      “the burqa and even the veil that are not at all Qur’anic”- and yet each and every hijabbed muslimah I asked when I was in Malaysia last year assured me that it was.

      They must all be misunderstanders. Only Solker is the unrivalled koranic expert who cooks his own private Islam. What does that tell us?

  5. The only Shane Warne I see on the net is the “Shane Keith Warne (born 13 September 1969) is a former Australian international cricketer widely regarded as the greatest leg spin bowler in the history of the game.”

    Not into Cricket, my brothe tried to introduce me but it is way to long and slow. It is also followed back home in and watched a game in Leiden but again, nothing like a good game of football, now that is in my blood.

  6. Solkhar the spinmeister wrote “Not into Cricket”

    Maybe not, but spin is your speciality. Pretty good on blasphemy too.

  7. Sorry, Solhar you can tell your stories about islam not sanctioning child marriage but not to me…. inf fact, Al-Azhar turban wearing immams will tell you otherwise that it is hallal? to marry a child of 9 years of age… You are still trying to pull all your lies and deceptive discursive tactics by referring to Bukhari and Aisha and all those sandy arabian myth heros of your yours.

    I am not sure if your views that Islam’s practice of child marriage (sexual abuse of minor) are historically specific, which to say that that do not really account for the current practices… I cannot but wonder why dont the muslims forgo such practices? Are there really other factors at play? then where are these explanations when 95.9% (for fear of saying 99.9%) of people who practice it are muslims.

  8. Solkhar,
    The problem is not your interpretation of Islam – the problem is that other nasty interpretations exist – logically this means that the problem is islam itself. Until this is corrected the problem we allude to in our emails will simply get worse. This is where muslims need to spend some energy.

  9. Hey Solkher who performed the marriage ceremony an Imam I expect. Case CLOSED Islam supports child brides . BTW Islam also supports ‘TEMPORARY MARRIAGE’ otherwise known as ‘Islamic sponsored PROSTITUTION’. The Imam is just involved to confirm the Mohammedan HYPOCRISY.

  10. According to extremely misguided and Islamo ignorant Solkher
    Islam does not support violence . BUT THEY DO IT.
    Islam does not support barbaric Shariah punishments. BUT THEY DO IT
    Islam goes not support paedophilic child brides. BUT THEY DO IT.
    Islam does not support Terrorism. BUT THEY DO IT.
    Islam does not support the Burkha. BUT THEY WEAR IT
    Islam does not support misogyny. BUT THEY PRACTICE IT
    Islam is not antisemitic. DONT MAKE ME LAUGH
    Islam is the one true religion. WHAT THE KRAP KRAN NONSENSE WRITTEN BY A 7th CENTURY PAEDOPHILIC WARLORD. LOL

  11. Just for you Solkher her are the questions you have been RUNNING AWAY FROM. Now you have no excuses for not seeing them.
    These are just SOME of the things the Solkher cannot answer.

    1) Is the Krap Kran the actual unalterable word of God or a History
    Book. It has to be one or the other you cant keep changing it to suit your arguments.

    2) Why punish Gays in this life but give them ‘Pearly Boys’ in the “knocking shop in the sky’

    3) What sort of nasty, evil, illogical,sadistic god is it that creates people simply to punish them in hellfire so explain Predestination, Freewill and Mind sealing without tying your self in illogical knots?

    4) Why did allah who supposedly created the earth not know it was a globe so that when he gave instructions for fasting he ONLY talked about DAWN and DUSK completely ignoring the fact that day/night time in Polar and NEAR Polar regions is completely at odds with such a SIMPLISTIC instruction? If here is no Koranic reference then allah truly did not know.

    5) You say some Krap Kran verses are allegorical and some literal. so please give us the definitive list of which is which or do you and other Mohammedans just make it up when allah gets caught out. If there is no list who decides which is which surely a mere man cannot judge God’s words? If you cant tell us then this excuse goes up in flames.

    6) So Sulkher do you think the fact that the BARBARIC Shariah Law is not in force in ALL Islamic countries is a good thing or a bad thing.

