"This country has a problem with Islam."

Burqa Katzenyammer in France

“Burqa ban riles French Muslim women”

For the perps from APF its all about “practicing her vision of Islam”. If that was all that’s to it, we wouldn’t have a problem with it.

Another one of these  deliberatily clueless articles that assumes we are all bigots, ignorant, ‘Islamophobes…’ for rejecting something so cool……..


An update to this story, here

VENISSIEUX, France – French leaders may be queuing up to promise to protect her rights, but Samira would rather they left her to wear her veil and to practise her vision of Islam in peace.

“I’ve nothing to apologize for and I respect everyone else. Democracy is more than just a theory for me,” the 36-year-old told AFP as she shopped at a market in Venissieux on the southern outskirts of Lyon.

The area has a strong Muslim population, but in two hours in the Miguettes market Thursday only four women pass wearing the niqab, a black full face veil that leaves only Samira’s eyes showing through a narrow slit.

Some women wear a headscarf that covers their hair and necks, leaving an oval for the face. Others are uncovered and wear Western-style clothes.

A day earlier, President Nicolas Sarkozy’s government had confirmed that it would seek to pass a law that would ban Muslims like Samira from coming to the market dressed in their niqab.

To justify a ban condemned by Muslim leaders outside France as an attack on religious freedom, politicians insist they are fighting to protect the rights of women and French secular traditions.

Samira is unimpressed, and hopes those very French traditional freedoms, as enshrined in the constitution, will protect her from the ban.

“I’m confident. I know the constitution,” she said, denouncing what she sees as the hypocrisy of the political class stirring a national debate that will only serve to “generate Islamophobia”.

It is a delicate debate, and even among the Muslim women of this working class central French town, there is no clear unanimity.

“Their black thing, that’s the Taliban. It cheapens women,” declared Nora Kassir, an unveiled passerby from nearby Sant-Fons, adding that while she rejected the niqab she had nothing against a headscarf.

Some French leaders warn the niqab — never very popular among the mainly North African and Black African Muslims in France — is spreading, promoted by hardline preachers trained in conservative Saudi Arabia.

Official estimates suggest 1,900 French women, among perhaps five or six million Muslims, wear the niqab. Anecdotally, however, its use is spreading.

“There are many more women in the niqab in Venissieux,” said 15-year-old Amina, shopping with her grandmother in the black chador-style headscarf covering her head but not her face that she has worn since she was two.

Amina said she hopes to wear a niqab too one day, if it is not banned, and thinks that most women who wear it do so through religious choice rather than because they are forced to by their families or imam.

“I know that some of them are forced, but I don’t know them,” she added.

Lydia, an unveiled 16-year-old, said however that she thinks the girls who “choose” the niqab are forced into it. Nora cut short the debate, declaring that immigrant communities should adapt to the culture of their new home.

“When you live in a country, you adopt its customs. If you went wandering around in a G-string in Saudi Arabia, how do you think they’d take it?”

While Muslim leaders in Indonesia, Iran and Pakistan condemned the imminent French ban, scholars in France have been more cautious.

The head of the Grand Mosque in Paris, Dalil Boubakeur, argued that the Koran does not order a veil — a common but not unanimous view among Islamic scholars — just that women be modestly dressed in loose clothes.

Nevertheless, he called for the government not to move too quickly towards a ban that might stigmatise the broader Muslim community and undermine freedom of religious expression.

There is support from both right and left in the French parliament for Sarkozy’s law, but some lawmakers argue that it goes too far and might be unconstitutional.

What is certain is that there is a tough debate ahead, and in the meantime many in France’s Muslim minority argue that Sarkozy has seized on an issue of minor importance and risks stirring communal tensions.

“The ban’s not my problem, and Muslims will respect the law, but I think there are other things more important in France, like unemployment,” said Mohammed, who works in the Al Kitiad bookshop in Paris.

While many Muslims agreed with him, others went further, claiming that the French are decadent and opposed to Islam in itself.

“In the Metro, there are posters of naked women and I have no right to say I’m shocked, while the French have a right to say that a veiled women shocks them,” said salesman Charif Muldi. “This country has a problem with Islam.”

9 thoughts on “"This country has a problem with Islam."”

  1. the black tent is not in the koran. they make the jihad up as they go. or should that be the jihadn’t??

  2. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but every country that islam decides to set up camp has a problem with islam. It’s whether that country decides to deal with it, or just accept it that shows the strength of it’s leadership.

    Up until now I have yet to see a strong government deal with islam the way it should be: expulsion of muslims and the criminalising of the koran. Anything less leads to the endangering of the very values we as Westerners cherish.

  3. Ditto, Davey!

    “This country has a problem with Islam.”
    by sheikyermami on April 29, 2010

    Burqa Katzenyammer in France

    “Burqa ban riles French Muslim women”


  4. only 4 women in 2 hours wearing the niqab .
    That’s 4 too many

    “I hope to wear the niqab one day ‘ Stupid cow or frightened cow ?

  5. “Official estimates suggest 1,900 French women, among perhaps five or six million Muslims, wear the niqab.”
    Last year we heard almost the same words – only then in was 340!

    France stands for Equalite – and that means no special rules for reli’s.

    We all have to show our faces, carry passports & drivers licenses with our faces – take off masks/scarves when entering secure areas (banks, airports,jewellers) – so no exceptions please!

    Just ONE covered face means inequality!

  6. Australia also needs to ban this stupid way of dressing. When women from Western countries go to the land of freaks, meaning muslim countries, they have to cover their heads as demonstrated by Hillary Clinton. When these pig faces come to live in the West, they also have to abide by the culture in our countries. Failure to conform should and must result in deportation.

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