So you think Koran burning is wrong?

Houston & Texas News

“The radical Muslims are not interested in dialogue or peace,” Jones said. “Their religion is so radical that they are willing to die for the cause, so our message has to be this radical in order for them to understand.”


“Religious leaders” decry plans for Quran burning

Florida church will mark 9/11 by burning Korans

I decry the interfaith cults.

Religious leaders gathered in Houston Saturday to condemn a Florida church’s campaign to burn hundreds of Qurans later this week.

Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish, Christian, Sikh, Zoroastrian and Muslim clergy spoke to about 120 people at an interfaith symposium held at the Baitus Samee Mosque in northwest Houston. They discussed the sanctity of scriptures and denounced the ill-treatment of religious books.

“Even if it is a human document merely inspired by encounters of the divine, or generations of my people’s wisdom passed down and kept sacred, it is still sacred,” Rabbi Jonathan Siger told the audience.

“Notorious past”

The symposium was held in response to the Dove World Outreach Center’s announcement of a “Burn a Quran Day” on Sept. 11 at their church property in Gainesville, Fla. The non-denominational church gained notoriety in 2009 for its “Islam is of the Devil” signs posted on the church’s lawn.

“Islam is a very oppressive religion, and the Quran is definitely a dangerous book,” said Terry Jones, pastor of the Dove World Outreach Center. “We want to send a clear message to radical Muslims, that in the U.S., we are not interested in shariah law and shariah courts. We have a Constitution, and we hope to uphold it.”

Though the church was denied a burning permit by Gainesville authorities, members still plans to burn “a couple hundred Qurans” on the evening of Sept. 11 to commemorate those killed in the World Trade Center attacks.

A radical response

Jones agreed that burning books may be perceived as radical, but it is the only way to get their message across, he said.

“The radical Muslims are not interested in dialogue or peace,” Jones said. “Their religion is so radical that they are willing to die for the cause, so our message has to be this radical in order for them to understand.”

The campaign has gained more than 7,000 fans on its Facebook page, and organizers expect several hundred participants at the event.

Many panel members at the interfaith symposium expressed personal and religious disapproval of the church’s actions.

“I’m absolutely horrified and beyond disgusted at their behavior,” said Siger of Congregation Jewish Community.

Siger, a former Gainesville resident, likened the burnings to the Holocaust.

“The Jews, particularly, are very familiar with book burnings,” Siger said. “First they burn books, then they burn people.”

Absurd hyperbole. No Jew or Muslim will be burned because of a few Korans or Mein Kampf going up in smoke.

Pastor Dale Inman of Calvary Road Baptist Church said not only will the burnings cause hate, but the event also goes against biblical teachings.

Islam causes hate, not the burnings. Pastor Dale Inman should learn to read his bible correctly.

“The words of the Bible says that ‘All men shall know whom are my disciples because of your love, one for another,’ and I don’t find burning the Quran a way of promoting friendship and unity amongst people,” said Inman, a panel member at the event.

Islam has no use for you, apart from being a useful idiot, Inman.

Similar texts

The irony of Christians burning the Quran, he said, is that the Quran and Bible have many similarities.

“Many Christians don’t know that there are many stories in the Quran that can be found directly out of the Bible; the stories of Adam and Eve, Noah, the flood,” he said. “There are areas that are different, but there are a lot of the same stories.”

While the Muslim community condemns the actions of the church, symposium co-organizer Dawood Munir said he doesn’t believe burning the Quran will devalue the book in any way.

“The burning event is promoting bitterness, but it will not hurt the Quran,” said Munir, president of the Cypress chapter of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. “By burning a paper and burning a book, it only hurts the emotions, but it cannot burn the teachings which are in the heart of the people.”

Central to the belief of Muslims, Munir said, is that the Quran is the literal word of God and therefore God himself will protect his book. “So we’re not too worried,” Munir said.