    7) Please also tell us how you can reform the ‘ACTUAL UNALTERABLE word ‘ of your so called God?

    *) It temporary Marriage is not PROSTITUTION what other EXCUSES have you got for it, We need a laugh.

    9) Why should Jews give up land when they have less than 20% of the Mandate of Palestine and the Mohammedan ARAB invaders already have 80% and TWO States Syria and Jordan.

    10) Why do you call tem Palestinians when such a country does not and never has existed so you cant be a citizen of it nor a refugee from it and it cant be occupied. They are just ARAB invaders.

    11) Why do Mohammedans constantly run and hide behind the ancient ambiguous Arabic dialect in which the Krap Kran is written if it cant be accurately translated then it CANT be as it claims for itself to be’clear and easily understood ‘ and ‘for al men for all time’ can it? Up to you to explain why it makes this claim and Mohammed ans then hide behind Arabic when they have a problem.

    You evasion or inability to answer will tell us all we need to know about you and Islam. This is posted here together so you cant deny seeing it.

    Look out for more Diversion, Taqqiya or as usual the Mohammedan RUN AWAY from the troll.

    BTW just posting a reply is not debunking if that reply is like your usual ones simply more Mohammedan propaganda and not really a response at all. If your responses are not referenced to actual truth and logic they will be treated as normal Mohammedan BS. Also we dont accept YOUR FAITH in Islam being true as an answer either we need PROOF.

  12. I find it totally unfair that we are all ganging up against solkhar.

    We are totally missing the point of discussing the point. But while replying to him we are diverting to other issues that totally drain our brain power.

    Im fine if you play solkhar’s game, but Im not going to participate. Lets stick to the point & create an intelligent debate.

    My sincere 2 cents.

    There are no such things called radicals, islamophobia or extremist. It is one points view against another. Ask another muslim about the other & they label each other radicals or what not. This has got to end. One way or another, 50% of the muslims will call the other radicals. Sigh.

    If we were to dissect this problem. We need to discuss like men & leave religion & god aside. Take on the bull by its horns & dont defend anything, but be objective & true to the point. Theres no harm or shame to win or loose. Just as long as you do it like a man.

    1. tjwork sez:

      “I find it totally unfair that we are all ganging up against solkhar.

      We are totally missing the point of discussing the point. But while replying to him we are diverting to other issues that totally drain our brain power.”

      The general rule is ‘don’t feed the trolls’- however, solker was never invited to post here and as a result nobody here made it easy for him to get away with his lies.

      That is not a question of fairness, since mohammedans never play fair, as you can see here.

      Finally, the inevitable meltdown…

  13. “There are no such things called radicals, islamophobia or extremist.”

    Nor moderate, it’s dar al islam verses dar al Harab, enslavement verses Freedom, despotism verses Liberty…

    One must always keep in mind that solkar has nothing constructive to offer, absolutely nothing…

  14. tjwork that is the problem with Islam it is so woolly so illdefined so contradictory that anyone can draw whatever conclusions they wish from it. Throw in abrogation and allegory and you will see why Islam and its idiotic defenders tie themselves in knots all the time yet remain totally convinced they are correct. So much for a self proclaimed ‘clear and easily understood ‘ book for ‘all men for all time’ yet in over 1400 years there is not ONE universally approved translation. If it cant be translated without dissension then it is absolutely USELESS for mankind and cannot possibly be divine .

  15. realist,

    the problem is the process that started from 13-19 years after muhammad died, this was not spiritually motivated, but politically. The process was a pick & choose technique that favors the caliph. It was not organized in chronological order.

    from here, everything else follow suit. Every muslim ruler subjugates its people by what he wants from it, & notice something, every muslim under his ruler ship must accept the translation or final word of the meaning of any verse by the selcted group of scholars, One could not interpret it by himself.

    So, the law is sharia, but no one that challenges it could win. Making it a completely useless justice platform. when i mean useless, its specifically means an individual is nothing, the ruler is everything. Whatever he says or challenges is not valid unless the ruler says so.

