'Freedom' takes on a different meaning in Islam

Court ruling: Honor killing plan is ‘freedom of thought’

Todays Zaman

A Diyarbakır court has dropped the charges against eight people from a family who were planning to kill a girl in the name of honor, ruling that they cannot be sentenced for thoughts that did not turn into action.

According to the Sabah daily, the men of the family had planned to call the girl in question, Kadriye, who ran away with her boyfriend, telling her that they had forgiven her. Then they were going to have her 14-year-old brother kill her. The plan was uncovered when Kadriye’s mother, 55-year-old Fatma Ç., notified a gendarme in a village in the southeastern province of Diyarbakır about the plan.

Criminal charges were brought against the eight men — two uncles, three brothers and three other family members — for planning to murder Kadriye in the name of honor. The mother was the plaintiff, while Kadriye was listed as the victim in the indictment prepared by a public prosecutor. In the trial, the three brothers said they did not plot to kill their sister, and the mother recanted her statement. “I asked for help to find my daughter, but I didn’t file a complaint about a plan to kill her,” she said during the trial. While noting that Kadriye could not be found despite all efforts and her testimony could not be taken, the court dropped the charges against the suspects, stating that “even though the suspects decided to kill Kadriye in the name of honor, the decision was only in the thought phase. No one can be charged with a crime for thoughts that do not turn into actions.”

42 thoughts on “'Freedom' takes on a different meaning in Islam”

  1. I’m thinking of drawing a cartoon of the false prophet, and I think he was a lecherous rock spider.

  2. false prophete ? i can’t anderstand ! is it supposed to be prophete Mohammed (bpuh) ? if it’s the case, Jesus reckonize prophete Mohammed (‘bpuh) as the last prophete of God to humain kind when he said , and thta’s in the bible , but maybe you have not red it, ! when he say: THE BEST IS YET TO COME. He was talking about prophete Mohammed (bpuh) who came to complete the religion of God.

  3. Sylvie, you are an idiot. Jesus said he was the last and that no more would come after him.

    So Mahound was a fraud – apart from the fact that he didn’t meet the requirements for a prophet as outlined in the Bible. He failed on all counts. If you are an arselifter, you should be aware of the sura in the koran where he abuses the Jews of Medina because he was unable to perform any miracles to demonstrate his prophethood.

  4. Sylvie,
    Jesus said NO such thing!!! At least do some research and do not take the words of islamists without any query.

  5. * Jesus reckonize prophete Mohammed (‘bpuh) as the last prophete of God

    Book, chapter, verse please Sylvie. I must have “corrupted”, “altered”, “infidel” versions, for Jesus Christ the Son of God doesn’t mention Mo in my copies, apart from general references to false prophets deceiving many:

    “For there will rise up false Christs and false prophets, displaying
    signs and prodigies with a view to lead astray–if indeed that were possible–even God’s own People.” (Mark 13:22)

  6. John 16:7, Sylvie?

    This is in reference to the Holy Spirit, not the false prophet Mo. Be aware that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is very serious, and is considered to be unpardonable.

    In short – do not blaspheme against the Holy Spirit!

    Why would a muslim equate this with the false prophet, while denying that God (or the counterfeiter allah at any rate) has a son, and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?

    It was a precondition that Jesus Christ went away to the Father before the Comforter [Holy Spirit] would come:

    “But now I am going to him who sent me; and not one of you says to me, Where are you going?” (John 16:5)

    “But I tell you the truth: it is expedient to you that I go: for if I go not, the Paraclete will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. ”
    (John 16:7)

    “hijack” islam if you must, but do not try it with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The consequences are eternal.

    Flee from islam and its false prophet. Run for your life!

  7. More muslim hypocrisy:

    * Court ruling: Honor killing plan is ‘freedom of thought’

    but someone saying they will bomb a mosque is a threat that CAIRBabies demand be investigated:


    [SHEEPSHEAD BAY, N.Y. (WPIX) – The battle over a proposed Brooklyn mosque just boiled over again. After Sheepshead Bay residents staged an angry weekend protest, Muslim leaders are demanding local and federal police probe a violent threat uttered by one of the mosque opponents.
    … …
    “If they build a mosque there, I’m going to bomb the mosque. . .I will give them a lot of trouble,” the paper quoted.” They’re not going to stay here alive.”]

