New Bin Laden Tape Surfaces

Bin (dead) Laden tries to scare the infidels again.

But not to worry:  If we stop the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and help the Muslims destroy  Israel and kill da Jooozzz  we’ll be safe!  Ah yes, there is still one more little thing: first of all we must convert to Islam….rumor has it that Obambi is pricking up his ears whenever he hears his  masters lovely voice…bin laden* what is it with the finger, Binnie?

Osama bin Laden has resurfaced again, this time in an 11-minute long audio tape posted on an Islamist Web site. The al-Qaeda leader purportedly has a message for the public only two days after the eighth anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. In “A statement to the American people” bin Laden says “The time has come for you to liberate yourselves from fear and the ideological terrorism of neo-conservatives and the Israeli lobby.” In the tape, which hasn’t yet been verified, bin Laden allegedly comments on the current government: “If you think about your situation well, you will know that the White House is occupied by pressure groups.” The tape is thought to be recorded after President Obama’s speech in Cairo in June.

Read it at Reuters

News links:

Islam: Ignorance is not a Strategy

Eight years after the tragic events of 9/11, most Americans still know nothing about Islam. Moreover, our political leaders now refrain from even associating terrorism with Islamic radicals at all.

Its not a race thing:Racial tensions spark UK election riot fears“/another anal-ist who doesn’t get it…

We have crippled our defences against Muslim terror/SO the airline bombers have been jailed. Big sighs of relief all around. We can now get back to the fools’ paradise we inhabit where Islamist terrorism is concerned. All’s well, go back to sleep…

36 thoughts on “New Bin Laden Tape Surfaces”

  1. First of all…Become Moron (muslims)..HOoooo! Great Anal-ysis,i think he is Right…Everything will be Fine after That !

  2. Moron is the First Step,otherwise you can not continue in this trend… because as long as you are idiot, you can believe anything like that Islam respects women, the Piss Camel cure cancer Brain and Testicules and even believe that Solkhar is Honest and a moderate Islamist.

  3. re. the finger…

    He wants someone to pull his finger so as to release the stored up hot air in a huge smelly fart.

  4. OBL is more and more in seclusion as his support base is either killed, abandoned or worse – no longer accepting his rantings.

    A recent pentagon spokesman told Zakaria that he is hiding his location not so much for being attacked but because so many Muslims do not support him and are willing to identify him to his enemies. This also explains the length of time and effort is needed to get his message out.

    It should not be forgotten that much of his support was from a select Wahhabist group in Saudi Arabia that lost its potency and many are jailed and under house address, the other support was the reliance on the ignorance of the poor illiterate masses that relied on radical mosques for news and information. They heard about 9/11 with a different story, and had no idea really what happened. In 8 years, they know more, they have tasted Al Qaeda’s reality and have simply abandoned them and their leader.

  5. what is with the finger?

    Actually, with no respect given to that murderous heretic, the pointing of the finger is a common tradition amongst Muslims. Be sure at that very moment when he was pointing he was saying “one God” and it is said in many haddiths, as sunnah and done in your daily prayers to point when the phrase “there is only one God…”. I do so in my prayers as well and when I hear the call to prayer, I have started that automatic reflex.

  6. OBL wears his watch like a bitch, which is par for the course, him being the “bitch” of a made-up deity. Couple of questions for this POS:
    1. Why didn’t Allah prevail against Israel in its many wars since its inception in 1948?
    2. What is penalty for deciding to leave Islam?
    3. Why have many of your friends fallen to the Hellfire missiles from the “sub-human, najis (unclean) infidel” and why didn’t “Allah” protect them if they were dutifully servicing Islam?
    4. How does it feel to not be able to use cell phones (Israeli) and other infidel technologies (Sat Phone)?
    5. How come there are no muslims represented on the Periodic Table of Elements but several Jews and at least one woman (M. Curie – Radium)?
    6. Why do America and Israel earn so many Nobel Prizes in the hard sciences and muslims earn next to zero?

  7. Bryan wishes to play the ignorant game, I am inclined to ignore him because he should read this blog and see that all these stupid questions have been answered. I will though because it is a good time to repeat the cr*p that is spouted on these rag-sheets.

    1. Why didn’t Allah prevail against Israel in its many wars since its inception in 1948?
    A: Why should God intervene, did HE stop the holocaust?