    This is the real reason why people dislike the sharia.

    I have to say that sharia is borrowed from judasim and Christianity. Some violent passages are exactly the same in the old testement.

    The only difference is that unlike the sharia law, the non muslims could challenge the law & win.

  16. “I have to say that sharia is borrowed from judasim and Christianity. Some violent passages are exactly the same in the old testement”

    Christianity? I though Christianity teaches to do unto others what you’d like them to do unto you, love your enemies and turn the other cheek! I think I’ve read somewhere else that Christians don’t follow the old testament since Jesus brought a new one, they don’t circumcise their sons for that matter.

  17. How could mohammedans not like Sharia, they can have up to 4 wives, marry 6 y/o girls and under provided it’s only intercrural sex, temporarily marriage whores, loot, rape and kill the infidels? Besides they would go to the Jannah bordello were they can also have gay sex, get pissed and stoned.

  18. Sheik: I totally agree, but hey, do all of us need to take him? Just dont feed it. Just my 2 cents 🙂

    odiolosputosmoros:
    Please read the old testement, its pretty strange. But if you classify verse by verse, you will find more verses of violence in the koran & hadith than the bible, but I woudnt rule out violent passages in the judaim & christianity books.

    i disagree on the part where jesus brings in new teachings hence the old ones are forgotten, the old ones are renewed but not forgotten, jesus only put in perspective, & he did a fantastic job, but oddly enough I think he grew tired of some of the bad guys & mentioned the lake of fire.

    my point is therefore, jews & christians freed themselves from the oppressiveness that plagued them because they knew the fate would be the same as the dark ages by challenging.

    This is not done & almost impossible to win in the sharia. The muslims are victims of the religious rule. The side effect to this is that IF THEY CANT GET FREEDOM, OTHERS MUST NOT TOO.

    Its a mind game. This subject is expressed in many disciplines.

    The easiest way to corrupt someone is to tell them that anyone that does not agree with you is wrong. This technique is used by the islamic rulers over & over again.

  19. tjworks the main and overwhelming difference is tet the Jewish and Christain boks are DESCRIPTIVE whereas the Krap Kran is PRESCRIPTIVE. Also the Jewish and Christian books make no claim to being the ‘ACTUAL UNALTERABLE’ word of God as does the Krap Kran so every mistake every contradiction every illogical statement is ALL Gods work. No wonder the Mohammedans fight so hard to maintain the pretense that it is perfect and was not all just INVENTED by the antisemitic, paedophilic, lying, murdering, thief and warlord Old Mo the megalomaniacal narcissist.

  20. tjwork,

    As I mentioned to you and to kaw – the only two posters without agendas and game play that I will dish out as much as is given. My own agenda is clear and that is I certainly will provoke radicals to learn their motives and (il)logical process – it is a project of mine.

    I certainly agree and support the view that you mentioned above, much of the subject of religion is that of faith, history, culture and politics. What I never do is defend the actions of individual Muslims but I certainly do defend my faith. I will stand by my view – and I am not alone, that the Qur’an is the word of God/Allah/Jehovah – whichever language you wish and the rest is man-made. It is this man-made that is the problem and you correctly attuned to it – straight after the death of the Prophet. I also believe that it happened after the death of Jesus/Issa as well.

    Frankly speaking, what I do is a sift through the crud on this blog, note the agenda-based and political BS and point it out and what the hair stand on the back of the blog-owner, the flatulants of “realist” and if the very sad religious-flea-market selling of a fundamentalist/evangalist.

    My time on this blog is almost over, the way-to-long summer vaction period with an added Ramadan made for not much work and that is over. I had a foot-operation on my right heal that also for a while put me sitting down that is not my habit. It is interesting that the movement of terrorism funding also stopped for that period but it has already started and so I am back to my constant travelling habits, now being in Algeria.

    So you will not see much more of me which I am sure the blog-owner is delighted with. I will post on my own blog a summary of what I pulled out and exposed and maybe time and time again I will jump in. You perhaps have a few more days of me.

