Misunderstanders of Islam pass law mandating stoning for adultery

Robert Spencer:

They said they were going to do it, and now they have. Expect Honest Ibe Hooper and Brave Ahmed Rehab of CAIR, of maybe Salam al-Marayati of MPAC, or perhaps M. Cherif Bassiouni, distinguished emeritus yada yada, to make the trip out to Aceh forthwith to explain to the relevant authorities that they’re getting the Religion of Peace and Tolerance all wrong, wrong, wrong — for hey, the Koran doesn’t mandate stoning for adultery!

And indeed, it doesn’t. Find out why Muslims still believe that stoning is mandated by Allah in my new book The Complete Infidel’s Guide to the Koran.

Stoned to death

Sheik sez:

suicide bombing and female genital mutilation is also not in the Koran. Does that make it un-Islamic or is it, as our resident blog-troll would have us believe, cultural? But anyhow, our blog-troll also wants us to believe that “things are getting better” in Mohammedania, probably because he sees stoning as an improvement.

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“Aceh passes adultery stoning law,” from the BBC, September 14 (thanks to JW):

Indonesia’s province of Aceh has passed a new law making adultery punishable by stoning to death, a member of the province’s parliament has said.

The law was passed unanimously by Aceh’s regional legislature, said assembly member Bahrom Rasjid….Sharia law was partially introduced in Aceh in 2001, as part of a government offer to pacify separatist rebels….

Married people convicted of adultery can be sentenced to death by stoning. Unmarried people can be sentenced to 100 lashes with a cane.

The law also imposes severe sentences for rape, homosexuality, alcohol consumption and gambling.

13 thoughts on “Misunderstanders of Islam pass law mandating stoning for adultery”

  1. “………in my new book The Complete “. And there you have it! One of two confessions of Spencer. That he is there to sell books and since he is an academic failure and will not be selling to the academic community or that he is suppoted by his hated MSM (main stream media or basically everyone) that he must target the far-right which is financially enough for him.

    He also, talking about stoning confessed that “…the Koran doesn’t mandate stoning for adultery! …….. And indeed, it doesn’t. ”

    He simply (to sell copy) gives individual examples and somehow tries to twist, cut & paste various quotes and makes up items to say that it is Islam and the Qur’an itself that does this. Yet he stabs his arguments in the foot time and time again by small admissions because his main priority is not to be caught out with a direct statement that shows his phrase is a basic untruth or lie – no, he has learnt the gift of writing styles very well, almost lawyer-like to ensure there is a lot of “but, apparently, like and such as” in his texts.

    1. “he is there to sell books and since he is an academic failure”-

      dumb, ignorant smears. What else you got, Solker? You hate that Spencer is becoming more popular every day and that the truth can no longer be hidden. That, and nothing else, is your problem.

      Mohammed actually dared some Jews in his time to follow Allah’s law of stoning (Ar-Rajm) and those Jews did not want to follow through with the law on stoning, so Mohammed ordered the guilty man and woman to be stoned, and one of the Jews even tried to protect the victims with his own body shielding them from the stones the Muslims threw!

      Here are the hadiths in question:

      Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:

      The Jews came to Allah’s Apostle and told him that a man and a woman from amongst them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah’s Apostle said to them, “What do you find in the Torah (old Testament) about the legal punishment of Ar-Rajm (stoning)?” They replied, (But) we announce their crime and lash them.” Abdullah bin Salam said, “You are telling a lie; Torah contains the order of Rajm.” They brought and opened the Torah and one of them solaced his hand on the Verse of Rajm and read the verses preceding and following it. Abdullah bin Salam said to him, “Lift your hand.” When he lifted his hand, the Verse of Rajm was written there. They said, “Muhammad has told the truth; the Torah has the Verse of Rajm. The Prophet then gave the order that both of them should be stoned to death. (‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar said, “I saw the man leaning over the woman to shelter her from the stones.” — Bukhari 4.56.829

      And another hadith shows that Muslims from Mohammed forward considered stoning to be a divine law:

      Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:

      ‘Umar said, “I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, “We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book,” and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession.” Sufyan added, “I have memorized this narration in this way.” ‘Umar added, “Surely Allah’s Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him.” — Bukhari 8.82.816

      But hey: Solker, the paid Moroccan Islamo-troll will tell us its cultural and tribal, and none of it has anything to do with Islam. Right, Solkie?