  8. “Sheepshead Bay”? Why not rename it “Pigshead Bay” and solve many problems.

  9. holy spirit , son of God , 3 in 1 , why do you mix up everything? what does that mean?jesus was a man , a prophete just like Noa, Ebrahim, Job, Salomon,David,Moses,we have respect for Jesus and his mother Mary in Islam something ,that’s missing with you when you talk about prophete Mohammed (pbuh).I am not aware of one moslim who has insulted Jesus ! not one! the way you do about prophete Mohammed, A REAL CHRISTIANS WOULD NEVER DO THAT!! so you are not a good christian either , but then what are you?? why do you let yourself beeing manipulated by the ennemi of man, shatan? no offence but you make me think of puppets on a string!

  10. by the way ,paraclete was one of the name of the prophete to come (Mohammed) ‘pbuh)it was in the Evangil of Barnabè. Amongs other names were Ahmed but we all know that!!!

  11. * I am not aware of one moslim who has insulted Jesus ! not one!

    Every muslim, from allah and its false prophet down, who asserts that Jesus Christ is not the Son of God and was not crucified for our sins, has mocked, insulted and blasphemed against Jesus Christ.

    That includes you, Sylvie.

    Change your mind (μετανιώνω), while you still have a mind to change.

  12. if Jesus is the son of God that means that God had a relation with WHO?
    when Jesus was crucified it was someone else that took his apparence ,because God has said that he would not let his prophete die humiliated, on a cross, suffering!
    Jesus died for our sins? that means i can do anything i want, in this life , i don’t have to worry because Jesus has died for me , so i will be forgiven, i” ll surely go to haven , it let the door open to do any thing i want to do , no limits , Jesus has died for me!!
    let’s take an example, it means that serial killers who have commited atrocities and when once in jail are reborn christians have nothing to worry about then? where is the justice then? Jesus has died on the cross so everything is forgiven ?
    Your are the ones who mocke Islam and the prophete , not hard to see; look at sheik yermemi site! and the vocabulary , the images you employ to express yourslves!!!you seems to run out of plausible arguments ! no ?

  13. * if Jesus is the son of God that means that God had a relation with WHO?

    Does it? Not stated that God “had a relation” with anyone.

    * when Jesus was crucified it was someone else that took his apparence

    Really? Where did you get this blasphemous nonsense – from the false prophet, or was it all your own work?

    * because God has said that he would not let his prophete die humiliated, on a cross, suffering!

    Where did God say that? Are you channeling allah and its false prophet, or is this lie your own work?

    Jesus Christ was doing the will of his Father, in allowing Himself to be crucified for our sins:

    “saying, “Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done.” (Luke 22:42)

    “For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.” (John 3:16)

    * Jesus died for our sins? that means i can do anything i want, in this life , i don’t have to worry because Jesus has died for me , so i will be forgiven, i” ll surely go to haven , it let the door open to do any thing i want to do , no limits , Jesus has died for me!!

    You must change your mind about yourself and your status as a sinner, and accept that Jesus Christ died for your sins and was resurrected. As a muslim, you are doomed, as islam rejects God’s plan of salvation and eternal life, replacing it with a false prophet and a counterfeit plan.

    “Come now, and let us reason together, said the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” (Isaiah 1:18)

    There are no limits – even a muslim suicide bomber, if he survived a while after detonating, would be saved if he repented before his life ended.

    * let’s take an example, it means that serial killers who have commited atrocities and when once in jail are reborn christians have nothing to worry about then? where is the justice then? Jesus has died on the cross so everything is forgiven ?

    Exactly correct – as above, even a muslim suicide bomber can be saved, if he / she accepts Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord before death takes his life and his soul. Must be done before death, though.

    * Your are the ones who mocke Islam and the prophete

    Your “god”, its snide religion, and its false prophet are trafficking in human souls, mocking and blaspheming against God, Jesus Christ, and all that is holy. allah’s carnival of death rolls on, seeking to convert or kill or extract protection money (jizyah) from everyone it its way.

