Fartwa for Pedophiles: 'Is puberty a prerequisite for marital relations?'

Is puberty a prerequisite for marital relations?  

(source) on a tip from GoV

Question:

al-salam `alaikum,

According to the Shafi’i school is puberty a pre-requisite to intercourse in marriage and how is puberty defined?

JazakAllah khayr.

Answer:

Wa alaykum salam wa rahmatuLlahi wa barakatuHu,

In the Shafi’i School, a girl must mature to an age where she is ready for relations, prior to that it is unlawful. One must note that relations may well harm a girl at a young age; thus, waiting until she is physical and mentally ready is necessary. The possibility of inflicting harm on her must not exist. These two considerations, 1)  the absence of harm and 2) her readiness, are what have been stressed in the Shafi’i School pertaining to when relations are lawful. (See Rawdat al-Talibin v. 7, p. 261; Mughni al-Muhtaj v. 4, p. 373)

And Allah knows best.

Allah may know, but we can’t ask him. We asked the imam and he  does not answer the question. He leaves open the possibility that sex before puberty might be admissible, provided that it does not harm the girl, and that she is “ready”.

But who decides about that ?

Why, Allah, of course. “Allah knows best”.  How convenient… Comment below the fold.

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Note the evil character of the question. I mean, what sort of person even wonders whether it might be admissible to have sex with a girl before she has reached puberty ? And then takes pain to ask the question on a “religious help” site ?

Note also that the questioner asks for a definition of puberty (thus prompting for an answer that it is legitimate to have intercourse with a girl as soon as she has reached puberty), but that the “religious scholar” takes care not to give it to him.

This cannot be but deliberate, considering how fastidious Islam is about micro-managing such details of people’s lives.

Of course, the “scholar” cannot state flatly that sex with a little girl is forbidden, since Mohammad did it. So he has to dance around the issue.

And what’s the result ? Any Muslim reading the answer is entitled to draw the conclusion that yes, sex with a little girl is permissible, sometimes. If he is so inclined.

All in all, a fine example of Islamic hypocrisy and evil.

I took a screenshot just in case they might take it off and deny it afterwards:

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BNI has more:

Another Saudi Cleric issues fatwa saying girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle”

48 thoughts on “Fartwa for Pedophiles: 'Is puberty a prerequisite for marital relations?'”

  1. (video) The Child Bride of Muhammad – 65:4
    Pedophilia in the Qur’an (65:4, the ugliest surah)
    – “Not menstruated yet” (لَمْ يَحِضْنَ)

    http://schnellmann.org/the-child-bride-of-muhammad.html

    … 4) EVIDENCE THAT MUHAMMAD HAD SEX WITH AISHA PRIOR TO HER FIRST MENSES …MORE PHYSICAL DAMAGE TO YOUNG GIRLS

    Modern medicine teaches that a female’s body is not fully developed at age 9. Sexual intercourse at that age could damage a female’s sexual organs. For instance, at the age of 9 years old, the cervix of the female is yet undeveloped, as are many of the child’s sexual organs. Further, intercourse at this age leads to an 80% increased risk in her developing cervical cancer later in life.

    PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE TO YOUNG GIRLS….

  2. “Fartwa for Pedophiles: ‘Is puberty a prerequisite for marital relations?'” I am reminded of an old metaphoric saying, “Just because the plumbing is in, doesn’t mean the house is ready for occupancy.” Puberty and continuing maturation in adolescence takes place over an extended period of time; 10 to 12 years. The latest research on the body and the brain is that a person (ON AVERAGE!) reaches their full maturity at age 25! (Of course, we continue to learn after that.) Sexual relations, before the person is physically and psychologically ready, cause far-reaching and more often than not, irreparable damage.

