"Nothing-to-do-with-Islam" Islamic Suicide Bombers kill 21 African Union Peacekeepers

Somali jihad leader defends attacks on African Union troops: “The Islamic religion permits such kinds of attacks if they are against known enemies and in the defense of the religion”

Now wait for the  advocates  of the tiny minority of extremists  who will tell us that we can’t blame the religion of peace for these few bad apples, there are radicals in all religions and these acts are totally un-Islamic, right Solker?

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But remember, to believe this conflict has anything to do with Islamic teachings on jihadist warfare or the ideology that drives it would just be downright Islamophobic. “Radical Somali leader defends peacekeepers’ killings,” from CNN, September 20:

(CNN) — A radical Islamist leader in Somalia said Sunday that a suicide attack that killed 21 African Union peacekeepers was the right thing to do.

Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys said Thursday’s attack was meant to defend Islam.

“The Islamic religion permits such kinds of attacks if they are against known enemies and in the defense of the religion, but there are people who distort that explanation,” Aweys said, addressing hundreds of people during a religious sermon at Elashabiyaha, a suburb of Mogadishu.

He beat the apologists to the punch on that one.

Suicide bombers, disguised in two U.N.-marked vehicles, rammed through the security gate of the mission’s headquarters, which is attached to Mogadishu’s airport. More from JW>>

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33 thoughts on “"Nothing-to-do-with-Islam" Islamic Suicide Bombers kill 21 African Union Peacekeepers”

  1. You said it, why do I need to repeat what you have confirmed.

    It is purely politics, terrorism and conflict, and as has been proven throughout history, by all religions, they will claim God is on their side.

  2. Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys said Thursday’s attack was meant to defend Islam.

    “The Islamic religion permits such kinds of attacks if they are against known enemies and in the defense of the religion, but there are people who distort that explanation,” Aweys said.

    Along comes Solker, a paid Islamo-propagandist who tells us that Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys got his religion all wrong. Any idea where he he got that from, Solker?

    Is he a misunderstander of Islam or do you have an agenda?

  3. Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys has an agenda, it is called political control. You have an agenda blog-owner to only quote radical clerics to convince readers that Islam is evil, which is a form of political control.

    Both of you are technically the same, you both do not represent the whole, but only the fringe.

    We all know your rantings are BS blog-owner, everyone knows there has been chaos in Somalia for more than 20 years, that the current “strong men” in that country are radical Muslim extremists, and it does not take an idiot to know how many countries, including Muslim countries, recognise, deal with or have embassies in that country.

    It is just trash politics on your part and is about as quality as Gellar claiming that Obama is in fact really Malcom X’s love child.

  4. Solker, you doing comedy now?

    “you only quote radical clerics to convince readers that Islam is evil..”

    Are there any other ones, Solker? Name one. Name ONE!

    “Both of you are technically the same, you both do not represent the whole, but only the fringe.”

    I beg your pardon: to equate me with a lunatic headbanger who sends other indoctrinated lunatics to kill and die for allah (9:111) is as idiotic and vile as comparing Wilders with Hitler.

    What does that tell our readers about you?

  5. Lets see with comedy, you believe that there are only radical clerics claiming evil things and ask me to name one that is not. I will answer that with the most simple of answers – the rest of them, which is in fact most of them.

    As for calling you a radical, you are. You wish to hang Muslims in America for being traitors, you wish to dislocate the Palestinians in the West Bank for your own religious/racial/political agenda, both are violent acts.

    Thus yes, I equate you with those lunatic radicals and militants whom for political reasons claim God is on their side to justify barbaric acts – like you are doing.

    What does that tell our readers about me? It confirms that I dispise and loath radicals of all sorts.

  6. * What does that tell our readers about me? It confirms that I dispise and loath radicals of all sorts.

    You, Solkhar, are a blasphemer against the Son of God, a crucifixion
    denier, and a despiser of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. That tells me
    that you are doomed, unless you change your mind. It’s up to you.