    2. What is penalty for deciding to leave Islam?
    A: depends on what country you live in.

    3. Why have many of your friends fallen to the Hellfire missiles from the “sub-human, najis (unclean) infidel” and why didn’t “Allah” protect them if they were dutifully servicing Islam?
    A: Why do you assume terrorists are my friends? Do I assume since you raise up Israel so many times that the ultra-orthodox Jews that marry their daughters at 12 years old and demand the elimination of the Palestinians inhabiting the West Bank are your friends? Again, why should God protect anyone, that is up to Him. Remember the holocaust.

    4. How does it feel to not be able to use cell phones (Israeli) and other infidel technologies (Sat Phone)?
    A: What BS are you on about, you talking about the Amish, or ultra-orthodox Jews that only ride bicycles? I have two phones, the latest iPhone with Sat-Nav and a Blackberry that I link by blue-tooth to my laptop so I can use the internet in the Sahara desert on the other side of the mountains here in Marrakech. Your a goof Bryan.

    5. How come there are no muslims represented on the Periodic Table of Elements but several Jews and at least one woman (M. Curie – Radium)?
    A: Much of modern science exists because of the efforts of five Muslim philosophers and be absolutely sure that Curie lent medicine based on the studies of Ibn-Sina.

    If the industrial revolution happened in Cairo or Damascus instead of London and Brussels, things may have changed. But since it did not and the West dominated, colonized, pilliged and raped the resources and the opportunities of Muslim and other nations (now called Developing Nations) the opportunities for the luxury of concentrating on pure sciences was taken away from them.

    6. Why do America and Israel earn so many Nobel Prizes in the hard sciences and muslims earn next to zero?
    A: See above.

    Bryan, to be honest, your questions are not very intelligent, lots of factual errors even in the questions and I simply hope you have learned something.

    1. Solker-boy:

      “If the industrial revolution happened in Cairo or Damascus instead of London and Brussels, things may have changed. But since it did not and the West dominated, colonized, pilliged and raped the resources and the opportunities of Muslim and other nation”

      There could never be and there will never be an Industrial revolution in Cairo or Damascus because of Islam.

      Because of Islam, things cannot change because all the answers are in your wonderful book, the Koran.

      Your Mohammedan forebears dominated, colonized, pilliged, enslaved and raped the resources and the opportunities of Christian and other nations since your meshugga prophet made “booty lawful.” They did that (and they still do that in the name of Islam, not in the name of “radicalism”)

      False and prposterous claims, that Mohammedan “philosophers” (as if there was ‘philosophy’ in Islam, or even better: as if mohammedans ever made inventions, LOL!) discovered this and that, including all modern science, America and Australia, space travel and the kitchen sink, are in fact nothing more than false claims, but nevertheless made with malicious intend to appropriate the work of infidels. In other words, typical Mohammedan behavior. The ‘planet Irf’ website of serial blogjockey Yusuf Irfan even appropriates Moses Maimonides, also known as Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon, and calls him “Shaykh Musa bin Maymoun al-Qurtubi”-.

      A bit like the bizarra claim that Abraham, Moses and Jesus were all Muslims; hundreds, if not thousands of years before the caravan-raiding serial killer Muhammad came along and claimed “”Jibreel” whispered in his ears.

      Even sheikh Yusuf al Qaradawi, one of the Mohammedan worlds leading headbangers, tends to agree with me: Yusuf says what we’ve been saying for the last 300 years!

  8. the only textual source is Bukhari whom made a mistake by saying she was 6 when betrothed and 9 when consumated.

    Key dates and events that are well documented do not match that statement, considering she was supposed to be born before day 1 of Islam. Just on that basis, she had to be at least 14 when betrothed and 16 when consumated which makes more sense physiologically and culturally speaking would have been a normal age throughout the the 7th century world in all religions, faiths and communities.

    More examples of this error are set in the link noted below but it should be pointed out in Bhukari’s defence, people did not count and record much in that part of the world, scribes were not present at all and a rarity.


    1. LOL!

      So Aisha and Dawoud made the same ‘mistake?’ What a lying weasel and a coward you are, Solker.

      Denying your own ‘sacred’ scriptures to deceive the kuffar?

      There are numerous Sahih hadiths which mention that Prophet Muhammad married Ayesha when she was 6 & consummated the marriage when she turned 9!

      Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
      ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

      Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
      Narrated ‘Aisha:
      that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

      Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
      Narrated ‘Aisha:
      that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’

      Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
      Narrated ‘Ursa:
      The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

      Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is of course not true and here is the proof.

      Sahih Bukhari 7.18
      Narrated ‘Ursa:
      The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for ‘Aisha’s hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said “But I am your brother.” The Prophet said, “You are my brother in Allah’s religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry.”

