8 thoughts on “Why don't we listen to Anjem Choudary?”

  1. Yet again the blog-owner actively supports and encourages all Muslims to be a supporter of Choudary. Why would he do that? Because it is to his own political-religio and nationalistic agenda to do so. Shameful.

    1. solker, pray tell:

      how does your agenda differ from Choudary?

      You disagree with liberal democracy and the capitalist system which you want to replace by some kind of nebulous “good governance”, a Mohammedan concept, no doubt. Choudary is just more outspoken about it and calls it sharia. If you disagree with him, why don’t you state clearly what your disagreements are?

      Capitalism works because all other system have failed. You may not like liberal democracy, but I prefer it a million times over a mohammedan despot who chops my head off in a public square when I don’t cultivate a zebiba like you do,

  2. Solkhar the snitch, serial blasphemer and food critic wrote “Yet again the blog-owner actively supports and encourages all Muslims to be a supporter of Choudary.”

    Solkhar, when you are dobbing people in, do you use fictioned up “evidence” like the above?

  3. * You disagree with liberal democracy and the capitalist system

    He seems to have done quite well out of it – homes in Morocco and
    Holland, new Merc in the garage, and apparently was a diplomat &
    political officer for Holland – once upon a time a liberal democracy.

    Biting the hand that feeds?

  4. Q: how does your agenda differ from Choudary?

    A: Greatly.

    Accussation/Assumption: “You disagree with liberal democracy and the capitalist system which you want to replace by some kind of nebulous “good governance”, a Mohammedan concept, no doubt.”

    A: No, and I did not say that I do not like, detest or do not agree with liberal western democracy. What I said, not that you interesed in accuracy, is that it was the single greatest mistake for developing countries to have it forced upon them. LWD is fine for those countries that require, need or want it. I spoke about the word “democracy” being the most abused and over-used word in modern international , national and local politicals. I also said that the best system for a country depends on many factors, such as historical ties and systems that are suitable for that counrtry. Monarch for here in Morocco is the best system, works the best but is not suited for a country that has never had, no need for and is not wanting it. A country that is, for example ravaged by war, infighting, a failed legal system and starvation may require a strong-man and perhaps chosen by the strongest force, and when the situation changes – then chose differently.

    Comment: “Choudary is just more outspoken about it and calls it sharia. If you disagree with him, why don’t you state clearly what your disagreements are?

    Response: I do make myself clear, all the time, but someone with an agenda likes to cut, paste, snip and misinterpret to satisfy their own personal bigoted agenda. I have time and time again apposed three factors that are always spouted by these radicals – 1) Shari’a Law is not needed nor necessary in this modern age, anyhwere and its basis is questionable as there are as many versions of Shari’a as there are groups claiming it. 2) the Caliphate concept is just that and the opportunity, reasoning and even basic desire amongst Muslims is not and has not been there except for again these radicals, and 3) the concept of Jihad outside main stream Islamic authorities is heretical, not valid and haram. There has been no sanctioned/approved/declared jihad since the end of the Crusades, as much as the blog-owner wished there was. Even the creation of the State of Israel and its annexation of Al Qods (Jerusalem) was not concidered sufficient, even though radicals then screamed and demanded it.

    Comment: “Capitalism works because all other system have failed. ”

    Response: Capitalism is fine by me, within the prescripts of morality. Immorality, such as loaning on hedge funds has always for my part been immoral and the world is in the sh*t, economically speaking, because of such immoralities. I am not talking Islamically speaking, basic rules and regulations. As for Islamically speaking, the concept is also considered immoral and for my part prooved it.

    Your last comment: “You may not like liberal democracy, but I prefer it a million times over a mohammedan despot who chops my head off in a public square when I don’t cultivate a zebiba like you do”.

    My last response: “the fact that you got it wrong and my comments have now cleared up your garbage proves a lot. As for your automatica assumption that I support simply any Muslim despot is justed “wacked in the head” and I would like to remind you that in all the above you comments and assumptions were simply put – way off as per usual.

    I said and I will repeat it, the correct word and in fact system that is needed is “Good Governance”, that is to say whatever legal/political system that works, allows for growth, development and the correct level of freedoms and liberties that the population and its systems are able to maturely handle.

    I am happy though, that you did not say that the US democratic system is the best, because then we can disagree all night and again I am happy to debate. The French Republic for me is a better system and though a Monarchy, Australia probably is as good if not better, it at least has obligated voting and the government knows it has a mandate that is real.

    1. Indeed, solker.

      I have never stated that the US democratic system is the best. I will always uphold the US constitution as the best in the world, but the democratic system in the US is in tatters. But the beauty of the system is the first and second amendment, so one way or another the people get to decide.

      The French Republic is a Socialist swamp and has been bankrupt for years. Australia would do a lot better if it rigorously stopped the spread of Islam and reversed Islamic immigration.

      That’s what’s necessary now and it will have to be done. But as usual, it will have to get a lot worse before it gets any better…

  5. Capitalism is fine by me, within the prescripts of morality”-
    what kind of morality, solker?

    Mohammedan morality?

    “As for your automatica assumption that I support simply any Muslim despot …”

    You are religiously obliged to look to the rulers with respect, solker.

    It is narrated in Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet pbuh said, “Listen, and obey, even if a Ethiopian slave is placed over you whose head is like a raisin.”

    “the correct level of freedoms and liberties that the population and its systems are able to maturely handle.”

    I’ll be damned! Solker snitch knows what these “correct levels of freedoms and liberties are that the population and its systems are able to maturely handle”- No thank you! Not for me you don’t, you totalitarian gestapo creep!

    Shari’a Law is not needed nor necessary in this modern age, anyhwere and its basis is questionable as there are as many versions of Shari’a..”

    Solker snitch, you are religiously obliged to follow the sharia. Your postings, all the droppings you deposited here before, clearly testify to that, the only one who doesn’t realize it is you. Choudary is a lot clearer and a lot more outspoken about it and in any case: the “radicals” always tend to get the upper hand.

    “the concept of Jihad outside main stream Islamic authorities”

    There is no such thing and there never will be. Islam doesn’t have ” main stream Islamic authorities”, that’s why we get so many “lone wolfes” who tend to get afflicted with Sudden Jihad Syndrome, solker.

    You are tiring, solker. You are wasting everybody’s time here. Are there any shrinks in Morocco that could try to sort you out?

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