    Flee from islam, before God destroys it.

  14. Allah ‘s carnival of death rolls on ,seeking to convert?
    obviously you don’t know the history of spain! the golden age of Islam where everyone from europe came to study all kind of sciences, Cordoba , Sevilla , doesn’t it ring a bell?
    Spain ,where poeple wre invited to convert to Islam ,i did say :invited, because you see ,Islam is not a religion that you force on someone! it is a religion that you accept with your heart and soul , just like i did!
    if poeple would have converted to Islam under threat and atrocities and genocide, Spain would not have stayed moslem for so many centuries it would have gone back straigh away to christianity. you poeple , has been doing atrocities and genocide through out centuries in the name of Jesus! your history is full of blood! not like us!
    genocide of maya and the incas ,in the name of Jesus! genocide in europe of witches those days , in the name of Jesus; genocide of moslems in sarajevo srebenichka , in the name of Jesus! genocide of moslims in Spain commended by isabella and ferdinand ,in the name of Jesus! conversion to christianity with the help of tortutre! in he name of Jesus!! would Jesus have wanted that?
    Do you know what is the fastest growing religion in the world? Islam!
    when i say growing religion, i mean poeple who are converting.
    So you see my dear mulla it looks like it, God does not seems to want the end of the true religion!!!

  15. Silvie,do you really think that God would select a lying,mass murdering,thieving paedophile as a prophet? allah would,God wouldn’t.

  16. * Islam is not a religion that you force on someone!

    Tell it to allah, and get back to me with its response. Until then, I will go by what allah channelled through its false prophet – it doesn’t need people like you faking away like mad on its behalf when it spoke for itself:

    “Make war on them [unbelievers] until idolatry is no more and [allah’s] religion reigns supreme.” (Sura 8:39 – “The Spoils”)

    It’s not “My Restaurant Rules” it’s playing at – it is Global Domination, in opposition to Jesus Christ – King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.

    “Fight against such of those to whom the Scriptures were given [i.e. Jews and Christians] as believe neither in [allah] nor the Last Day, who do not forbid what [allah and its false prophet] have forbidden, and do not embrace [the counterfeit] faith, until they pay tribute (cough up protection money) out of hand and are utterly subdued” (Sura 9:29)

    (A Declaration of War against Jews and Christians – a war which it and its followers will lose)

    * Do you know what is the fastest growing religion in the world? Islam!

    I really do not care how fast islam grows – the major end time religion will be Mystery Babylon the Great, which may or may not include some, part or all of islam. The Beast 666 (Antichrist) will destroy it utterly, and the great falling away (apostasy) from Christianity is a necessary precursor to (A) the return of Jesus Christ for the dead and living saints (rapture of the church) and (B) the revealing of Antichrist, with all that entails, culminating at Armageddon.

    “1Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come. 3Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for (that day will not come) until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.”
    (2 Thessalonians 2 – in part)

    Note verse 4 – basically what the usurping allah has done, deceiving people such as you into following it to their doom.

  17. oh, my dear urban11
    where did you get your knowledge from? you have no solide , concrete arguments to put forward? just insults? you can not persuade anyone like that!!

  18. Sylvie,
    Actually, what you claim happened in Spain did not happen at all.!!
    And yes, conversions were at the point of the sword. However, let us assume that you are right for sake of argument. Islam is hardly a enlightened/enlightening religion today. It is a violent and viscous philosophy forced on the majority of its followers through violence, illiteracy, and dishonesty. Ask yourself – do the islamic terrorists represent you?? Because they represent islam, and if you are a muslim then they represent you. And for your information, Spain remained under muslim control because it was effectively invaded and held under a military government. And very few people convert to islam – you should stop believing your own publicity machine!!!
    The Spanish Inquisition, to which you are clumsily referring, was actually political in nature. This is one of the reasons why we separate state and religion, another good reason to throw you idiot muslims on the bonfire. The genocide of the Maya etc is typical of the situation when a slightly more advanced culture, still in the stage of what Sagan called a Phase 1 civilization, meets a slightly less advanced culture. You muslim arabs did this to central Africa as well – you decimated entire populations!!! The genocide of muslims in Sarajevo never happened, and in any case the west (not any islamic country) intervened as they did in Bosnia. You have no runs on the hoard, you are simply mouthing off for the sake of being heard, just shut up! Again the usual muslim diatribe, lie, lie, and lie again and hope that eventually someone believes you!

