Wealthy Saudis Purchase Sex Slaves – Girls Ages 5-12…

The story of Aisha & Muhammad is perpetuated as long as the pedophile bandit of 7th century Arabia is worshiped in any part of the world.

Thanks to KGS from the Tundra Tabloids:

File picture of an Indonesian cleric with child bride…….

Yes folks, what’s happening in the Islamic world is far worse than anything the Catholic Church could ever be accused of. When it comes to pedophilia,  Islam approves of adult-child sexual relations. In many Muslim countries they call it marriage, but we call it rape, the sexual abuse of minors. This institutionalized form of rape was sanctioned by the founder of Islam, and central to the question of why it’s still tolerated in the Islamic world today. KGS

Aftenposten: Girl Children between five and 12 years old are sold to wealthy men in Saudi Arabia, where they are held as sex slaves. When they reach maturity, and many are thrown on the street and they end quickly as a prostitute.


TRON STRAND

Save the Children appeal to the Norwegian and Swedish ministers take up the issue with their Saudi counterparts, and asks private companies to take up the exploitation of children when they hit their business.

– I am not surprised by the information about the existence of such traffic to Saudi Arabia and other countries in the region, particularly in light of that marriage with children is widespread and accepted, “said Sannah Johnson, regional director of the Middle East for the Swedish Save the Children.

A well-organized network of traffickers supplying the Arab market with child brides from the North African country of Mauritania, says U.S. diplomats. Retrieved as sex slaves in their thousands from Yemen, in addition to that there is an extensive sex industry in Yemen offering sex with minors to rich men from the Gulf states, the Wikileaks documents and Aftenposten Bergens Tidende has access to.

7. April 2009

An engaged woman meets an American diplomat in Mauritania’s capital Nouakchott. The day after the diplomat writes a report back to Washington. To start it:

“There is an increase in reports of trafficking of child brides to Saudi Arabia. The girls, usually between five and 12 years old, married off to wealthy Saudi men in exchange for hefty price tags for brides. As soon as they arrive in Saudi Arabia, they become sex slaves of their husbands. “

The engaged woman named Aminetou Mint El Moctar. Completely on their own, she has started a campaign to get the authorities in Mauritania to take the problem seriously. She will not even answer his letters and asks why the United States take up the issue internationally. At the U.S. embassy, ​​she finds one that finally listens.

Large sums of money

Aminetou Mint El Moctar says that traffickers seek out poor families to get them to marry off their daughters to wealthy Saudis. The younger girls are, the higher the price. A child bride can be paid with 5 – 6 million in the local currency ouguiya, equivalent to around 120 000. Local travel agencies, which in reality is a network of traffickers, organized traffic. The local agent receives a bonus paid by the girls’ future husbands. Amount of which depends on the girls’ age and beauty.

The embassy memo further states that “barnebrudene, as soon as they arrive in Saudi Arabia, the sex slaves of their husbands.” Aminetou explained that the girls, as they reach puberty and become pregnant, no longer of interest to their husbands. “They rolled on the street, and since they do not have any network, they have no other choice than to be prostitute.”

 

Entrapment

Officials from the U.S. embassy tells of a girl who for three years was locked in a room where she met with someone other than her Saudi husband and his maid. They also refer to an article in the Radio France International with a diploma from seven-year-old Mulheri exposed to traffickers and sold to Saudi Arabia.

At the same time victims of trafficking in danger of being prosecuted in Saudi Arabia. Mint El Moctar told diplomats that around 30 Mauritanian women are sentenced to imprisonment in Saudi Arabia to be a prostitute, even though they are victims of trafficking.

Mauritania has long refused to recognize the problem. Faced with U.S. diplomats have a representative of Mauritania Justice Department argued that “the trafficking of Mauritanian women do not exist and that human trafficking to Saudi Arabia is not possible because the country’s laws require that a woman can only travel accompanied by male family members.”

Death threats

According to the embassy note has Aminetou Mint El Moctar told she has “received death threats and she is called” liar, a crazy woman and a traitor who destroy Mauritania reputation. “

Aminetou Mint El Moctar was honored last year by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton just for his work against human trafficking and to put the problem of child brides on the agenda of the African country.
U.S. publishes reports on human trafficking in every country. About Saudi Arabia says the latest report from 2010:

“Many Saudis, including some representatives of government, continues to deny that some types of human trafficking takes place, particularly in cases involving sexual exploitation.”
Closed countries

Sanna Johnson in Swedish Save the Children lead the organization’s activities in the Middle East from his office in Beirut. She says that independent organizations can not escape to Saudi Arabia and that the country is very closed.

– We know well that the child workers and domestic workers are as good as legal rights in the country. They have no rights. The Kingdom has suggested that professionals employed in hospitals where women who have been victims of abuse, be received. This means that the government acknowledges that the problem exists, “says Johnson.

– There are things that are not acceptable as marriage of minors. It must be highlighted. I think the governments of Norway and Sweden should take it up with their Saudi counterparts, when the opportunity presents itself. But I also think private companies should take it up with their business partners in the country, “said Johnson.

– The large companies, such as in the arms industry, can have an extremely large impact, “she said.
Gift for a while

Johnson also refers to the widespread practice of so-called temporary marriages in the Arab countries. To circumvent the ban on sex outside marriage, included men in these countries temporary marriages with girls and young women from several countries.

There is also some evidence that the practice of child brides is becoming a controversial issue in Saudi Arabia’s quasi-rooms. Many of its citizens deplore the practice. A few examples are discussed in the country’s media:

A local judge in the town of Nejd in 2008 refused to overturn a marriage between an eight-year-old girl and her husband for fifty years. The girl’s father sold her to settle its debt to the man. A higher court granted a divorce in April 2009.

The government-affiliated Commission on Human Rights in Saudi Arabia was able to void a marriage between a 10 year old girl and a 60-year-old man.

A court in Bisha issued in October 2008, a divorce document to end a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 70 year old man.

In January 2009, won an 11-year-old girl presented with a case to get a marriage annulled by a 75-year-old man, held by the girl’s 70 year old father.

Sex tourism

In Saudi Arabia neighboring Yemen is the problem of sex tourism, human interest and child brides formidable. It attracted international attention when the 12 year-old Fawzia Abdullah Yousef died in childbirth 11 September 2009. She was married to a 24-year-old, only 11 years old.

According to a note from the Embassy of Yemen’s capital Sanaa, about 25 percent of all girls in the country married before the age of 15 years. Yemeni authorities have, to the United States, expressed frustration over how little Saudi Arabia is doing to combat human trafficking from Yemen to Saudi Arabia.

According to an embassy memo, thousands of children each year in Saudi Arabia, “where they face abuse and harsh living conditions.”

Local human rights groups say it was long common for Saudi Arabia imprisoned minors, and minors must also have been were decapitated. Since 2008, Saudi Arabia, however, returned several minors to Yemen, instead of taking them into custody.

That rich tourists from the Gulf states travel to Yemen to buy sex, is a public secret in Yemen. Underage prostitute working out of many of the hotels in the country.

The embassy memo states that “Saudi men travel to Yemen to establish relations with underage prostitute, sometimes in the form of temporary marriage.” One source says he knows of “at least three instances where Saudi men have married Yemeni women and then force them into prostitution in Saudi Arabia.”

 

 

58 thoughts on “Wealthy Saudis Purchase Sex Slaves – Girls Ages 5-12…”

  1. You forgot to mention the problem Indonesia is currently having not with the sex slaves of Arabs, but their wives. Apparently a large number of Arabs come to
    Indonesia to marry a pretty little local girl, enjoy their honeymoon and then fax them a divorce on the way back home. Fortunately for the Arabs there is no alimony in Islam.

  2. It is really sickening to learn about the barbaric twisted Islams! They still practice pedophilia , just like their so-called prophet who married a 6 years old Aisha (according to Wafa Sultan)1400 years ago. Besides beheading ,suppressing and oppressing women, while marrying a child barely pronounce their name ! Sickening barbarians!

  3. The paedophile prophet, is being used as an excuse for modern day sicko’s, and so-called men who are not man enough to deal with grown up women.