  7. Solker logic:

    “As for calling you a radical, you are. You wish to hang Muslims in America for being traitors, you wish to dislocate the Palestinians in the West Bank for your own religious/racial/political agenda, both are violent acts.”

    1. Muslims are traitors if they have sworn an oath to uphold the constitution in order to gain entry to the US and then actually work to replace it with the sharia. That is in fact high treason and the law for that crime is execution or hanging.

    2. As for the Pali-Arab rabble in Judea, Samaria and Hebron, they are not only committing violent crimes against Israeli citizens every day, but they also openly call for genocide on all Jews and the destruction of Israel.

    It is their religious/racial/political agenda that will take them to the abyss.

  8. “sworn an oath to uphold the constitution in order to gain entry to the US and then actually work to replace it with the sharia”

    So Alikhan fits this? Suggest you learn to read.

    As for Pal/Israel, not all Palestinians attack Israelis (not to mention most are in illegal settlements – no excuse though but a point) nor support such attacks and not all Palestinians support the genocide of Jews and the destruction of Israel. Most are in fact hoping for the two state solution to get on with their lives.

    It is still your feligious/Racial/political agenda.

  9. Wow, what a relief!

    “not all Palestinians support the genocide of Jews and the destruction of Israel. ”

    Pray, tell solker troll: are you gonna sort them out for us?

  10. The Arabs have a right to exist (in Arab countries)

    The Fakestinians have no right to the land of Israel.

    Perhaps you should learn how to read.

    Once again: can you sort the “moderates who want to get on with their life’s” from those who want to take ours?

    Can you name ONE imam who doesn’t teach genocide on the Jews?

  11. As for Alikhan: a mole, a plant, a subversive, a Mohammedan infil-traitor:

    Back in 2007, Alikhan was instrumental in removing the Muslim terror tracking plan in LA.

    Creeping sharia

    A Sunni Muslim who was born to Indian and Pakistani parents, Arif Alikhan graduated from Loyola Law School and then clerked for U.S. District Judge Ronald Lew of California’s Central District. He subsequently worked as a prosecutor in the Los Angeles U.S. Attorney’s office and taught law at the University of Southern California. He also spent time as vice chairman of the Justice Department’s Intellectual Property Task Force. In 2002 Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa appointed Alikhan as Deputy Mayor of Homeland Security and Public Safety for the City of Los Angeles, a position he held until 2006.

    During his years in Los Angeles, Alikhan was responsible for derailing the Police Department’s plan to monitor activities within the Los Angeles Muslim community, where numerous radical mosques and madrassas existed, and where some of the 9/11 hijackers had received support from local residents.

    Strongly anti-Israel, Alikhan has referred to the terrorist organization Hezbollah as a “liberation movement.” An affiliate of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Alikhan opposed President George W. Bush’s prosecution of the war on Islamic terror.

    In June 2009 Alikhan was appointed as assistant secretary for the Office of Policy Development in Barack Obama’s Department of Homeland Security.

    Link

  12. The Grand Sheik of Al Quarouine does not, the clerics/Imams of the Mosques that I grew up in Rotterdam does not, the Grand Sheik of Istanbul does not and so on and so forth….. suggest you stop reading trash like your own blog and quasi-wannabee academics like Spencer.

    As for Alikhan, you just quoted a website linked to FrontpageMag, suggest you try first a serious non-agenda based source first.

    Being involved to a small degree in combatting terrorism, Alikhan like most whom understood the situation better than right-wing hawks with political motives (Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bolton) noted and apposed the political direction of Bush’s war on terror. (It was not a war on Islamic terror, that is an agenda-based add-on).

    Alikhan correctly, convinced the California State Authorities to alter the political bias and preconceptions and concentrate on actual terrorism, its financing and other sources as well. The work, effort and results in LA Policing were in fact an example for other states to follow and he was given an award for it with obstanant but necessary appreciation from Bush himself – after of course Rumsfeld and Bolton long out of the picture.