  19. Sylvie,
    You have not understood the reference you quote. Please think a little more before posting.

  20. gosh that was powerfull!!!!!! but meaning less , unfortunatly!
    you are beeing droven away by your emotion , well that’s not good!
    hummmmm ,,can’t quiet anderstand your::’proclaiming to be God’!
    who Jesus proclaming to be God? gosh! he is a lot of things in one individual! no?

  21. “`Abdullah bin `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, “I have been commanded (by Allah) to fight people until they testify that there is no true god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform Salat and pay Zakat. If they do so, they will have protection of their blood and property from me except when justified by Islam, and then account is left to Allah”.
    [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

    Commentary: This Hadith brings out the following…

    1. The objective of Jihad. This objective warrants that one must struggle against Kufr (disbelief) and Shirk (polytheism) and the worship of falsehood in all its forms. Jihad has to continue until this objective is achieved. This contention is supported by a Hadith, to the effect that Jihad will continue till the Day of Resurrection. In this Hadith the word (An-Nas) translated above as “people” stands for the polytheists and idolaters. The reason being that other Nasus (pl. of Nass, meaning `text’) confirm the exemption of Ahl-ul-Kitab (people of the Scriptures) from it subject to the condition that they agree to pay Jizyah (dues imposed by Islam on the people of the Book living under the protection of an Islamic state) and submit to the Muslim rule…it is incumbent on the Muslims to wage Jihad against them to wipe out Kufr and Shirk and raise the banner of Tauhid everywhere.

    …The domination of Kufr, Shirk and falsehood is darkness, heresy and tyranny, and the objective of Islam is to purge the world of all these evils…Muslims are bound to fight such evils and finish them by means of Jihad.

    2. Life and property of every person is secured after his joining the fold of Islam. He will, however, be subject to the law of Islam.”–Riyad-us-Saliheen 390

    “{ فَأَمَّا ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ فَأُعَذِّبُهُمْ عَذَاباً شَدِيداً فِي ٱلدُّنْيَا وَٱلآخِرَةِ وَمَا لَهُمْ مِّن نَّاصِرِينَ }

    As for the disbelievers, I will chastise them with a terrible chastisement in this world, through being killed, taken captive and made to pay the jizya, and the Hereafter, in the Fire; they shall have no helpers, none to protect them from it.”–Tafsir al-Jalalayn “Surat al-Imran [Q 3]”

    “It is recorded in the Sahih that the Messenger of Allah said,

    (Allah made the eastern and western parts of the earth draw near for me [to see], and the rule of my Ummah will extend as far as I saw.) Imam Ahmad recorded from Tamim Ad-Dari that he said, “I heard the Messenger of Allah saying,

    (This matter (Islam) will keep spreading as far as the night and day reach, until Allah will not leave a house made of mud or hair, but will make this religion enter it, while bringing might to a mighty person (a Muslim) and humiliation to a disgraced person (who rejects Islam). Might with which Allah elevates Islam (and its people) and disgrace with which Allah humiliates disbelief (and its people).) Tamim Ad-Dari [who was a Christian before Islam] used to say, “I have come to know the meaning of this Hadith in my own people. Those who became Muslims among them acquired goodness, honor and might. Disgrace, humiliation and Jizyah befell those who remained disbelievers.”–Tafsir ibn Kathir “Surah at-Taubah [Q 9]“

