Pat, what is the answer?

“Violence is not the answer”

In the aftermath of the Norwegian atrocity every Tom, Dick & Harry hastens to lecture us that ‘war is not the answer’.

Finland’s Marxist FM calls for seizure of all weapons from private homes, the whole world is now at war with “the far right”,  (that’s code for everyone who opposes his enslavement)  censorship and ‘sensitivity training’ is to replace reason (and our democratic rights) and Islam is here to stay, and to replace us.

So don’t criticize it, lets have some more ‘sensitivity training’ and don’t upset the Muslims… or else!

If violence is not the answer, war is not the answer, WTF is the answer?

Non-violence, non-violence, non-violence:

who does he think he is? Ghandi?

Our enemies have declared perpetual war against us, until all resistance ends and all the people say ‘there is no god but allah and muhammad is his profit’. Every day Muslims murder, terrorize, rape and plunder and we look on how country after country succumbs to these barbarians.

In once great Britain, the police are running from the muslim hordes, and those who resist the global jihad are vilified as hatemongers, racist-bigot-islamophobes and  criminalized. Every media-idiot  in the land  and his political minders  pretend  that reality-defying claims, like ‘Islam is peace’ will keep us safe from the wrath of allah. Resistance is useless, if you resist Islam the police will knock your teeth out. (Tommy Robinson sends his regards).  Don’t do anything that could enrage the muslim hordes, sit back and let them roll over you, what do you think you are: some kind of crusader?

Knowing what we know now, is there anyone out there who believes that this can be resolved peacefully? I don’t.

What did the Ayatollah Khomeini say?

“Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Qur’anic] psalms and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”

The attack on the Norwegian Socialist Indoctrination Camp is deplorable, regrettable and wrongheaded. But anyone who thinks Islamization, cultural Marxism and our enslavement by socialist subversives can be reversed by holding hands and singing kumbaya is a fool.

Frankly, I prefer this:

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.

The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill
English economist & philosopher (1806 – 1873)

And this:

“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”Copy to Clipboard
  —  Winston Churchill

11 thoughts on “Pat, what is the answer?”

  1. Yes, this is pretty weak stuff from Pat Condrell. He might have said something, anything, about self defense in the face of violence. What he was trying to do mostly, I think, was avoid the issue that Breivik didn’t kill Muslims, he killed Norwegians, ethnic and cultural Norwegians. And if had killed Muslims instead, he might have had more sympathizers.

  2. Our god is bigger than yours
    – Allahu akbar!

    Stoltenberg in the mosque today
    – Dear, Everybody «Kjære alle sammen»! “Salam aleikum”!

    Stoltenberg’s speech at the Central Jamaat-E Ahl-E Sunnat mosque in Oslo, word by word, in Norwegian, Friday, 29 July 2011.

    – On the day of the celebration of Christianization of Norway, 29 July 1030, at Stiklestad…!

    Gahr Støre’s speech at Central Jamaat-e Ahl-e Sunnat mosque on 24 August 2007

    Opening of speech
    “Dear audience, friends, brothers and sisters”

    Conclusion of speech
    “I would like to end where I started, about how grateful I am to be here today, at your place. I hope to see you again. At meetings, in my office, or here in the mosque, at a later occasion. I would be happy to come again.”

    Interesting to see this speech looking back, four years after.

    There are regular meetings with muslims at Støre’s office, with members of Islamsk rÃ¥d Norge, Islamic Counsil of Norway, probably sister organization of CAIR daugthers. Islamsk rÃ¥d is still awaiting an answer from Qaradawi, the leader of the European Fatwa Council, as to what their official standpoint should be about homosexuals, whether they should be executed or not. Could take years to get the answer.

    Why, years? Because the Norwegian society needs more preparation for their standpoint, meaning that first they decide, it will have to be a decision which will be valid for years to come? Can’t say ‘no’ now, and then later ‘ yes’?

  3. “The new Norwegian we”
    – Phrase by PM Jens Stoltenberg, speaking to the muslims at Central Jamaat-e Ahl-e Sunnat mosque in Oslo

    “The new Norwegian we” fans of Stoltenberg – outside the mosque after Stoltenberg’s speech!id=42548

  4. The hateful Norway debate

    Op-ed: Massacre debate offers important insights into mindsets of Western societies

    Manfred Gerstenfeld

    The despicable massacres perpetrated by Anders Breivik in Oslo and on the island of Utoya have prompted a chaotic and often ferocious international debate. It covers a considerable number of issues and simultaneously offers important insights into the various mindsets of Western societies.

    To better follow this debate in the future, one has to identify its main initial threads. One is the massive mainstream media attention focusing on Breivik’s writings. Psychiatrists believe that such extensive dissemination of his manifesto could lead to copycat attacks. A second issue is the opinions of psychiatrists and psychologists struggling to comprehend the pathways from political radicalism to murder.

