"Small Numbers of Extremists…"

The media keeps telling us that we are dealing with only a “small number of extremists”, but what evidence do they have for that? How would they know?  Why  do Western journo’s  spike every report with a sedative when the Islamic doctrine demands the overthrow of democracy and the secular nation state? Is not every Muslim  obliged to remove all obstacles in the way to establishing the sharia?

U.K.: Islamic Forum of Europe, named in attempts to infiltrate Labour Party, “inextricably linked” to East London mosque/JW

The East London Mosque  &  The secret world of IFE (Islamic Forum of Europe)

For most of the 15,000 ordinary Muslims who pray there each week, it is simply a place of worship. For many, it provides valuable social facilities, and creche and outreach services.

But for a small number, the mosque is the headquarters of a secretive, fundamentalist political network. The Islamic Forum of Europe is dedicated, in its own words, to changing the “very infrastructure of society, its institutions, its culture, its political order and its creed … from ignorance to Islam”.

The mosque and IFE are inextricably intertwined. Dr Mohammed Abdul Bari, the chairman of the mosque, and its vice-chairman are former IFE presidents.

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The director and imam of the mosque are trustees of the group. Of 22 IFE trustees in recent years, only five have not also been trustees or officeholders of the religious centre.

The mosque calls the IFE a “social welfare organisation” and the IFE presents itself as committed to “community cohesion” and “tolerance”.

But the undercover reporters discovered that it was also a sophisticated political group with a structured rank system and hardline goals.

Prospective recruits must attend training. One undercover reporter was told that she would have to take an exam and swear an oath of allegiance and ordered to keep her membership of the IFE a secret.

The reading list for the recruits’ training course consists of the key works of the revolutionary political creed known as Islamism, which advocates the overthrow of secular democratic government and its replacement by Islamic government. (Not Islamism. Islam. Just Islam/ed)

The key text, Let Us Be Muslims, by Syed Mawdudi, a high priest of Islamism, instructs recruits: “The sacred duty of Muslims … wherever you are, in whichever country you live, you must strive to change the wrong basis of government, and seize all powers to rule and make laws from those who do not fear God Allah.”

This newspaper obtained an official transcript from the two-day annual training camp held for the IFE’s youth wing, the Young Muslim Organisation UK, held in Leicestershire last June. In one talk, Muhammad Rabbani, a trustee of the youth wing, told the recruits: “Our goal is to create the True Believer, [and] to then mobilise these believers into an organised force for change who will carry out dawah [preaching], hisbah [enforcement of Islamic law] and jihad. This will lead to social change and Iqamatud-Deen [an Islamic social and political order].”

The nature of that Islamic social and political order in Britain was made clear when Mr Rabbani said: “Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.” He instructed the recruits to “protect yourselves” from music, television and “free mixing with women in that which is not necessary”.

Another speaker, Shaikh Abdullah Zainal Abideen, told the trainees: “Victory is for Islam and Muslims”, stressing the importance of “distinguishing … who the enemies are, both from outside the circle of Islam and within the circle of Islam”.

Mr Abideen attacked key moderate Muslims for “flirting with the West and the media to convince them that we are ‘good peaceful Muslims’”.

He said they were examples of “deviation” who would go to hell. Another IFE document said: “IFE’s primary work is in Europe because it is this continent, despite all the furore about its achievements, which has a moral and spiritual vacuum.”

Azad Ali, the IFE’s community affairs coordinator, was filmed by the undercover reporters stating: “Democracy, if it means at the expense of not implementing the sharia, no one’s going to agree with that.”

The IFE is not itself a violent organisation. None of its members is known to have been personally implicated in any terrorist act and it has, apparently sincerely, condemned terrorist attacks in London.

However, the IFE appears satisfied to host speakers who advocate hatred and violence. Several of its senior officials, including Mr Ali, until recently defended Anwar al-Awlaki, who is blamed for inspiring at least three terrorist attacks, including September 11 and the attempted underwear bombing in Detroit.

Several IFE activists and officials, including Mr Ali, support Hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organisation by the British and American governments. Mr Ali advocates the destruction of Israel, justifies the killing of British troops in Iraq, believes al-Qaeda is a “myth” and has praised Osama bin Laden’s mentor, Abdullah Azzam.

The mosque also insisted it was tolerant and liberal. Its assistant general secretary, Shaynul Khan, claimed it was “at the forefront of promoting integration [and] cohesion”. Dr Bari has promised: “If I hear of a specific preacher inciting hatred, I will ban him from the mosque.” (hatepreacher for him means anyone opposing Islam or the sharia/ed)

The investigation by this newspaper has established that far from being “banned”, hate and extremist preachers regularly appear at the mosque. It has hosted at least 27 of them over the past three years, and at least 18 of them over the past year alone.

They included Murtaza Khan, who said at the mosque that any woman who used perfume was an adulterer; Bilal Philips, named by the US government as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing; Hussein Yee, who said September 11 was a conspiracy of the Jews; and Mr al-Awlaki, whose last video talk at the mosque, on Jan 1, 2009, was advertised with a poster of New York under bombardment.

