US Terrorist Group CAIR Tells Florida Court There's No Such Thing as Honor Killing in Islam

Yid  with Lid: US Terrorist Group CAIR Tells Florida Court There’s No Such Thing as Honor Killings in Islam

rifqa-bary“A Muslim teen who fled from Ohio to Florida after becoming Christian swears her father will kill her if she goes back home. Florida authorities appear willing to take that chance.”

I guess we can all go home now.  The lawyers for the parents of Rifqa Bary assured the court today that there is no such thing as honor killing in Islam. The attorneys who are employees of CAIR said that Rifqa’s concerns were unfounded. And if CAIR says so it must be true.

What they ignored is the major question, why are employees of an organization named by the DOJ as a sponsor of terrorism allowed to operate as lawyers in the United States. It seems to me that they should be in court as defendants, not attorneys.

Sheik sez: What’s the world coming to? Nothing is Islamic anymore, not even Islam. FGM? Tribal. Child marriage? Un-Islamic. Killing of apostates? Not in the Koran. Sharia? Ancient rulings. Killing unbelievers? Figment of your imagination. Child marriage? The Joozzz do it too.  Jihad? No such thing. Terror? That’s the Jooozz who are causing it.  Burqa, hijab, niqab: nothing to do with Islam, biblical dress! Killing of homosexuals? Watch Pat Robertson, he’s worse! Hate-preachers in the mosques? Un-Islamic!  Hey, what are you? Some kind of Islamophobe?

Fathima’s Fears

Islamism: A Muslim teen who fled from Ohio to Florida after becoming Christian swears her father will kill her if she goes back home. Florida authorities appear willing to take that chance.

Interesting:

The state believes her fears are unfounded after talking to the devout Muslim father and his lawyers, who work for the Council on American-Islamic Relations. And it’s expected to return her to his care.

Florida conducted a juvenile hearing after the father sued to regain custody of his 17-year-old daughter — Fathima Rifqa Bary — who sought shelter with a Christian family in Orlando after he allegedly threatened to kill her for changing her religion.

In their report, Florida authorities found: “Ms. Bary’s concern that she may be killed because of her conversion from Islam to Christianity remains a subjective and speculative concern.”

Based on the facts of the case — along with prior Muslim father-daughter “honor killings” inside America — we would argue that the concern is, on the contrary, very real. Consider that:

• Bary swore in a court filing that her father confronted her in her bedroom and said: “If you have this Jesus in your heart, you are dead to me!” And then, picking up a laptop as if to hit her, he allegedly added: “I will kill you!” A friend reported the incident to local police.

(The father, Mohamed Bary, admits grabbing the computer but says he meant only to throw it. He denies threatening her life.)

• The daughter also swore that her father punched her in the face on the way to mosque one day because she complained about wearing a hijab. (The father denies striking her.)

• Bary also testified her family’s radical mosque told her father to “deal with the situation” of her Christian conversion, a thinly veiled reference, she says, to honor killing.

The CAIR lawyers assured Florida investigators that there’s no such thing as honor killings in Islam. In fact, there is a requirement in Shariah, or Islamic, law for killing publicly declared apostates, and Bary announced leaving Islam on her Facebook page.

CNN and others in the mainstream media have made an issue of Bary’s truthfulness, and some details of her story don’t hold up. Notably, she said she hid her cheerleading because she feared her father’s disapproval.

But investigators say they saw photos of the girl in her cheerleading uniform prominently displayed in the family room of their Ohio home. (It’s not clear when the photos were put up, however, and investigators confirmed that at least the mother had denied her permission to join the squad.)

Bary’s mother told authorities that her husband believes that if their daughter returns home, she should practice Islam as long as she’s underage and living under their roof. What if she doesn’t? What then?


Honor Killing is such a stupid expression. There is no honor in this kind of cowardly killing. New Years eve two years ago, Yaser Abdel Said killed his two teenaged daughters Sarah and Amina Yaser in cold blood, shot them both because they became too westernized and they had non-Muslim boyfriends and then he ran away like the coward he is.

On December 31,  2006 the phone rang at Irving police dispatcher about 7:30 p.m. It was Sarah Said on the other end she kept saying over and over:

“I’m dying, I’m dying, I’m dying …

That was an Honor Killing despite what the attorneys paid for by the terrorist group CAIR say. And the court cannot let the same thing happen to Rifqa Bary

12 thoughts on “US Terrorist Group CAIR Tells Florida Court There's No Such Thing as Honor Killing in Islam”

  1. Public pressure should keep Ms. Bary safe – but the public do need to apply pressure. CAIR will use every trick in the book to force Ms. Bary back and she will be in danger. It is about time the American public said “Enough of CAIR” and that they do so very loudly.

  2. Not making a comment on the actual real evidence of the case, some factors should be pointed out. This is example of agenda-based reporting that is not based facts.