  4. Radical Islam is truly “classical Islam” as they claim. The notoriety earned by their human rights abuses (including murder) to assert their dominance over the rest of the world has drawn the world’s attention to the doctrines and history of their “religion”. May the world never forget what they “teach” and what they “do” so that no decent human being will ever have the effrontery to profess allegiance to it in public. This shabby counterfeit of the Hebrew God pays lip service to the patriarchs but bears no resemblance to his law of the proper way for men and women to conduct themselves. It was drawn out of the Hashhish pipe and the over active sexual appetites of Muhammed and his followers.

  5. good to see they are at last getting the publicity they richly deserve,i see them with their family walking around my city,and wonder which one is the wife?and is that the real reason for the burka.?to hide the fact they are “married “to a child.if the koran that allows this behavior was written today it would be banned under human rights laws.instead these monsters use it against us to carry out all kinds of outrageous crimes.this is a bogus “religion”.ban it.

  6. You know what is sad? It doesn’t matter how much we bomb them. Doesn’t matter how many of these sickos we kill…they are ignorant (in the classical meaning), will be kept ignorant and will continue to think this system is ok. It is very, very sad that young girls (and ALSO boys, don’t let this sick “religion” make you believe they don’t rape boys) have to go through this year after year, generation after generation. The people that live their need to rise up. NOT the American soldier. It is a little thing called revolution.

  7. seikyermami: I won’t even watch or read that shit. Are you serious or just being a smart ass?

  8. Prophet Muhamed PBUH did marry Aisha when she was 6 but he wasnt sexually involved with her untill she reached puberty..and that was the common practice back then,actually that is the normal innate human practice no matter what media is trying to convince u..what made u think that 18 is the proper age for a girl to get married why not 16 or 14..actually every man deep inside in this planet wants to marry a young girl(not a child) i mean after puberty which is 12 years old..u r all in denial ironically media convinced u that is its ok for a man to marry another man or woman to marry a woman but its a big crime and rape and bla bla bla for a man to have a normalmarriage with a 14 or 15 years old girl..r u people serious?wake up..ur accusing prophet Muhamed PBUH to be a pedophile while he married a 40 years old woman when he was in his twenties he married more than 10 women age ranging from 6-40 how could he be a pedophile..every man in this earth wants and love to do that..u know why?because thats natural..that is how god created us..a man should have sexual relationship with any womanpast puberty 12 or 50 it doesnt matter…i am sure if ur media wants u to beilve that its ok for a man to marry his goat it could easly do that..islam is the greatest and fast growing religion because it respects humans need and dont go against them..wakeup ppl and use ur media poisoned minds.

  9. mhajden if you have a problem and I think you do we two can resolve this offline. You are lying. You are a scummy rat who will nail anything that moves even if it has four legs, or two… maybe you should marry a goat it will keep the little girls safe from you and isn’t donkey marriage a Muslim tradition anyway? A bizarre tradition. Your slave arrangement you call marriage is just your cover for being able to sodomize whoever you want to however much you want. You are lying. You cannot prove me wrong because I smell a pimp from a mile away.

  10. @mhajden

    Yes. Yes you are a pedophile.

    Desiring little girls is NOT natural and NORMAL healthy men desire women and NOT under developed little girls. Real men are repulsed by the bodies of little girls.

    “what made u think that 18 is the proper age for a girl to get married why not 16 or 14.”

    Biology, you ignorant POS, that causes us to determine what the proper age is.

    The human body stops developing in the mid twenties and that is the ideal time for marriage and procreation. Puberty starting at the age of 12 (if at that age it begins) is the START of adult sexual development in biological terms. And it is just that, the start, sexual organs are just starting to mature. It is for this reason why there are higher numbers of teens that die in child birth and die due to complications. Not to mention the younger the age of the child who gives birth, the higher likelihood the infant won’t survive.

    But, hey for a pig, like you, you can just sell another camel and purchase a new little girl to molest and rape, all over again.

    Thank you for coming on here and illuminating why Muslims and Islam is a sick religion full of sick people.

  11. To sheikyermami..if u think marrying a young girl who is 13 or 16 who is biologically ready to have sex and bear children they yes i am a pedophile u westren ignorants and if u think polygamy is wrong then u r all in denial as i mentioned earlier..we all menand we all know that deep inside u with wish and dream to have more than one woman..u know why?because that is natural..that is how god created u men desire to have lots of women and women is for one man..men mortality rates are hight because of wars and actions they do women numbers in socities are always higher than men that is why god made men like that..so every womancan get a man and have childrens u ignorants so back tour question..yes i am polygamistalso and am proud ofit.u know why?becauseit is NATURAL.

  12. To reddog333
    You wants to resolve ur problems with me offline right?..what r u gonna do?hit me?kick my butt? and then u come back and acuse us muslems of being violent and cant tolerate other ppls openions,u said i would nail anything that moves and if by that u mean women after puberty then yes i do that but only by marriage which is Halal,a natural man would be attracted to any female who can bear children and for ur surprise 15 and 14 years old girls can do that..but thatwould be a crime u know why?because u westrens sat the age to 18..17 and 11 monthes u r a pedophile…18 ur ok…please go and practice ur stupid laws in ur own countries and stop acusing natural people of these stupid words..u allow gay marriages u fags and u prohibit normal male to female marrige because of age boundries that only exists in ur imagination.

  13. To Hill
    Who said anything about desiring little undeveloped girls..i agree with u that is repulsive..but who said that a 14 yesr old girl is undeveloped..developmen is relative and u cant set a rule for it here in our environment a 14 or 15 years old girl is taller and more developed than u ..u think biology sets 18 is the age for marriage..please dont make me laught..i am a doctor and i can assure u that is completly false..the other thing that u r contradicting urself when u say that mid twenties is the right time for marriage while ur laws allow 18 an 19 years old marriage..why is that..so r u pedophile for marrying an 18 years old girl who is still not developed untill mid twenties?u r making me laugh again…if u check the marriageable age in all african and asiancountries u will find it under 18..all the humanity agree with that but u westrens..u mentioned the high death in child birth..that is another myth but let us not discus it now..who said u must have children untill uthink ur women is ready we r talking about marriage not giving birth..and prophet Muhamed never had children from Aisha…u prohibit teenage marriage but still ur teenagers are the most decadent of all humanity they date and have sex waay younger than ur stupid 18..they think it is old fashion to stay virgin..why dont u marry them..they r gonna have sex and get pregnant anyway….last word…u westren are all victims of ur media which has the ability to convince u that anything could be right or anything could be wrong..again it can even convince u that its honorable for a man to marry his goat.

  14. mhadjen,
    You certainly do not understand the West, so do not comment on what you do not understand. Everything that you accuse the West of can be found in islamic countries and the situation is far worse in islamic countries: there is no comparison – in every respect of social responsibility the West is superior to the backwards muslim culture that you are so ignorantly pround of. We are also not victims of our media – we are intelligent enought to interpret the truth and the falsehood – you and your muslim brethen are however not sufficiently intelligent to decipher anything for yourselves. You have demonstrated how stupid you are with your posts on this page – please continue because having morons like you demonstrate your ignorance and vile character is a good thing. There will be a major conflict soon, and when it is over islam will be gone – and the conflict will happen becuase you pathetic islamic scum will start it. Let the games begin – we do not need you useless scum anymore and your exisitence is a detriment to our species.

  15. @mhadjen

    I simply can’t be bothered to read your entire response. You lost me at I am a Doctor. That will almost keep laughing as much as the post on the Turkish socipath who wishes he could be compared to Habermas.

    Reread my post, I never once said, biology sets in at 18. Stop lying. And trying to put words in my mouth or twist my words to support your ignorant, backwards religious sanctioned pedophilia.

    I am sure the rest was the same unoriginal Islamic dogma that you and your co-peverts frequently use to perpetuate that delusion Islam is superior blah blah, blah.

    If you are a real Doctor, show us the peer review research that supports your arguments that sanctions sex with young girls (children) and the journal of medicine can not come from a ME shithole where camal piss is a recognised curative.