      Also it was customary that close friends made a pact of brotherhood and considered each other as true brothers. The Prophet disregarded all of these rules anytime they stood between him and his interests or whims.

      Abu Bakr and Muhammad had pledged to each other to be brothers. So according to their costoms Ayesha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet. Yet that did not stop him to ask her hand even when she was only six years old.

      Sahih Bukhari 5.236.
      Narrated Hisham’s father:
      Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

      Sahih Bukhari 5.234
      Narrated Aisha:
      The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

      And in another Hadith we read.

      Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915, also Number 4916 and Number 4917
      Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin:
      The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr’s version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.

      Since Muhammad’s behavior is Sunnah for all times & he’s supposed to be an all time great example-Muslim nations like Saudi which still stick to his rules marry off little girls to old men!

  9. Update:
    “Analysts said the latest message appeared to be less strident than the Al-Qaeda leader’s previous diatribes against the West, and the United States in particular.

    “There is a relatively new change, there is a transformation … He is not giving any warnings and is seeking to justify the September 11 attacks,” said Diaa Rashwan, a leading expert on militant groups.”
    Maybe “Sacha Baron Bruno” was right.
    “He’s so 2001”, or something like that.

  10. @Solkar
    “the only textual source is Bukhari whom made a mistake by saying she was 6 when betrothed and 9 when consummated.”
    Your word in their ear. THAT IS NOT THE POINT!!!!!!!!
    Girls are being sold off to paedophiles on the basis of this text. If it is wrong, well then, so are many milliams of muslims – some judges and a lot of imams. Whether mo did or did not rape a 9y.o. is not the point. Whether the belief justifies it in the 21st. century is.

  11. Solhar = pwned!!!

    Hahaha. Mohammad was in his 50’s when he married SIX YEAR OLD Aisha. Clear proof from Islam’s own texts.

    You are following a filthy, depraved paedophile. Disgusting.

  12. As the Sheik says, he is probably a paid agent of Morocco ‘Gov’ otherwise this guy is totally Crazy (it could be that too ?)..SNIP They think if they repeat so often and always theirs own LieXXXXX …HaHahaha…Solky is living on the Planet ‘Cor-anus ‘ we are not in the same World .. and as i told you before Solky don’t stop at ‘Cor-anus’ Planet …it’s the Baddest place of all the Universe,all the Junks & Junkies of the Universe are there Sucky….You must continued your way with your Space Ship…after turning to your right,you make a few kilometers…and you will see a Black circle in the bottom of the horizon…go directly in the middle on the automatic,don’t worry anymore by driving…..I know it’s far,far away,don’t look far away but it ‘s …I know,i know ! Only 2 or 3 millions Years of Flight Solky…Hey,Heyy !…But at least the reward you will be at home…Home Solky…Home Sweet Home ! It deserves a little effort…I know you Can.

  13. “Girls are being sold off to paedophiles on the basis of this text. If it is wrong, well then, so are many milliams of muslims – some judges and a lot of imams. Whether mo did or did not rape a 9y.o. is not the point. Whether the belief justifies it in the 21st. century is.”


    you are correct there, no argument at all. Radicalism and tribalism is destroying lives and it should be concentrated on, as is terrorism a real and dangerous threat to all of us around the world.

    The point is that it should not be, like the blog-owner is doing, attacking all of Islam which detracts from the real issues and battles.

  14. Yes blog owner LOL!

    I pointed out that I and man academics are pointing out the factual errors of Bhukari and yet you go and quote Bhukari over and over again. Rather like when you tell a prosthelitizering evengalist that quoting the Bible to a Muslim is rather moot because Muslims consider the Bible text corrupt and tainted, they will simply respond by justifying their point with more quotes.

    As for your other quotes, they are references to Aisha not actual quotes herself and there are other such references that Aisha contradicts herself constantly on her age – because she simply did not know it as most did not know in that age.

    “Age of Aisha at time of marriage with Holy Prophet Muhammad

    It is believed on the authority of some Hadith reports that the marriage ceremony (known as nikah, amounting to betrothal) of Aisha with the Holy Prophet Muhammad took place when she was six years of age, and that she joined the Holy Prophet as his wife three years later at the age of nine. We quote below from two such reports in Bukhari.

    “It is reported from Aisha that she said: The Prophet entered into marriage with me when I was a girl of six … and at the time [of joining his household] I was a girl of nine years of age.”