    It helps to read.

    Speaking of reading, I notice you like to misquote and put words in my mouth and get rather upset when it is done to you. Double standards continue to abound.

    Yes the Palestinians have no right to the land of Israel, just like the Israelis have no right to the Palestinian lands, of which they continue to breach. You see no settlement movements from the Palestinian side, they continue to be evicted from homes in Al Qods (you may call it Jerusalem) on the pretext the houses are unfit for habitation but yet quickly settler squatters moving in.

    Palestinians are certainly causing terror by blowing things up, firing murderous missiles etc, but there are many different ways to commit terror.

  13. hi Solkhar…

    after reading your first post above I am starting to wonder whether you are a closet atheist…
    You certainly come across as being very insecure with regards to your faith otherwise you wouldn’t even be on blog sites such as this continually re-assuring yourself that Islam is the one true faith and Allah the only god.

  14. No atheist, I am very firm in my faith and beliefs and its simplicity as well, liberal-purist Qur’an only Islam is pretty much clear, unambigious and no-bull sh*t.

    I am on this blog for a very particular reason, it is one of the studies I am doing on the logic, causes and methods of hate-blogs. This is the seventh blog I have studied, doing four at the same time, this is the first one that is part of a demonizing campaign for the purpose of simply self justifying the total annexation of the Palestinian Territories in the West Bank. Try and tell the owner that the West Bank exists and he will say where? Oh, you mean Samaria and Judea (and Hebron) and say they are already a part of Israel and yadiyadiya……. Oh, he will answer that there are no Palestinians but there are a few Arab squatters there that can go back home……….. rather sickening eh.

    I have identified all sorts of interesting motives, styles and most are all part of the same source book which just shows how fringe they are.

    I would rather argue, to be honest, with an athiest. They have at least a concept and a cause based on their (your) logic – there is no God. To be very honest, Islam condemns athiests more than others because, and it makes sense, if you are religious then the most darkened element is unGodliness. But having said that, I personally think that still is between yourself and God as long as, like the resident evangalist-fundamentalist on this blog, the atheist does not condemn and try and convert in the same breath.

    1. Solker, the projectionist:

      “one of the studies I am doing on the logic, causes and methods of hate-blogs-”

      curiously, there is very little in the way of hate to be found here on WoJ, FoV, JW or Atlas and all those who are brave enough to educate themselves about this horrific cult called Islam.

      What we offer are accurate reports about the daily attacks and atrocities caused by the religion of peace. We comment here and there, we discuss and debate, but we don’t hate like Mohammedans do. Perhaps solker should direct his ‘studies’ towards mohammedania, where the (non-existent) jihad rages, like here

      Much more rewarding, solker! Real blood and guts, glorification of murder and incitement to terror, all the things you don’t find here. But excuse me forgetting that you’re deaf and blind when it comes to Islamic terror….

      A study in hate, by Nonie Darwish

      As a young woman, I visited a Christian friend in Cairo during the Friday prayers, and we both heard the verbal attacks on Christians and Jews from the loudspeakers. We heard “May God destroy the infidels and the Jews, the enemies of God. We are not to befriend them or make treaties with them.” We also heard the worshipers respond “Amen”. I heard ‘cursing prayers’ all my life from the pulpits of mosques — and believe it or not if you grow up with cursing prayers, it can feel and sound normal. My Christian friend looked scared, and I was ashamed. That was when I first realized that something was very wrong in the way my religion was taught and practiced.

      I moved to the US in 1978. In my first visit to a mosque in America, we were told not to assimilate in America and that Islam is here to become the dominant religion. I was told to cover up in Islamic clothes; but how can I do that when I have never worn Islamic clothes in Egypt? Women in Egypt until the 1980’s did not wear Islamic clothes.

