Preston Mosque Promotes Polygamy: "A husband is someone you share…"

Not sure if ‘interfaith dialogue’ or ‘sensitivity training’ can fix this. And the “embarrassing back-down”  that Padraic Murphy from the Herald Sun fantasises about is of course thinly veiled taqiyya:

VICTORIA’S largest mosque has been forced into an embarrassing back-down after women were told they must “fulfil the rights” of their husbands and share him with other women.

In a move that has outraged local Muslim women, at least one Preston Mosque committee member authorised a post on its official Facebook page instructing women that polygamy was a better alternative to divorce and husbands were “someone you share”.

Preston Mosque in strife over telling wives to share their husbands with other women

Update from the ivory tower:

Malcolm Turnbull, attacking Andrew Bolt’s “slippery slope” argument on same-sex marriage, last week asserted:

there is no demand, no lobby, no support, no constituency for legalising polygamy under the Marriage Act.

Little does he know: the Australian Young Greens party wanted to push for a public debate on polyamorous marriage, which allows people to have several wives or husbands. THE Greens have (also) been caught trying to promote the asylum seeker crisis as political bait to attract new members to its youth wing

And the Muslims will never stop pushing…..

“It is very important for a wife to fulfil the rights of her husband. Why? Because Allah commanded her to, after marriage Jannah is through her husband, and also the husband is your partner. A partner is someone you share with not someone who does things for you,” said the post.

“If a man is saying to his wife I will marry another woman, this is far better than saying you are divorced every time he is upset.

We are deeply concerned by the advice provided by Preston Mosque; it reflects a poor understanding of marital discord in Muslim families.

“Now where is the problem. If a man divorces his wife three times he has destroyed his family. They can no longer return to each other. Islam only allows two divorces and returns.

“So if your husband is telling you that he wants to take another wife and you are not doing the right thing by him, then know that he is thinking straight and using a weapon that doesn’t have severe consequences.”

The advice was pulled down after complaints and the Facebook post has been condemned by community leaders .

“We are deeply concerned by the advice provided by Preston Mosque; it reflects a poor understanding of marital discord in Muslim families,” said Joumanah El Matrah, executive director of the Australian Muslim Women’s Centre for Human Rights.

“Research from the Islamic world unequivocally demonstrates that polygamy contributes to marital discord, it does not resolve it.

“We are further concerned that the mosque is encouraging of polygamous marriages when they have no legal standing in this country – as this is a key requirement of Islam. Muslim marriage is a partnership, it is not a woman serving a man.”

A spokesman for Preston Mosque refused to comment, but the secretary of the Islamic Council of Victoria, Sherene Hassan, also condemned the post.

“The comments on the Facebook post are inappropriate and unacceptable,” Ms Hassan said. “The fact that the post was removed . . . very shortly after it was posted is encouraging.

“However, this incident further substantiates the community’s calls for greater conversations about these issues.”

Here’s The Age’s Aja Styles: 

Concerns over mosque leader’s polygamy post

The Australian Muslim Women’s Centre for Human Rights is trying to track the woman down.

A vulnerable Melbourne Muslim woman who was desperately seeking advice about her marriage has been told polygamy is better than divorce, it has been claimed.

The controversial Facebook post by a Preston mosque leader, which has since been pulled, has sparked controversy and calls for the woman to come forward. But there are fears she will not be found.

If your husband is telling you that he wants to take another wife and you are not doing the right thing by him, then know that he is thinking straight and using a weapon that doesn’t have severe consequences.

Joumah El Matrah, executive director for Australian Muslim Women’s Centre for Human Rights, said she and a number of other people wanted to provide the woman with alternative advice because “Muslim marriage is a partnership, it is not a woman serving a man”.

We all know that’s BS. A muslim woman is a slave.

‘‘We are deeply concerned by the advice provided by Preston Mosque; it reflects a poor understanding of marital discord in Muslim families,’’ Ms El Matrah said.

“Being only one woman specifically doesn’t make it any better.”

Ms El Matrah says she is deeply concerned that such advice was being given since polygamy was not legal in Australia and did not reflect the growing push against it in Islamic countries.

“Research indicates that polygamy contributes to violence in the family home and is detrimental to children, especially the boys. It creates heartache and distress for all those involved, even the men,” she said.

She said her organisation was too under-resourced to conduct any research into the existence of polygamy in Australia since a lot of shame was attached to the practice and it was almost impossible to get anyone to talk about it.

