Free Speech is "unacceptable" and "harmful to the (Muslim) community"

An 80-year-old Anglican woman in southern England  caused quite a controversy with a brief essay published in her parish magazine.

Is That What We In Britain Really Want? (GoV)

Here are excerpts from the news article about the controversy.

Needless to say, the local Muslims are upset. According to the MSM article:

WKMA president Nasir Jamil said: “We strongly condemn these views”….


For Counterjihad regulars, the sentiments expressed here will seem exactly right….

‘Freedom of expression constitutes one of the essential foundations of a democratic society; subject to paragraph 2 of Article 10 (art. 10-2), it is applicable not only to “information” or “ideas” that are favourably received or regarded as inoffensive or as a matter of indifference, but also to those that offend, shock or disturb. (Sunday Times v United Kingdom (2) Paragraph 50(a))

This is settled law. There is no legal basis whatsoever for the British state, or anyone else within the borders of the United Kingdom, trying to interfere with her right, as enshrined in Article 10(1) of the Human Rights Act 1998, to freedom of expression.

We should not repeal the Enlightenment to appease Ayatollahs

Indeed. We should not. But the enlightened progressives, the multiculti-brigades, the politically correct social engineers, our elected and unelected ‘leaders’ know better what’s good for us. The secretive EUromed project is but one example. (Notice how they only refer to the Arab world as ‘the Mediterranean.'”)

Islam: back to the Dark Ages

CONOR CRUISE O’BRIEN/ THE INDEPENDENT (thanks to Mullah)

This writer points to a troubling,  unholy alliance between Christian clergy and Islamic headbangers. What unites men of the cloth is power in this world, not in the next…..

THE ECONOMIST has devoted more than 30 columns to a ‘survey’ on the subject of how to love fundamentalist Islam. As I realise that I stand in need of instruction on this subject, I read the survey with interest. Specifically, I was curious to read what it would say about the fatwa sentencing Salman Rushdie to death. I thought it would be difficult to avoid this topic in any sustained discussion of the relationship between fundamentalist Islam and the West.

Difficult, but not impossible, as I found when I had ploughed my way through that survey. Not a word about Salman Rushdie, unless perhaps we are to understand his case somehow to be subsumed in the following paragraph about the case of Iran, in the context of the hope for ‘harmony’ between the West and fundamentalist Islam:

‘The hope (of harmony) even survived the Iranian revolution of 1979 . . . Iran’s revolutionaries started out as snarling enemies. They can still growl and bite. But time, and the sobering experience of government, have made them noticeably milder in their foreign policy as well as in what they do at home.’

This is the sort of thing that British and French devotees of appeasement used to write in the mid-Thirties. ‘Time, and the sobering experience of government’ were forever about to do wonders for Adolf Hitler, and we may be sure that these factors will exert an equally chastening influence on the character and disposition of Ayatollah Khamenei.

To say that the Iranian regime has got ‘noticeably milder’ is not just untrue; it is the reverse of the truth. The regime in Iran is getting noticeably more ferocious, as the recent bombings of Jewish targets in London and Buenos Aires attest. The Argentine authorities at least have no doubt as to the origin of the bombing that took the lives of nearly 100 people in Buenos Aires. They believe that the atrocity was planned in the Iranian embassy in the city, on the orders of Ayatollah Khamenei, chief religious authority in Iran and also Minister for the Interior.

There is no distinction, in Islam, between the spheres of religion and politics, and no terrestrial limit to the dual jurisdiction of such an official. For infidels to seek ‘harmony’ with Islam is an illusion. The only way of attaining harmony with Islam is by conversion. The Economist seems to think that this might not be too bad an idea. According to the survey, ‘. . . Islam claims to be an idea based upon a transcendent certainty. The certainty is the word of God, revealed syllable by syllable to Mohamed in a dusty corner of Arabia 1400 years ago and copied down in the Koran. As a means of binding a civilisation together there is no substitute for such a certainty.’

Is there not? If so, the West, and Britain in particular, are in quite a bad way, as compared at least with the civilisation of the Muslim world, whose rulers are happily bound together by Islamic certainty.

The survey goes on to discuss the important thing that is in common between the West and fundamentalist Islam. The thing is religion, which should link rather than divide Western civilisation and the Islamic variety. ‘Both have their origins in religions that believe in a single God and any Westerner who asks what that has to do with modern life needs to think about what made the West as it is today.’

I had thought that the Enlightenment, that potent dispeller of illusory ‘certainties’, had more to do with ‘what made the West as it is today’ than had the Age of Faith. I had also thought that the fact that the Islamic world is still stuck in the Age of Faith, and apparently determined to get stuck still deeper in it, had something to do with the present not altogether enviable mental and material condition of the inhabitants of the Islamic world.

The Economist, however, implies that we would do well to repeal the Enlightenment in order to attain the bliss of harmony with the likes of Ayatollah Khamenei. Readers will make up their minds as to whether or not this would be a good bargain. I suspect that the Economist, when it writes in this lofty strain about religion, history and civilisation, may really be thinking about oil and money. That is its proper sphere, after all.