    Now, for Realist, since I promissed and the poor whinging Pom is probably telling people in his hotel-bar that he frequents somewhere in Asia that I avoid and run-away….. against what I do not know…. I will answer his rather predictable and evidence-of-ignorance that he shows.

    ….

    1) I do not use the phrase “unalterable word of God” but it certainly was a divine message and an important History
    Book. It certainly can be both and it is.

    2) Islam certainly is apposed to homosexuality as being unnatural and against God’s will. Many Muslims believe that the language used describing the afterlife was the only way possible to allow for those people at that time to understand it. Apparantly, you along with ultra-conservatives cannot grasp that.

    It should also be pointed out that in another thread you used pretty vulgar and insulting words about “gays” so what is your basis and justifications?

    3) Strange, both Christianity and Judaism also believe in “nasty, evil, illogical,sadistic god is it that creates people simply to punish them in hellfire”. Go complain to them as well.

    4) Since man does not live in the pole why should it matter. Since it is you and a bunch of other fanatics that must take things literally and with no concept of context, your always going to travel this world with unanswered questions. Your the one who asked before the very ignorant question on why should people fast? Are you not married to a Muslim? That people fast to remind themselves about the harshness and suffering that much of humanity still goes through is a noble thing, for my part.

    5) Aprantly it is only you and again other radicals that have this problem of not understanding which is which. Most Muslims do understand what is references to the events and also learn from them and those that are clear messages. When much of the versus and texts talk about an event, it is an event, when the Qur’an says “God loveth not the Agressor” or “God loveth not the Oppressor”, it does not take much intelligence to know that is not only a message but an instruction.

    6) I do not support Shari’a law at all, never have and never will. It is in fact irrelavent and was a creation of haddiths, probably at the time of writing to have a codified legal system that did not exist. That most Muslim countries do not have it explains much and also that of those that have it, the majority of them use it only for family law.

    As the Grand Sheik and head of Al Quarouin (like Al Azhar but here in Fez) said, he finds no reason to require a Shari’a theological legal system if a country reflects all the principles that are inscribed in the Qur’an.

    7) If one’s faith is based on a Book/Message and it is in the original text, obviously changing the text is out of the question. That question is what needs to be reformed. It is the interpretations, the guides and actions of man that needs reform. For my part that means the value of the Haddiths and what they “think” is Sunnah. My view is common within the academic field in Islam and was already put into textual form as far back as the time of Ibn Sina.

    8) Temporary Marraige is not inshrined in the Qur’an and is reflection of 7th century tribal customs. It is a perfect example of how tribal customs entered into the haddiths, perhaps on purpose or not, and how radicals love to make maximum from it.

    9) ARABs were not invaders, mandates mean little when no one follows them anyhow and intelligent people look at realities on the ground first.

    10) Your political questions regarding your myth of “ARAB invaders” is moot, they are there, history also shows they were there and if you wish to say God gave Israel to the Jews then we can all just be ready for a Jewish-inspired war.

    11) There is no hiding, and there is no translation problem. The Arabic of the Qur’an is there on the every legitimate copy. Not sure why you are asking this question. Since the original text is there, how can there be a problem or something to hide?

    So we know the originality is there, it is the language translations that have to be careful and there are three English versions that are generally accepted and two in French, Nederlands and Deutsche.

    If Muslims say something is lost in the translation, I will be the first to argue with them, but now having learnt to read and write Arabic I will only say tha the poetic flow is not seen in it, that is all.

    Of course if you read a Qur’an that does not have the Othmani text in it, it is not a guarenteed true copy and if the language translation does not have a sanctioning as being correct, then you have not a Qur’an.

  21. Solkhar wrote…..”the Qur’an says “God loveth not the Agressor” or “God loveth not the Oppressor”, it does not take much intelligence to know that is not only a message but an instruction.”

    Given the chance, what percentage of Muslims wouldn’t try to dominate Non-Muslims into submitting to Mo? Percentage would be pretty darn low. Since Mo was (OBVIOUSLY) one of these Agressor-Oppressor types, wouldn’t that mean God doesn’t love him?