  2. “And there you have it! One of two confessions of Spencer.”

    Who are you, Solkhar, and who do you serve? (apart from allah / satan
    and his false prophet)

  3. Solkhar who he/she is ?

    A muselman/-woman who is doing a little dawa …and a little lying and so on….
    ( you know, so ARE the muslims ! )

  4. Blog-owner, if you were the leader in a tribal society in the 7th century, what would you do, somehow imagine 21st century standars based on a 21st century society, standards and reality?

    You are talking about history and the only others that are following and judging values on that history are radicals. That makes you one.

    So is there nay instruction there that can be learned or read from this? Yes there is, adultery is a serious sin and it is a cancer that eats at family values.

    I am certain that in a tribal society in the 7th century, if values and harmony are lost to a tribe it could be the destruction of that community and thus it was even more serious. But then history is not your strong spot is it blog-owner?

    1. Solker sez:

      “You are talking about history and the only others that are following and judging values on that history are radicals. That makes you one”

      I regret I cannot follow your warped line of thoughts and I cannot allow you to make excuses for stoning adulterous women. The fact that I am determined to do what our forefathers have done to keep our society, culture and civilization free from the Mohammedan scourge makes me not a ‘radical’ but at best a conservative.

      Churchill knew Mohammedanism:

      The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property (either as a child, a wife, or a concubine) must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

      From the River War

  5. Hey Solkhar if we are to ignore 7th Century history and live in the 21st Century why do you keep on making excuses for the Krap Kran ‘the ACTUAL unalterable word of God’ and ‘for all men for all time’ by telling us its just a History Book when it suits YOUR purpose. BTW STILL waiting for you to answer why Evil Illogical Sadistic allah creates people with the sole purpose of punishing them and why Mohammedans punish homosexuals in this world and allah the HYPOCRITE provides them with Pearly Boys in paradise. You will lose lots of ‘hasnats’ if you dont defend your Evil allah .

  6. * But hey: Solker, the paid Moroccan Islamo-troll …

    It is hard to get the truth from Solkhar about who he is and who he serves, but that seems close to the bullseye. His employer quite possibly is the Moroccan Interior Ministry, which would have more in common with the KGB or Stasi than a government department as we might know it. Hence the snitching on Christians preaching the gospel to muslims and the like.

    Snitches, standover tactics, bully boys:

    Morocco: Spanish News Photographer Beaten By Interior Minister Auxiliaries Source : RSF 23.05.2008
    Reporters Without Borders condemns a physical attack by police auxiliaries on Rafael Marchante, a Spanish photographer employed by the British news agency Reuters, while he was covering a demonstration by jobless university graduates outside parliament in Rabat on 21 May.

    RABAT, Morocco (AP) — Authorities have expelled five Christian missionaries from Morocco on the grounds that they were illegally inciting Muslims to convert, the Interior Ministry said Sunday.

    Amazigh Moroccan Democratic Party
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Amzigh party was officially banned and declared illegal and solvable by a Moroccan court of justice in Rabat on the 17th of April 2008.[2] The illegality verdict was pronounced by the court after the law suit that was filed by the Moroccan interior ministry.

    The party demonstrates political right attitudes too, such as:
    * Defending the Moroccan Amazigh identity and language.
    * Rejection of all foreign identities and influences like pan-Arabism, Islamism, and the Francophonie.
    * Its positive and open attitude towards the US, Israel and the West.

    Moroccan court rejects TelQuel and Nichane appeal
    Blog: The View from Fez – 4 August 2009
    a court in Casablanca rejected the appeal by two Moroccan weekly news magazines, TelQuel and Nichane, against the interior ministry seizure and destruction 0f 100,000 copies of both weeklies for publishing the polls on the 10-year reign of King Mohammed VI.

    The “monarchy in Morocco cannot be the object of a debate, even by opinion poll,” Communications Minister Khalid Naciri said on Saturday, arguing that the two weeklies had “forgotten” this rule.

    And finally ( state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2001/nea/8277 )
    Morocco
    Country Reports on Human Rights Practices

    The security apparatus includes several overlapping police and paramilitary organizations. The Border Police and the National Security Police are departments of the Ministry of Interior; the Judicial Police falls under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Justice; and the Royal Gendarmerie reports to the Palace.