    CAIR is not a terrorist group, if it was it would have been baneed. It certainly has members with questionable links that have now had their finance base closed down but it is not terrorist.

    They are apparently assiting the parents on the case with funding. It is noted like an accussation. Thus it is fair to point out that Rafiqa Bary’s Christian based lawyers are being directly supported by Bostom, Spencer (thus Jihad-Watch) and Pamela Gellar directly.

    As a journalist has noted, these right-wingers have no right to report or comment as they are A PART OF THE CASE. Since Bostom and Spencer are linked to fundamentalist Christian groups, it is also worth noting that there is a distinct possibility that there is in fact pressure and duress on Rafiqa and that if let alone with time to reflect she may turn around and tell authorities that she just a) wants to go home or b) wishes everyone to go away, including the Christian zealots who are using her to capitalise their own agenda.

    But, since the reporting on this blog comes from a biased source, better we look for independant reported facts before coming to judgements on what is real or not.

    1. “CAIR is not a terrorist group”-

      “Islam doesn’t condone terrorism”

      “Lying is un-Islamic”

      “there is no global jihad”

      “FGM is tribal”

      “da Jooozz do it too”

      “Shari’a are ancient rulings”

      “Islam is a Religion of Peace”

      LOL!

  3. This is obscene, to let this Muslim agent of disinformation (aka lies) keep posting here. During WW2 would we print Nazi propaganda every day?

  4. Speaking of propoganda, this is Arius whom tried to tell us that Serbian Nationalist BS that the Srebrenica Massacre did not happen and was found out, considering I part of the first inquiry that turned up.

  5. “This is obscene, to let this Muslim agent of disinformation (aka lies) keep posting here. During WW2 would we print Nazi propaganda every day?”

    I say let Solky post, if only to feed some morbid curiosity. It also gives phsychologists a chance to observe one of the many spcimens of a warped sect humanity.

  6. “CAIR is not a terrorist group, if it was it would have been baneed. It certainly has members with questionable links that have now had their finance base closed down but it is not terrorist.”
    THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN BANEED(SIC) WOULD THEY SULKHER NOW WHERE IS THAT CONNECTION SET IN STONE SO EVER TERRORIST GROUP IS BANNED I THINK NOT. YOU ALSO SEEM TO THINK THAT FUNDING TERRORISTS DOES NOT MAKE YOU A TERRORIST STRANGE MOHAMMEDAN LOGIC.

  7. Realist loves his capital letters which I read was a strong sign on lack of self confidence, or he learn to type on a telex machine.

    Of course Realist has motives, no knowledge of the fight against terrorism and being an expat Brit with already signs of being the stereotype Expat Brit in Asia – we should excuse is boarish overtones. (Probably has more to do with the fact that he spends most of his nights in hotel bars complaining….. that constant Pommy Whinge…. . Are you that stereotype, did you get a mail-order bride?).

    CAIR, like them or not (I do not) has legitimacy or it would have been banned quick enough. Far-right wing blogs love to spout not following the law of the land and F this and F that, change this and change that but do not actually involve themselves to try and get things actually changed. Some run away to live in developing countries so that they can even scream louder but at a longer-than-arm’s distance.

    CAIR, so far, has shown what is known in the terrorist business as third-party links and though much of the US anti-counterfeit and Patriot Act messures are strong and draconian, is legally and morally bound not to attack third-party linked organisations (though it certainly does not stop them investigating). Right-winger whom wish to have such laws abused (and claim individuals that they do not “like” as “traitors” have no concept of how legal process and law enforcement works. They certainly have never heard of the “steps of separation” which after the third and fourth association, most people are linked to everyone else. Realist may be related through his wife to the Bali Bombers or at least by three levels of separation.

    CAIR has links directly to individuals whom are then third party associated to multiple “building funds” in countries that do not allow investigation into their links and are more than likely paying for some terrorist activities. That US laws do not inhibit US nationals going and investing into such companies is still an issue on the drawing board and needs to be addressed quickly. Realist is unaware of what by day-job is.

  8. Not at all you fool Solkher I was merely using capitals to differentiate what I say from the nonsense and Mohammedan propaganda you post. But hey who would think a Troll like you would be capable of seeing that.

  9. Regret what? Expat, exMil Brit now living in Asia, I never make assumptions but since you and the blog owne try and push the line on stereo types, saying the reality on the ground then we can also assume you drink too much beer, spend your nights in hotels, married but perhaps a mail order bride who is likely still staying at home and you spend your time half drunk, annoying everyone with comments about anything and everything mostly in a whinging fashion and you still wink and try and pick up the locak girls whoes business it is to hang around in those bars. Close?

    But no, I do not do that, I have a bit of honor and descency of which you have shown absolutely zip.

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