"In Canada we don't have free speech…"

Does Canada breed a lot of  far left nutbags like this one?

Here, a Canadian leftist decides for all Canada and especially students, what should be allowed to be said and what not without batting an eye that it was mob thuggery that decided it and not police or rule of law.

“In Canada we don’t have freedom,  not free speech, not rugged individualism, students sign off on diversity, equity and those are the things that drive our political culture….”

Quote of the Day:

“Every time a leftist says it’s about respect, restraint, and civility, the object of that is to criminalize your opinion and make conservative arguments impossible.” — Mark Steyn

Update: Media Misrepresented Coulter’s Remarks

Other news:

Some of our posters suggested I watch Generation Jihad Ep 3 on SBS. I thought the interviewer was hopelessly clueless and the whole thing going nowhere. What do you think?

Is it true that  Canadians remain colonials while Americans are still pioneers?

The great problem in this country isn’t that professional drivelists like Susan Cole would presume to speak on our behalf about the things that do or do not constitute our rights and freedoms, but that her mindless babbling is repeated ad nauseum by those who profess to be “in the know.”

She might as well have said:

“We don’t deserve free speech. Canadians have willingly signed off on all kinds of rights and freedoms to respect diversity, equity, and all of the other meaningless values that their governments tell them they should really care about. This is the thing that permit sour governments to drive our mindless masses. Not freedoms, not rugged individualism, not free speech. It’s different, and for our governments, it works.”  From Mark Steyn

George Jonas: Censorship and satire

, /Thanks to Vlad Tepes

The Roman poet Juvenal remarked that it’s hard not to write satire. Things have gone downhill since then. By now it’s hard not to write slapstick comedy.

Take this week, which began with a Canadian academic haughtily reminding a visiting American firebrand of the respect and civility that’s the hallmark of public discourse in this country,

“There is a strong tradition in Canada … of restraint, respect and consideration,” wrote University of Ottawa provost François Houle to enfant terrible Ann Coulter, urging her “to respect that Canadian tradition while on our campus.”

This was on Monday. On Tuesday, a howling mob demonstrated Canada’s commitment to restraint and respect by blocking Coulter (and those who came to hear her) from entering a lecture hall on campus.

The only group exhibiting Canadian-style restraint was the police. They cast a calm eye on the pandemonium, took a balanced view and chose no sides between people trying to exercise their rights and bullies trying to prevent them. Resisting any temptation to enforce the law, Ottawa’s finest exemplified Canada’s definition of moral leadership by observing neutrality between lawful and lawless.

Coulter later wrote the police “called off” her speech because they couldn’t guarantee her security. Interesting, if true. Will it start a trend? Will police call off property rights at the scene of robberies-in-progress? “Look, lady, it’s just a cash register. If they want it so badly, how about letting them have it?”

Maybe it’s the coming thing. Considering how governments screw up, letting mobs disrupt economic summits may help the economy. Won’t do much for law and order, but hey!

Going back to Houle’s letter to Coulter: Reminding an invited guest of table manners — “Dear Miss Coulter, we’re delighted you’re coming, but please don’t slurp the soup” — isn’t quite comme il faut. It would be uncouth enough to get a satirist’s attention, in ancient Rome or modern Canada, but Ottawa U’s epistolist aspired to being more than just another boor.

“Miss Coulter, we’re delighted you’re coming, but remember in Canada stealing silver spoons may land guests in a dungeon.” No, Houle didn’t write this, but what he did write came close:

“Educate yourself, if need be, as to what is acceptable in Canada … before your planned visit here. You will realize that Canadian law puts reasonable limits on the freedom of expression. For example, promoting hatred against any identifiable group would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges.”

Okay. Threatening invited guests with prosecution is truly worthy of a Roman satirist’s pen. The closest thing to Juvenal in Canada is Mark Steyn, and when the first half of the Coulter saga caught his attention, he commented that “M Houle would have a very hard time persuading the Ottawa police or the RCMP to lay criminal charges over an Ann Coulter speech because they realize, even if he doesn’t, that Canada doesn’t need to become even more of an international laughingstock in this area.”

“So the threat is an empty one,” Steyn concluded, “and M Houle seems to be being — oh, what’s the ‘respectful and civil’ way of putting it? — a posturing wanker.”

Sounds right to me. I’d say Houle’s risk of being charged with practising law without a licence for giving legal advice to Coulter is higher than Coulter’s risk of being charged with hate speech for anything she’s said. But was the provost’s letter really for Coulter — or was it a green light for the mob?

I’ll call the faces in the tumultuous crowd that assemble in student federations and such “Mike” and “Ellen.” They’re the ones who shout, as Ellen was heard shouting: “Ann Coulter should go back where she came from.”