  3. Pedophile mohammed is in hell. Our 1 true God is through Christ Jesus who said “I and my Father are one.” St.John 10:30 or “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father (God) St.John 14:9

  4. mohammed didn’t want to listen to our 1 true God 10 sensible mutual commandments proven by His begot Son Christ Jesus “love thy neighbor as thyself” to keep his evilest filthy pedophile child sex, polygamy sex, rapekillevidence, rape conquered sex spoils and murdering with a well-known pagan moon god called al-ilah excuse as well, total fraud and lies to do crimes against humanity with false god excuses

  5. Proof islam is manmade false gods/idolatry.
    Google: mecca moon idol al-ilah
    kaaba stone meteorite
    Arabia pedophilia
    Murder-rob-rape the poor in Sudan by evilest filthy pig janjaweed
    Aisha Ibrahim
    janjaweed
    Sana’a manuscripts prove the
    koran was manmade
    Armenia genocide

  6. Google: 2010 Makhayo Matkarimova
    Mullah sodomize
    2003 Nadifa rape
    Saving Face
    Jihad verses
    Nigeria massacre
    Bengali butcher-rape- massacre
    370 million innocents massacred
    screaming “god is great” is
    indisputable proof to abolish false
    god islam completely to save all children
    and civil justice law and order peace and
    give equal rights and freedoms to all
    women like our creator and savior said
    “Ye do err not knowing the scriptures nor
    the power of God but (women) are as the
    angels of God in heaven” is exactly the Lord’s
    Prayer “Our Father which art in heaven,
    hallowed be thy name, THY KINGDOM
    THY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT
    IS IN HEAVEN. Give us this day our daily
    bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we
    forgive those who trespass against us; and
    lead us not into temptation, but deliver us
    from evil: Saint Matthew 6:9-13. I expect
    you reading this are delivered from evil false
    moon god islam to convert to the world’s 1
    TrueGodChristJesus love thy neighbor as
    thyself salvation. Peace be with you.
    Glenville Gerun

  7. islam was made to legalize mohammed’s pedophile child sex of Aleyesa, polygamy sex is all about physical pleasure sex and legalizing murder-plunder-rape the poor-Sudan/Somalia and 40 other countries millions of innocents captured like you brainwashed to believe evil and crimes or death. I pray billions see this and come to eternal resurrection and joy with our 1TrueGodChristJesusEver.

  8. I expect you reading this and all Muslims worldwide to leave evil crescent moon false god islam pedophile murdering cults to Christ Jesus True God ever love thy neighbor as thy self 10 commandments divine and human knowledge like thou shalt not: kill-lie-steal-adultery and give sincere gratitude for the truth each and every Holy Sunday. Peace be with you. Sanaa manuscripts prove the koran manmade. The wise believe the undeniable proven 1 and only Christ Jesus True God, no separation and not even a mystery but your belief is an ascension to eternal life by doing only goodness on earth. Now you have found the way to eternal life is Christ Jesus True God with you now with this sincere call

  9. Is the koran the word of allah? allah says 76:19 sodomy, 56:17, 52:24, 65:4 pedophile all children of the world, 4:34 beat 78:33 full breasted women, 4:3 polygamy sex glutton, 56:36 fantasy paradise is a sex joke; all obviously made by men. Arab mythology pagan kaba moon god archeology proves allah has never existed is the same today. Muslims found the Sanaa manuscripts proven by experts that the koran was man made, words changed and missing on the dome of the rock. In other words all Muslims were lied to. Now you have full proof to come back to real GodJesus miracles, love, freedom, peace and everlasting life in heaven proven by begotten Jesus Christ ascension and Saviour forever and ever. Wise apostates leave man made godless islam onto RealGodJesus the source of life and eternal life. As you are a fact, this writing is a fact is the same for the New Testament Holy Bible “love thy neighbor as thyself 10 Commandment easy to understand facts good for everyone and your salvation as well. You alone shall choose your own fate. Do you choose eternal glorious love, thousands of seen miracles, the self evident word of God, Jesus seen ascension, peace and happiness in heaven proven by Jesus or Saint Luke 16:19-31

  10. Is the koran the word of al-ilah? al-ilah says 76:19 sodomy, 56:17, 52:24, 65:4 pedophile all children of the world, 4:34 beat 78:33 full breasted women, 4:3 polygamy sex glutton, 56:36 fantasy paradise is a sex joke; all obviously made by men.

    1972, Muslims found Sanaa manuscripts prove the koran man made.

    Experts prove koran words were changed.

    Archeology Arab myth pagan moon god allah is the same non existent allah today.

    Why pray to al-ilah that does not exist?
    Jesus said “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father.”
    Jesus said “I am the resurrection and the life.”
    Jesus said “I am the bread of life”
    Jesus said “I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world …” proven by positively seen thousands of miracles St.Luke 6:19 “healed them all, raised the dead, made the blind see, controlled nature, calm the sea, and His seen ascent to heaven is the same to faithful believers.
    Jesus said “Because I live, ye shall live also.”