    “Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed [alone] for two years or so. He married Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.” [3]

    As to the authenticity of these reports, it may be noted that the compilers of the books of Hadith did not apply the same stringent tests when accepting reports relating to historical matters as they did before accepting reports relating to the practical teachings and laws of Islam. The reason is that the former type of report was regarded as merely of academic interest while the latter type of report had a direct bearing on the practical duties of a Muslim and on what was allowed to them and what was prohibited. Thus the occurrence of reports such as the above about the marriage of Aisha in books of Hadith, even in Bukhari, is not necessarily a proof of their credibility.

    Determination of the true age of Aisha
    It appears that Maulana Muhammad Ali was the first Islamic scholar directly to challenge the notion that Aisha was aged six and nine, respectively, at the time of her nikah and consummation of marriage. This he did in, at least, the following writings: his English booklet Prophet of Islam, his larger English book Muhammad, the Prophet, and in the footnotes in his voluminous Urdu translation and commentary of Sahih Bukhari entitled Fadl-ul-Bari, these three writings being published in the 1920s and 1930s. In the booklet Prophet of Islam, which was later incorporated in 1948 as the first chapter of his book Living Thoughts of the Prophet Muhammad, he writes in a lengthy footnote as follows:

    “A great misconception prevails as to the age at which Aisha was taken in marriage by the Prophet. Ibn Sa‘d has stated in the Tabaqat that when Abu Bakr [father of Aisha] was approached on behalf of the Holy Prophet, he replied that the girl had already been betrothed to Jubair, and that he would have to settle the matter first with him. This shows that Aisha must have been approaching majority at the time. Again, the Isaba, speaking of the Prophet’s daughter Fatima, says that she was born five years before the Call and was about five years older than Aisha. This shows that Aisha must have been about ten years at the time of her betrothal to the Prophet, and not six years as she is generally supposed to be. This is further borne out by the fact that Aisha herself is reported to have stated that when the chapter [of the Holy Quran] entitled The Moon, the fifty-fourth chapter, was revealed, she was a girl playing about and remembered certain verses then revealed. Now the fifty-fourth chapter was undoubtedly revealed before the sixth year of the Call. All these considerations point to but one conclusion, viz., that Aisha could not have been less than ten years of age at the time of her nikah, which was virtually only a betrothal. And there is one report in the Tabaqat that Aisha was nine years of age at the time of nikah. Again it is a fact admitted on all hands that the nikah of Aisha took place in the tenth year of the Call in the month of Shawwal, while there is also preponderance of evidence as to the consummation of her marriage taking place in the second year of Hijra in the same month, which shows that full five years had elapsed between the nikah and the consummation. Hence there is not the least doubt that Aisha was at least nine or ten years of age at the time of betrothal, and fourteen or fifteen years at the time of marriage.” [4] (Bolding is mine.)

    To facilitate understanding dates of these events, please note that it was in the tenth year of the Call, i.e. the tenth year after the Holy Prophet Muhammad received his calling from God to his mission of prophethood, that his wife Khadija passed away, and the approach was made to Abu Bakr for the hand of his daughter Aisha. The hijra or emigration of the Holy Prophet to Madina took place three years later, and Aisha came to the household of the Holy Prophet in the second year after hijra. So if Aisha was born in the year of the Call, she would be ten years old at the time of the nikah and fifteen years old at the time of the consummation of the marriage.

    Later research
    Research subsequent to the time of Maulana Muhammad Ali has shown that she was older than this. An excellent short work presenting such evidence is the Urdu pamphlet Rukhsati kai waqt Sayyida Aisha Siddiqa ki umar (‘The age of Lady Aisha at the time of the start of her married life’) by Abu Tahir Irfani.[4a] Points 1 to 3 below have been brought to light in this pamphlet.

    1. The famous classical historian of Islam, Ibn Jarir Tabari, wrote in his ‘History’:

    “In the time before Islam, Abu Bakr married two women. The first was Fatila daughter of Abdul Uzza, from whom Abdullah and Asma were born. Then he married Umm Ruman, from whom Abdur Rahman and Aisha were born. These four were born before Islam.” [5]

    Being born before Islam means being born before the Call.

    2. The compiler of the famous Hadith collection Mishkat al-Masabih, Imam Wali-ud-Din Muhammad ibn Abdullah Al-Khatib, who died 700 years ago, has also written brief biographical notes on the narrators of Hadith reports. He writes under Asma, the older daughter of Abu Bakr:

    “She was the sister of Aisha Siddiqa, wife of the Holy Prophet, and was ten years older than her. … In 73 A.H. … Asma died at the age of one hundred years.” [6]

    (Go here to see an image of the full entry in Urdu.)