    “Allah mandated jihad…as a punishment for the infidels who refused to worship Allah Almighty and disdained he who had created them. For jihad was the tradition (sunnah) of the prophets, from the first centuries until the coming of our prophet Muhammad. For Muhammad went out with this law, which is jihad in the path of Allah, to establish the word of Allah and do away with shirk (polytheism) and infidelity. Allah said: “Fight them on until there is no sedition (fitna), and the religion is wholly Allah’s, but if they cease, let there be no hostility, except to those who practice oppression” (Qur’an 2.193). This is the wisdom behind waging jihad, in order that Allah alone be worshipped, as (the Prophet) said: “I have been sent with the sword to ensure Allah is worshipped”…The purpose of jihad is not simply to gain authority, or expand the kingdom, or get money, or kill people. The purpose of jihad is to establish the word of Allah. For if the infidels accept the call of Islam and return to their Creator, they will not be attacked. But if they rebel they must be fought so that their wickedness and infidelity may cease, and they may receive their punishment, although their punishment with Allah will be so much more severe and horrible in the fire of hell, for they are infidels and polytheists, who despise the worship of Almighty Allah.”–Why It Is Considered Our Sixth Pillar of Islam – Jihad Is Ordained to Establish the Word of Allah, Moheet – Iman al-Khashab, 13th March 2010

    Want me to go on?….

  22. Sylvie, what do you call a man in his 50s who rapes a nine year old,or someone who made his living robbing caravans or someone who beheaded 600-800 prisioners of war? A prophet? grow up.

  23. kaw
    i am sorry that you have to use bad language as always when talking about Islam ,but i see it is taking big proportion in your mind , that’s exactly what happened when the person is not sure of himself
    You see , if there would have been genocide of all christians in spain ,the way you poeple have done in the past to poor unfortunate illetrate poeple, then ,there would not have been left one christian left to regain power! plenty of christian were left in peace and they were happy to prosper under Islam! till came the vil isabella and ferdinand to gangrain the country! that’s history you call it as you ! the facts are there

  24. listen,
    i am amazed to see how much you poeple want prophete Mohammed (pbuh) to be padophile , a rapiste ! where on earth did you get this information from? we all know that padophiles and raping of children is a speciality of the vatican!! no?
    As far as prisonners of war are concerned , there too! you got it wrong!! prophete ‘(pbuh) as a punishment to ennemies, ask them to teach each moslem to read and write!

  25. * plenty of christian were left in peace and they were happy to prosper under Islam!

    Much as in “moderate” Indonesia?


    [ORGANISED gangs in Indonesia using Islam to call for attacks on Christians are themselves facing calls to be banned.]

    [It has even warned of the possibility of “war” against Christians, who number in the tens of millions in Indonesia’s population of about 230 million.]

    The war must be fought, and islam must be destroyed, by the very God it mocks and blasphemes against. (Ezekiel 38 / 39, Isaiah 17:1 etc)

    islam is doomed.

  26. what make you think that is Islam what they do?, you don’t have any terrorism in christianity?
    well you say Islam is doomed , that’s what your are saying, one small individual,very , very very small individual , with few cranks with him, then it means there is no danger to see it doomed!!

  27. * what make you think that is Islam what they do?

    (A) allah and its false prophet instructing them to make war upon Christians and Jews …

    (B) Them carrying out the instructions of allah and its false prophet.

    islam, in a nutshell.

  28. * well you say Islam is doomed , that’s what your are saying, one small individual,very , very very small individual , with few cranks with him, then it means there is no danger to see it doomed!!

    muslims hatch and plot, with a view to destroying Israel and the Jews.
    They will carry out their plot, but will be destroyed when they do.

    Have a chat with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and those who seek to destroy the “Zionist entity” – even in “moderate” Malaysia, they suck in the Jew-hate like their mother’s milk, as the Sheik might say.

    This is a prophecy of God, via the prophet Ezekiel:

    “Son of man, let your face be turned against Gog, of the land of Magog, the ruler of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and be a prophet against him,
    And say, This is what the Lord has said: See, I am against you, O Gog, ruler of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal: And turning you round, I will put hooks in your mouth and make you come out with all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them in full war-dress, a great force with breastplate and body-cover, all of them armed with swords: Persia, Cush, and Put with them; all of them with body-cover and metal head-dress: Gomer and all her forces; the people of Togarmah in the inmost parts of the north, with all his forces: a great number of peoples with you.” (Ezekiel 38 – in part)

    Yes, I am very small, with a few cranks, but nevertheless the prophecy will be fulfilled, otherwise the prophet Ezekiel is nothing but a fake, like Mo.