  11. That picture, published by a Zionist Jew is only showing a parents and their kids to a festival. Not a man and kid wedding. Stop the lies.

  12. Please note the Muslim poster above who blames “Zionist Jews” for Islamic teachings, clearly corroborated by the fartwa in the article above. But no, when it comes to being faced with the fuggly reality, they lie in your face and deny what’s there for all to see in black and white.

  13. Muslims were lied to.
    al-ilah has never existed.

    Truth saves 1.5 billion Muslims onto True GodJesus love, equal rights, equal freedoms and salvation clearly proven by Jesus Christ thousands of miracles “healed them all” SaintLuke 6:19, raised the dead, resurrected and His ascension is the same for faithful believers.

    islam is a denier and infidel cult of RealGodJesus no separation and not even a mystery Holy Trinity Oneness: “that they may be one as we are.” St.John 17:11

    Jesus said “I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: … Saint John 11:25

  14. islam is a denier and infidel cult of the source of life and eternal life TrueGodJesus clear proofs. Choose your future heaven forever or hell forever. True God love is proven by Jesus Christ only.

  15. Your all a bunch of bible bashers look your so angered by your religions that you all lost sight of the issue brought forward.

    Personally Im against child brides it disgusts me it has to be a man made rule because what kind of mother would allow her baby to be raped. Children should be able to play and live free from adult things like this. I would kill anyone if they touched my children like that. I spit on people forcing children to do that cause kids dont want it, theres no way in the world kids would want that so why the hell should we mothers allow men to have a child like that. Arent your kids more important to you than some man getting a young child.

    Gross its disgusting.

  16. And GLENVILLE GERUN shut the fuck up you look so stupid carrying on the way you have. God will judge you and all the judging your doing. Dont blame the people blame those evil ones that have done it and raped little girls and blame the Government that still allows this to happen. Its a gross injustice to humanity but screaming about someones religion isnt going to get shit done. Changing Governments atritudes will change things.

  17. Man made al-ilah.
    Man made koran 76:19, 56:17, 52:24 sodomy, 65:4 pedophilia is all porn.

    In other words, man made islam to get away with murder and filthy sex crimes with a false god excuse.

    Deep thinkers know the al-ilah is non existent.

  18. May our 1TrueGodJesus and The Holy Spirit bless you all. No one comes unto The Father in heaven but through Jesus Christ only.

    Research as I have because hell is forever.
    Research man made filthy sick koran 76:19, 56:17, 52:24 sodomy, 65:4 pedophile all children of the world, 4:34 beat 78:33 full breasted women, 4:3 polygamy sex glutton, 56:36 virgin paradise is a sex joke, all obviously made by men to get away with murder & sex crimes with a false god excuse.

    Research myth pagan moon god al-ilah is the same non existent moon god al-ilah today.

    Research 1972 Muslims found the Sanaa manuscripts prove the koran was made by men, words changed,

    I expect 1.5 billion Muslims to leave false god islam murdering and sex crimes onto 1GodJesus and The Holy Spirit ever love, freedom, peace and life for eternity proven by begotten Son Jesus positively seen thousands of miracles, healed the blind, raised the dead, controlled nature, calm the sea, fed the multitudes and healed them all Saint Luke 6:19, predicted His resurrection & His ascent into heaven is the same for faithful believers.

  19. How can you escape hell? Jesus Christ came from heaven so that you might live forever. Jesus said: I am the light, I am the bread of life, i am the resurrection & the life and much more; and proved it by eye witnessed ascent into Heaven. Do the research & you’ll find Jesus Christ is God Himself, ONE, no separation and not even a mystery, our creator and saviour from heaven; Whom said “O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was” Saint John 17:5 or 17:24 “Father … for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.”

    “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father” Saint John 14:9
    “I and my Father are one.” Saint John 10:30
    “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost … and, lo, I am with you alway …” Saint Matthew 28:19

  20. By the way, islam-koran is not a religion. islam-koran is crimes against humanity with a false god excuse.

    Muslims were lied too. Sanaa-islam-koran are crimes against the worlds 1TrueGodJesusHolySpirit of love-life-10 Covenants of joy forever and ever.