Siger told participants that he’s pleased the Houston community rejected the bait of hatred and came together to share their love of scripture with mutual respect.

safiya.ravat@chron.com

16 thoughts on “So you think Koran burning is wrong?”

  1. * “Many Christians don’t know that there are many stories in the Quran that can be found directly out of the Bible; the stories of Adam and Eve, Noah, the flood,” he said. “There are areas that are different, but there are a lot of the same stories.”

    A few “areas that are different”, but nothing that can’t be glossed over, or rolled in glitter:

    http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/frames/index.html

    Crucifying “the Body” of Jesus*

    [4:157] And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified him – they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him.*

    Trinity: A False Doctrine

    [4:171] O people of the scripture, do not transgress the limits of your religion, and do not say about GOD except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was a messenger of GOD, and His word that He had sent to Mary, and a revelation from Him. Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messengers. You shall not say, “Trinity.” You shall refrain from this for your own good. GOD is only one god. Be He glorified; He is much too glorious to have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. GOD suffices as Lord and Master.

    (Triune is a better term, but God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit are one)

    The burning of a koran is nothing compared to the eternal burning that awaits those who are deceived into believing the above blasphemies by allah and its false prophet.

    “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
    (John 3:16)

  2. “Many Christians don’t know that there are many stories in the Quran that can be found directly out of the Bible …”
    Of course there are. You didn’t really think that Mohammed had a direct line to Allah, (via Gabriel) did you? During his travels as a trader, he would have come into contact with many “people of the book”, and listened to their stories.

  3. Burning a Koran just invites the MSM to draw analogies with Nazi book burning fests. If a public demonstration of disgust at the contents of the Koran is to be made, just put it on the ground and plant the sole of your shoe on it. This is far more insulting to Islam than burning the book.

  4. There was a case not long ago in Athens when the peaceful ones went on a rampage because a police officer handled a koran (or pages from one) that had been used to conceal drugs … obviously a muslim can “abuse” the thing, but not an infidel.

    Procedures for handling the blasphemous thing in Gitmo – much like
    any other HAZMAT?

    http://tirana.usembassy.gov/press20050523.html

    Guantanamo Procedures on Handling Koran (May 23, 2005)

    January 19, 2003

    MEMORANDUM FOR All personnel, JDOG

    SUBJECT: Camp Delta Interim SOP Modification: Inspecting/Handling Detainee Korans Standard Operating Procedure (SOP)

    1. General. The purpose of this SOP is to provide guidance and set specific procedures for the handling and inspecting of detainee Korans.

    2. Intent. To ensure the safety of the detainees and MPs while respecting the cultural dignity of the Korans thereby reducing the friction over the searching the Korans. JTF- GTMO personnel directly working with detainees will avoid handling or touching the detainee’s Koran whenever possible. When military necessity does require the Koran to be search, the subsequent procedures will be followed.

    3. Inspection.

    a. The MP informs the detainee that the Chaplain or a Muslim interpreter will inspect Koran. If the detainee refuses the inspection at any time, the noncompliance is reported to the Detention Operations Center (DOC) and logged appropriately by the block NCO.

    b. The Koran will not be touched or handled by the MP.

    c. The Chaplain or Muslim interpreter will give instructions to the detainee who will handle the Koran. He may or may not require a language specific interpreter.

    d. The inspector is examining so as to notice an unauthorized items, markings, or any indicators that raises suspicion about the contents of the Koran.

    e. The inspector will instruct the detainee to first open the one cover with one hand while holding the Koran in the other thus exposing the inside cover completely.

    f. The inspector instructs the detainee to open pages in an upright manner (as if reading the Koran). This is a random page search and not every page is to be turned. Pages will be turned slowly enough to clearly see the pages.

    g. The inspector has the detainee show the inside of the back cover of the Koran.

    h. The detainee is instructed to show both ends of the Koran while the book is closed so that inspector can note the binding while closed paying attention to abnormal contours or protrusions associated with the binding. The intent is to deduce if anything may be in the binding without forcing the detainee to expose the binding, which may be construed as culturally insensitive or offensive given the significance of the Koran.

    i. How the detainee reacted, observation by other detainees, and other potentially relevant observations will be annotated appropriately on the block significant activities sheet as well as staff journal.