    This would make Asma 28 years of age in 1 A.H., the year of the Hijra, thus making Aisha 18 years old in 1 A.H. So Aisha would be 19 years old at the time of the consummation of her marriage, and 14 or 15 years old at the time of her nikah. It would place her year of birth at four or five years before the Call.

    3. The same statement is made by the famous classical commentator of the Holy Quran, Ibn Kathir, in his book Al-bidayya wal-nihaya:

    “Asma died in 73 A.H. at the age of one hundred years. She was ten years older than her sister Aisha.” [7]

    Apart from these three evidences, which are presented in the Urdu pamphlet referred to above, we also note that the birth of Aisha being a little before the Call is consistent with the opening words of a statement by her which is recorded four times in Bukhari. Those words are as follows:

    “Ever since I can remember (or understand things) my parents were following the religion of Islam.” [8]

    This is tantamount to saying that she was born sometime before her parents accepted Islam but she can only remember them practising Islam. No doubt she and her parents knew well whether she was born before or after they accepted Islam, as their acceptance of Islam was such a landmark event in their life which took place just after the Holy Prophet received his mission from God. If she had been born after they accepted Islam it would make no sense for her to say that she always remembered them as following Islam. Only if she was born before they accepted Islam, would it make sense for her to say that she can only remember them being Muslims, as she was too young to remember things before their conversion. This is consistent with her being born before the Call, and being perhaps four or five years old at the time of the Call, which was also almost the time when her parents accepted Islam.

    Two further evidences cited by Maulana Muhammad Ali
    In the footnotes of his Urdu translation and commentary of Sahih Bukhari, entitled Fadl-ul-Bari, Maulana Muhammad Ali had pointed out reports of two events which show that Aisha could not have been born later than the year of the Call. These are as follows.

    1. The above mentioned statement by Aisha in Bukhari, about her earliest memory of her parents being that they were followers of Islam, begins with the following words in its version in Bukhari’s Kitab-ul-Kafalat. We quote this from the English translation of Bukhari by M. Muhsin Khan:

    “Since I reached the age when I could remember things, I have seen my parents worshipping according to the right faith of Islam. Not a single day passed but Allah’s Apostle visited us both in the morning and in the evening. When the Muslims were persecuted, Abu Bakr set out for Ethiopia as an emigrant.” [9]

    Commenting on this report, Maulana Muhammad Ali writes:

    “This report sheds some light on the question of the age of Aisha. … The mention of the persecution of Muslims along with the emigration to Ethiopia clearly shows that this refers to the fifth or the sixth year of the Call. … At that time Aisha was of an age to discern things, and so her birth could not have been later than the first year of the Call.” [10]

    Again, this would make her more than fourteen at the time of the consummation of her marriage.

    2. There is a report in Sahih Bukhari as follows:

    “On the day (of the battle) of Uhud when (some) people retreated and left the Prophet, I saw Aisha daughter of Abu Bakr and Umm Sulaim, with their robes tucked up so that the bangles around their ankles were visible hurrying with their water skins (in another narration it is said, ‘carrying the water skins on their backs’). Then they would pour the water in the mouths of the people, and return to fill the water skins again and came back again to pour water in the mouths of the people.” [11]

    Maulana Muhammad Ali writes in a footnote under this report:

    “It should also be noted that Aisha joined the Holy Prophet’s household only one year before the battle of Uhud. According to the common view she would be only ten years of age at this time, which is certainly not a suitable age for the work she did on this occasion. This also shows that she was not so young at this time.” [12]

    If, as shown in the previous section above, Aisha was nineteen at the time of the consummation of her marriage, then she would be twenty years old at the time of the battle of Uhud. It may be added that on the earlier occasion of the battle of Badr when some Muslim youths tried, out of eagerness, to go along with the Muslim army to the field of battle, the Holy Prophet Muhammad sent them back on account of their young age (allowing only one such youngster, Umair ibn Abi Waqqas, to accompany his older brother the famous Companion Sa‘d ibn Abi Waqqas). It seems, therefore, highly unlikely that if Aisha was ten years old the Holy Prophet would have allowed her to accompany the army to the field of battle.

    We conclude from all the evidence cited above that Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) was nineteen years old when she joined the Holy Prophet as his wife in the year 2 A.H., the nikah or betrothal having taken place five years previously.”