  21. Abolish islam-koran crimes against humanity with the myth moon god al-ilah excuse. No one would miss islam nor mourn it either, with the an opportunity to RealGodJesus love, freedom and salvation proven by Jesus Christ; a reality and fact as you & I. “Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered” Saint Luke 12:7

  22. Primitive social injustice, obscene abuse against women from man made evil koran 4:34 beat women is criminal evidence to abolish it.

    taliban behead children,
    Child brides bleed to death,
    Genital mutilation of girls,
    Daily bombs today everywhere from the koran,
    Kill Muslims and blame everyone else,
    Research Muslim school teacher Nahed Metwalli,
    koran is hate literature must be abolished,
    Research koran 47:4, 9:5 incite hate-murder-bondage,
    Research Armenian holocaust, Sudan atrocities is coming to you and your children soon from backward koran prejudice with the myth pagan non existent al-ilah excuse

  23. “Son, thy sins be forgiven thee” St.Mark 2:5
    But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts. Why doth this man thus speaking blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only? … And immediately he arose (from sick of the palsy in bed), took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.” Saint Mark 2:12. Now you know the way, the truth and life everlasting is only through begotten Son Jesus Christ power of love, miracles is here today & ever with us always.

    “And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven.” Saint Matthew 16:19.

  24. research as I have: The world must stop 76:19, 52:24, 56:17, 65:4 islam with the fake moon god al-ilah excuse.

    The truth will save 1.5 billion Muslims onto TrueGodJesus love, freedom and salvation proven by Jesus from heaven Whom healed 100s of 1000, suffered & died for you & me, rose from the dead, ascended into heaven was seen plainly, is the same for faithful believers; non else.

    In other words, al-ilah has never existed. Research the man made koran 4:34 abuse of women, 9:5 kill, 5:60 pig is nonsense, 47:4 kill bondage on Muslims, 76:19, 65:4 child sex islam are crimes against humanity with the non existent pagan myth moon god al-ilah excuse made be men to get away with murder & sex crimes.

    Muslims are saved by Jesus Christ only.

    Jesus Christ guarantees heaven.

    Ye shall find out eventually.

  25. Google – 1972, Muslims found the truth & freedom when they found the Sanaa manuscripts prove the koran was made by men proves al-ilah has never existed but used by men to get away with 47:4 bondage on Muslims, 4:34 obscene abuse/wickedness against women, sick filthy 76:19, 56:17, 52:24 sodomize boys, filthy sick 65:4 pedophile all the children of the world, all obviously made by men, 56:36 fantasy virgin paradise is a sex joke made by men, proves al-ilah is used by men for evil power, evil sharia controls for filthy sick child sex crimes against defenseless children & women with the fake moon god al-ilah excuse.

  26. The koran/islam doesn’t fool anyone anymore.

    al-ilah HAS NEVER EXISTED

    but used by men to get away with murder, abuse against women and pedophilia.

    Google “76:19 sodomy”

    Google “65:4 child sex”

    Google “islam pedophilia”

    It’s the heaven or hell choice for you.

    Jesus Christ guarantees heaven, proven by his 100s of 1000s of miracles “healed them all” Saint Luke 6:19, resurrected from the crucifixion, ascent into heaven was positively seen by 100s.

    “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father”

    Saint John 14:9

    “I and my Father are one”

    Saint John 10:30

    “… because I live, ye shall live also”

    Saint John 14:19

  27. Manmade Sanaa-koran-islam-Arab made pagan myth al-ilah is the same non existent al-ilah today, saves Muslims unto 1TrueGodJesus “before the world was” – “before the foundation of the world” Saint John 17:5/17:24.

    Infidels made the koran-islam to deny the worlds one true & only universal religion proven by Jesus Christ only. “Before Abraham was I am” Saint John 8:58

    “… Moses wrote of me” Saint John5:46

    Believe in the 10 Commandments “thou shalt not kill” etc, etc, concerning me”indisputable mutual perfect sense Saint Luke 24:44 or you know what the end results will be for eternity.

    Jesus Christ warned of false prophets. It’s your choice heaven or hell.
    Jesus Christ love & freedom guarantees heaven self evident.