      In August 2001, I visited my birthplace, Cairo, Egypt. I was stunned to see how radical Islam had taken over. The level of anger and hate speech was alarming. I saw extreme poverty, pollution, hazardous material and garbage along the Nile. There was high unemployment, inflation and widespread corruption. But when I read Arab media, all I saw was Israel and America bashing. Citizens were unaware of Muslim against Muslim atrocities in Iraq, Algeria, Sudan etc. As a matter of fact, the term “Islamo-fascism” was coined by Algerian Muslims and ex-Muslims to describe the Islamic fanatics who slaughtered 150,000 fellow Algerian Muslims in the 1990s. Arab media have failed human rights of the ordinary Arab citiznes. They have no understanding of their role in defending the interest of the public; this mentality was created from an Islamo-Fascist environment that rejects change.Western media was also under-reporting the threat.

      I was happy to return to the US on the evening of Sept. 10th. 2001. The next morning I saw the second airplane hit the twin towers, I knew ‘Jihad has come to America.’ Muhammad Attah was from Cairo, the same city I came from.

      I called several friends in Cairo, they were all in denial and said ‘How dare you say that Arabs did this? Don’t you know this is a Jewish conspiracy?’

      More? Here’s more>>

  15. Solker, the zebiba cultivist:

    “Palistanians are certainly causing terror by blowing things up, firing murderous missiles etc, but ….”

    But, but but but but……..

  16. Yes, it should have been “and”, and there is other forms of terror, such as. …… it should have been yes, hitting women is inexcusable AND it is just as stupid to ……..

    We will call that English language knowledge and my translater.

  17. No just truths, of which you are unable to handle, not interested in word-games blog-owner, twisting words for me is an anal-retentive habit that is used to hide behind and avoid truths.

    1. But solker,

      ever since you started posting here you have never done anything other than

      “twisting words for me is an anal-retentive habit that is used to hide behind and avoid truths.”

      You lie about everything and you try to smear every one. What does that tell us about you?

  18. Solkhar the truth-rejecter: “No just truths, of which you are unable to handle, not interested in word-games blog-owner …”

    You reject the Truth, Solkahr, and mock and blaspheme against it.

    Who are you, and who do you serve?

  19. We must all understand that this gentleman is a scholar who is undertaking disinterested (impartial) scholarly research on hate blogs and we all need to keep this basic fact in mind and give him a fair go.

    Ironic, however, that the ‘religion’ (sic) he espouses is not exactly a religion of love – more one of hate.

    So maybe he ought to focus on the Qu’ran and go away.

    But then he might not get the attention that he appears to need.

  20. Solkhar the follower of hateful “allah” and his false prophet wrote “the studies I am doing on the logic, causes and methods of hate-blogs.”

    Well, Solkhar, do you find unreasonable or surprising that blogs might
    appear in response to “allah’s” hate? Mulsims are always faking away
    like mad about the “underlying causes” of islamic hate crimes – such as “marginalisation”, “poverty”, “lack of education” and the like,
    while papering over the inherent hate in islam itself.

    A search on “allah hate” gives more than 9 million responses – more
    than enough for anyone interested in studying the causes of islamic
    hate to have a full-time job, without bothering with a few “agenda
    driven blogs” that might appear in response to “allah’s” hate and
    terror.

    Get cracking, Solkhar, and report back in about 2,000 years.

    1. Beautiful!

      Thanks for that, eloivsdiablo!

      Gone through it in a flash: love is to be given to allah and his profit, and allah loves you in return when you follow his religion and the profit. Did I miss anything?

  21. Interesting blog-owner that you are so easy to declare – because it is your blog – that I avoid debate and lie.

    We should remember that you claimed that the Five Schools of Islam declare, support and instigate a jihad that actually does not exist.

    Also that you have declared that the Qur’an was not turned into the Book that it is until 200 years alter, though there were in that time two universities built (and still running) , thus without its prime text book, let alone all the other references to something non-existant.

    You have also stated other rubbish and lies simply because the word Islam is attached. That includes assuming that an individual whom is not just a patriot but an awarded and successful crime-fighter and has improved and helped the US’s battle against terrorism is a traitor and deserves the death penalty.