    According to the generally accepted tradition, Ayesha (ra) was born about eight years before Hijrah. But according to another narrative in Bukhari (kitabu’l-tafseer) Ayesha (ra) is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur’an, was revealed, “I was a young girl”. The 54th surah of the Qur’an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Ayesha (ra) had not only been born before the revelation of the referred surah, but was actually a young girl (jariyah), not an infant (sibyah) at that time. Obviously, if this narrative is held to be true, it is in clear contradiction with the narratives reported by Hisham ibn `urwah. I see absolutely no reason that after the comments of the experts on the narratives of Hisham ibn `urwah, why we should not accept this narrative to be more accurate.

    The actual statements referred to in the above paragraph, their translations and their complete references are given below:

    i.e. “Ayesha (ra) said: I was a young girl, when verse 46 of Surah Al-Qamar, [the 54th chapter of the Qur’an], was revealed. (Sahih Bukhari, kitabu’l-tafsir, Arabic, Bab Qaulihi Bal al-sa`atu Maw`iduhum wa’l-sa`atu adha’ wa amarr)


    As “gsw” mentioned correctly in his posting and I replied to it separately, the issue of age is debated and disputed (which the blog-owner, Spencer and Fitzgerald believes does not happen in Islam) but regardless of this dispute, there are radicals using this excuse to support their disgusting tribal habits and young girls are being abused in many parts of the Muslim world.

    The reality is terrible, no denying that, the problem here and now with this blog is that the targetting of Islam is unjust and with its own malicious agenda and the effort should not be sidetracked by such agendas but in fact the way to battle such practices is to support moderates in the Muslim World, continue to engage and deal fairly with such a world and that will do more damage to radicalism than anything else – because the radicals are telling the Muslim masses that the West are like these blog-owners.

  15. Blog-owner,

    I told you before that you need to be factually accurate and if you are going to accuse me of just baseless attacks then you must ensure you do not the same. I will give an example.

    “A bit like the bizarra claim that Abraham, Moses and Jesus were all Muslims; hundreds, if not thousands of years before the caravan-raiding serial killer Muhammad came along and claimed “”Jibreel” whispered in his ears.”

    Not bizarre blog-owner if you have any knowledge of Islam as you say you do, and Arabic.

    All the Prophets of God, such as Adam, Moses, Abraham, Jesus and Mohammed are “Muslim”. It is a reference saying that they are adherants and were submitted to the will of God. It is basic Arabic.

    It is rather aking to my saying that Abraham and Jesus were “drayif” and you saying “no” he is no such thing, but all I said in Arabic was that they were “good”. Or if I said “Moses al Kabar” which would mean “Moses the Great”. So your saying what you did is declarign that the Prophets were not willing servents of God.

    1. “All the Prophets of God, such as Adam, Moses, Abraham, Jesus and Mohammed are “Muslim”.

      Sure thing, Solker.

      Sounds like ‘Shakespeare was a Muslim because he was actually an Arab sheikh ‘spear’, or ‘California is the land of the caliph’ and all modern inventions are made by Mohammedan zebiba cultivists…. the world and everything in it belongs to allah etc etc….

      Nice try!

  16. Blog-owner – re Pierre,

    thank you for that, I was in fact about to ask you to admonish his disgusting language and insults. I humbly suggest that you make this also a last warning.

    as you confirmed, we may disagree very strongly, we may imply motives or each other etc, but I do not use abusive language attacks on anyone.

    I also suggest you give a similar warning to the evangalist/prosthelitizer. Saying and quoting the bible for subjects that are on-topic is absolutely fine and understandable, but he has on numerous occassions did so as a message to me, telling me I must convert, accept this or that or burn in the fires of hell under God’s retribution etc, which is another form of personal attack as well as completely off-topic. It is your site but you mentioned that your detractors use vulgar abusive language against you, they will also use such actions as well.

  17. All the Prophets of God, such as Adam, Moses, Abraham, Jesus and Mohammed are “Muslim”.

    Blasphemy, Solkhar – the prophets of God are not muslims; Jesus is
    the Son of God, and was crucified; Mo was a false prophet.

  18. * I also suggest you give a similar warning to the evangalist/prosthelitizer.