    Who are you, Solkhar, and who do you serve (apart from satan / allah and his false prophet)?

  7. Your correspondent solkwhore must have an awfully thick skin; he seems to be willing to soldier on day after day, being humiliated by
    shiekyermami and his most erudite colleagues on this and other
    reality-based blogs.
    I would suggest to him that he direct his fairy tales to the hippies, lefties and appeasers, who don’t need to be persuaded by facts, logic or reason.

  8. Blog-owner,

    I think we all know that Spencer did not write an important book, he just targetted a right-wing audience with the rhetoric they want to here so that he can sell it, or he is like you and has an agenda to justify the ethnic cleansing of the inhabitants of the West Bank.

    As for Churchill, we talked about this before and if you go back you will find that you avoided responding to the points I made (as you typically do) that if Churchill was currently PM he would say Islam and Muslim and be dealing with them as others do. He simply was representing the established collective 19th-early 20th century ignorance and xenophobia that existed. Remember that he represented King and Empire and Rule Britania. Your quoting Churchill is now as relevant as your usual quoting of 15th century figures – rather moot.

    As for stoning of adulterous women, I do not support it, I condemn it and it is in fact not done and illegal in the majority of Muslim countries, so your arguments are in fact also – rather moot.

    1. “He (Churchill) simply was representing the established collective 19th-early 20th century ignorance and xenophobia that existed.”

      I daresay that 800 to 900 million Mohammedans represent the collective fanatical frenzy, illiteracy and kuffar-hatred that exists in the dar al Islam since the 7th century…

  9. The evengalist must be really angry, embarassed and with his knickers in a very big twist! He spends his time attacking me personally, trying to convert me, abusing my faith and copious hours trying to find items and articles on Morocco to somehow use that to attack me.

    That certainly confirms the point that he is a person with in fact little or no real faith, confidence in his own beliefs and a rather banal attitude to life and morality. For a so-called Christian, he is certainly not being one.

    One interesting thing is that he surfs the web with the word Morocco and instantly thinks he knows or is an expert on something that he has shown absolutely a complete lack of knowledge or awareness of. I will enlighten him a little…..

    “Morocco: Spanish News Photographer Beaten By Interior Minister Auxiliaries Source : RSF 23.05.2008”
    Rafael Marchante got to close to a demonstration by jobless university graduates outside parliament in Rabat on 21 May and though warned to be careful ended up being trampled. Being the typical arrogant European in “a third word country” demanded recompense and when told that does not happen, through a tantrum and changed his story.

    “RABAT, Morocco (AP) — Authorities have expelled five Christian missionaries from Morocco on the grounds that they were illegally inciting Muslims to convert, the Interior Ministry said Sunday.”

    Yes, absolutely true, then they sent a diplomat from a scandinavian country back home for acts both illegal and unbecoming of a foreign representative. That person late was also punished by his own service and thus resigned.

    Amazigh Moroccan Democratic Party
    “The illegality verdict was pronounced by the court after the law suit that was filed by the Moroccan interior ministry.”

    The party was banned for having a portfolio of policies that was deemed as being against national unity. What was not shown is that it was one of a number of Amazigh majority parties and that it was the only one not interested in joining with the government in the creation of a national Amazigh policy and the creation of a dedicated Ministry and Cultural Authority. Those are now in place.

    The evangalist will also not be aware of that fact that the Berbers are the most dominant community in the popular retail industry and dominate business in the south of the country. That they are also represented in the civil service at a higher rate than their national statistical level and that the King is half berber and his father was also with berber blood.

    “Moroccan court rejects TelQuel and Nichane appeal”

    The “monarchy in Morocco cannot be the object of a debate, even by opinion poll,” Communications Minister Khalid Naciri said on Saturday, arguing that the two weeklies had “forgotten” this rule.

    Naciri was correct and the concept of a Monarch is also the concept of national unity.

    “Country Reports on Human Rights Practices

    The security apparatus includes several overlapping police and paramilitary organizations. The Border Police and the National Security Police are departments of the Ministry of Interior; the Judicial Police falls under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Justice; and the Royal Gendarmerie reports to the Palace.”

    And, this last one explains the current apparatus, what’s the deal. I guess spending so much time late at night in front of the screen desperately hoping to come accross something that will embarass me backfired and he fell asleep and there is a backwards QWERTY symbol on his forehead …. LMAO!

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