    1. Hill,

      in Pakistan you can get a doctor title for a few dollars in your neighbourhood mosque, so please don’t think for one moment that these certificates are worth the paper they’re written on.

      They can call themselves anything they want, but we still know what they are…..

  16. sheikyermami i am not from pakistan..i am not an arab ..i am an african muslim and dont worry my dgree is real am not a false doctor.

  17. mhadjen,
    Most of the people here are real doctors (both of Science and Medicine), and are more than capabable of deconstructing your moronic arguments in support of islam. Your comments show that you probably do not have the intellectual capability to be a solid performer in what ever your field is. You have taken pointless and baseless muslim rhetoric and used this garbage to frame your comments on a society that is as far from your understanding as is QED. Your comments are largely self-referential. Your degree might be real. but I suspect it is not worth much at all. On the other hand we understand you and your kind very well. Sadly you represent the problems that Africa has, and will have and you are incapable of presenting any real solution to help her and her people. Many of these problems are either directly or indirectly linked to the “efforts” of the islamic world to which you belong. The instability in Northern Nigeria is but one of many examples.

  18. mhajden I am not like you I don’t do violent things to people without asking permission first. Right I told you what you can do if you are too chicken to put your money where your mouth is that’s not my problem. What is not your problem: problems with teenagers here. That is a problem every society has to deal with and there are reasons for it being so bad here which I don’t want to go into… one of the reasons is a military infiltrated by foreigners and that is a whole other can of worms. But you do not get to promote your version of your perfect ideal society by telling others who have worked hard in our society (like me) what to do. All you want is some innocent defenseless person who is younger and weaker than you who you can practise your sodomy on. If you can get away with it you take anything that moves. You don’t ask permission you do whatever you want. If you are a Muslim who has any sense at all in that brain of yours you will know you cannot force others to think and believe the things you think are the real and ideal way to live. I did not create HIV, it came from hunters eating infected monkey meat in Africa. Then to top off your abuse of people who are weaker than you are and deserve better you claim that those are the people who created HIV and AIDS and that’s why you hate them and you want to be a terrorist. You are failing in your terrorism quest. You are fooling no one especially not me and you think I want to hit you? Maybe I do maybe I don’t. I can’t really do that because I would get into a fight with you. Sure you could just have a bottle of gel with you like the Jordanian terrorists. I didn’t accuse you of being violent I accused you of being indiscriminately violent. If you are in the UK or whatever and you don’t like the law then go to city hall or whatever and change the laws… it’s not my fault.

  19. @ Sheik,

    Thanks for the heads up on how cheaply medical degrees are given out in Pakistan, although, somehow I am not surprised.

    We already know the low level of intellectualism we are dealing from some of the rubbish spewed forth.

    @mhajden

    If you are indeed a medical doctor, you are a shame to your profession.

    As Reddogg333 said, “put your money where your mouth is” or shut up.

    Show us the peer review medical journals that support your claims? They can not be from Africa, the ME or Islamic (an oxymoron, if there ever was one.) based.

    But, you and I both know that those very journals will condem your position and reiterate across the board, the low birth rates and the high percentage of deaths from underage/young mothers, especially during labour and in the infants (due to the mothers age and under development) first year in African countries.

  20. To Kaw
    You said that i dont understand the west and i want to assure u that i lived their for a long time and i do understand it very very well..u said that the west is suprior in every aspect,i agree with u that the west is superior in some aspects regarding technology and scince but when it comes to social life they are way behindand twisted,when u said that u r not a victim of media i almost fell out of my chair laughting..isnt the media that convinced u of gay marriage and now westren media is promoting it all over the world after they are done with u..being intelligent adoesnt mean u r not going tobe a victim of media cause i can assure u they smarter than u..i will raise above all the name callings and go to the point where u said that a major conflict is going to happent..wake up ppl..the major conflict had already begun and u r wrong if u think it is going tobe a conflict of missiles and tanks..it its an intellectual conflict and it is very obvious who is winning.
    You said that i represent the problem that africa has…the only problem that Africa had and still suffering from is westren colonialism and its degraded social trash they brought to us..we marry tenage girls here ppl…we are happy with it,they are happy with it i never heard anyone complaining..so please respect other ppl culture and dont try to impose ur ideas on them.

    1. “the only problem that Africa had and still suffering from is westren colonialism”– (sic)

      Really?

      The only thing that works in Africa is because of western colonialism. If it wasn’t for that, the heart of darkness would still be intact, right? Case in point is the former Rhodesia. And now South Africa is heading that way too.

      No. The problem begins with people like mhajden who believe that child abuse is within their rights, just like uncontrolled breeding without having the means to feed hungry mouths of their creation.

      This is exactly the reason why I reject any aid to Africa.

  21. To reddog333
    Please dont mention violence cause althought we marry young girls..we are big men and i can take u out in a second but that is not what am trying to do..i am trying to convince u with logic and hope ur media poisoned mind understand.i dont get what does(put ur money where ur moth )mean so am gonna ignore it..what does militery being infiltrated by forigners have to do with ur teenagers being morally degraded..and u r wrong that problem doesnt exist in any socity it exist only in ur socity because u think they shouldnt get married untill ur stupid 18 that is why they go and have sex outside marriage and get pregnant anyway..i dont want an inoccent defensless person to abuse…i want an innocent defensless female who loves me to protect and love and support even if she was 13 or 14..thats a thing u will never understand…all ur HIV garbage is i irrelevant so i am not going to comment on it.

  22. To Hill
    i dont have to show u anything u know why?because there is a jurisprudential say that states(the one who claims a thing has to provide proof and evidence) i dont know if am translating it right(english is not my first language)..u claimed that 14 or 15 years old girls are not ready to get marriage..then u should provide scintefic papers to prove that not me,and please dont bother because u will not find such a thing u know why..because they are ready to get married and have sex..unlike ur media is trying to convince u..its all media ppl..wake up before they convince u to marry ur goats

  23. mhajden how do you know I’m a girl? I didn’t say I was you are the one who says you are a big man. Put your money where your mouth is means stop acting like a kiddie and act like an adult not coming here and trying to spread your perversion and habits. What about the military? If you were an Israeli girl it would be easier to get conscripted into an office military job than it is in the United States turning 18 and having to either work at Pizza Hut or get cooerced into prostitution a condition for girls you seem to have no compassion for since you accuse me of creating HIV and AIDS and in so doing prove your ignorance to me and everyone else. Oh my God… I didn’t say 18 is the age minimum for marriage look up the laws on wikipedia along with the incest laws they are there… I am sure that problem exists in any society. Except Israel, China, Lesotho and a few other countries… you claim it is only in my country you don’t know where I am and it doesn’t matter but I am right and if you train for your position when you are young you will be prepared better for your life. You want somebody who is defenseless? If I were you… I would say innocent yes but we never want someone who is defenseless. There are people in the world who want to hurt you no matter who you are and what you do. What you have done is convince me you are probably a teenager and don’t have any idea what you’re getting yourself into. Try backing up your position with Quran and hadeeth. You can’t because if you could you would have done it already. You are sadistic in your nature and I am sure if you could take me out in a second that you would because you are trying to play me and I don’t buy your attitude of being a gentle person when we all know what you are and what you wanna do. You want to look for kiddies go to the local playground and forget taking me out. You want to take me out how do you want to do that. You cannot do it. You are wasting time.

  24. reddog333..i am not trying to do anything of that..am just trying to defend prophet Mohamed in the first place because u ignorants accused him of being a pedophile for marrying Aisha when she was little.. and i confess that am failing to convince u how natural is that…1400 years ago when prophet Muhamed lived a person was considered lucky to live past 40 years old..they married very young and got pregnant very young..and this is still the case in part of this world..it is NATURAL.

