For Sheila Musaji of course, from the The American Muslim via the Bunglawussi blog. Sheila was featured here on several occasions:
- How dumb; or how clever is Sheila Musaji?
- Sheila Musaji identifies the enemies of Islam: the Jooozzz!
Over at The American Muslim Sheila Musaji exposes the hate campaign being waged by Minneapolis attorney Lynne Torgerson, who is standing against incumbent Keith Ellison, the first Muslim to be elected to the US Congress, in next year’s elections.
Torgerson’s website features an extended, bigoted rant against Muslims. She writes:
“The Quran actually teaches Muslims to kill people not of their faith, which are labeled infidels, which includes Christians and Jews, as well as people of other faiths…. Further, evidently, the goal of Islam is to Islamize the entire world, or, global Islam. I believe there is a term, ‘umrah’ [sic] that reflects this goal…. Islam also oppresses women.”
Torgerson asks “what do I know of Islam?” (A good question, you might think.) She answers: “Well, I know of 911. Nineteen (19) men from Saudi Arabia, all Muslim, hi-jacked planes, and flew into the two (2) World Trade Towers murdering thousands of people, and tried to fly into our Pentagon, and some believe they also tried to fly an airplane into our White House. From this, what I perceive is Islam conducting an act of war against my country….
“What else have I heard about Muslims? Fort Hood. What was the result of the teachings of Islam on a Muslim, who was an officer in the United States’ military? Well, the result was him killing, I believe, 13 American soldiers, and injuring many others. Not one person killed or injured was a Muslim. In another book I am currently reading, entitled Muslim Mafia, it is suggested that Muslims want to infiltrate our police departments, our governments, etc., with the goal of Islamizing America….
“And who does all of this bring us to? Keith Ellison. Who is Keith Ellison? He is my opposing candidate for the Fifth Congressional District seat. Keith Ellison is a Muslim….”
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There is a lot in Islam to hate, I mean to say, there are apostates who dislike/hate it too.
I never saw such a touchy super-sensitive crowd in all of my life. Over fourteen thousand terrorist attacks and still they moan like this.
All of which brings on Islamophobia – but at least this illness from which I suffer took my mind of both my agoraphobia and hypochondria – this is great – I’M CURED!!
The best cure for Islamophobia is knowledge of what baloney Islam is.
http://go.to/islamhistory
Well done One Love – you have just discovered a useful reason for the exisitence of mohemmedans – you should win 1 millions dollars because no one else has!!!
Cowards: The American Muslim begs Muslim leaders to stop debating Robert Spencer
Sheila Musaji throws hissy fits against “professional Islamophobes”- and Robert Spencer is the worst:
Oh, this is rich. Apparently my recent debates with Muslim leaders have left the Islamic establishment in the U.S. so embarrassed that Sheila Musaji, whose lies I have exposed in the past, is now throwing under the bus some of the Muslim spokesmen whom I have debated recently, and pleading with Muslims to stop debating me.
The truth stings, eh, Sheila? “The American Muslim Communities’ “Useful Idiots,”” by Sheila Musaji in The American Muslim, May 19 (thanks to James):
A Muslim “useful idiot” is an individual who may believe that they are being a force for good, but who are either naive or a publicity seeker whose actions and words actually give support to the cause of the Islamophobes. [...]
Some of these “useful idiots” are people who think that it makes sense to appear on the television or radio programs of individuals like Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, or Michael Savage, and “defend” Islam against professional Islamophobes like Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Brigitte Gabriel, etc. The problem is that they are usually not qualified to speak on behalf of anyone but themselves. When they come out looking foolish, the audience takes their inability to convincingly defend whatever claim is being made as “proof” that there is no defense. They do a great deal of harm to the entire community.
The reality here, of course, is that the truth is not on their side, and Geller, Gabriel and I pierce through their taqiyya fog. How dreadfully inconvenient for them!
Engaging with such known Islamophobes only gives them credibility. Engaging with them on their “turf” and under their rules, cannot do anything other than provide them more fuel for their prejudiced attacks on Islam and Muslims. Examples of useful debates might be those on the Young Turks site hosted by Cenk Uygur Here is one of these TYT debates. Another example of the possibility of an honest debate would be a case like that of Reza Aslan debating Robert Spencer on the relatively neutral CNN with Christiane Amanpour as the moderator.
It was ABC, not CNN, and it wasn’t a “debate” at all. It was Aslan retailing lies and defamation while my mic was cut off so that my responses were not recorded. Small wonder that that would be the sort of one-sided, rigged exchange that The American Muslim would favor. As this article shows, they certainly can’t handle a level playing field.
It is a very different situation when the Islamophobes are not allowed to control the debate. When both the host of the program and the individual being debated are both Islamophobes, there is not much chance that a Muslim participant will be given an honest hearing. They are not “fair and balanced” and the outcome is pretty much rigged.
This is silly, of course. I rarely deal with neutral moderators, and most are on the other side. I debated the dhimmi tool Dinesh D’Souza with the stealth Islamic supremacist Suhail Khan moderating, and it went very well. If Sheila Musaji wants to set up a debate with me with an opponent, moderator and venue of her own choosing, I am ready. But she doesn’t dare. She wants all the debates rigged like the exchange with Aslan on ABC, and then — in yet another example of Islamic supremacist projection — accuses the other side of rigging debates, and throws a Muslim leader to the wolves:
An individual named Mohamed El-Hassan or Elhassan is an informative case in point. [...]
It is no surprise to see that Robert Spencer has just posted a video of a “debate” between himself and this fake Sheikh on the subject of Islam and human rights. His only lead in to the video is Here is my debate last night on ABN with Sheikh Mohamed El-Hassan of the Texas Islamic Center on the question, “Does Islam respect human rights?” The first half hour of the show is an interview with Walid Phares; the debate starts after that.
Like Terry Jones, Spencer has come up against the difficulty of finding any legitimate Muslim scholars to involve themselves with his publicity stunts, as the scholars and leadership in the American Muslim community are now only too aware of his modus operandi. And so he needs to attempt to get some mileage from pointless “debates” with uninformed Muslims who seem to also be only interested in publicity….
Definition of a “fake Sheikh” and an “uninformed Muslim who is only interested in publicity”: one who loses to me in a debate.
There are other individuals like Mike Ghouse, also from Texas, who fall into this category, but seem to genuinely believe that engagement with these individuals might have some positive outcome.
He has been on the Sean Hannity program at least a dozen times. You can view a list of these programs here, however in order to view them you need to sign up and pay a monthly fee to the Sean Hannity Insider. Hannity is making money every way he can off of his bigotry. Some of these debates are available on You Tube – e.g. debating Robert Spencer on radicalism here – debating Spencer on Imam Rauf and the Cordoba House project here – debating Pamela Geller on Cordoba House project here.