So how's that Egyptian freedom & democracy thing coming along?

Sharia ueber alles!

Democracy on the march: Muslim Brotherhood calls for Egyptian modesty police

The appalling culture of sexual harassment and abuse on Egyptian streets is no secret. Most often, the women being victimized are blamed; as we found out from Arab News readers last fall in a story on this topic, silly kuffar, self control is for girls.

Don’t call me a party pooper for saying the whole place  will turn into one big Islamic hell-hole,  I tried to tell you:

Salafi Group Demands Implementation of Sharia Law, Calls on Non-Muslims to Submit to Islam… (Al-Masry Al-Youm via ZIP)

The Salafi group in Alexandria said it is seeking to implement Islamic Sharia law no matter how difficult the task.

During a conference held at Amr Ibn al-Aas mosque in Giza on Friday,several of the group’s leaders called on non-Muslims to accept the rule of Islam which it argues provides sufficient protection for them.

Salafi leaders also said they are holding their conference to respond to “media attacks” and “the lies of liberalism” and general “anti-Islamic” sentiment.

Hold on to your seat: “some claim that Salafis are more dangerous than Jews.”

Muslim Brotherhood Calls For Religious Police:

(JPost)- Officials of the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s leading Islamic group, have called for the establishment of a Saudi-style modesty police to combat “immoral” behavior in public areas in what observers say in another sign of a growing Islamic self-confidence in the post-Mubarak era.

“Largely Secular”

ZIP: I wonder if Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper still thinks the Brotherhood is a “largely secular” group?

Modern, Educated Muslim & UN “Watchdog”

ElBaradei: We’ll fight back if Israel attacks Gaza (Thereby the old jackass ElBaradei acknowledges that Gaza is part of Egypt. Go for it:  feed them already!)

In interview with Arab newspaper, former IAEA chief says if elected as Egypt’s next president he will open Rafah crossing in case of an Israeli attack.  (ElBaradei deceived the world for more than a decade by denying the genocidal mullah’s in Iran are building a bomb. He also deceived us about the Muslim Brotherhood, together with his Muslim brother Fareed Zakaria.)

7 thoughts on “So how's that Egyptian freedom & democracy thing coming along?”

  1. Yes – and watch them precipitate the next WW by trying to squeeze the West’s oil supplies! That is what the nukes from Pakiland and Iran are for – to prevent the Western armies from shutting the muslims down (which they can do very easily) by threating western civil infrastructure.

  2. Interesting:

    Egypt’s military rulers: “Egypt will not be ruled by another Khomeini”

    It will be interesting to see how far they’re willing to go to make sure it will not be. “We will not allow ‘another Khomeini’ to take control of Egypt, army says,” from DPA, April 5 (thanks to Block Ness):
    Egypt’s military rulers have said they will not allow religious “extremist factions” to control the country, the Al Masry Al Youm newspaper reported Tuesday. “Egypt will not be ruled by another Khomeini,” members of Supreme Council of the Armed Forces were quoted in the report as saying at a meeting with newspaper editors. Ayatollah Khomeini is the cleric who led the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran. “The Council will not allow extremist factions to control Egypt,” Deputy Defense Minister Mohammed Mokhtar al-Mella reportedly said. The comments by the Armed Forces came amid concerns over the growing influence of the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s largest opposition group, as well as Salafi groups…. (Source)

  3. And of course we can be sure that Rabid Mohammedan El Baradei was honest and truthful in his dealings with his Mohammedan BROTHERS over the Nuclear question in Iran. Yeah of course he was.

  4. Egypt: Pro-Sharia Islamic supremacists eclipse secular forces

    I tried to tell you. “Islamists in Egypt seek change through politics,” by Jeffrey Fleishman for the Los Angeles Times, April 3:

    Reporting from Alexandria, Egypt—Nageh Ibrahim once spoke of slaying infidels and creating an Islamic state that would stretch from the Nile Delta to the vast deserts of Egypt’s south. Today he lives in a high-rise with a view of the Mediterranean Sea and has the soothing voice of a man who could lead a 12-step program on rejecting radicalism.
    Ibrahim’s group, Gamaa al Islamiya, plotted notorious attacks, including the 1981 assassination of President Anwar Sadat and the massacre at an ancient Luxor temple that killed 62 people, mostly tourists, in 1997. He spent 24 years in jail reading the Koran and tempering the rage of his youth.

    “We were young and we took extreme measures. But now we’re old men and our time in prison has made us wiser,” he said. “Al Qaeda and Islamic militancy have lost their glamour. Look at what has happened. The young saw that violence didn’t bring change to Egypt, a peaceful revolution did.”

    Ibrahim is one of an increasing number of ultraconservative and moderate Islamists seeking a political voice in a new Egypt. Since the downfall in February of President Hosni Mubarak, who for three decades kept religion far from the center of power, the Islamist message is unshackled. The Muslim Brotherhood, the largest opposition party, expects a strong showing in September’s parliamentary elections.