    1. Solker sez:

      “”the Qur’an says “God loveth not the Agressor” or “God loveth not the Oppressor”, it does not take much intelligence to know that is not only a message but an instruction.”

      Sounds more like a warning to unbelievers since muslims are the masters of the universe and by allah entitled to rule over us. Only infidels can be aggressors or oppressors, so in their universe it means don’t resist Islam or else…

  22. a man on the island with “extremist” views wedded to a young girl.
    “The man was a former magistrate who quit the government saying its revenue was haram because of alcohol and pork.

    I wonder where these extremist views came from.
    Mo’s “excellent example” maybe.

  23. solkhar,

    a worthy enemy is a gift of god.

    as much as im gonna miss arguing with you, im sure you wont be missed by many.

    hope you have a good time in your blog. take care

  24. realist

    the old testement was written in a way that it does not matter if its prescriptive or descriptive, much like old hebrew without any vowels. its just the way its written.

    but i get what you mean, you make an absolutely valid point.

    then again, its not what you read or what you have, but its what you do with it.

    a mad man could write in a paper, rob & kill all muslims, another man could read it, but choose not to do it. he would only be tempted to do when he was instigated. and only a fool with a weak mind would be easily instigated.

    many muslims dont know this but the old arabic shares the same way as the old aramic & hebrew, hence its either prescriptive or descriptive depending to the interpreter.

    since islam came after christianity etc, they who wrote it has a better chance to counter the issues & tackle christianity because the bible had stopped there.

    tomorrow, anyone could create a similar text like the koran & call themselves the last prophet & do the same thing over again. the whole shit starts all over again.

    it looks like peace is only achieved when A, B & C, A says to B, If you Attack C, I will attack you. – in the case of threats.

    islams point of view is to be strong and unopposed & when in power, they could instill peace. but the greed of humans will plague any nation, even the muslims & human kind will fall no matter how united they are with a religion.

  25. Solkhar, the one thing that shines out like a new penny (in a mound of poo) is that Muslims want their cake, n’ eat it too.

  26. Solkhar the ex-Dutch diplomat wrote “poor whinging Pom”

    Unusual expression for someone whose first language is not English,
    and who was not raised in Australia.

    Who are you, Solkhar, and who do you serve? (apart from satan / allah)

  27. Presuming that the blog-owner is Jewish, he along with the fundamentalist/evangalist are obliged to believe that God is the Master of the Universe and Rules us all.

    Thus the strange and incoherent statement “Only infidels can be aggressors or oppressors, so in their universe it means don’t resist Islam or else…” certainly does not stick.

    There are certainly many, many bad Muslims whom are abusing God’s laws and are certainly the main threat and danger to us all in this present world we live in. Never denied that. But we share the same “universe” with God’s rules and conditions.

    As for wanting their cake and eating it too, though I am not and never will be anti-Jewish, the religio-Zionists – radicals as they are fit that bill, always abusing the “we are a nation, a race and a religion” and making sure that the world knows it, that they can benefit from it and as a justification for their demands, in the face of the fact that no one else is allowed to.

  28. Personally, I preferred the “impostor” Solkhar – he / she was a breath
    of fresh air and honesty compared to the lying blasphemous shape-shifter that normally posts under that handle.

  29. Solkhar the blasphemer and rejecter of God’s rules and conditions wrote “Never denied that. But we share the same “universe” with God’s rules and conditions.”

    Yes, Solkhar, but if you reject God’s rules and conditions, like the false prophet before you, you will end up with him in the lake of fire. Up to
    you Solkhar – accept, or reject. No vacuuming, shape-shifting or antics
    in allah’s house of mirrors needed – just accept, or reject.

  30. You can smell it and then you fail to grasp that your the only one there.

    Using the anti-Jew excuse is old, an excuse that has been over used and frankly speaking is waring very thin. In the end all the nations in the world will reject any annexation of the Palestinian Arab West Bank, Gaza and Hebron and your meek claims that it is anti-Semitic is not goign to stick because most intelligent, God-fearing pious and peace loving Jews will agree not with you.

