“Sun setting on the West’s dominance”, Malaysian academic’s wet dream
H/T Islamization Watch
Parliament of the World’s Religions, Melbourne Australia:
- Tariq Ramadan said the problem was a clash of perceptions, which led both the West and Muslims to see themselves as victims.
”We have to understand that Islam is now a Western religion. Not only must Muslims integrate in the West, but the West must accept Islam,” he said. (I think we must not….)
The west must accept Islam – what does that mean? Would it not be better for these Muslim spokespersons to go and tell – the Islamic world – they must accept Christianity?
I could agree there is a clash in perceptions – for example westerns have an idea about freedom, rights and democracy – which many Muslims oppose – and would like to see replaced with Sharia or ‘aspects’ of Sharia. His goal in Holland – was not as he was hired to do – which was to help Muslims to integrate into Dutch society – he it seemed had a better idea – why not shape Dutch politicians – media – teachers around Islam. An idea he put forward in several proposals – was called dictatorial and was rejected. Perhaps this is what he means by ‘the west must accept Islam’. He was later fired from his post as adviser to the Dutch gov. and Dutch university lecturer – when he accepted a position to host a show on Iran’s state run Press TV.
This Parliament of Religions seems like a real jamboree of double speak.
THE epoch of Western dominance is coming to an end, which should reduce the danger of a clash between Islam and the West, a Malaysian academic said in Melbourne yesterday. (The military, technological and economical power of the West causes great envy and inferiority complexes in Muslims, who are by the law of allah destined to rule over us and subjugate us to dhimmi status)
”The power equation is changing. A new global conversation has to begin,” Chandra Mufazzar told the Parliament of the World’s Religions. (ever heard of a second wind, buddy?)
”The decline is irreversible. The US is in serious trouble, the largest debtor nation in the world. (the US is also the biggest donor nation in the world and the decline is reversible.) The last few years have shown that military power has its limits and, most importantly, other centres of power have emerged: China, India, and a reassertion of Russian power.” (We have not even begun to utilize our military power, brother)
Dr Mufazzar, professor of international studies at University Sains Malaysia and founder of the International Movement for a Just World, (which means a world under sharia) said a relationship of dominance and control led to humiliation and anger in the Muslim world, and to violence. (If only we submit to Islam! Everything would be so hunky dory)
Addressing a session on Islam and the West, he also criticised the media, saying it had ‘‘failed us as a human family”. (Critical media fails to promote the Islamic cause and is therefore undesirable)
”We need a conversation with three dimensions. First, respect, which will only emerge when there’s a feeling of equality. Second, learn to be inclusive. Sections of the Muslim community see things in very exclusivist terms, which is inimical to the world we want. (No. We don’t need conversation. Respect has to be earned, not demanded. Islam does not include the unbelievers, so why should we include them? The Muslims exclude the kuffars from their societies, we need to exclude them from ours)
”Third, whatever our differences, we must not resort to violence because the global conversation breaks down. We either flourish together or perish together.” (He is telling us not to retaliate against Islam terror, because that damages the advances of Islam. I suggest we withdraw our support, our aid and trade from Mohammedan nations. In that way we won’t perish together. Let them stew in their own juices!)
Dr Mufazzar said Asia did not see Australia as part of the US hegemony. (Of course not. That’s why Bali 1 & 2 and the bombing of the Australian embassy in Jakarta…)
Leading European Muslim spokesman Tariq Ramadan said the problem was a clash of perceptions, which led both the West and Muslims to see themselves as victims. (No. The problem is that our politicians are wimps who ignore the Islamic danger.)
”We have to understand that Islam is now a Western religion. Not only must Muslims integrate in the West, but the West must accept Islam,” he said. (Never was, never will be. The West will not and must not ever “accept Islam.”)
In an earlier session on Islam, social justice, gender justice and religious diversity, leading American Muslim spokesman Abdul Feisal Rauf said the problem was not the Koran, which commanded justice and equality, but Muslims’ failure to follow it. (The “immutable” Koran is the guidebook to terrorism, oppression, hatred and annihilation. We need to ban that damned book!)
”The problem is not the ideal but the reality of Muslims. We know very well what God wants – the challenge is to deliver.” (Suicide bombers and Islamic terrorism deliver every day…)
The New York-based imam, the founder and chairman of the interfaith Cordoba Initiative, said one problem was the artificial concept of the religious leader, which introduced egotism and competition. The Koranic concept was, rather, servant and guide.
Imam Rauf said Muslims needed all the help they could get from other faith communities, because the disease of religious extremism and false interpretation was found in all. (Worry about your own religion, imam. Go home!)
{ 11 comments… read them below or add one }
”We have to understand that Islam is now a Western religion. Not only must Muslims integrate in the West, but the West must accept Islam,” he said.
As the referendum in Switzerland has shown, with widespread support of the Swiss by Europeans, the people of Europe do NOT accept Islam as part of Europe. In fact they expressly show that they regard Islam as foreign body, that is inimical to the traditions of Europe.
Muslims live in Europe, fair enough, but they are not part of it.
