The Arab/Moslem Koran specifically states in
The Qur’an 17:104 – states the land belongs to the Jewish people.

Muslims claim they are the “new Jews”, all previous religions are obsolete and to be replaced with Islam.

A true peace in the Middle East will be an economic phenomenon that the world has never seen. But this can only be accomplished when there is a real peace. The Arabs must stop preaching and teaching hate.

There can never be peace until the whole world is Islamic. That is the core belief of Islam. For Muslims to be means that ‘the other’ is not.

Hope that helps!

Tell the World they are delusional in thinking that Arabs belong in Israel – There will never be an Arab/Palestinian State together or adjacent to Eretz Israel.
There has never been such a nation as the Palestinian/Arab People.
The Arab/Moslem Koran specifically states in
The Qur’an 17:104 – states the land belongs to the Jewish people

If the historic documents, comments written by eyewitnesses and declarations by the most authoritative Arab scholars are still not enough, let us quote the most important source for Muslim Arabs:
“And thereafter we [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: ‘Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd’.”.
Any sincere Muslim must recognize the Land they call “Palestine” as the Jewish Homeland, according to the book considered by Muslims to be the most sacred word and Allah’s ultimate revelation.

Any building of housing in The Greater Israel is the right and duty of the Israeli government. There is no such a thing as occupied territory. It is the land of Israel for over 4,000 years.

Sequence of historical events, agreements and a non-broken series of treaties and resolutions, as laid out by the San Remo Resolution, the League of Nations and the United Nations, gives the Jewish People title to the city of Jerusalem and the rest of Israel.
Let the Arab nation take the Palestinian Arabs and settle the in the Million plus Jewish home that they evicted from their countries and allow the Jewish nation to live in peace.
A true peace in the Middle East will be an economic phenomenon that the world has never seen. But this can only be accomplished when there is a real peace. The Arabs must stop preaching and teaching hate.
Any liberal Israeli that is delusional about Arab intention and wants to give any land in Israel to the Arabs should live Israel; he does not belong in Israel.
YJ Draiman, Northridge, CA

So religion bothers you. Strange enough, it seems the existence of Israel bothers you too. You don’t see a problem with an ever increasing number of Islamic states?

“It appears to me that the argument against Palestine being judenrein is itself OT.”

An absurd statement that can hardly be taken seriously. “Palestine” is an invention by imam al Husseini and Yasser Arafat who capitalized on it.

“Palestine” doesn’t exist. It has no history, no people and no coinage. It is the name the Romans gave to biblical Israel when they destroyed the Jewish nation. We are in a new phase of a very old war, a religious war. If you deny the religious aspect, that means you understand nothing about the Middle East or Israel at all.

That you are under no delusions is debatable.

Enlightenment re why ‘it’ is called ‘Judea and Samaria.’”

First of all Judea and Samaria are the historical names for an area that has been inhabited by Jews for more than 3000 years. “West Bank” is an effort by the enemies of Israel to denigrate the claims of the Jewish people. Obviously, history means nothing to you of the enlightened progressives for whom all lands are just real estate. For you only a value free, utopian society, preferably ‘egalitarian’ is the ideal that will make humanity wholesome, progressive sustainable, global and……………… fill in the rest yourself!

“I remind you that it was the Christian nations that fought for the emancipation of the Arabs from the (Islamic) Turks and that the Jews had flourished under the Turks at that time.”

I beg to differ. Read “Islam and Dhimmitude” by Bat Ye’or, or read some Andrew Bostom. Both of them have done tremendous work to undue the Islamic myths that are so readily propagated by willing tools…

Helpful hints: Reversing the roles of the Arabs and Israel

Israel is not an occupier. The Arabs of Gaza were not under “occupation”; they were living on land that by right had been allocated to the Jews of the Middle East and North Africa, and yet the Israelis never treated them as the Jews had been treated by Muslim Arabs. They never tried to evict them. Indeed, they gave them, even under military rule, the best government they had had until then, and the best government they are likely ever to have had — given the lords of misrule whom the Muslim Arab world throws up, and must, because of that blend of support for despotism, inshallah-fatalism, that inculcated habit of mental submission, and the rigid total belief-system that is, and forever will be Islam, and that alone explains the political, economic, social, moral, and intellectual failures of Muslim states and peoples.

There is more, there is always more, you know that.

For example this:

Denying the thousands of years of Jewish connection to the Land of Israel, coupled with the invention of “Palestinian” history of thousands of years, have always been of supreme importance to the Palestinian Authority. The PA is struggling with the challenge of creating a Palestinian national identity when no Palestinian national history exists. Even the term “Palestine” historically had nothing to do with Arab identity, and most of the population only migrated in the last century after the improved living conditions and work opportunities brought about by the Zionist movement.

Thus, incessant denial of Israel’s history and right to exist, and the
invention of a PA history have been backbones of PA indoctrination and
education for years.

In a broadcast last week on PA TV the following are some of the main
points of the “history”.

1. The Hebrews of the Bible have no connection to the Jews today.
2. The Hebrews of the Bible were Arabs.
3. The Prophets of the Bible were Muslims.
4. Biblical King Solomon was a Muslim Prophet.
5. Solomon’s Temple was not built by Israelites but by Arab Canaanites.
6. The Canaanites are the forefathers of the Palestinians
7. The Bible is legends based on what Jews imagined and not on history.
8. The Jews today are descendents of a 13 th Century Khazar tribe with
no history in the Land of Israel.
9. The location of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem is a Zionist invention.
10. Zionism is Racism.

So you see; I left the bible out of it. You deny the historical and religious claims of the Torah as well, so what’s bugging you? The existence of Israel?

Tell me then: If Israel were destroyed, If all the Jews were killed, or resettled somewhere in the West, would the global jihad stop?

Would Arabs and Muslims, who follow an ideology of global conquest, then stop jihad warfare (currently) in more than 30 theaters of war around the world?

“You are most welcome to find yourself a blog-post about “understanding of the Age of Enlightenment and the Revolutions”.

“So far, your ‘contribution’ here has been OT.”

It appears to me that the argument against Palestine being judenrein is itself OT.

An argument FOR the secular state embraces the notion of RELIGIOUS FREEDOM in civil society.

What is the logic in finding another thread to argue it, therefore?

Let me give it to you again. RELIGION bothers me, period.

I am under no delusion, however, that the world will suddenly forego its stale belief systems and become rational.

I really hoped you would enlighten me with the knowledge you alluded to having in relation to ” why ‘it’ is called ‘Judea and Samaria.’” I guess you couldn’t do that without quoting the Bible, just like Muslims can’t act without quoting the Kuran. Hence, I make no ESSENTIAL distinctions between the religious. They all operate with the same mindset.

Might I remind you that it was the Christian nations that fought for the emancipation of the Arabs from the (Islamic) Turks and that the Jews had flourished under the Turks at that time.

History is an unforgiving lover. Desert her, and she’ll come back to ruin everything you cherish.

I have a very clean conscience. Thanks for asking. :)

You are most welcome to find yourself a blog-post about “understanding of the Age of Enlightenment and the Revolutions”.

So far, your ‘contribution’ here has been OT.

Your understanding of the Age of Enlightenment and the Revolutions is, quite obviously, different to mine – which doesn’t surprise me in the least.

I just asked you why Israel bothers you and 57 Islamic states don’t.

I don’t know what you see when you look in a mirror, but whatever it is, its you who has to live with it….

Implicit in my latest replies to you and to the incognito Christian is the questioning of ALL religious states. Why does that keep going over your head?

You’re not about to call me an antisemite, are you?

Is ONE Jewish state too much for you?