Still clueless after all these years…

Today in NYC:

New York (CNN) — With chants and banners, protesters against the construction of an Islamic community center and mosque near ground zero faced off on Sunday with protesters in favor of the facility.
Hundreds of critics and supporters of the proposed center in New York showed up despite an overcast and drizzly sky to express their views amid the national debate over the facility. (CNN)

Carl in J’lem on how to find a “moderate Muslim”, to be taken with a grain of salt:

How to tell a ‘moderate Muslim’

All Muslims claim to be ‘moderate’ and everyone is trying to find ‘moderate Muslims.’ There are a few tips on how to find out how ‘moderate’ they are: (but don’t take my word for it)

Ground Zero & the “Moderate Muslims”

The talking heads from FOX are still prattling on about those mythical “moderate Muslims”, who we can’t afford to alienate, because “Islam is not a monolith” (don’tcha know) and “these moderates really wanna be our friends, I mean really,  imposing our definition of moderation on the Muslim community is gonna make us a lotta enemies around the world who would otherwise be our friends…..”

My head hurts. Can you stop the planet so I can get off?

Why don’t these empty suits listen to Muslims instead when they tell the truth?

“There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”

Who said that?

Robert Spencer? Serge Trifkovic? Fjordman? Bat Ye’or?

No, the Prime Minister of Turkey, PM Tayyip Erdogan said it, on Turkish television. (GoV)