The mosque claimed it was a neutral host and welcomed all-comers. However, it officially hosts some extremists — for example, in August 2008 Mr Philips was invited to give Friday prayers.

Some moderate Muslims have claimed they were not welcome at the mosque. Maajid Nawaz, the director of the Quilliam Foundation think tank, said he was refused permission to appear there for an Institute for Public Policy Research event in November 2008. “They [the institute] were told that my views were unacceptable,” he said.

13 thoughts on “"Small Numbers of Extremists…"”

  1. “Small Numbers of Extremists…”
    by sheikyermami on February 28, 2010

    ‘..The mosque and IFE are inextricably intertwined. Dr Mohammed Abdul Bari, the chairman of the mosque, and its vice-chairman are former IFE presidents…’

    And this is the guy they want to give a Lord Peerage in the House of Lords?????????

  2. “Small Numbers of Extremists…”
    by sheikyermami on February 28, 2010

    INFILTRATION WATCH!
    Australia has its own Bari!

    Australia Day honours for ANU staff
    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://info.anu.edu.au/mac/Newsletters_and_Journals/On_Campus/097PP_2006/002PP_February/_images/web_amin_saikal2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://info.anu.edu.au/mac/Newsletters_and_Journals/On_Campus/097PP_2006/002PP_February/_austday.asp&usg=__WEnfz5uFHtvpRRrGb-HuygXS9Zk=&h=330&w=216&sz=26&hl=en&start=12&itbs=1&tbnid=fTJddgnZAjMqrM:&tbnh=119&tbnw=78&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAmin%2BSaikal%2Bis%2Bprofessor%2Bof%2Bpolitical%2Bscience%2Band%2Bdirector%2Bof%2Bthe%2BCentre%2Bfor%2BArab%2Band%2BIslamic%2BStudies%2B(the%2BMiddle%2BEast%2Band%2BCentral%2BAsia)%2Bat%2Bthe%2BAustralian%2BNational%2BUniversity.%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1

    …Professor Amin Saikal
    As the Director for the Centre for Arab and Islamic Studies (CAIS), Professor Amin Saikal is regularly called upon by governments and the media to make sense of the complex issues surrounding Islam and the Middle East. In CAIS, he has built up Australia’s premier research and teaching institution on matters relating to the Middle East and Central Asia. In the process, he is forging stronger links between Australia and the regions he studies. He has been awarded a Member in the General Division (AM) in the Order of Australia for his services to the international community.

    When did you start at ANU? In what capacity?

    I started as an undergraduate at ANU in 1972, and finished my PhD in 1979. In 1983 I was appointed to a lectureship in the Department of Political Science, and then in 1994 I was given a promotion to professorship.

    What is your current role entail?

    I was responsible for establishing CAIS in 1994. Now we’ve grown to a fairly sizeable centre of excellence in teaching and research with a very high level of academic participation.

    How did you feel on receiving the Australia Day honour?

    I was gratified. The fact that the efforts to establish this centre, and our wider efforts in education and to raise awareness in the wider community, I was very pleased to receive this recognition. But it was also due to my commitments to the international community, including through publications, conferences and acting as an advisor to many groups.

    Which moment from your career stands out foremost in your memory?

    The publication of my first book by Princeton University Press, which was called The Rise and Fall of the Shah. It became an international bestseller and was widely reviewed. That was very gratifying because I’d just finished my PhD. The other highlight has been the birth of my three daughters, who are now 18, 16 and 13.

    Who would you credit as being your greatest support?

    I would have to credit my wife. When you take on new initiatives, it can be very time and energy consuming. You’re not always in the best of moods! It is my family and wife who have given me all the love, support and understanding I need.

    What is your next professional goal?

    I would like to continue to see this centre maintaining its position but expanding its stature, structures and activities at the national and international level. Also I would like to see this centre making meaningful and objective contribution to the international debate on issues in the Middle East and in Asia.

    When did you start at ANU? In what capacity?

    I started as an undergraduate at ANU in 1972, and finished my PhD in 1979. In 1983 I was appointed to a lectureship in the Department of Political Science, and then in 1994 I was given a promotion to professorship.

    What is your current role entail?

    I was responsible for establishing CAIS in 1994. Now we’ve grown to a fairly sizeable centre of excellence in teaching and research with a very high level of academic participation.

    How did you feel on receiving the Australia Day honour?

    I was gratified. The fact that the efforts to establish this centre, and our wider efforts in education and to raise awareness in the wider community, I was very pleased to receive this recognition. But it was also due to my commitments to the international community, including through publications, conferences and acting as an advisor to many groups.

    Which moment from your career stands out foremost in your memory?

    The publication of my first book by Princeton University Press, which was called The Rise and Fall of the Shah. It became an international bestseller and was widely reviewed. That was very gratifying because I’d just finished my PhD. The other highlight has been the birth of my three daughters, who are now 18, 16 and 13.

