Find Wilders not guilty of insulting groups, prosecutors tell court
Anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders should be found not guilty of insulting Muslims and non-western immigrants as a group, the public prosecution department said at the MP’s trial on Tuesday.
By likening the Koran to Hitler’s Mein Kampf, Wilders was focusing on Islam and the Koran, rather than Muslims, even if the statement can be considered upsetting, the public prosecutors said during court hearings in Amsterdam.
In addition, there can only be talk of collective insult when a statement damages the entire group, the prosecutors said.
The public prosecutors began outlining their sentencing demands on Tuesday, in the second week of the MPÂ´s trial.
In addition to group insult, Wilders has also been charged with discrimination and inciting hatred.
The department will outline its case and sentence demand on those charges on Friday.
The department has also said that none of the groups and individuals making formal complaints about Wilders are eligible for damages.
But then we have this:
“The Truth is No Defense”
Robert Spencer received the following message earlier today from a reader in the Netherlands:
If it is Â illegal in the Netherlands to tell the truth, then the light of freedom is in imminent danger of going out not just in the Netherlands but all over the West.
Dear Mr. Spencer,At 09.45 Amsterdam local time the prosecution stated that “no matter whether Wilders’ publications are true or not, this does not mean that he can express those as facts”.
This means telling the truth, even well documented, can still mean jail is coming.
So, apparently The Netherlands are already back in the dark ages.
UPDATE: Yes, it’s accurate. “Prosecutors: Dutch anti-Islam politician can’t defend himself by arguing his comments are true,” fromÂ The Associated Press, October 12:
AMSTERDAM — Prosecutors say Dutch politician Geert Wilders cannot defend himself on hate speech charges by arguing that remarks he has made critical of Islam are true.They say there is no general agreement about the nature of Islam and his statements are only his opinion….
Prosecutor Birgit van Roessel said at the start of her closing arguments Tuesday that the right to freedom of speech has limits, including when it infringes too far on the right of freedom of religion….
Some more bad news:
Radical imam takes Wilders to court for damaging his good name
Radical The Hague imam Fawaz Jneid (terrorist scum) is demanding â‚¬55,000 in damages from MP Geert Wilders for using video footage of him without permission in his anti-Islam film compliation Fitna. Â (DutchNews)
Here you can watch the lying rat:
Some good news also:
Left-Green Gets a Wake-up Call
THE HAGUE, 12/10/10 – Leftwing Green (GroenLinks) leader Femke Halsema believes that progressive politicians and thinkers should dare to make more criticisms of Islam. They are too often accepting the pressure that radical Muslims put on the Islamic community, in her view. Halesema says it is high time that leftwing politicians view the position of women and homosexuals within Islamic communities just as critically as they do when it comes to Christianity. This does not happen at present because there is too much black-and-white thinking, in her view. “There are two flavours: you are either a multiculturalist or an Islam haters,” she said in a lecture on freedom of religion in Utrecht’s Jacobi church.
Halsema condemns this view. As far as she is concerned, everyone can believe how and what they wish, as long as it is a free choice. “Many Salafist, orthodox views have broad support within the Dutch Islamic community. (…) These views are forcefully imposed from above and have great consequences for the freedom of women and homosexuals in particular.” “The passion that we exercise to this day to give practising homosexuals access to Reformed Christian schools (…) we should also display to ensure Islamic gays and women are allowed to make their free choice,” said Halsema. Halsema considers that leftwing politicians should support the board of a Belgian school which wants to introduce a ban on headscarves to prevent their forcible imposition. On the other hand, everyone who wants to wear a headscarf of their own free will should be able to do so, including police officers, according to Halsema.
“I am convinced that there are thousands of Muslim women in the Netherlands who – due to prescriptions enforced by Islamic authority and complied with faithfully by fathers, uncles and sons – have too little freedom of movement. (…) In my own neighbourhood, I see too often that girls are abused if they do not wear a headscarf,” said Halsema afterwards. “That I call coercion. Just like suggesting that it is your own fault that you are raped if you do not wear a headscarf.”