    The secular reformers and twentysomething urbanites at the vanguard of the Jan. 25 revolution have found themselves eclipsed. They lack experience and grass-roots networks to compete with the Brotherhood and other religious groups that have quietly stoked their passions for this moment. In a sense, Mubarak’s obsession with both co-opting and crushing Islamists instilled in them the discipline and organization that now propels their political agendas….

    Egypt is not the only nation where Islamic messages are whispering alongside the clamor of revolt. In Yemen, religious radicals are seeking to exploit anti-government protests against President Ali Abdullah Saleh, a U.S. ally against Al Qaeda. In Syria, conservative Sunni Muslims more antagonistic toward Israel than President Bashar Assad could fill the vacuum if his government is toppled.

    The Muslim Brotherhood’s calls for a relatively mainstream Islamic government appeals to its majority of educated and professional members. In Egypt’s first taste of true democracy, the Brotherhood and more fundamentalist Salafist organizations, however, told followers that it was their religious duty to vote to approve a referendum on constitutional amendments that benefited Islamists by speeding up elections.

    One of Egypt’s leading ultraconservative sheiks, Mohamed Hussein Yacoub, influenced by Saudi Arabia’s Wahhabi strain of Islam, was quoted as saying after the referendum had passed: “That’s it. The country is ours.”

    Such sentiment shows that in a span of weeks, age-old religion, not the enthusiasm and slogans of the Facebook generation, is likely to be a crucial factor in choosing a new Egyptian government. This swift change has surprised even the Brotherhood, which avoided references to Islam during an uprising that was not inspired by religion.

    Emerging secularist parties may yet find support from those fearful that bearded men and the Islamic tenets of radical elements within the Brotherhood are hijacking the revolution. The military council’s decision to hold parliamentary elections in September instead of May will give nonreligious parties more time to win voters. But liberals and secularists have not regained the momentum they enjoyed in the early days of the revolt, even as extremist gangs recently attacked a cafe that sells alcohol and cut off the ear of a man accused of renting a flat to “indecent women.”

    Nageh Ibrahim possesses the inured patience of a man still in prison, elucidating nuances, hands flowing in hours of conversation. He sees himself as part of a great, unfolding narrative. His decades-long arc from terrorist plotter to peaceful preacher embodies the history, danger and promise of the new Middle East and North Africa. He has written more than two dozen books on religion and travels the country warning against Islamic extremism and the cruel vestiges of Mubarak’s rule.

    “Mubarak basically banned religion. There was always a crackdown,” he said. “But with this new freedom we will be able to explore Islam. The key is perpetuating moderate Islam. We have to be vigilant. Extremism could slip into our freedom. Radicals don’t need high numbers. Twenty men can make an Al Qaeda cell.”

    Ibrahim was a young medical student specializing in dermatology when he embraced Gamaa al Islamiya. The group called for an Islamic caliphate and condemned Mubarak, whom it tried to assassinate, as an infidel. Ibrahim said 50,000 of its members were arrested, including at least 100 who were executed, during Mubarak’s reign….

    “Over the years,” said Ibrahim, “it became apparent that violence harmed us and the image of Islam. The state could always hit us back harder than we could hit them. It became practical to stop violence and look for a peaceful way. I discovered while studying Sharia law in prison that Islam didn’t entitle us to bloodshed.”…

    “Today’s young grew up freer than we did. They did not develop the same rage that inspired us,” he said. “Even the Islamic movement is seeing things differently. It’s trying to speak to our current times. Before, we thought you could remove the infidel ruler only through force. Today, we see we can do it through peaceful protest and the ballot box.”

    This distinction only impresses particularly ignorant Western analysts — i.e., most of them — who don’t realize that the goal remains the same even when the means are different.

    Critics regard reinvented Islamists such as Ibrahim as opportunists promising moderation while remaining privately committed to dangerous, ultraconservative ideals. He has denied in recent years that radicals in his group are sympathetic to Al Qaeda. The 30,000 members, he said, support pluralism, including allowing Christian Copts to join a political wing that Gamaa al Islamiya plans to establish.
    Despite his eloquent phrases, however, Ibrahim, the unruly beard of his youth now threaded with gray, has limits on his vision of democracy. Similar to the beliefs held by the Muslim Brotherhood, he would not support a woman or a Copt as president, and he thinks the new constitution, like the existing one, must be rooted in Islamic law.

    “A Copt could run as president, but Egypt is a Muslim nation, and a Christian president would escalate tensions. Does France have a Muslim president?” he said. “I don’t think a woman should be president. The Middle East is too complicated.”…

    Actually, the oppression of women in Islam isn’t complicated at all.

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