  25. That is okay. But if you make these kind of statements keep in mind that many of us have had it up to here with the other statements made by sheiks such as we created HIV meaning any of us in the West created HIV and that is wrong. Treating people who are weaker than you like slaves and accusing them of something they have no control over is not going to make anyone believe you and if you want to win a debate you have to convince that your point of view is the right one. When what the arabs say and what they do are two different things that take advantage of innocent people how are you going to gain converts or train anyone the right way? You cannot by acting that way. Do you even know what the five pillars of Islam are? Isn’t one of them the Hajj? How are you going to go the Hajj or the Umrah when you are afraid of prostitution going on there? Is your answer because you are a big guy you are not afraid so you have no problem but it’s fine for girls to be forced into prostitution in Saudi Arabia? What about the point of the article that some girls are being persuaded into temporary marriages that are just another form of prostitution anyway? Do you have a way to fix it? What if I told you all Pakistanis are worthless because they created HIV? What is there to like about Afghanistan? Does that make you feel stupid? You cannot make anyone feel more secure based on your rambling unless you are secure. Get a gun and go to a range and learn to shoot it. Get your head out of the crack of your ass and wash your ass.

  26. sheikyermami
    I cant argue with u that Africa is way behind when it comes to civilization,infrastructure and technology..but socially Africa is a thousand time better than the west,u cant be more wrong when usay that everything that works is because of westren colonisation..because the best and most advanced citiesand socities of africa are those who have never been colonized…go visit Addis Ababa and u will know what am talking about…what u call child abuse(which is teenage marriage) is a normal thing in some socities and u westren have to respect that..and stop playing heros and interfer with other cultures business..we didnt come to u and asked u to stop horrible things u do like gay marriage..we dont judge ppl so stop doing that.
    uncontrolled breeding is indeed one of Africas problems..and only god feeds hungry mouths..thank god they dont depend on the aid of ppl like u..who claims to have mercy on young ppl only by words but when it somes to cost him a dime he refuses to aid them because they are uncontrollably breeded.

  27. sheikyermami
    I cant argue with u that Africa is way behind when it comes to civilization,infrastructure

    and technology..but socially Africa is a thousand time better than the west,u cant be more

    wrong when usay that everything that works is because of westren colonisation..because the

    best and most advanced citiesand socities of africa are those who have never been

    colonized…go visit Addis Ababa and u will know what am talking about…what u call child

    abuse(which is teenage marriage) is a normal thing in some socities and u westren have to

    respect that..and stop playing heros and interfer with other cultures business..we didnt

    come to u and asked u to stop horrible things u do like gay marriage..we dont judge ppl so

    stop doing that.
    uncontrolled breeding is indeed one of Africas problems..and only god feeds hungry

    mouths..thank god they dont depend on the aid of ppl like u..who claims to have mercy on

    young ppl only by words but when it somes to cost him a dime he refuses to aid them because

    they are uncontrollably breeded.

    1. “socially Africa is a thousand time better than the west”

      Good for you. Stay there and make it even better.

      “teenage marriage is a normal thing in some socities and u westren have to respect that.”

      No. We don’t have to respect that at all. You can do that in your neck of the woods, but if you do it in our countries then it makes you a criminal and you should be imprisoned and deported.

      “uncontrolled breeding is indeed one of Africas problems..and only god feeds hungry mouths..”

      You insist on practicing polygamy and child-marriage and expect us to feed you. We are not God and we have no business rewarding you for being irresponsible.

      I’m totally against any aid for Africa.

  28. sheikyermami
    “No. We don’t have to respect that at all. You can do that in your neck of the woods, but if you do it in our countries then it makes you a criminal and you should be imprisoned and deported.”

    and if u come here and practice ur faggot gay things here u will not be imprisoned and deported..u will be stoned to death,and belive me that is real and written in the constitution..they will put u in a public sqaure and all ppl watching u and law men will bring stones and throw them at your head u and ur faggot partener untill u are both dead…can u beilve that crutial planety..and u know what ,u will be deserving it and no one will have mercy for u and ppl will cheer for policemen for doing that and then u wish u had married a 15 years old girl and kept urself natural.
    noone is expecting u to feed us..just leave us alone dont interfer with our buisness and dont insult our prophet.
    sheikyermami u r a pathetic racist person and u should reevaluate the way u look at things and stop hating everyone.

    1. You don’t even know what race I am, mujahedeen!

      I have no problem with you stoning homosexuals, as long as you do it in Timbuktu or wherever you are. Make sure you stay civilized, lol!

      “Racist?” Hahahahaha!

      Try that with Robert Mugabe or with the blacks in South Africa who are murdering the whites in their thousands.

      Just make sure you are able to feed your offspring and don’t wait for me to pay for it!

      Ah, one more thing:

      Muhammad, the profit of Islam, was called “a white man”

      He didn’t think highly of blacks. Here’s a hadith I came across recently:

      Hadith no. 38 of Tirmidhi

      “Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: Allah created Adam when He had to create him and He struck his right shoulder and there emitted from it white offspring as if they were white ants. He struck his left shoulder and there emitted from it THE BLACK OFFSPRINGS as if they were charcoal. He then said (to those who had been emitted) from the right (shoulder): For Paradise and I do not mind. Then He said to those (who had been emitted) from his left shoulder: They are for HELL and I do not mind”.

  29. Mhadjen,
    you are an diot. let us analyse…..

    >You said that i dont understand the west and i want to assure u that i lived >their for a long time and i do understand it very very well.

    You may have lived in the west but you have not understood it. This much is clear from your dribble you have written.

    >.u said that the >west is suprior in every aspect,i agree with u that the west >is superior in some aspects regarding technology and scince but when it >comes to social life they are way behindand twisted,when u said that u r not >a victim of media i almost fell out of my chair laughting.

    Firstly it is at least useful that you are sufficiently competent to sit in a chair Lets look at examples African social superiority!!!!
    1. tribal sensitivities results in the massacres of Rwanda,
    2. muslim tribesment commit massacre after massacre in Sudan on the basis
    of tribal membership.
    3. Explosion of AIDs in many African countries.
    4. Massive over population causing massive faminie.
    5. Treatment of Bushmen by other tribal groups in S. Africa
    6. Numererous civil wars in Central Africa fed by the inability of different tribal groups to coexist together.

    These 6 example are strong signs that show African socliety has many significant problems that are not found in the West. Yes, the West has problems, but we solve them. Idiots like you however, solve nothing because you are usually to stupid or arrogant to even acknowledge that you have problems,

    >.isnt the media that convinced u of gay marriage and now westren media is >promoting it all over the world after they are done with u.

    Now you show us just how little you understood of the west. The media simply reported on the outcome of lobby groups who represented the Gay movement. The decision to grant them marriage rights is grounded in legal precedent for couples and it therefore binding by law (in this case advanced law that considers all aspects of a case and the interplay between possible judgements and society . this is something that your primitive and backward sharia cannot do). Many people disagree on religious grounds and the right to marriage is not granted universally in the west. Actually, progressive institutions have also recognised that same sex couples are a reality and have included these people within their definitoin of a “union under god”. islam is of course a backwards and violent religion, and cannot follow suit. It is amusing that muslims like you spit against gay people when muslims are probably the most active proponents of homosexual activity die to their repressive treatment of women. It seems that muslims wish to trick themselves into believing that they are special by destroying the massive amount of evidence that shows they are not.

    >.being intelligent adoesnt mean u r not going tobe a victim of media cause i >can assure u they smarter than u..
    I am quite able to hold my own wrt to the media , however you are a moron and you cannot be expected to be able to analyse the various sources of news in the West. That you cannot is also patently obvious from your poor skills in logic and your rather abysmal knowledge of English, given that you claim to have lived in the West for some time – amusing.

    >i will raise above all the name callings and go to the point where u said that >a major conflict is going to happent..wake up ppl..the major conflict had >already begun and u r wrong if u think it is going tobe a conflict of missiles >and tanks..it its an intellectual conflict and it is very obvious who is winning.

    I did not specify what form the conflict has taken – and we are well aware of its nature – and certainly more aware that you. You are not winning – as the intellectual content of your pathetic messages demonstrate you certainly cannot complete against us on an intellectual basis, and that is possibly why you muslims use violence so readily. However, the conflict WILL become violent (largely because muslims cannot sustain any intellectual content in their arguments for islam – saying that a book is the word of a god is an argument of faith that cannot be formally proved by definition at the present time – and faith is NOT intellectual content). You muslims have started this conflict and you will dissappear due to it.