    Who would you credit as being your greatest support?

    I would have to credit my wife. When you take on new initiatives, it can be very time and energy consuming. You’re not always in the best of moods! It is my family and wife who have given me all the love, support and understanding I need.

    What is your next professional goal?

    I would like to continue to see this centre maintaining its position but expanding its stature, structures and activities at the national and international level. Also I would like to see this centre making meaningful and objective contribution to the international debate on issues in the Middle East and in Asia.

  3. “Small Numbers of Extremists…”
    by sheikyermami on February 28, 2010

    INFILTRATION WATCH!
    Australia has its own Bari!

    He has just written an article in ‘The Age’ about Israel’s supposed involvement as if they have done the act.

    It is time for Israel’s friends to condemn its acts of terrorism AMIN SAIKAL
    March 1, 2010 Comments 72
    http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/it-is-time-for-israels-friends-to-condemn-its-acts-of-terrorism-20100228-pb2n.html?comments=72#comments

  4. I’m seriously getting fed up with telling people about the islamic takeover and infiltration that is going on within Britain…. I go over it again and again, only to have people look at me as if i’m absolutely bonkers despite showing evidence that this is happening right under our noses!!! Are people really that dumb, or PC-minded that they refuse to see what is happening in plain daylight???

    Is there any place on Earth which is untouched by the hand of mo? If so, i’m on my way, to curl up in a nice warm cabin in the woods to live out my days…. honestly i’m getting tired of warning people, if they choose to ignore the warning then they can learn the hard way!!!!

    BAZINGA!!!

    Not really, i’ll never give up the fight, but sometimes that is exactly how I feel! It can be tough sometimes when you have a global media and governmental empire, that is feeding the general public outright lies, to contend with!!!!

  5. Apologies for the following link, but this has the most detailed information regarding his murder:

    (ps sorry for posting in two seperate entries, but posts with more than one link tend to get held up)

    http://seanbryson.com/articles/lee_kriss_donald.html

    Kriss had been stabbed thirteen times then set on fire.
    Whilst he was dying the lad had crawled fifty yards whilst on fire looking for someone to help him, but tragically no one was around to aid him as he lay dying in a park.

    Zahid admitted being one of the kidnappers in the car at the scene where the 15-year-old was killed but said he did not leave the car and blamed two others for Kriss’s death.

    Forensic evidence was given by the coroner which stated that the teenager was still alive when he had petrol poured on him and was set on fire.

    His naked and burned body was found the following morning by a man who thought it was an animal carcass dumped in the park.

  6. Crockett: Hong Kong is blissfully untouched by the hand that snatches the cradle.
    You see a few tent-wearing, beard-down-to-knees wielding geezers, but so far they haven’t done or said anything.

  7. Cecille,
    The reason, as you know, is because the islamic freaks are shot in China if they kill anyone – so the muslims have had their major recruiting tool nullified.

  8. Many people feel a certain smugness (although not admitting to it) about their tolerance and broadmindedness. They consider that by showing this tolerance and understanding of others with different views they will be considered good chaps and worthy of admiration. So in a sense it comes down to human pride – look how broadminded and understanding I am.

    Others are just lazy and ignorant.

    And then there are some who just find the whole issue of survival occupies them 24/7.

    So until the point is reached that it begins to dawn on people that their very quality of life and all the things they take for granted in a free society are under serious threat – nothing much is going to change.

  9. U.K.: Islamic Forum of Europe, named in attempts to infiltrate Labour Party, “inextricably linked” to East London mosque

    You are telling me that the Labour party has been infiltrated by Muslims? Right..

    So all the stuff of bringing in millions of Muslims into the country was not done by Labour but by Muslim infiltrators?

    And all that mosque building and ignoring Islamic hatemongers in mosques, was the work of Muslim infiltrators?

    Sorry, but excuse me if I don’t swallow that Taqqiya. Labour has deliberately given itself to Muslims, and in the process, has tried to hand the country over as well. This is mere Taqqiya by the Labour party – and why not, it is a tried and tested Islamic technique.

  10. kaw March 1, 2010 at 9:21 am

    Cecille,
    The reason, as you know, is because the islamic freaks are shot in China if they kill anyone – so the muslims have had their major recruiting tool nullified

    Its not just that. The freaks are shot in a manner that does not harm the perp’s body organs. To the Muslim, that means no proper burial and no going to Mo’s whorehouse in paradise, with all body parts intact. Takes all the fun out of Jihading.

  11. The Labour party in Australia will gladly endorse muslims to contest seats if it is in their own interests. We know that one muslim is one too many, but, somehow politicians walk around with their heads stuck up their own behinds.
    I believe in the age old policy and that is ‘The only good muslim, is a dead muslim.’ We need to organise militant groups to keep muslims subdued. Muslims need to feel so badly threatened that they will run back to their own countries. We cannot depend on our police force as our politicins have neutered them and rendered them toothless.

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