When Muslims stop lying, killing, give everyone (women, non-Muslims) equal rights, etc then I will accept crapslam. Until then it is on the same level as other fascist regimes like the Nazis, Stalin and Mao’s communism, etc. Putting the aura of holiness around the same things that Stalin and Mao had his people do would have lowered those fascisms to the same level as crapslam. Imagine Stalin’s men yelling out ‘Stalinahu Akbar’, or the Nazi’s yelling out ‘Hitlerahu Akbar’ before their slaughter – it is the same sort of evil.
“… Nazi’s yelling out ‘Hitlerahu Akbar’ before their slaughter …”
While Western governments, the UN and the media dismiss them as misunderstanders of Nazism and fawn all over them, giving them all sorts of concessions in a vain attempt to avert another Kristallnacht …
* International Movement for a Just World, (which means a world under sharia)
In a nut shell:
just-international.org/index.php/objectives
Towards that end, JUST has dedicated itself to the following five goals:
5. To inculcate within the human family, a universal spiritual and moral vision of life rooted in the oneness of God which will serve to guide humankind in its quest for a just world.
One guess as to which “god” Chandra Mufazzar serves, and which
false prophet:
[Seven, isn’t such intolerance a betrayal of the respect for differences of opinion, and for dissent, embodied in Quranic Thought and in the practice of the Prophet?] 4 November 2009 Chandra Muzaffar
Islam is NOT a western religion. And muslims are not part of our societies.
The Western World is dealing with a crowd that has been fed with crap from banyhood only about the crap and they know nothing else and CANNOT think of anything else. They have in fact become robots in human flesh. When they cannot find food, shelter and other normal human requirements they migrate shamelesslt to other countries thast have advanced technologically; holistically; civil minded in character and bathed in the meaning of LOVE as preached by all other faiths. Love has no meaning to these immigrants. They murder in the name of honour. They maim women in their private parts in the name of the faith. In the process they expect their women not to be sexually climaxed and run after other boys and men. They block every view of their women folk and keep them dumb as possible without any means of education. In fact they are merely mules meant to carry the burden of men, give sex satisfaction which they may themselves not enjoy because of mutilated clitoris, bring up broods of children and pander to every whim and fancy of their husband. Most cases more clitoris clipped women will serve one man.
So, how can the West deal with such mutiliated specimens. Switzerland has made the start. The West must start saying it means business and forget about the BULLSHIT about democracy, equal rights, fairness etc when dealing with them. They have their God given lands to practise their religion. Maybe a Charlemagne or El Cid is required to waken up the Europeans again to send these migrants babk to their hell holes and Religious Leaders of great faith..
The USA has had no experience in dealing with them as Europe has done since the inception.
So, it is more appropriate the Europe tightens the rope and as Spain did a few hundred years ago – send THEM BACK for your own good.
How, pray tell, can Islamists ever integrate into dar al-Harb?
It’s against their whole ideology.
Tariq is full of taqiyya, methinks.
“Taqiyya” is kind of like “tequila”…the more you drink in… the fuzzier the logic.
This conman pretending to be a (Swiss) philosopher wrote a book about his bogus prophet. It is not worth the paper it was printed on. Did he not understand that the unbelievers have access now to the most authentic books of his religion?
* “The New York-based imam, the founder and chairman of the interfaith Cordoba Initiative …”
Oh, the same “imam” who leads the “Shariah Index Project”?
This one?
thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090721/NATIONAL/707209836/1138
Shariah Index will rate countries’ Islamic law
[The Shariah Index Project is led by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, a New York-based cleric who heads the Cordoba Initiative, a multinational project to improve relations between Muslim countries and the West.]
[“What are the principles that make a state Islamic? We can say among them is justice, protection of religion and minorities and elimination of poverty, and so on.”
The Cordoba Initiative, which co-sponsored the Wise conference, is a non-profit organisation with offices in New York and Kuala Lumpur. It is funded by the Malaysian government and other sources in both western and Muslim countries.
So far the project has produced a book of scholarly essays on the concept of measuring a nation’s “Islamicity”, providing a theoretical foundation for the index.]
[“It will create an annual rating, a score to rate countries on how compliant they are,” said Imam Feisal.
“And we’d like to index both Organisation of Islamic Countries (OIC) and non-OIC countries, because we know some non-OIC countries will score higher than some OIC members on some principles like justice, protection of minorities and so on.”]
[Determining Islamic principles had been the easy part, he said.
In classical Islamic jurisprudence the ruler must be someone who is “wise and upholds the Shariah”, he explained. ]
[The pillars of Shariah are based on five – some say six sacrosanct rights and principles. Breaching any of them is considered a major sin that requires punishment.]
[It was this principle that the Muslim world evoked during the controversy over cartoons lampooning the Prophet that were published in a Danish newspaper. The same principle prohibits Muslims from satirising elements of any religion.
Another pillar is the protection of dignity and honour, which can be used as a basis for punishing slander, which recently became a crime in the UAE under the country’s new media law.]
[Protection of the mind or intellect includes the protection of sobriety, the basis for prohibiting Muslims from drinking alcohol or using any mind-altering substance, except under a doctor’s orders.]
Yep, that’s him, Mullah.
Islam, only Islam matters.
The sooner he is impeached the better!
http://www.theage.com.au/national/obama-team-seeks-enlightenment-on-muslim-relations-20091209-kk24.html