Take your pick:
We have two kinds of Muslims: Terrorist Muslims and ignorant Muslims. The former are those who know Islam well and live by its dictums. The latter have no clue about their religion and have an idealized image of Islam that has no bases in facts.
Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith. Â It is time to put an end to the charade of “moderate Islam.” There is no such thing as moderate Muslim. Muslims are either jihadists or dormant jihadists â€“ moderate, they are not. Â (by Ali Sina, FaithFreedom.org,)
Diogenes spent 1,400 years looking for a Moderate Muslim and never found one. Now Diogenes was a smart fellow, but maybe he didn’t look in the right places. Her should have tried California. What could be more moderate than a Muslima wearing a headscarf at a Disneyland Theme Park? (How about Heinrich Himmler wearing a Swastika at Dachau?)
Let me Know if You Find BigFoot While You’re Hunting for “Moderate Islam”
David Swindle: The Appeasers Pretzel Logic
Yesterday IÂ published a post atÂ NewsReal Blog explaining the anti-Semitism embedded within Islam and the consequences we see today as aÂ result.
John Guardiano submitted a rebuttal. His response in a nutshell: I’m helping the enemy by agreeing that their interpretation with Islam is correct. Instead of telling the truth about Islam â€” “demonizing” Islam in John’s words â€” I should be embracing some supposed “moderate Islam.” I should be labeling those who want to kill Jews and impose Sharia on the planet as “misinterpreters” of true Islam. (Newsrealblog)
According to Tariq Ramadan, a Muslim needs justÂ three things in order to be “European”: be law-abiding, speak the language, be loyal to the country and its values (critically and constructively). But, in fact, you can be the most radical Muslim and still be law-abiding, speak the language and be loyal to all the values you’re not critical of. A good example of such a Muslim is Tariq Ramadan himself.
I don’t think that’s enough. Integration is not about being law-abiding, or about accepting those values you think don’t conflict with your religion. It’s about integrating those values into your outlook and religion. (Islam in Europe)
- The ‘moderate Muslim’ is a Unicorn, more elusive than Big Foot and the Yeti (Brigitte Gabriel: “A moderate Muslim is a non-practicing Muslim.)
A very revealing AP puff piece on the horrors that “moderate” Muslims are supposedly experiencing in America today. “NYC mosque debate will shape American Islam,” by Rachel Zoll forÂ AP, August 29 (thanks to Robert Spencer):
NEW YORK – Adnan Zulfiqar, a graduate student, former U.S. Senate aide and American-born son of Pakistani immigrants, will soon give the first khutbah, or sermon, of the fall semester at the University of Pennsylvania. His topic has presented itself in the daily headlines and blog posts over the disputed mosque near ground zero.What else could he choose, he says, after a summer remembered not for its reasoned debate, but for epithets, smears, even violence?
And whose fault is that, exactly? Mosque supporters have consistently smeared mosque opponents as racists, bigots, hatemongers, “Islamophobes” — the usual array of charges levied at those who are leading the fight to raise awareness of the jihad and Islamic supremacism, but it was a new thing to see these charges levied promiscuously at the 70% of Americans who oppose the mosque.
As he writes, Zulfiqar frets over the potential fallout and what he and other Muslim leaders can do about it. Will young Muslims conclude they are second-class citizens in the U.S. now and always?
No one, of course, is saying the Muslims are or should be second-class citizens in the U.S. We have raised legitimate questions about the Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf’s support for Sharia and Hamas, and about the symbolism of the Ground Zero mosque as a triumphal mosque. None of this has anything to do with Muslims being second-class citizens. It is simply asking that they accord to non-Muslims the consideration and respect that they demand for themselves. It is asking that they not engage in activity that amounts to sedition, in working to replace the Constitution with a system of laws that would deny basic liberties, and asking law enforcement and government authorities to be cognizant of the nature of Sharia and how it is at variance with those liberties.