    I think we know whom is spouting lies. In fact I want you to name one that I have given.

    As for your logic on searches with the word Allah and hate in it, the logic that comes from that is very simple, in fact the simple answer is often the right one. Muslims constantly saying that there are so much hatred showing, bias and histeria, then perhaps there is a point. If there is a lot of smoke, there will be certainly be a fire, or there is some truth behind all the rumours. The same goes both ways and of course we do know there are militants and radicals blowing up people and demanding the unacceptable.

    The other point is that the organisation and strength of right-wingers and other agenda based groups is very well documented. Since 9/11 over 3,800 hate-sites were created in 12 months, almost all of them in the southern US Bible-belt and by religio-Zionist groups with similar agendas as this one.

    No spinning here, just facts – something lacking in your posts.

  22. Another point, respectable arguments try and look for unbiased, non-agenda based and academic sources. When are you going to do that?

    Your sources have mostly been – Spencer, Fitzgerald, Gellar & Bostom. Darwish and the like are all with an agenda and cannot be considered independant and other far-right blogs and sites just make the argument more tarnished.

    The other element is of course half-quotes with clear avoidance of reporting the entire article and then making assumptions and accussations based on that half-quote. You do that, probably in an attempt to immitate Spencer and Fitzgerald. It is that method, and doing the other mistakes above that has put the two into the “quasi-wannabee academics” category by the real and established academic institutions.

    So, when are you going to start?

    1. Wakademia are all with an agenda and cannot be considered independant and other far-right Muslim blogs and sites just make the argument more tarnished.

      Solker suggests:

      When dealing with Communism buy Pravda.

      When trying to learn about Islam, import Islamic headbangers and put them in institutions of higher learning, like Rashid Khalidi.

      When quoting Islam, quote only half-quotes, like this one that was decreed for the children of Israel:

      He who has killed one innocent soul, it is as if he has killed all humanity. And he who has saved one soul, is as if he has saved all humanity (Quran 5:32).

      Why do muslims only quote the first part of president Bush’s favorite sura, solker? Perhaps because of this:

      Never mentioned by the President or any of the others who quote this verse as if it condemns Islamic jihadist violence are several important facts: it comes within the context of a warning to the Jews, and is not presented as a universal principle; it contains the important exception “unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land,” and it is followed by v. 33, which specifies the punishment for that mischief: “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.”

      Thus this passage is explaining what must be done with Jews who reject Muhammad, not dictating lofty moral principles. Ibn Warraq sums it up: “The supposedly noble sentiments are in fact a warning to Jews. ‘Behave, or else’ is the message. Far from abjuring violence, these verses aggressively point out that anyone opposing the Prophet will be killed, crucified, mutilated, and banished!” Qur’an: Sura 5, “The Table,” verses 1-60

      No, solker. We don’t make assumptions and accussations based on half-quotes, we give you the real mcCoy, undiluted.

      We started long before you ever woke up!

  23. Did you know Solky that you’re extremely annoying one of the most Annoying who live on earth, I just wanted you to know, it feels good to say it.

  24. To many beers obviously. The thought of facing up to the task of modelling a proper argument was way to much for him. But anyhow, if you cannot face the scrutiny, condemn the scrutineers he says.

    That is right, academia is not worth the years of study and expertise gained, better to listen to agenda-based fringe dwellers whom only are there to sell books.

  25. Note to readers:

    the slobbering troll above deflects by projecting his own intellectual bankruptcy on me.

    But you are right, solker: w- academia is not worth the years of study when when kids are exposed to Mohammedan indoctrination instead of free scientific enquiry, they don’t gain expertise that way, and they better NOT listen to agenda-based fringe dwellers who are self appointed Stasi spitzels for the Mohammedan government of Morocco.

    Besides, you can always try and refute me on substance instead of spin. Why don’t you start with Quran 5:32 and knock yourself out?

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