    All else is two hells, self evident

  28. Research the clear full proof of RealGodJesus proven love, freedom, truth and salvation from clear full proof of made by men fake god al-ilah to get away with crimes against defenseless women & children.

  29. Create & save is 1TrueGodJesus; NOT islam/koran 47:4 kill Muslim hostages, behead children nor 76:19, 52:24, 56:17, 65:4 child sex.

    Man made koran/islam has no right to exist.

    Abolishing man made islam would save 1.5 billion Muslims unto HeavenlyHolyTrueGodJesusChrist Whom came here so that you & i can live in everlasting life in glorious joyous love for eternity.

  30. The meaning and world purpose in life is “love thy neighbor as thyself 10 mutual respectable Commandments from GodJesus “before the world was” Saint John 17:5 or 17:24 ” before the foundation of the world.”

    Make world peace at the expense of wrongdoers and wrong thinking. Abolishing man made koran-islam al-ilah makes world peace.
    Historical evidence (Armenia holocaust, 3/11, 7/7, 9/11, Egypt, Syria, Sudan, Palestine 21,000 missles after Gaza given up and daily evidence proves fake god islam has no right to exist anywhere in the world.

  31. Muslims were lied to proven by koran 76:19, 56:17, 552:24 sodomize boys, 65:4 pedophile all children of the world, 4:34 beat 78:33 full breasted women, 4:3 polygamy sex, 56:36 fantasy virgin patadise is a sex joke, all obviously made by men who knew sex would sell and get away with 47:4 kill Muslim apostates of the well known pagan lunar moon fake god al-ilah.
    1972, Muslims found the sanaa manuscripts prove the koran was made by men; experts prove koran words were changed.
    360 al-ilahs pre-mohamed; father and uncles name Abdullah. Now you know how pagan islam was made; clear full proof al-ilah has never existed.

  32. koran65:4,76:19,52:24,56:17clearproofal-ilahisamanmadefakegod,
    Google, “moon gods” clear proof al-ilah is a myth,
    Archeology books prove crescent moon god al-ilah paganism is the same today, means there’s no such thing as al-ilah. al-ilah is a myth, forced by murder, means Muslims were lied too.
    Myth al-ilah is used by men to get away with murder, abuse women and 76:19, 56:17, 52:24, 65:4 child sex, has no right to exist.
    Abolish islam 76:19, 56:17, 52:24 sodomize boys, 65:4 child sex, 78:33 full breasted women, 4:3 sex, 56:36 virgin paradise sex joke saves Muslims onto TrueGodJesus love, freedom, truth and salvation.

  33. 76:19, 56:17, 52:24, 65:4 koran is clear proof there’s no such thing as al-ilah. al-ilah is a myth.

    Do the research as I have, google “moon gods”
    “Sanaa manuscripts prove koran man made”
    “koran words altered” visable proof,
    “Archeological islam”
    “List of lunar deities”
    Indisputable proof “al-ilah is Arabian mythology” has no right to exist.

    Is the koran the word of al-ilah? al-ilah says filthy sick 76:19, 52:24, 56:17 sodomize boys, 65:4 pedophile all children of the world, 4:34 beat 78:33 full breasted, 4:3 sex lust, 56:36 virgin paradise is a sex joke, all obviously made by men to get away with murder and sex crimes with the non existent Arab mythology moon god myth al-ilah excuse.

  34. Do the research for your eternal life in HEAVEN OR HELL
    “I am in anguish in this flame” Saint Luke 16:24

    “I am from above, ye are of this world, I am not of this world” Saint John 8:23 is only way to everlasting life in glorious love & joy proven by Jesus love, died for us, resurrected and ascent to heaven positively seen and recorded in the New Testament Holy Bible.

    76:19, 56:17, 52:24, 65:4 child sex is clear proof the koran was man made and clear proof al-ilah has never existed. All historical information states al-ilah is Arabian mythology.

    Better to find True God Jesus Christ in unity with the Holy Spirit before its too late “I am in anguish in this flame.” Saint Luke 16:19-31

  35. 76:19, 56:17, 52:24, 65:4 koran proves there’s no such thing as al-ilah.
    65:4 koran proves there’s no such thing as al-ilah.
    65:4 islam proves there’s no such thing as as-ilah.

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