    Rabbis: Flotilla Clash Similar to Gog and Magog Prophecy
    by Gil Ronen

    [The Rabbinical Council of Judea and Samaria issued a statement Thursday in which it said that the results of the incident in which Israel intercepted a flotilla trying to break the naval blockade of Gaza seem like the Biblical description of “the beginning of the Gog and Magog process where the world is against us, but which ends with the third and final redemption.” ]

  29. “In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are united [in Islam], so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to both of them [i.e. religion and politics] at the same time. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense…Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations…Thereafter, there were dissensions among the Christians with regard to their religion and to Christology…We do not think that we should blacken the pages of this book with discussion of their dogmas of unbelief. In general, they are well known. All of them are unbelief. This is clearly stated in the noble Qur’an. [To] discuss or argue those things with them is not up to us. It is [for them to choose between] conversion to Islam, payment of the poll tax, or death.”–AbÅ« Zayd ‘Abdu r-Raḥman bin Muḥammad bin KhaldÅ«n Al-Hadrami, The Muqudimmah: An Introduction to History (pp. 60, 473, 480)

  30. More on (Ezekiel 38 /39 – Gog Magog?):


    Obama accepts McChrystal resignation, Iran declares war on northwestern border (video)

    [Debka file suggested that “The arrival of the USS Harry S. Truman Strike Group in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea” could be one of the developments that set off Iran’s saber rattling. The Truman would be one of the 11 war ships (along with one Israeli vessel) that the US sent through Egypt’s Suez Canal in response to an Iranian flotilla that was headed to Gaza. The ponderings of the Jewish Rabbis who considered if the flotilla would eventually lead to the Gog-Magog prophecy in chapters 38 and 39 in the Old Testament Book of Ezekiel also seem to be reverberating through the air. It will be interesting to see how all of this develops.]

  31. More on (Ezekiel 38 /39 – Gog Magog?):


    Coalition against Israel starting to form

    [It’s coming. We know from Ezekiel 38 that there will be a coalition of countries that form against Israel and this coalition will attack Israel from the north. In Ezekiel 38 it tells us that the countries of Magog (Russia), Persia (Iran), Ethiopia, Libya, Gomer and Togarmah (Turkey) will come together and join hands to attack the nation of Israel. It also tells us that many will join them, which could include other countries also.]

    [The coalition is starting to form against Israel and the near future events will pull it all together. Keep your eyes open.]

    The largely islamic nations will invade Israel in accordance with God’s prophetic will and purpose, and will be destroyed when they do.

    islam is doomed, along with its followers.

  32. The fuquha are all of one mind when it comes to jihad al-talab wa’l-ibtida’…

    “So fight them until there is no more shirk, and none is worshipped except Allaah alone with no partner or associate, and trials and calamities, which are disbelief and polytheism, are lifted from the slaves of Allaah on earth, and religion is all for Allaah alone, and so that obedience and worship will be devoted to Him alone and none else.”–Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari

    “The unjust person is he who refuses to proclaim, `There is no God worthy of worship except Allah.’”–Ikrimah ibn Abi-Jahl & Qatada ibn al-Nu’man

    “Allah commanded the Prophet to fight the disbelievers with the sword, to strive against the hypocrites with the tongue and annulled lenient treatment of them.”–`Abd Allah ibn `Abbas

    “It is the consensus of the scholars of this Ummah that if part of the religion is Allah’s and other part is not, fighting must go on until the entire religion is Allah’s.”–Shaykh al-Islam ibn Taymiyya

    “Allah sent him (the Prophet), with the guiding Book and the conquering sword, ahead of the Hour, so that Allah alone would be worshipped with no partner or associate, and his provision was placed beneath the shade of his sword and spear. Allah has established the religion of Islam with proof and evidence, and with the sword and spear, both are together and inseparable.”–Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya

    “Being killed in the Path of Allah washes your filth from you. Being killed in such a way does two things: expiates your sins and raises your rank.”–Abu ad-Darda’