“They’re already struggling to balance, `I’m American, I’m Muslim,’ and their ethnic heritage. It’s very disconcerting,” said Zulfiqar, 32, who worked for former U.S. Sen. Max Cleland, a Georgia Democrat, and now serves Penn’s campus ministry. “A controversy like this can make them radical or become more conservative in how they look at things or how they fit into the American picture.”…
Threat noted. But why would it do that? Islamic supremacists and Leftists know: no matter how much they lie about the words, deeds, and positions on various questions of mosque opponents, and no matter how much they defame and smear them, those who oppose the mosque are never,Â never going to strap bombs on themselves and blow themselves up at the next hand-wringing meeting about “Islamophobia.” In other words, some people, no matter how hard you push them, never become “radicalized.” Why is it that adherents of the Religion of Peace who supposedly reject the version of Islam of Al-Qaeda and its ilk as a twisting and hijacking of their peaceful religion might nevertheless adopt that version of Islam as their own if they believe that some people are being mean to them?
Eboo Patel, an American Muslim leader and founder of Interfaith Youth Core, a Chicago nonprofit that promotes community service and religious pluralism, said Muslims are unfortunately experiencing what all immigrant groups endured in the U.S. before they were fully accepted as American. Brandeis University historian Jonathan D. Sarna has noted that Jews faced a similar backlash into the 1800s when they tried to build synagogues, which were once banned in New York….
Yes, yes, of course. You may recall from the histories of those days that Jews in New York loudly proclaimed that they were there to take over, and numerous Jews in New York engaged in terror plotting. You remember the Fort Hood jihad shooting, the Arkansas recruiting center jihad shooting, the Christmas underwear bomb jihad attempt, the Times Square jihad car bomb attempt, the Fort Dix jihad plot, the North Carolina jihad plot, the Seattle jihad shooting, the JFK Airport jihad plot, and on and on. No, wait! Those weren’t plots by 19th-century Jews in New York, but by 21st-century Muslims all over the U.S.! My mistake!
And no, the point is not thatÂ all Muslims in America are responsible for these and other jihad plots. The point is that when the Ground Zero imam and so many other Muslim leaders support Sharia, refuse to condemn Hamas and/or other jihad terror groups, and are manifestly dishonest, it makes the demand that Americans assume that they are different from the Muslims who were responsible for those jihad plots seem like sheer bullying, and a refusal to engage the legitimate concerns that people have about Sharia and the intentions of the Ground Zero mosque organizers.
Patel believes American Muslims are on the same difficult but inevitable path toward integration.”I’m not saying this is going to be happy,” Patel said. “But I’m extremely optimistic.”
Yet, the overwhelming feeling is that the controversy has caused widespread damage that will linger for years.
No, all the jihad terror, all the supremacist declarations, all the lies and all the smears have caused widespread damage that will linger for years. And the Muslim advocacy groups behind the lies and smears, such as CAIR, just don’t care about that damage — because they can turn around after causing it and exploit any resulting “backlash” to reinforce their claim to privileged victim status.
American Muslim leaders say the furor has emboldened opposition groups to resist new mosques around the country, at a time when there aren’t enough mosques or Islamic schools to serve the community….
Actually there are large mosques being built all over, for Muslim communities that have neither the numbers nor the money to sustain them. And that, too, raises questions that if you dare to ask, you’re accused of “Islamophobia.”
U.S. Muslims who have championed democracy and religious tolerance question what they’ve accomplished. If the “extremist” label can be hung on someone as apparently liberal as the imam at the center of the outcry, Feisal Abdul Rauf, then any Muslim could come under attack. Feisal supports women’s rights, human rights and interfaith outreach.
Oh, and Hamas.
“The joke is on moderate Muslims,” said Muqtedar Khan, a University of Delaware political scientist and author of “American Muslims, Bridging Faith and Freedom.” “What’s the point if you’re going to be treated the same way as a radical? If I get into trouble are they going to treat me like I’m a supporter of al-Qaeda?”…
What’s theÂ point? Did he really ask that? How about this for a point: Muslims should not support Al-Qaeda because of human decency. Because of respect for human life. Because of the importance of human rights. Because the “radicals” are perpetrating great evil, murdering innocent people and working for the subjugation of women and non-Muslims, and the extinguishing of the freedom of speech and the freedom of conscience. And apparently all that is just fine with Muqtedar Khan, if you make him angry.