    We are moving inexorably closer to the showdown between the “god”
    of islam and the God of Israel, with muslims boasting of their “might”
    against the Zionists:

    ( )
    MP Terms Int’l Qods Day Display of Islam’s Might VS. Zionists

    TEHRAN (FNA)- A senior Iranian lawmaker on Tuesday underlined the importance of the International Qods Day as an opportunity for demonstrating Muslims’ will and power against the Zionist regime of Israel. […]

    When God is ready, in accordance with His will and purpose, He
    will act as prophesied and gather the Ezekiel 38 / 39 nations against
    Israel, and destroy them. I do not the day or the hour, but what
    better day than the very one that muslims use to boast against
    God and Israel, the apple of His eye.

    In any event, it would be a good idea for Israel to stock up on
    loaders, excavators and fuel to bury the hordes of dead muslims
    at the appointed place – they may be needed very soon, if Iran
    (Persia) gets its way.

  19. OK, that’s all great. Thanks all above for the history lesson. But, as a business person I just need to get the bottom line quickly. So, can you clear up how this Jihadist that advocates killing kids if they’re Christian, cutting the clitorises off of little girls, sending suicide bombers into weddings, burning women alive on the accusation of infidelity and backing the murder of 3,000 of my countrymen has a leg to stand on? We don’t scare that easily.

    I have some good Muslim friends that don’t believe any of that diatribe either. I explain it to the kids like this: Islamic fundamentalism is to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity. Except that the Middle East has let some of them (fundamentalists) steal power with terror. Hopefully we’ll get to the point where they [the constituency – including women] let these misguided elders parade around with signs proclaiming their ignorance and prosecute them if they start to collect weapons or actually act violently. Just like we have to do with the idiots in sheets here in Georgia!

    Bin Laden’s rhetoric is indeed weakening. I’m not much for reading, and the Bible as well as the Koran are both way too thick for people with ADD to wade through. Let alone learning the Arabic or Hebrew required to make sure you don’t dump language translation on top of translating the word of God and Allah. But, I’m willing to bet my soul that when we all reach our respective promised lands God and Allah are one in the same and he’s pissed at us for being such idiots. Men wrote both documents and the potential for data being misinterpreted and lost in translation(s) is huge.

    Let’s look If the Bible and The Qu’ran were plans for airplanes they’d probably fly like bricks. In the Qu’ran Ayesha was only six when married off and in the Bible moses was 600. Really? Or, perhaps were we as mankind still getting up to speed on a universal solar cycle based calendar? Every attempt to take the words of either text literally invariably fails to end well. For example, all the massively successful crusades that happened, ½ a millennium ago. Why are Muslim fundamentalists still upset about that? We got over being angry with the Japanese in the 1960’s. Give me a break.

    In the end, Bin Laden’s foray into history will likely end in a fizzle as opposed to bang. They’ll find his lanky corpse in the back of cave, alone and cold with the blood all 1,000s all over his hands. “Hey look mom, I’m a prophet.”

    Oh and here’s one more thing I’d like to prophesize: When we reach the end of days this God/Allah/Buddha/Soaring Eagle creator of ours is likely going to be a woman too! How do ya’ all like that?

  20. Good try at Taqqiya John Nycz . Now try to show us where the KKK get their justifications from the NEW TESTAMENT because if you cannot then your whole Mohammedan apologetic diatribe falls down like a pack of cards spewed out in an attempt to deceive gullible children. Please also detail how the KKK planned to Rule the World and convert everyone to KKKism and if not make them second class citizens . You are either a Mohammedan yourself or a deluded ‘libtard’ PC MC Islamophile moonbat.

  21. BTW moonbat John have you forgotten thet the Krap Kran unlike the New Testament is ‘supposed’ to be the ‘ACTUAL unalterable word of god” given DIRECTLY to the paedophile profit (well not really directly of course God never talked directly to Ol Mo). Now this is either a convenient memory lapse on your part or a deliberate Taqqiya ploy. I go for the latter myself.

  22. [John Nycz] “But, I’m willing to bet my soul that when we all reach our respective promised lands God and Allah are one in the same …”

    I’m not a bookie, but that bet shows how little value you place on your
    soul, and how little you understand the Biblical God, and “allah”.

  23. * I also suggest you give a similar warning to the evangalist/prosthelitizer.

    Behold the words of your filthy “god”, Solkhar, via the false prophet.
    Personal attack, straight from satan / allah…

    [Sura 9:29] You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth – among those who received the scripture – until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.

    I will not be abiding by satan’s “religion of truth”, or paying a tax
    to the disgusting religion of islam.

    You wish to associate with that foul & disgusting religion with satan
    as its “god” and Mo as its false prophet, that is your prerogative,
    but be warned – there are consequences, generally unpleasant.