This week an even more important world personality than the editor of the Economist has been thinking along similar lines. The Guardian describes Pope John Paul II as having ‘forged an alliance with Islamic fundamentalists in Iran aimed at blocking a global agreement on population due to be endorsed in Cairo next month’. Nor is this appetising alliance to be confined to the question of abortion.

There was a meeting in Tehran on Monday between the Papal Nuncio and Mohammed Hashemi Rafsanjani, deputy foreign minister and (probably more importantly) brother of the Iranian President. After the meeting, Rafsanjani told the press of ‘the future war between the religious and the materialists. Collaboration between religious governments in support of outlawing abortion is a fine beginning for the conception of collaboration in other fields.’

Rafsanjani did not say what ‘other fields’ he had in mind, but I can think of some. Blasphemy, for instance. Under the influence of the godless project known as the Enlightenment, Western governments have become deplorably remiss in relation to the punishment of blasphemy and sacrilege. How much better they order these matters in Islam] But this new ecumenical alliance has the capacity to close the gap between Islam and the West, with regard to the punishment of offences against religion.

Why should a writer who shows disrespect for the Virgin Mary not be treated in the same way as one who shows disrespect for the Koran? ‘The future war . . . between the religious and the materialists’ need not be just a metaphor. There are opportunities for the real thing. Tehran could help, for example, with the funding of attacks on abortion clinics, and the execution of doctors who have performed abortions.

Some years ago Dr Jeremiah Newman, Bishop of Limerick – an ecclesiastic clearly in advance of his time – preached a sermon in praise of Islam. He told his probably bemused flock that it was their duty ‘to catch up with Islam’. The particular aspect of Islam which Dr Newman thought most deserving of emulation was respect for the clergy. I think the Pope has a rather wider agenda than that in mind, and one which the Economist might well approve. The project is nothing less than the repeal of the Enlightenment, with the aid of Islam.

If we are not very careful we shall find ourselves ‘catching up with Islam’ indeed – on the way back to the Dark Ages.

5 thoughts on “Free Speech is "unacceptable" and "harmful to the (Muslim) community"”

  1. * WKMA president Nasir Jamil said: “We strongly condemn these views”….

    A comment on the “This is Kent” article

    [Having done a bit of research it would appear that the west kent muslim association doesnt exist. Mr Jamil is actually a Southborough Conservative Councillor …]

    A search on “West Kent Muslim Association” “Nasir Jamil” doesn’t bring up much at all, but that won’t be a bar to Britain’s diversity police and prosecutors.

  2. I would like readers to contrast the newpaper articel on the Kent article, with what was actually written. The discrepancy is massive and suggest extreme dishonesty verging on criminal behavior by the jounalist and editor responsible,
    Here is what the 80 year old woman wrote:

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    “Islamisation
    by Mrs. Muriel Clark

    In view of the worldwide media interest in the fate of Mrs. Ashtiani in Iran, I am concerned about the ever increasing Islamisation of our own country, and think we should take a stand against: ¿

    a) uncontrolled immigration of Muslims whose birth rate exceeds that of other groups.
    b) allowing Turkey to enter the EU with the inevitable consequence of the increase in our Muslim population.
    c) establishment of non-integrated Islamic communities, including no-go areas to so-called ¿infidels¿ in our cities.
    d) imposition of ¿sharia¿ laws, taking precedence over our legal and banking systems.
    e) ¿halal¿ meat and dairy products stealthily introduced into our prisons, schools and shops.
    f) the sometimes intense, and often subtle promotion of Islam in many primary schools in order to influence impressionable young minds.

    If we are honest, we know about the oppression of Islamic regimes in Muslim lands, where ¿infidels¿ are not tolerated. Is that what we in Britain really want?

    Despite the seeming lack of faith in our Christian heritage, even in sections of the Church nowadays, I am convinced that by far the majority do not welcome these undoubted pressures to bring our country into submission to Islam.”

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    ALL OF THESE POINTS ARE VALID AND NEED ACTIVE DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY NOW,

  3. The truth about islam will always be the greatest threat to islam. The more people who educate themselves about the reality of islam, the more weapons in our arsenal. Yes, the truth WILL set you free, in this case.

  4. O you are awful Muriel!

    sometimes the voice coming out of the like this dear lady can do more than the detractors.

    Of course Free Speech is going to hurt Muslims and so it should. If the fire is too hot in the kitchen then go elsewhere. No one is asking them to stay. God forbid.

    We have to support our people who come out like Muriel and at every possible opportunity tell all we can about Islam. If we were allowed to tell all in our newspapers, we would definately be at war with the Muslims. Bring it on!

    Sheik, I was trying to access Bare Naked Islam yesterday and wanted to see what they have on video regarding “Puppy Love” by muslims and any other poor animal they choose to have sex with. It seems we are blocked to this part of the site. Do you have any info on this please.

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