    “After the death of Muhammad, the man of the miracle [the Qur’an] and the apostle of truth and the companions, fearing the weakening of Islam, the decrease of the number of its followers, and the return of masses to their previous infidelity, saw that holy war and invading other countries for the sake of Allah, smashing the faces of the infidels with the sword and making people enter the religion of Allah as the most worthy of all tasks and better than all sciences.”–AbÅ« Ḥāmid Muḥammad ibn Muḥammad al-GhazālÄ«

    “The prophet…ordered us to strike with this (meaning the sword), who strays from this (meaning the Quran).”–Jaabir bin Abdullah

    “For me to donate even a whip in the Path of Allah – the Mighty and Exalted – is more beloved to me than performing one Hajj after another.”–‘Abdullah bin Mas’ud

    “Because they fight know (sic) to repell the harm of kufr and to make Islaam superior and this fighting is an obligatory kind of fighting, it’s dignifying the Word of Allaah!”–Imaam as-Sarakhs

    “Perform Jihad against the people in Allah’s cause, whether they are near or far, and do not fear the blame of the blamers, as long as you are in Allah’s cause. Establish Allah’s rules while in your area and while traveling. Perform Jihad in Allah’s cause, for Jihad is a tremendous door leading to Paradise. Through it, Allah saves (one) from sadness and grief.”–Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Hanbal Abu `Abd Allah al-Shaybani

    “Whosoever does not forbid people from the deen of the Jews and Christians after the prophethood of the messenger Muhammad nor declares them [Jews and Christians] kafir nor hates them, he is not a Muslim by the consensus of all Muslims, their scholars and the general public.”–Shaykh al-Islam ibn Taymiyya

    “Allah has chosen you for Himself and for His religion, so that you will serve as the engine pulling this nation to the phase of succession, security, and consolidation of power, and even to conquests thorough da’wa and military conquests of the capitals of the entire world. Very soon, Allah willing, Rome will be conquered, just like Constantinople was, as was prophesized by our Prophet Muhammad.”–Yunis al-Astal (2008)

    “We will control the land of the Vatican; we will control Rome and introduce Islam in it. Yes, the Christians…will yet pay us the Jiziya, in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam.”–Muhammad bin Abd Al-Rahman Al-’Arifi

    “Through the jehad that the mujahideen have launched in Kashmir, Islam will become dominant all over the world.”–Lashkar-e-Taiba spokesperson Nazir Ahmad

  33. (Coughing..)

    Jesus Christ – Born: Year 1 Dead: 33
    Muhammed – Born: 570 Dead: 632

    More than 500 years between the two. How, in heaven’s name, was Jesus supposed to have talked about this warlord Muhammed who was born more than 500 years after his Jesus’ death?

  34. That’s right, dear.

    The essence of Mohammedanism. They accuse us of having forged the biblical scriptures by erasing the coming of Muhammad. They also accuse of us of “having rejected faith” (only Mohammedanism is the “true faith” because it says so in the Koran) and “unbelief is worse than killing”.

    But not to worry: as long as we pay the jiziya with willing submission while feeling subdued we are -supposedly- safe.

    That changes when they have the numbers……

  35. let’s put it that way whoever you are,
    how comes Jesus spoke like a grown up from the cradle?
    God gave him this power , so why couldnot he have known about prophete Mohammed(pbuh) ? if he had power that ordinary human have not?

  36. There are no limits on the power of Jesus Christ, Sylvie. Unlike the false prophet Mo, the words of Jesus Christ will never pass away.

    “Christ is the visible representation of the invisible God, the Firstborn and Lord of all creation. For in Him was created the universe of things in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen, thrones, dominions, princedoms, powers–all were created, and exist through and for Him. And HE IS before all things and in and through Him the universe is a harmonious whole.” (Colossians 1:15-17)

    By the time this ends, Sylvie, there will be no allah, no false prophet, no islam and no muslims – except in the lake of fire.

    Judgement is coming.

  37. Jesus was not the only prophete with powers there wrere others!
    can’t anderstand: first born?
    who is for you :lord of creation? jesus?
    HIM, jesus?
    exist through HIM? who ? jesus?throw light on that !

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