“But she was invited by Campus Conservatives …”

“We don’t want her here.”

Mike and Ellen are the idealistic, demonstrating, book-burning, sometimes violent spear-carriers of social trends and ideas that shape all periods, occasionally for the better, usually for the worse. Many are educated beyond their intellectual means; all concern themselves with matters beyond their maturity. They’re the collateral damage of higher education.

In other news:

Houle’s letter to Coulter leaked. It reached Mike, Ellen and fellow Red Guard-types, inciting them to form an unlawful assembly to deprive Canadians who came to hear Coulter of their right to listen to her. Mike, one of the organizers, was quoted saying that “what Ann Coulter is practising is not free speech, it’s hate speech.”

Here’s the circular sophistry of two-tiered freedom: Approved speech = free speech; censored speech = hate speech. This is what corrupts minds, and I don’t mean students. I mean professors, provosts and presidents. The operating fallacies come from them. Mike and Ellen provide only the noise, the echo and the muscle.

Some say Coulter is an attention-seeking ninny. Assume it’s true. So? Offered as an excuse for a university preaching respect and civility while practicing suppression and intimidation, it’s worse than immaterial. It’s demeaning. Hypocritical. Ludicrous. I regret to say, it’s so Canadian.

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11 thoughts on “"In Canada we don't have free speech…"”

  1. ‘Other news:
    Some of our posters suggested I watch Generation Jihad Ep 3 on SBS. I thought the interviewer was hopelessly clueless and the whole thing going nowhere. What do you think?’

    I suggested it because it is one baby step to revealing what British people are saying in private. It is getting it out into the open. Into the MSM and those biased government broadcasters.

    That interviewer was a w****r, I agree!

    But, what it revealed about the interviewees was priceless. We could hear the self-denial going on, we saw the white, lonely guys singled out as the main ones. We saw the denial of the women at ‘community meetings’ trying to tell the police community liaison members ..’it wasn’t a good idea’.. to breaking in doors to come in.
    How serious do they think the terrorism in their comuunities is? Not much by the looks of them. They looked defensive.
    It wasn’t so much ‘sofly, sofly’ but ‘keeping your friends close, but your enemies closer’.
    What I will be expecting to see are much stronger ‘in-your-face’ exposes, as the MSM comes out of its shell.

    1. Thanks for the tip, Dhumme.

      Again, much more could have been done with this reportage, had the interviewer educated himself on Islam, jihad and Islamic obligation to make the world Islamic. Then again, would Al BeBeeCeera have sponsored him or aired the report? I doubt it.

      Its just more mush, the same mush we get from Ammanwhore and other detractors….

  2. Absolutely amazing. Here is some kind of spokesperson for Canadian Universities actually stating that Ann Coulter ought not to have been invited to speak on Canadian campuses.

    Not only that but it would have been better to have her speak at some alternative off campus venues.

    Two points:

    First, I always thought that the university is (or ought to be ) the quintessential institution for promotion of discussion, debate and deliberation about issues of central importance.

    If the university is not meant to stand as a forum for open free debate what then is its role today?

    It seems these precious persons in institutes of higher learning can not and must not be exposed to controversial viewpoints that they might find upsetting.

    How sad – how truly pathetic.

    Second, note the mob mentality in all its glory shouting, clapping, and drowning out any possible for open honest communication.

    And these are the future leaders of society?

    Listen to this apologist for Canadian views on freedom of speech – the woman will have you shaking your head in amazement.

    Megan Kelly did a good job in exposing this woman’s bizarre views – more of concern is that apparently this is mainstream Canadian thinking!

    Glad I don’t live there.

  3. Don’t be disheartened, Sheik!

    Since joining this forum, [coming in from the cold], I have noticed an improvement in the spreading of our message about islam.

    I am on a lot of online forums and read a lot lately and I have noticed that there are more and more references about ‘The Dark Side of islam” from ordinary commentators and the MSM. I realise that it is early days and there is a lot more to do. And it will be done! Already Stephanie [if I remember correctly] and I want to start up S.i.O.A. [Stop the islamisation Of Australia]. Another improvement is that there is a lot less pugilistic verbal asssults in the media from our Aussie ‘friends’. They are no longer arrogant or ‘in-your-face’. Ever since the authorities charged those ‘nice-young-men’ of terrorism with another set to go. You know! Those Hume Council ones!

    It is early days, still but we will be relentless until ‘they’ are defeated!