    You are still welcome in Marrakech, and for me to show you that 323 year old Synagogue and I will make a point on my return to there next week to go visit the place and tell them that you might be coming. I will not, obviously embarass him with refering to your website nor Kahane radicalism.

    1. Thanks but no thanks, solker. I will pass on that invitation to Marrakech.

      Btw: did they find the body of that non fasting journalist yet? Would it please you to know she is dead?

      “God-fearing pious and peace loving Jews will agree not with you.”

      Apart from Ahmadinejads Neturai Karta nutters I know quite a few “God-fearing pious and peace loving Jews” who support me and my views, don’t worry about that, solker boy.

  31. * In the end all the nations in the world will reject any annexation of the Palestinian Arab West Bank, Gaza and Hebron

    Really Solkhar … all the nations of the world – reject, and do what?

    This is what the prophet of God, Zechariah, had to say about the
    nations of the world rejecting Israel and seeking to destroy it.

    “On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves.” (Zechariah 12:3)

    Armageddon, Solkhar.

  32. * because most intelligent, God-fearing pious and peace loving Jews will agree not with you.

    You do this a lot Solkhar – project onto other groups – but what, to you,
    are “God-fearing pious and peace loving Jews”? Define them, via your
    foul and blasphemous koran – do a quick shape-shift for allah – roll
    in glitter one more time.

  33. That is, according to muslims, only infidels can be aggressors or oppressors, so in their universe it means don’t resist islam or else.
    There’s no sharing a universe with a backward demented people who focus all their attention bowing towards a rock in the desert. Sharia law and laws derived from Judea-Christian law are diametrically opposed to each other, Sharia represents punishment, our law represents justice and an opportunity for rehabilitation. And what an amazing and uncanny ability the babbler has in stating the obvious when referring to the same conditions we all live in, well duh, except the bone head almost Neanderthal muslims prefer being frozen in a 7th century mindset. The radicals as our driveling concealer calls them are in fact devout muslims following the example of their slave trading rapist…

  34. As far as I am aware, Zineb El-Rahzoui is probably back in France or with family in Morocco waiting for the rumours to fly even more and then she will appear and say something scandalous to increase her public profile. I have not seen any news to the contrary.

    Do I wish her dead? No, I have no feelings nor opinion about her other than I never appreciated her journalistic style or respect for decent reporting. If I hope anything, that she be expelled from the country for being a pathetic journalist with activities unbecoming a memer of the press.

  35. eloivsdiablo repeats the meaningless and illogical statement that “That is, according to muslims, only infidels can be aggressors or oppressors, so in their universe it means don’t resist islam or else.”

    It it not, does not say it and is basic BS. I guess it is agenda based make believe to somehow justify mindless rantings.

    The Qur’an referes simply to the instruction that Aggression and Oppression is unGodly and unacceptable and is a message if to anyone, is to the Muslims themselves. That they are breaking it has been showin throughout history including in the time of the Prophet and Mohammed set the example by being the most harshest with those Muslims that broke God’s instructions.

    So the statement is just trash talk.

    1. The same “trash talk” that comes from every hate preacher in the mosques from Gaza to Jeddah and from Timbuktu to Lakemba.

      Infidels are “oppressors and aggressors” and Muslims are religiously obliged to remove “man made” law with the sharia.

      The existence of unbelievers is “oppression” to muslims, and only unbelievers engage in “aggression” against muslims which forces the muslims to “defend themselves” against these “unjust” laws of the kuffar.

      Part of the ‘defensive jihad’, is it not, solker?

      But solker sez:

      “It it not, does not say it and is basic BS. I guess it is agenda based make believe to somehow justify mindless rantings.”

      Strangely, all of these Islamic terrorists that have been caught in the last couple of weeks display this understanding, so what does that tell me about you?