    4. Handling.

    a. Clean gloves will be put on in full view of the detainees prior to handling.

    b. Two hands will be used at all times when handling the Koran in manner signaling respect and reverence. Care should be used so that the right hand is the primary one used to manipulate any part of the Koran due to the cultural association with the left hand. Handle the Koran as if it were a fragile piece of delicate art.

    c. Ensure that the Koran is not placed in offensive areas such as the floor, near the toilet or sink, near the feet, or dirty/wet areas.

    5. Removal.

    a. Korans should be left in the cell as a general rule (save in MSU), even when a detainee is moved to another cell or block. In principal, every cell (except MSU) will have a Koran “assigned” to it.

    b. If a Koran must be removed at the direction the CJDOG, the detainee library personnel or Chaplain will be contacted to retrieve and properly store the Koran in the detainee library. The request for the librarian/Chaplain, as well as the retrieval itself, will be logged appropriately.

    c. If the Chaplain, librarian, or Muslim interpreter, within the needs of the situation, cannot remove the Koran, then the MP may remove the Koran after approved by the DOC (who notes this in the MP Blotter) IAW the following procedures:

    1) Clean gloves will be put on in full view of the detainees prior to handling

    2) Two hands will be used at all times when handling the Koran in manner signaling respect and reverence.

    3) Place a clean, dry, detainee towel on the detainee bed and then place the Koran on top of the clean towel in a manner, which allows it to be wrapped without turning the Koran over at any time in a reverent manner. Ensure that the Koran is not placed in offensive areas such as the floor, near the toilet or sink, near the feet, or dirty/wet area when doing this activity.

    d. How the detainee reacted, observation by other detainees, and other potentially relevant observations will be annotated appropriately on the block significant activities sheet as well as staff journal.

    e. The Koran shall be returned to the librarian, Chaplain, or DOC (in that order).

    f. Exception: Detainee in MSU may have a Koran if specifically authorized by a 508-1 or the Level 5 Block Entitlement Form. Once detainee leaves MSU, the same handling/removing policies and procedures remain in effect.

    6. Korans are the property of the U.S. Government and as such will remain in the cells only to be removed at the JDOG Commander’s decision.

  5. I cannot believe the respect for their book demands like wearing gloves to handle it and not leaving it in damp areas, ensuring clean hands and all that crap…that is only for infidels. Infidels are not supposed to read their book. They don’t want us to uncover the truth.

    Regarding similarities with the stories of Adam and Eve, Noah, the flood,” these stories were all fabricated by Muhammad…example;
    “He said, ‘Allah created the earth on Sunday and Monday. He created the mountains and the uses they possess on Tuesday. On Wednesday He created trees, water, cities and the cultivated and barren land. On Thursday, He created heaven. On Friday, He created stars, the sun, moon, and angels, until three hours remained. In the first of these three hours, He created the terms, who would live and who would die. In the second, He cast harm upon everything that is useful for mankind. And in the third, Adam, and had him dwell in Paradise.'”

    Tabari I:189 “The Messenger took me by the hand and said, ‘Allah created soil on Saturday. Upon it, He created the mountains on Sunday. He created the trees on Wednesday, scattered animals on Thursday, and made Adam as the last of His creatures after the afternoon prayer on Friday.'”
    How could there be afternoon prayer on Friday if man wasn’t created yet? Hmmm.
    Tabari I:189 “The Jews asked the Prophet, ‘What about Sunday?’ The Messenger answered, ‘On it, Allah created the earth and spread it out.’ They asked about Monday, and he replied: ‘On it He created Adam.'” So much for the Friday afternoon prayer. “Then they asked about Saturday and mentioned God’s resting on it. Then the Prophet got very angry so Allah then revealed to him: ‘We have created the heavens and the earth and what is between them in six days and fatigue did not touch Us.'” This became Qur’an 50:38.
    How could Allah have written this trash? Would Allah be so imperfect?
    Muhammad was an illiterate fool but he knew he could con the dim-witts of the desert pagan rites into believing him. The Jews, however were smart enough to see through his smoke. That is why Jews have been hated ever since. They’re too smart to believe in a man-made moron like Muhammad’s Allah.