    >You said that i represent the problem that africa has…the only problem >that Africa had and still suffering from is westren colonialism and its >degraded social trash they brought to us..we marry tenage girls here >ppl…we are happy with it,they are happy with it i never heard anyone >complaining..so please respect other ppl culture and dont try to impose ur >> deas on them.

    Western colonialism finished over a century ago – your inability to solve your problems is due simply to your failed society, your inability to put aside old modes of behavior, and morons like you are largely responsible. The issue is far deeper than the marriage of teenage girls – including the abuse of underage boys and girls by scum such as yourself – the issue is about the abuse and enslavement of a large poorly educated population by a group of violent thugs acting in the name of a violent rapist and murderer under the flag of a pseudo-religion called islam. You and your kind have done so much damage to Africa that you cannot be forgiven. The truth is eventually known by all: we know what you are but we are patient with you (a mistake by us I believe), giving you time to become human, however do not expect the same from Africans when they realize what you and your poisonoous group of islamic thugs have been doing to them and their country. .

    Finallly, you stupid git, the comment here on these pages is about the detrimental influence of islam into every area it has been brought. It retards culture, retards progress, and reverts societies back into models of a primitive arab desert society govererned by a rapist and murderer. Please explain why commenting negatively on this abysmal fraud of a religion is racist. No one here cares what color your skin is or whar shape your eyes are. If you want to see racism in action have a look at Rwanda in the recent past, or the actions of muslims now in Nigeria. I am very annoyed that pathetic idiots like you abuse the term racist so openly, and the reason it seems is because the true racists are scum like you. I do not know who gave a doctorate, but from your writing you are quite undeserving of such a title. Amusing that we are called racists by parasites like you when we have opened our doors to all – the same cannot be said for you.

  30. Sheikyermami and Kaw..i fully red your posts and understood them..and i will back to tell u my opinion tonight after am done with my patients

  31. @kaw August 13, 2012 at 6:20 am

    Well said, old man, well said.

    @mhajden

    Twist and lie. Twist the truth and lie.

    All you are doing is repeating my own statement back to me. You could have tried even a little to make the effort at an original thought.

    Again, I will repeat myself, as reddog333 said, previously; “Put up or shut up.”

    If you come back here a third time only spewing hyperbole and ad hominem attacks without any medical proof to back up your perverted belief system all you will be is a another dishonest Muslim clinging to a perverted, molesting and sadistic religion.

    Your weak attempt at a deflection does not work and only reflects your own inability to support the belief system that YOU came on here spewing. You should know right away, where to find the medical data that supports your own argument, clearly your not a scholar.

    We are not in a court of law, thus jurisprudence is irrelevant here. It does not fall upon me to provide evidence of truth to support my argument. For the record, in a Western court a law the oneness would fall upon YOU as you were the one to bring the (argument) case. Then I, would need to supply (data) evidence in a rebuttal to you.

    Now, if you want to play Western court, I’ll show you mine, if you show me yours. But, I am not going to jump for you because you are unable to prove your own argument.

    Like all religious fanatics you are starting to become a repetitive bore.

  32. To sheikyermami
    You are as racist as Mugabi and all black ppl who kill white ppl..u hate ppl for the color of thier skin and because they have diffrent culture..i agree that Mugabi and most african presednts are racist killers but they dont represent my point..they are not Muslims they are Christians and they inherited their bad ethics from thier masters in the west.
    regarding the Hadith u mentioned..belive me sheikyermami..i studied hadith since i was six years old,we were tought hadith in elementry,intermidiate and hight school and also at colleage..i never in my life heard of this Hadith u mentioned above..it is a(Fabricated) Hadith and they are thousands.there is a website i wish u and all members of this site visit it is for checking if Hadiths mentioned by calumniators like u are true or not (www.dorar.net )just copy and paste ur so called Hadith in the search engine of the site and see..meanwhile i will provide u with true documented Hadiths for Prophet Muhamed said more than 1400 years ago to educate racist ppl like u.

    1-You should know that no Arab is superior over a non-Arab and, no non-Arab is superior over any Arab, no white is superior over black and no black is superior over white. Superiority is by righteousness and God-fearing [alone]. (Ibn Hanbal, Musnad, 411)

    2-You are sons of Adam and Adam was created from clay. (Tirmidhi, Tafsir, 49; Manaqib, 73; Abu Dawud, Adab, 111)

    3-Whosoever kills his slave: he shall be killed. Whosoever imprisons his slave and starves him, he shall be imprisoned and starved himself, and whosoever castrates his slave shall himself be castrated. (Abu Dawud, Diyat, 70; Tirmidhi, Diyat, 17; Al-Nasa’i, Qasama, 10, 16)

  33. to Kaw
    “You may have lived in the west but you have not understood it. This much is clear from

    your dribble you have written.”

    Again i will assure u that u completely understand westren culture more than u think.

    “Firstly it is at least useful that you are sufficiently competent to sit in a chair Lets

    look at examples African social superiority!!!!
    1. tribal sensitivities results in the massacres of Rwanda,
    2. muslim tribesment commit massacre after massacre in Sudan on the basis
    of tribal membership.
    3. Explosion of AIDs in many African countries.
    4. Massive over population causing massive faminie.
    5. Treatment of Bushmen by other tribal groups in S. Africa
    6. Numererous civil wars in Central Africa fed by the inability of different tribal groups

    to coexist together.”

    Again to assure u…i am very competent to sit in a chair just as u..and all the six points

    u mentioned dosnt make the west socially superior on Africa..because for every point u

    brought i can show u 10 time bigger one in the west..u r talking about tribal massacares in

    Rawanda..please dont make me laught what is that comparing with the tow world wars u

    ignated in the west and claimed tens of miilions of lives..in rawanda 2 million killed in

    tribal war..can u tell me how many million were killed in the war between Hitler tribe and

    Winston Churchill tribe.if u allow me to call the tribes despite their fancy suites and

    ties.
    u are talking about masacare in Sudan?are u sure they are bigger that ur masacares in Iraq

    and Afganistan and before them Vietnam?
    what kind of human through a nuclear bomb on tow cities killing hundreds of thousands in

    minutes..didnt u westren do that?and yet u come and talk about masacares..honestly i find

    that starnge.
    HIV is widley spread in Africa..but not in Muslim africa..HIV is only spread in african

    countries that follow westren cultures with their degraded morals..please name one Muslim

    dominated african country with an HIV problem..go to wikipedia and check please.
    Regarding the Bushman problem and honestly this the first time i hear about it..i can name

    u tens of minorities treated waaaaaaaay worse than bushman in the west from the begining of

    ur history (red indians) to the end of it (african americans).
    Numerous wars in central africa because tribes cant coexist..that ended tens of years

    ago..u r living in history..and am sure we are more capable of coexisting that Hitler

    Churchil and Stalin.

    “Now you show us just how little you understood of the west. The media simply reported on

    the outcome of lobby groups who represented the Gay movement. ”

    Really? u cant deny that westren media has been promoting gayness and preparing ur weak

    minds to receive the movements of these lobbies more than 10 years ago…and before that

    time noone of them would dare to stand up and say i am a man and i want to marry a man.
    if u follow the westren tv shows for the last 10 years u will find the biggist show with

    the biggest number of fans all promoting homosexuality and here are some examples
    -greys anatomy
    -Brothers and sisters
    -modern family
    Shonda Rhimes the creator of Greys Anatomy was in Times magazine list of the top 100 people

    that affected westren mentality by promoting homosexuality and gay marriage among her tv

    show characters..and now when ur weak and stupid minds are ready they announce themselvs

    and shallow ppl like u Kaw come here and defend them …dont pretend to be

    intelligentmister..they fooled u..they convinced u.. they are smarter than u..they made u

    belive its a crime to marry a 15 years old girl but its ok to marry a man like u.