  36. Solky,I have noticed than you have invited the Sheik at Marrakech….But me…I have invited you many time at my Marvellous Pigs Farm,and you do not even reply to my invitation …. I even put aside a delicious Stew of Pig’s Legs for when you will come with 6 bottles of the finest French wines and Australians (Mullah cave).we are expecting you Soon,Me and the Pigs. xxx

  37. Sulka is muslim alright, thick as two short planks.
    Sulka wrote;
    “Presuming that the blog-owner is Jewish, he along with the fundamentalist/evangalist are obliged to believe that God is the Master of the Universe and Rules us all.
    Thus the strange and incoherent statement “Only infidels can be aggressors or oppressors, so in their universe it means don’t resist Islam or else…” certainly does not stick.

    You see I was clarifying the Sheiks statement that only infidels can be aggressors or oppressors, so in their universe it means don’t resist Islam or else…

    Sulka, you’re a defective, dim-witted degenerate, in short, you’re muslim…

  38. No, wrong as usual and “in other words” is twist-talk for your words, not mine.

    Islam hate monger – bad, radical Muslim – bad, terrorist – very bad.

    Your assumption that every Mosque says that infidels are this and that is also crap. Those radial ones, yes. Most Imams work on their Khudba talk for Friday prayers with a plan based on recent events but mostly on what anniversary in the Islamic calender is present. They will talk about “evil infidels” when for example the calender says it is the anniversary of the Battle of ……….. at the time of the Prophet and quote the Qur’an. Certainly, Arab Imams, especially those of Palestinian origin, will make remarks and “Al Qods Day” he will be acting out Arab Nationalism and for my part not doing his job.

    No, your trying to twist things is failing again.

  39. I can here the buzzing of the bee in eloivsdiablo’s bonnet. He made no sense yet again of course, trying to defend the missed plot with incoherent drivel.

    The blog-owner tried to imply the case that somehow the Qur’an and Islam states that only non-Muslims can do wrong and that was basic nonesense. eloivsdiablo tried to somehow and totally confused matters with “non-speak” and when I pointed that out this buzzing noise started getting louder……LMAO!

  40. good grief, I keep forgetting how delusional muslims can be. You’re making it up as you go along.
    The implication and the reality is muslims perpetrating their violence accuse their victims of oppression and aggression for simply refusing to accept islam, after all, persecution is worse than slaughter.
    This campaign you on here is going no where, you contradict yourself on nearly every post and I’m convinced now that you suffer from megalomania. There’s absolutely nothing special about you. We kafir have experienced the idiocy of muslims online whilst picking the eyeballs out of islam for nearly 10 years now. You’re on a fool’s errand…

  41. good grief, I keep forgetting how delusional muslims can be. You’re making it up as you go along…
    The implication and the reality is muslims perpetrating their violence accuse their victims of oppression and aggression for simply refusing to accept islam, after all, persecution is worse than slaughter.
    This campaign you’re on here is going no where, you contradict yourself on nearly every post and you’re megalomania. There’s absolutely nothing special about you. We kafir have experienced the idiocy of muslims online whilst picking the eyeballs out of islam for nearly 10 years now. You’re on a fool’s errand…

  42. This campaign you on here is going no where, if you’re not contradicting yourself your only input is smear, you’re basically a megalomaniac. There’s absolutely nothing special about you. I have experienced the idiocy of muslims online whilst picking the eyeballs out of islam for nearly 10 years now. You’re on a fool’s errand. The implication and the reality is muslims perpetrating their violence accuse their victims of oppression and aggression for simply refusing islam, that is the reality of the statement Sheik made…..

  43. This campaign you on here is going no where, if you’re not contradicting yourself then your only input is smear, you’re basically a megalomaniac thinking I’m flustered by your feeble attempts to debate with personal insults. There’s absolutely nothing special about you. I have experienced the idiocy of muslims online whilst picking the eyeballs out of islam for nearly 10 years now. You’re on a fool’s errand. The implication and the reality is muslims perpetrating their violence accuse their victims of oppression and aggression for simply refusing islam, that is the reality of the statement Sheik made…

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