  6. Too bad these “interfaith symposium” idiots couldn’t spend a little time at the huge new Planned Parenthood killing center in Houston instead of worrying about a book. Unborn children’s remains are routinely incinerated after they are aborted. Courtesy of your tax dollars, hundreds of millions of which have funded PP programs, especially sex indoctrination in schools. Over a million abortions in America per year–yawn–but spring into action lest we offend the “sacred” book of Islam.

  7. For those with short memory – a child was beaten to death by an islamist in Nigeria because the child had found a torn page of the quran and gave it to the islamist. This behavior is NOT abnormal in the muslim world. For those who believe that dialogue between islamists and the rest of the world is possible one can only say “open your eyes…”. For those who decry the burning of the quran on the grounds that “we are better…” etc my answer is simple. We are in a war with islamists and the war is not of our making. The goal is to retain our culture and to destroy the islamists, not least for the sake of the normal muslim populations. We use whatever we need to use to destroy them!

  8. He’s not burning every koran in the world ( unfortunately ) -it’s not a form of censorship – it’s a symbolic gesture .
    Anyway , muslims are always burning western flags , Christian churches , Christian homes ( sometimes with Christians inside )
    But it’s always them who are outraged !

  9. As a Christian, I stand in solidarity with my brother in Christ, Pastor Jones.

    If there is any backlash from the muslim community, so be it; there will be either way; better than these koolaid drinking Jews and Christians submitting to a dhemmi in answering for all of.

    What is love without the truth; God has many attributes not only love, but mercy, absolute truth, perfect justice and one will not overrule the other ones.

    Deliver the message, Pastor, my prayers for all your followers.

  10. John 3:16 is from the New Testament, not the Bible. John was an apostle of Jesus, nothing to do with the fables and legends and myth often associated with the Old Testament.

    As far as burning books – this is a Nazi trait, and a trait of terror and terrorists, so we should not do this and burning anything is not environmentally friendly. Kaw has hit it on the head. Toilet paper, or fish and chip wrapping, lining cupboards, cleaning windows, recycle bins anything but burning. It is not good for our Planet and neither are terrorists.

  11. I may disagree with the church’s burning of the Qur’an, but I will defend to the death their right to burn it.

  12. Why aren’t the moderate Muslims enraged with their fellow Muslims for the outrages committed in the name of Islam. We can start with the murder of 3000 innocent Americans at GZ and go on to London,Beslan, Mumbai and a few days ago the heinous murder of the Israelis in the West Bank. Since 9/11 there have been nearly 16,000 jihad attacks. Come on, show me your outrage, moderate Muslims or are they rare like unicorns.

  13. Fifteen of the nineteen the 9/11 hijackers were Muslims from Saudi Arabia. I have a simple suggestion. Bring plenty of Saudi Arabian flags to spit on, trample on and burn it at the end of the 9/11 gathering in New York. No Muslim should object because they were burning and trampling Scandinavian flags which has the sign of the cross.

  14. Therese, you are off target in stating that the New Testament is not part of the Bible; on the contrary it is an intrinsic part of the Bible.

    On the other hand, I enjoy your messages here and you are obviously sincere.

  15. where is the evidence to say Fifteen of the nineteen hijackers were muslim most of the “supposed” hijackers are living in saudi. show me the evidence to say who carried out the attack. any 1 can read the quran not just muslims, most of the people who quote from the q’uran are taking it out of context or just talking shite. the quran says not to kill innocent people, so whoever done the attacks has nothing to do with my religeon. burn the q’uran if you want shows how low some people go

Comments are closed.