    “The issue is far deeper than the marriage of teenage girls – including the abuse of

    underage boys and girls by scum such as yourself – the issue is about the abuse and

    enslavement of a large poorly educated population by a group of violent thugs acting in the

    name of a violent rapist and murderer under the flag of a pseudo-religion called islam”

    i categorly deny these false accusations..we dont abuse underage boys and girls..we are not

    rapists and we have severe punishments for ppl who do that so please try to differntiate

    between marrying what u consider anunderage girls and having decent familis with them and

    molesting young boys and girls.

    “Finallly, you stupid git, the comment here on these pages is about the detrimental influence of islam into every area it has been brought. It retards culture, retards progress, and reverts societies back into models of a primitive arab desert society govererned by a rapist and murderer”

    if that is true can u explain to me why Islam is conisdred to be the fastest growing and the most domenant religion in world?(check UNESCO sit) can u explain to my why thousands of ppl convirt to islam every month?or u r going to deny these facts also.

  34. to Hill

    So u want proof for what i am saying..ok i will give u proof,i will tell u my story with my wife.
    I met her when she was 15 years old and i was in my mid twenties. she fell in love with me and i fell in love with her..i talked to her someday and told her that i wanted to marry her..she told me to ask her hand from her family and i did that..they accepted and we got married.
    she gave me 3 healthy beautiful children..she didnt suffer from any of these complications u ppl talk about and now she is about 20 years old a healthy young woman studying law.rasing healthy 3 smart children..i supported her with her education and she supported me..i owe her everything.last night i told her about this debate and she said..thank god we wasnt living in some place where a westren moran would come to us and tell us that its a crime to marry eachothers.
    u think my case is special and cant generalize it?then i will tell u stories of my cousins and neighbours if u want..no one had any complications no one died giving birth.
    now u give me proof that teenage marriage is medically dangerous..hope u can find something.

  35. sheikyermami..i sent tow posts responding to ur post and kaw’s post but they dont appear…what could be the problem?

  36. To sheikyermami
    You are as racist as Mugabi and all black ppl who kill white ppl..u hate ppl for the color

    of thier skin and because they have diffrent culture..i agree that Mugabi and most african

    presednts are racist killers but they dont represent my point..they are not Muslims they

    are Christians and they inherited their bad ethics from thier masters in the west.
    regarding the Hadith u mentioned..belive me sheikyermami..i studied hadith since i was six

    years old,we were tought hadith in elementry,intermidiate and hight school and also at

    colleage..i never in my life heard of this Hadith u mentioned above..it is a(Fabricated)

    Hadith and they are thousands.there is a website i wish u and all members of this site

    visit it is for checking if Hadiths mentioned by calumniators like u are true or not

    (www.dorar.net )just copy and paste ur so called Hadith in the search engine of the site

    and see..meanwhile i will provide u with true documented Hadiths for Prophet Muhamed said

    more than 1400 years ago to educate racist ppl like u.

    1-You should know that no Arab is superior over a non-Arab and, no non-Arab is superior

    over any Arab, no white is superior over black and no black is superior over white.

    Superiority is by righteousness and God-fearing [alone]. (Ibn Hanbal, Musnad, 411)

    2-You are sons of Adam and Adam was created from clay. (Tirmidhi, Tafsir, 49; Manaqib, 73;

    Abu Dawud, Adab, 111)

    3-Whosoever kills his slave: he shall be killed. Whosoever imprisons his slave and starves

    him, he shall be imprisoned and starved himself, and whosoever castrates his slave shall

    himself be castrated. (Abu Dawud, Diyat, 70; Tirmidhi, Diyat, 17; Al-Nasa’i, Qasama, 10,

    16)

    1. Arab Superiority

      My dear mhajden,

      No doubt there are many “fabricated” hadith. The whole religion of Islam is indeed a very evil, fabricated ideology. However, the proof is in the pudding, and if you ever lived in an Arab country (I have) you would know that blacks are at the very bottom and known as Abed, or Abt; wjich means slave. You can delude yourself and deny it; but it is still the truth.

      I think you are full of inferior complexes, and that’s why you insist on calling me names like ‘racist’. I don’t kill people like Mugabe and I don’t reject people because of colour. But I reject pedophiles like you who think it is their right to breed any amount of children without the means to feed them.

      Here, some more ‘fabricated hadiths”:

      Arabs are the most noble people in lineage, the most prominent, and the best in deeds. We were the first to respond to the call of the Prophet. We are Allah’s helpers and the viziers of His Messenger. We fight people until they believe in Allah. He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in Allah’s Cause. Killing him is a small matter to us.
      Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 69

      “A man married a maid-slave who bore him a child. Would that child be free or would he be an owned slave?” “Her child whom she bore from him would be the property of her master according to all the Imams (heads of the four Islamic schools of law) because the child follows the (status) of his mother in freedom or slavery. If the child is not of the race of Arabs, then he is definitely an owned slave according to the scholars, but the scholars disputed (his status) among themselves if he was from the Arabs – whether he must be enslaved or not because when A’isha (Muhammad’s wife) had a maid-slave who was an Arab, Muhammad said to A’isha, `Set this maid free because she is from the children of Ishmael.'”
      Ibn Timiyya, Vol. 31, pp. 376-377
      Ali Ibn Abi Talib, said: Verily the Prophet said: God divided the earth in two halves and placed (me) in the better of the two, then He divided the half in three parts, and I was in the best of them, then He chose the Arabs from among the people, then He chose the Quraysh from among the Arabs, then He chose the children of ‘Abd al-Muttalib from among the Banu Hashim, then he chose me from among the children of ‘Abd al-Muttalib, and from them he chose me.[1]
      Ibn Sa’d, Vol. 1, p. 12
      [edit]Inter-Arab Racism

      [edit]Superiority of One Tribe Over Another
      Narrated Jabir bin Samura: I heard the Prophet saying, “There will be twelve Muslim rulers (who will rule all the Islamic world).” He then said a sentence which I did not hear. My father said, “All of them (those rulers) will be from Quraish.”
      Sahih Bukhari 9:89:329
      [edit]Racism Against Infidel Arab Tribes
      The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Messenger: But Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise.
      Qur’an 9:97
      [edit]Racism Against Black People

      Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah’s Apostle said, “You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin.”
      Sahih Bukhari 9:89:256
      Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, “Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief.”
      Sahih Bukhari 1:11:662
      Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said to Abu-Dhar, “Listen and obey (your chief) even if he is an Ethiopian with a head like a raisin.”
      Sahih Bukhari 1:11:664
      Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man)
      Sahih Muslim 10:3901
      ‘Ubaidullah b. Abu Rafi’, the freed slave of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), said: When Haruria (the Khwarij) set out and as he was with ‘Ali b. Abu Talib (Allah be pleased with him) they said,” There is no command but that of Allah.” Upon this ‘Ali said: The statement is true but it is intentionally applied (to support) a wrong (cause). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him described their characteristics and I found these characteristics in them. They state the truth with their tongue, but it does not go beyond this part of their bodies (and the narrator pointed towards his throat). The most hateful among the creation of Allah us one black man among them (Khwarij). One of his hand is like the teat of a goat or the nipple of the breast. When ‘Ali b. Abu Talib (Allah be pleased with him) killed them, he said: Search (for his dead body). They searched for him, but they did not find it (his dead body). Upon this he said: Go (and search for him). By Allah, neither I have spoken a lie nor has the lie been spoken to me. ‘Ali said this twice and thrice. They then found him (the dead body) in a rain. They brought (his dead) body till they placed it before him (Hadrat ‘Ali). ‘Ubaidullah said: And, I was present at (that place) when this happened and when ‘Ali said about them. A person narrated to me from Ibn Hanain that he said: I saw that black man.
      Sahih Muslim 5:2334
      Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks.
      Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 11, p. 11
      Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham’s descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem’s, the latter would enslave them.
      Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 21, p. 21
      A man of B. al-‘Ajilan told me that he was told that Gabriel came to the apostle and said, ‘There comes to sit with you a black man with long flowing hair, ruddy cheeks, and inflamed eyes like two copper pots. His heart is more gross than a donkey’s; he carries your words to the hypocrites, so beware of him.’ This, so they say, was the description of Nabtal.[2]
      Ishaq:243
      “I have heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal.’ He was a sturdy black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks. He used to come and talk with the Prophet and listen to him. He would carry what he had said to the hypocrites. Nabtal said, ‘Muhammad is all ears. If anyone tells him something he believes it.’ Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet and say that he is all ears, say, ‘Good ears for you.’ For those who annoy the Apostle there is a painful punishment.”[2]
      Ishaq:243
      It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent.
      Ishaq:450
      The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and the Muslims replied, ‘Allah destroy your sight, you impious rascals.’
      Ishaq:374
      “Abu Darda reported that the Holy Prophet said: Allah created Adam when he created him (sic). Then He stroke (sic) his right shoulder and took out a white race as if they were seeds, and He stroke (sic) his left shoulder and took out a black race as if they were coals. Then He said to those who were in his right side: Towards paradise and I don’t care. He said to those who were on his left shoulder: Towards Hell and I don’t care. – Ahmad”
      Mishkat, Vol. 3, p. 117
      Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed.
      Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Qadi ‘Iyad, p.375
      “Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham’s descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem’s, the latter would enslave them.”
      Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 21, p. 21
      “Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks.”
      Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 11, p. 11
      Narrated ‘Abdullah: The Prophet said, “I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai’a, i.e., Al-Juhfa. I interpreted that as a symbol of epidemic of Medina being transferred to that place (Al-Juhfa).”
      Sahih Bukhari 9:87:161
      Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar: concerning the dream of the Prophet in Medina: The Prophet said, “I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai’a. I interpreted that as (a symbol of) the epidemic of Medina being transferred to Mahai’a, namely, Al-Juhfa.”
      Sahih Bukhari 9:87:162
      Narrated Salim’s father: The Prophet said, “I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling in Mahai’a. I interpreted that as (a symbol of) epidemic of Medina being transferred to Mahai’a, namely, Al-Juhfa.”
      Sahih Bukhari 9:87:163
      Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man)
      Sahih Muslim 10:3901
      [edit]Negative Attitudes against Black Color

      Abu Dharr reported: The Messenger of ‘Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When any one of you stands for prayer and there is a thing before him equal to the back of the saddle that covers him and in case there is not before him (a thing) equal to the back of the saddle, his prayer would be cut off by (passing of an) ass, woman, and black Dog. I said: O Abu Dharr, what feature is there in a black dog which distinguish it from the red dog and the yellow dog? He said: O, son of my brother, I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as you are asking me, and he said: The black dog is a devil.
      Sahih Muslim 4:1032
      And on the day of resurrection you shall see those who lied against Allah; their faces shall be blackened. Is there not in hell an abode for the proud?
      Qur’an 39:60
      The day will come when some faces will be brightened (lightened) (with joy), while other faces will be darkened (with misery). As for those whose faces are darkened, they will be asked, “Did you not disbelieve after believing? Therefore, suffer the retribution for your disbelief.” As for those whose faces are brightened (lightened), they will rejoice in GOD’s mercy; they abide therein forever.
      Qur’an 3:106-107
      [edit]Islamic Writers and Scholars on Black People

      Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406) was, among other things, an Islamic jurist, Islamic lawyer, Islamic scholar, Islamic theologian, and hafiz
      “Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”[3]
      Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah, 14th century
      “beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings.”[3]
      Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah
      Ibn Sina or Avicenna (980-1037), was, among other things, a Hafiz, Islamic psychologist, Islamic scholar, and Islamic theologian
      [Blacks are] people who are by their very nature slaves.[4]
      Quoted in “Blasphemy Before God: The Darkness of Racism In Muslim Culture” by Adam Misbah aI-Haqq
      Ibn Qutaybah (828-889), was a renowned Islamic scholar from Kufa, Iraq
      “[Blacks] are ugly and misshapen, because they live in a hot country.”[3]
      Ibn Qutaybah (828-889)
      Nasīr al-Dīn al-Tūsī (1201-1274), was a Shia Muslim Scholar and Grand Ayatollah
      “If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth -in no other peculiarity or property – except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent.”[3]
      Nasir al-Din al-Tusi, Tasawwurat (Rawdat al-taslim):
      [The Zanj (African) differ from animals only in that] their two hands are lifted above the ground,… Many have observed that the ape is more teachable and more intelligent than the Zanj.[4]
      Al-Muqaddasi (945/946-1000) was a medieval Muslim geographer
      “Of the neighbors of the Bujja, Maqdisi had heard that “there is no marriage among them; the child does not know his father, and they eat people — but God knows best. As for the Zanj, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence.”[3]
      Al-Muqaddasi (fl. 966), Kitab al-Bad’ wah-tarikh, vol.4
      Al-Masudi (896-956), was a Muslim historian and geographer, known as the “Herodotus of the Arabs.”[5]
      “Galen says that merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain, whence also the weakness of his intelligence.”[3]
      Al-Masudi, Muruj al-dhahab
      Ibn al-Faqih was a Muslim historian and geographer
      “A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq … do not come out with something between blonde, buff and blanched coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of similar light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burned, so that the child comes out something between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the Zanj, the Somali, and other blacks who resemble them. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two.”[3]
      Ibn al-Faqih al-Hamadani, Mukhtasar Kitab al-Buldan, 903 AD
      Abu Rayhan al-Biruni (973-1048), was an Islamic scholar and polymath
      “The Zanj are so uncivilized that they have no notion of a natural death. If a man dies a natural death, they think he was poisoned. Every death is suspicious with them, if a man has not been killed by a weapon.”[3]
      Abu Rayhan al-Biruni, India, 1030 AD
      Hudud al-`Alam is a book dedicated to Abu l-Ḥārith Muḥammad b. Aḥmad, a ruler of the local Farighunid dynasty.
      “Their [Zanj] nature is that of wild animals. They are extremely black.” “Among themselves [the Sudan] there are people who steal each other’s children and sell them to the merchants when the latter arrive.”[3]
      Hudud al-`Alam, 982 AD
      “[inhabitants of sub-Saharan African countries] are people distant from the standards of humanity” “Their nature is that of wild animals…”[3]
      Hudud al-`alam, 982 AD
      “As regards southern countries, all their inhabitants are black on account of the heat of their climate… Most of them go naked… In all their lands and provinces, gold is found…. They are people distant from the standards of humanity.”[3]
      Hudud al-`Alam, 982 AD
      Al Jahiz (781–869), was a famous Muslim scholar
      “Like the crow among mankind are the Zanj [African Blacks] for they are the worst of men and the most vicious of creatures in character and temperament.”[3]
      Jahiz, Kitab al-Hayawan, vol. 2
      “We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of actions.”[3]
      Jahiz, Kitab al-Bukhala (The Book of Misers)
      “They [the Shu`ubiyya] maintain that eloquence is prized by all people at all times – even the Zanj, despite their dimness, their boundless stupidity, their obtuseness, their crude perceptions and their evil dispositions, make long speeches.”[3]
      Jahiz, Al-Bayan wa`l-tabyin, vol. 3
      Ibn Abi Zayd (922–996), was a Maliki scholar from Al-Qayrawan in Tunisia.
      It is disliked to trade in the land of the enemy or the land of the blacks. The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, “Travel is a portion of punishment.”[6]
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  37. “and if you ever lived in an Arab country (I have) you would know that blacks are at the very bottom and known as Abed, or Abt; wjich means slave. You can delude yourself and deny it; but it is still the truth”