    It was clear that Israel would somehow be drawn into debate on Norway attacks

    A major part of the debate focuses on who bears responsibility for Breivik’s acts, besides himself. Rational arguments only play a minor role here. The debate mainly consists of mudslinging and striving to outshout one’s opponents.

    The attackers in the debate mainly belong to the Left. One of their major themes is that while initially Muslims were accused, the bullets came from the Right. They therefore conclude that the radical and populist Right quoted in Breivik’s writings is partly responsible for his actions.

    Almost all those quoted, however, have strongly condemned Breivik. Populist parties such as Geert Wilders’ PVV in the Netherlands and extreme Right parties such as the Front National in France denounced the murders. Very few figures in parliamentarian parties identified with him.

    Italian Europarliamentarian Mario Borghezio of the separatist Northern League said Breivik’s ideas were very good and Christian Europe must defend itself against Muslim immigration. Minister Calderoli from his party clarified that Borghezio spoke only for himself. A local French politician from the National Front, Jacques Coutela, called Breivik a visionary confronting the rise of Islam in Europe. Coutela was thereafter suspended by his party. Erik Hellsborn, a local politician of the extreme Right Sweden Democrats, blamed multiculturalism for the murders. He removed his blog after he was criticized by the party leader Jimmie Ǻkesson.

    The loudest shout so far comes from US broadcaster Glenn Beck. He stated on his syndicated radio show: “There was a shooting at a political camp which sounds a little like you know, the Hitler youth. I mean who does a camp for youth that’s all about politics?”

    Anti-Semitic elements

    The debate on who shares blame for the acts by the loner Breivik is largely futile. No other violent hatred can compete with the worldview of al-Qaeda, which is shared globally by at least 150 million Muslims. Furthermore, the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Yussuf Al-Qaradawi, supports suicide bombing. And in a number of Muslim countries, political and religious murders are ongoing and numerous. And yet, they do not receive similar attention to the attacks in Norway.

    It would indeed be beneficial if the populist Right were more specific in its claims against Islamic movements, rather than generalizing and exaggerating accusations. The same goes for the Left. If one points a finger at others for Breivik’s acts, why are those who recognize Hamas not considered accessories to Hamas’ genocidal plans?

    Anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli elements are also appearing as secondary threads in this debate. Hezbollah condemned the attack and called it “proof of the racism of Zionist culture.” Khaled Mouammar, the outgoing President of the Canadian Arab Federation, wrote that it looks increasingly that Mossad’s finger prints are all over the Norway killings.” There are also the classic anti-Israel hate bloggers who are promoting conspiracy theories against Israel.

    Meanwhile, Norwegian society is reacting differently than nations elsewhere. There is major confusion, questions about how “one of their own” could be capable of such horrific, “un-Norwegian” acts, as well as observations that Norway will never be the same again. What changes will take place in the Norwegian self-perception and worldview remains unclear.

    One person who already put his foot in his mouth was Norway’s ambassador to Israel. He found it necessary to explain the similarities and differences between the terror attacks executed by Palestinians and Breivik’s acts. This is another Norwegian provocation. The Israeli government has shown great empathy with Norway and so have many Israelis. I would guess that those with Norwegian friends have expressed their condolences to them, as I did.

    The ambassador’s inappropriate statements will not alter the Israeli opinion that terror must be totally condemned. On a radically different level, his words remind us that the AUF, the youth movement of the ruling Labor Party, is an organization of anti-Israeli hate mongers. Their youth camp at Utoya was indoctrinating against Israel. Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere spoke there and said that Israel should demolish the “security barrier.” It was an indirect pro-terror remark.

    Stoere knows well that the fence was erected in response to the many murderous Palestinian attacks against civilians. Pictures of AUF youngsters playing Gaza flotilla “games” on Utoya, and of the poster there calling to boycott Israel, will be reprinted many times in the future.

    Dr. Manfred Gerstenfeld has published 20 books. Two of these address Norwegian anti-Israelism and anti-Semitism

  5. Patrick,
    The pen is mightier than the sword except in a sword fight, you sniveling lily-livered flap dragon..!

    You’re the only one out there with the focus and straight up the guts no nonsense approach needed today…

  6. when i started to be anti islamic, i was completly alone:for years i was surrounded by people who would brook no criticism of islam. pat condel was the first person i heard speak out on islam:he became my hero. later i found lots of heroes and sites expressing my position.if islam conqours our democracies then anders will go down as a terrorist.but if we do conqour islam in our nations, then he will one day go down as a hero. when a muslim commits terrorism against us he gets massive support from his own kind.when one of us commits terrorism, we turn our backs on him: we get scared,we fear our cause is damaged,we say he is not part of us… i am a 70 year old woman; i have been a pacifist for most of my life; i look at the situation today and i ask: if not violence then what?…. we have a situation where our own people, born and bred in democratic culture, serving our hard won democracy on a silver platter to we expect to win against islam without any sacrifices?

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