  4. The woman being interviewed by Kelly certainly does NOT speak for all Canadians! And certainly NOT for me. The rights of the individual are enshrined in the Canada’s constitution and for her to say that, “In Canada we don’t have freedom, not free speech, not rugged individualism”, is plainly a LIE. It was disgraceful what happened at that university, but I blame it on the fact that university students are notoriously easily brainwashed into thinking that certain groups are being “oppressed” when in fact the opposite is true. Coulter SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SPEAK. If people didn’t like what she had to say, they could have walked out. That would have had a greater impact than a bunch of lemmings shouting, “Ann, go home.” The shouting just makes the students look IGNORANT, INTOLERANT and STUPID.

  5. Does Canada breed a lot of far left nutbags like this one?

    F**K! I sure hope not!
    I’m certainly not one of them. There are quite a few in Ontario and Quebec though.
    I am in Ontario and it’s usually around the University towns that you find the leftists… London(University of Western Ontario), Waterloo(Waterloo University and the University of Guelph), Toronto(Uof T), Ottawa(UofO or as I call it “U of Zero”)Montreal(McGill University) are the most hotly leftist areas. I try to stay clear of those cities as much as possible.
    Sadly it seems the leftists are over-running our Universities.
    I think the schools curriculums should be checked often but I don’t believe they are.
    It happens in Universities and colleges everywhere and not just in Canada.
    The idiots who are graduating from journalism are mostly leftist these days.
    I am not sure where FOX found that nutbag-hosebag but they didn’t pick the apple from the right tree.

  6. Susan G. Cole is a involved in the Gay/Lesbian/Bi-sexual entewrtainment site “Wolfman Productions” , the Womens mag Herizons
    and NOW Magazine
    She was a member of the first lesbian political organization in Toronto, called LOOT (the Lesbian Organization of Toronto), which was founded in 1977 and operated a coffee house and lesbian phone line.
    So, if Susan is a leftist and really doesn’t mind the fact that sharia law may be knocking on her door someday, that’s fine with me.

    It’s very puzzling how they don’t understand what true Islam means to her ilk.
    She fights against Free speech not realizing what she’s supporting.
    I’ll watch, with bewilderment, when the Muslims throw her and her gay/bi/lesbians off the CN tower.

  7. Yes leftie students are in unis everywhere..nowadays radical islam spreads thru the unis too..for eg in Uk. The same org which spread there is now spreading in Aussie..In its early days founders of this org. were seldom out of jails in the middle east..It was Britain which let them flourish.
    From the little I have seen of Canadians many seem to have been brainwashed by that horror by another name, multiculturalism… Millions of school children are being brainwashed as I write. Multiculuralism ultimately leads to ethnic cleansing…and dirty , run down, overcrowed cities with barely a white person in site.

  8. Canadian Universities!!!
    To reiterate, I was banned from the University of Victoria by a leftist Kangaroo court for fostering the idea of Referenda on Aboriginal Treaties, a Democratic procedure. With stimulus from the left they had claimed 106% of our province as their land. This was 10 years ago but obviously I don’t listen to Communists.
    The Closet Communist a few months ago swarmed me as I was posting some pro Iraeli posters in the Law Society building. Police took me to their office and had me eventually fingerprinted, under some fabricated charge of assault by a Law Student. Eventually when they realized I had pictures of the swarming, and would fight it in court they dropped the charge. Only when Universities lose gov’t funding for their outright anti Free Speech actions will this stop. Further more I am working to develope laws that will cause students who threaten speakers to be expelled. Plus Professors or workers fired if they are activating against Free Speech, also that any foreign student who is active in this will be deported.

    “GODBLESS ANN COULTER” plus “BEN NETANYAHU”, who was stopped from speaking at Concordia U. in Ontario.

  9. Dhumme Dhimmi March 29, 2010 at 9:21 am
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Don’t be disheartened, Sheik!

    Since joining this forum, [coming in from the cold], I have noticed an improvement in the spreading of our message about islam.

    I am on a lot of online forums and read a lot lately and I have noticed that there are more and more references about ‘The Dark Side of islam” from ordinary commentators and the MSM. I realise that it is early days and there is a lot more to do. And it will be done! Already Stephanie [if I remember correctly] and I want to start up S.i.O.A. [Stop the islamisation Of Australia]. Another improvement is that there is a lot less pugilistic verbal asssults in the media from our Aussie ‘friends’. They are no longer arrogant or ‘in-your-face’. Ever since the authorities charged those ‘nice-young-men’ of terrorism with another set to go. You know! Those Hume Council ones!

    It is early days, still but we will be relentless until ‘they’ are defeated!

  10. Lorenzo ,
    How Obama treated Mr. Netanyahu was appalling..no photos , no dinner , no thanks …. and barely a goodbye. Shocking…
    Good on you for putting up pro israeli posters and for being so brave and committed.

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