Time to bring them home!


Pamela Geller:  Thirteen U.S. sailors who died in 1804 during the first Islamic war against America, the First Barbary War, and who were buried in Tripoli, Libya, may come home. Would that not be fitting on the tenth anniversary of 911, the latest Islamic war on America?

John McCain is opposed to returning our war dead to Arlington. First he is shilling for terror TV, Al Jazzeera, to come to America, now this. The man is suffering from his POW experiences.

American Legion Sees Chance To Bring Home Remains Of Sailors Buried In Libya 200 Years Ago Amanda Terkel, The Puff Ho

The First Barbary War (1801–5), also known as the Barbary Coast War or the Tripolitan War, was the first of two wars fought between the United States and the North African Berber Muslimstates known collectively as the Barbary States.

These were the independent Sultanate ofMorocco, Algiers and Tripoli, which were quasi-independent entities nominally belonging to theOttoman Empire (except for Morocco which was always fully independent).

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Here’s an example of what American’s had to put up with then, looks like nothing much has changed since then:

Here’s the report written by Jefferson and Adams to the Continental Congress

“…that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

I’m still not out of hope for a return to the days when diplomacy was mostly PC/MC free, and one could expect to see such reports being made public (the excerpt below is fromthis article):

“…we took off our shoes and entering the cave (for so it seemed), with small apertures of light with iron gates, we were shown to a huge shaggy beast, sitting on his rump upon a low bench covered with a cushion of embroidered velvet, with his hind legs gathered up like a tailor, or a bear. On our approach to him, he reached out his forepaw as if to receive something to eat. Our guide exclaimed, “Kiss the Dey’s hand!” The consul general bowed very elegantly, and kissed it, and we followed his example in succession. The animal seemed at that moment to be in a harmless mode; he grinned several times, but made very little noise. Having performed this ceremony, and standing a few moments in silent agony, we had leave to take our shoes and other p roperty, and leave the den without any other injury than the humility of being obliged in this involuntary manner, to violate the second commandment of God and offend common decency. Can any man believe that this elevated brute has seven kings of Europe, two republics, and a continent tributary to him when his whole naval force is not equal to two line-of-battle ships? It is so.”

 Another little tidbit hardly anyone knows about:

The history of the first war America fought against an Islamic state in the Barbary Wars and the conclusions Jefferson and Adams came to about the nature of Islam should be part of public school curriculum and known to all Americans as part of their heritage and the American Creed. And Hugh Fitzgerald’s brilliant essay should be used for a discussion about Islam and the negative consequences of PC at High School. But that can only happen when PC and short sighted opportunism is no more.

Most readers of JW know the history of the first armed conflict America had with Islam, but may not know how close North America came to be colonized by Muslims a couple of hundred years earlier.

In 1603, the Sultan of Morocco, Ahmad al-Mansur proposed to his English ally Queen Elizabeth I, that England help the Moors colonise America. The Sultan proposed that Moroccan and English troops, using English ships, should together attack the Spanish colonies in America, expel their hated Spanish enemies and then “possesse” the land and keep it “under our (joint) dominion for ever.” There was a catch, however. Might it not be more sensible, suggested the Sultan, that most of the future colonists should be Moroccan rather than English? “Those of your country doe not fynde themselves fitt to endure the extremeties of heat there, where our men endure it very well by reason that heat hurtes them not.”

After due consideration, the Moroccan offer was not taken up. Such a proposal might seem extraordinary today, but at the time it raised few eyebrows. After all, the English were close allies of both the Moroccans and the Ottomans – indeed the Pope regarded Elizabeth as “a confederate of the Turks”. The English might have their reservations about Islam, but these were nothing compared to their fear of “Popery”.

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  1. The Barbary pirates were a menace well into the nineteenth century and although its a relief that we can now relax on the beaches of Cornwall and Devon without fear of abduction by Muslim slavers, I’m afraid to say that the spiritual brethren of the pirates are alive and well in many parts of England. For example, a camera (probably on a mobile phone) captured footage of a woman being knocked to the ground and kicked in the head by a gang of Muslim males as well as a coachload of Englishmen being attacked by missile-throwing Muslims in London last Saturday. How do you think the British police responded? Which of the parties got arrested? That’s right, you’ve guessed it: the entire coach party of Englishmen of course! See videos of the Muslim mob attack on both here: http://durotrigan.blogspot.com/2011/09/muslim-males-attack-defenceless-edl.html

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