    I have indeed lived in an Arab country and i know they call black prople Abed..but u didn’t mention that in Arab countries they only call them names but in the west they hang them in trees and shoot them just for being black.
    The other thing that u western cant differentiate between Arabs and Muslims and u think Muslim=Arab..and u associate bad Arab behavior to Islam…do u know that Arabs represent less than 20% of Muslims? do u know that Arab population is 200 million (and they are not all Muslims) while Muslim population is 1.2 billion..so stop referring to Arabs every time u speak about Islam…and prophet Mohamed emphasized this point himself and made it clear in many occasions that he is the prophet for all mankind not only Arabs.
    u mentioned lots of Hadiths and verses in your pathetic effort to prove that Islam is racist..and I noticed that the major reason for your misunderstanding is your lack of Arabic language knowledge which is the language of Quran and Hadith so let me explain them for u.
    1-the first 3 Hadith u posted are fabricated and prophet Mohamed never said them.
    2”-The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Messenger: But Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise.
    Qur’an 9:97 “
    This is a true verse of Quran but its mistranslated and the right translation is (people who live in the desert are the worst in unbelief..etc)people who live in the desert are called (A’arab) in Arabic language (check Arabic dictionaries) there is a difference between (A’arab) and (arab) A’arab is not a race Arab is a race..Antara Bin Shadad was a very dark black Epesinian poet who lived in the desert and he is called A’arabi in the literature so the right verse is (al A’arab are the worst unbelievers) because they live in the desert and they lack education and they are tough by nature..so ur Racism Against Infidel Arab Tribes is false
    3-“Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah’s Apostle said, “You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin.”
    This a true Hadith but it doest say (Ethiopian) u made me laugh I almost fell out my chair..Ethiopia wasn’t founded yet at that time u ignorant..it says (Epesinian) slave..and epesenian slaves were the lowest slaves in Arab world before Islam comes that’s why prophet Mohamed made them an example so people around him would understand.

    4-i red the rest of Hadiths regarding black ppl..and they are all fabricated and false so am not gonna comment on them.
    5-“The day will come when some faces will be brightened (lightened) (with joy), while other faces will be darkened (with misery). As for those whose faces are darkened, they will be asked, “Did you not disbelieve after believing? Therefore, suffer the retribution for your disbelief.” As for those whose faces are brightened (lightened), they will rejoice in GOD’s mercy; they abide therein forever.
    Qur’an 3:106-107”
    This is a true verse but it couldn’t be more falsely translated..who translates these things for u? Anyways let me tell u something about black white and yellow faces in Arabic language
    Black face=shame and misery
    White face= fear and panic
    Yellow face= sickness
    So it doesn’t mean that people with black faces are in shame or people with white faces are panicking and yellow Asian people are sick..its just a figure of speech for ones emotional status.
    6-i really advice u to revise the translations of these verses and Hadith as they are all mistranslated and manipulated though some of them are true in their origin.

    7-regarding all other socialist and arab characters u mentioned above and all what they say doesn’t represent Islam and they can say whatever they want..Islam is only represented by Quran and Hadith of prophet Mohamed.
    So sheikyermami..in ur false war against Islam the last thing u can describe Islam with is racism..
    A racist is description more suitable for people like you who refuse to help people because of their skin colour and because u think they breed to much…hope u could understand something.

    1. You are writing from Egypt, I should have checked before, my bad.

      “in the west they hang them in trees and shoot them just for being black”

      Really? Last time I checked we had a black Marxist Muslim for president. I would love to see him shot or hanged and I really wonder that no one got around to it yet. I’m still waiting for that hopeychange…..

      As for my “lack of Arabic language” let me tell you that I know far too much to bother to learn even more, because all it is good for is to read the Koran and the hadith, which is utterly useless in todays world. Besides, there are already more than a billion muslims in the world who are being dumbed down with that Arab tosh which may produce suicide bombers, but not much else.

      I accept that the hadith are “all fabricated and false”- just like Islam itself. Its a false and fabricated belief system invented by a 7th century lunatic.

      I have already told you how I feel about people who breed out of control and who use underage females for their perverted sexual gratification.

      I would be an idiot to support this. Rejecting perversion does not make me ‘racist’.

      Racism is something completely different, you better look it up or explain it to your fellow racist Arab muslims who believe they are “the best of peoples”.

  38. “You are writing from Egypt, I should have checked before, my bad”
    i dont know what makes u think that..but this isnt gonna be the only illusion u live in.

    “Last time I checked we had a black Marxist Muslim for president”
    i dont actually know where is that comming from..another illusion maybe.

    “I accept that the hadith are “all fabricated and false”- just like Islam itself. Its a false and fabricated belief system invented by a 7th century lunatic”
    yet its the fastest growing belive on the earth..maybe 1.2 billion ppl are all lunatic and they are waiting for a westren scum bag gay marriage approving like u to set them in the right bath.

    “I have already told you how I feel about people who breed out of control and who use underage females for their perverted sexual gratification.”
    u dont have the right to determine what is overbreeding and what is underbreading..a man can have only one child and still not be able to feed him and he can have 10 children and feed all of them very well..also u dont have the right to determin what is underage and what is proper age..thank god most people in the world dont follow ur sick westren media twisted mentality otherwise human race would be vanished in 10 years.

    “I would be an idiot to support this. Rejecting perversion does not make me ‘racist’”
    u do know very well deep inside u that its not perversion and ur innate instict know that very well but ur Masonic media twisted mind wouldnt let it be.

    “Racism is something completely different, you better look it up or explain it to your fellow racist Arab muslims who believe they are “the best of peoples”

    again u insist to link Arab with Islam.i dont have anything to do with Arabs..alot of them are indeed racists like u and they dont have anything to do with Islam..i explained that to u in the previous post but ur thick mind dont get it.

    1. Its easy to do an ip-address search. You are writing from Egypt, no need to lie about it.

      “Islam is the fastest growing…” cancer yes;

      ….and having a million or a billion lunatics follow it doesn’t make it right or better, its just more of a disaster. Learn to feed yourselves! Without aid from the west you all gonna eat fly shit from the rocks of the pyramids.

      “they are waiting for a westren scum bag gay marriage approving like u to set them in the right bath.”

      Yeah, they need a bath alright.

      Perversion is perversion, and you already confirmed that you are a pervert.

      ‘Nothing to do with Islam”– “out of context” and “you don’t speak Arabic” is topped up by “racist”, makes about as much sense as “say Islam is a religion of peace or we kill you”.

      A primitive belief system from the Arab desert that cannot stand truth. You have just proven it again.

  39. MHadjen
    You actually have written nothing NOTHING in your rebuttal!!! Lets hope that your patients get better treatment than what you have demonstrated in your rather pathetic replies.

    Folks,
    the “debate” with this muslim idiot is very instructive. Note that it cannot think out of context with the quran and this is a very strong indicator of how destructive the process of islamisation is. Mhadjen has basically demonstrated a very low IQ, and the surprising thing is that we have probably trained this moron. This is a black mark on our books. We should not be assisting these parasites in any form!!!!

  40. @mhajden

    Your obfuscating, like a good Muslim.

    I am not interested in stories or hearsay. Facts.

    Respected medical sources was the agreement.

    As a alleged medical practitioner, you should not only be aware of them, but how to access them.

    Since, you really are starting to become a tiresome bore, with no solid evidence of substance, I am losing interest.

    Real doctors know that when a young teenage GIRL gives birth there are three primary risk for the baby.

    1.) Nutrition.
    2.) Placenta Previa – not develop as it does in fully developed older mothers.
    3.) Premature babies

    Furthermore, RE: Mortality and Teen Pregnancy

    “very high maternal mortality rate is early marriage and pregnancy, often a result of poverty and cultural imperatives. More than one third of women aged 20 to 24 years have been married or were in union before age 18. In Malawi and Mozambique, the rate is above 50 percent. Girls under 18 are more likely to die during pregnancy and childbirth than women in their twenties. THIS RISK IS FIVE TIMES HIGHER FOR GIRLS YOUNGER THEN 15 YEARS.”

    -http://www.unicef.org/esaro/7310_Gender_and_health.html

  41. sheikyermami
    why do u hide my posts..bcause u didnt like my logic?wher is the freedom of openion u ppl talk about?or it is only for u.

  42. No mhajden Africa sucks compared to the West. What has Africa done for me. You keep up with your bs. Stop accusing everyone else of creating HIV just to give you a headache. You want to shoot your mouth off I told you that you have no idea but you think you’re so perfect and everyone else is dumb. Yeah maybe you have good food and all the wildlife but your reasoning for blaming shows you are a moron and need to get medication. You are obsessive compulsive and you have borderline personality disorder. Give up.

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