    Spy and snitch for the Moroccan Interior Ministry while you can;
    but don’t expect much of a superannuation plan to retire on.

  24. I have a very good Dutch pension plan with over 22 years of government service, a home in Rotterdam and a very nice apartment in Marrakech and just purchased 4 hectares of land outside of Marrakech (Asni) with apple, pear, fig and olive trees and am today talking to a builder for my house and pool.

    My retirement is already very well set.

    I have one question, as far as I know there is not one quality or respected Christian group on this planet that referes to other’s faiths as “disgusting”, I think your not and it is all a ploy.

  25. Alas the ignorance is now flowing freely. With one little blog entry I was able to get a bunch of zealots all riled up. I work in a world where we solve business problems. One of the tools often applied is simple root cause analysis (RCA). I still hold my position that the root cause of most of this fighting in, around, and from the Middle East is RELIGION. Go forth now and squabble amongst yourselves like spoiled children fighting over a plastic bucket and shovel in a sand box. I have to go to work…you kids play nice now. Just understand clearly that if you come over to my sand box and bring your fight with you, I hang around with a bunch of folks that will put your little shovel in your ear and insert the bucket in your @%#!

    Oh, but just to clarify…none of them consider white bed sheets with eye holes cut in them to be acceptable outerwear, for any season. I have friends that are Muslim and Buddhist and Christian and Hebrew. I would love their children like they were my own if anything happened to them. If your religious beliefs make you feel otherwise, then you might just indeed be the one that’s screwed up in the end. Hello! Are you listening?

    Sholkar, you nailed it buddy. Religions that persecute other religions walk in peril. History has already apologized for the actions of Christians 500 years ago. Similarly, it has apologized for the actions of racists in the U.S. 150 years ago. But, I’m about damned tired of apologizing to anybody for actions I took no part in. I am a Christian. I am also a Falcons football fan and I watch the Detroit Tigers play baseball when I can. If Islamic fundamentalists win their misguided jihad, and align behind a different team for religious reasons, will we have to start killing people for showing up at a picnic wearing the wrong franchise logo on their hat?

    The Mayan culture had some pretty disgusting and cruel religious beliefs. They persecuted their neighbors at the behest of religious leaders too. Look how well all that worked out for them! Again, for those of us whose passion is obviously blinding, look out into the night sky and get your head around the fact that the stars go on forever. If all the answers were spelled out in detail in the Bible and Qur’an why the heck didn’t we get an explanation for that one? If your heart tells you to hate me because I went to a Catholic school, well we’re just going to be at odds about that then aren’t we? Why is it that the closer one gets to the letter of the law as related to most religions, the closer they get to being so self-righteous they act out in ways that border on evil?

    1. Dear John,

      last time I checked this blog was still called ‘Winds of Jihad’ and not Winds of Mayan culture.

      The next time you feel like engaging in mental acrobatics and fake equivocations please move on to white sheet blogs. Or join a Mayan research team.

  26. What blog-owner, you do not like comparisons? Strange, you do that all the time. I guess it is bad enough that you have one person on this blog who thinks your agenda is both pathetic and wasteful.

  27. Well Solkhar, the Moroccan Interior Ministry’s paid snitch seems to spend quite a bit of time on here recently. The Mayans & Aztecs are
    not currently waging war against the West, and haven’t been for a
    few years now, but the islamic jihad is current and increasing, with
    allah in a battle to (a) sell the lie that he is the god of the Bible and
    (b) to overcome Jews and Christians and to control the site of the
    Holy Temple and forbid Jews / Christians from praying there.

    He will know the jig is up when the wrecker’s ball demolishes the
    islamic stuff on the Mount, and construction of the Temple begins,
    but in the meantime he continues to assert control…

    Wednesday, August 26, 2009 Israel Today Staff

    Jewish prayers on Temple Mount ‘a violation of international law’

    Taking their misinterpretation of international law to new heights, the Arab League this week accused the Jews of Israel of violating the rules that govern global behavior by praying atop Jerusalem’s Temple Mount.
    [Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa] insisted that under international law, Jews and Christians are forbidden from praying atop the Muslim-controlled Temple Mount.

    Remember Solkhar – Jerusalem will be trodden down by the gentiles,
    but [only] until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled, and nothing that
    agenda-driven stooges of the Moroccan Interior Ministry can do
    about it.

  28. Yo – however y0u spell your name. The Mayan reference is simply to make a historical data point re. what happens when idiots wage war in the name of religion. I’m out.

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