Another burden to the taxpayer. Why should we put up with this?

“Everybody knows someone who has been in a polygamy situation but I have never met someone who has been in that kind of set-up,” she said. “People won’t speak to you or those people don’t exist.”

She said the federal government was not contributing in any way to helping root out or eradicate polygamy, except to point out that it was an illegal practice.

We pay welfare to them, don’t we? And our social workers refuse to question the welfare seekers about whether they live in polygamous relationships.

She said that it did not stop conservative mosques secretly pushing these views in Australia, only in this case it has been exposed.

The official website of the Preston Mosque posted the statement on its page but has since taken it down due to the backlash from Islamic groups, including from the Islamic Council of Victoria.

The statement read: “It is very important for a wife to fulfil the rights of her husband. Why? Because Allah commanded her to, after marriage Jannah is through her husband, and also the husband is your partner. A partner is someone you share with not someone who does things for you.

“If a man is saying to his wife I will marry another woman, this is far better than saying you are divorced every time he is upset.

“Now where is the problem. If a man divorces his wife three times he has destroyed his family. They can no longer return to each other. Islam only allows two divorces and returns.

“So if your husband is telling you that he wants to take another wife and you are not doing the right thing by him, then know that he is thinking straight and using a weapon that doesn’t have severe consequences.”

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/concerns-over-mosque-leaders-polygamy-post-20120711-21uu8.html#ixzz20HCNzcmM

7 thoughts on “Preston Mosque Promotes Polygamy: "A husband is someone you share…"”

  1. God gave Adam one wife. Further, in the New Testment Jesus taught “For this cause shall a man leave father and mother and shall cleave to his wife…” Jesus said “wife” not wifes. Matthew 19 :5.
    These imams and mullahs understand nothing that is true but they only believe that which is false.

  2. Australia Muslim women’s group lashes out at polygamy claims

    Bikya Masr

    Complete BS.

    Believers Have No Opinion – Except Allah’s Decision

    “It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision.”
    Quran [33:36]

    An Australian Muslims women’s organization has fought back against an Islamic cleric in the country telling women to accept polygamy if their husband wants to take another wife. Joumanah el-Matrah, the executive director of the Muslim Women’s Center …

    MARK COLVIN: A Muslim women’s group has condemned a Melbourne mosque’s advice that polygamy is better than divorce. The advice was given to a troubled married woman who had sought help through the mosque’s Facebook page.

    The Muslim Women’s Centre for Human Rights believes polygamy is very rare among Australian Muslims. But it is calling on governments to do more to stamp out the practice where it does exist.

    Samantha Donovan reports.

    SAMANTHA DONOVAN: The advice was posted on the Facebook page of Melbourne’s Preston Mosque. It appeared to be in response to a query from a Muslim woman seeking help with her marriage.

    FACEBOOK PAGE EXTRACT (voiceover): If a man is saying to his wife I will marry another woman this is far better than saying you are divorced, every time he is upset. So if your husband is telling you that he wants to take another wife and you are not doing the right thing by him then know that he is thinking straight and using a weapon that doesn’t have severe consequences.

    SAMANTHA DONOVAN: But the Muslim Women’s Centre for Human Rights says polygamy does have severe consequences.

    Joumanah El Matrah is the centre’s executive director.

    JOUMANAH EL MATRAH: The recommendation or the advice given in this posting is explicitly encouraging the woman to be accepting of a polygamist marriage but I think more implicitly is the request to the woman to basically stay in the marriage that is unhappy and not to put her needs forward as being important.

    SAMANTHA DONOVAN: Ms El Matrah believes the practice of polygamy among Muslim Australians is extremely rare.

    JOUMANAH EL MATRAH: And the support for polygamy among the Muslim community we also believe to be extremely low and I think generally among the community it’s considered an inappropriate and a distasteful practise.

    SAMANTHA DONOVAN: This posting by the Mosque does it suggest to you that it is more common and that it’s perhaps something people just don’t always talk about?

    JOUMANAH EL MATRAH: Look it’s impossible to know the degree to which polygamy is practised in Australia because it is associated with shame and embarrassment because the vast majority of the community don’t support the practise and you know I think it’s really important to keep in mind that monogamy not polygamy is actually the norm in Muslim majority countries. It’s not as it Australian Muslims are practising polygamy because that was the norm in their country of origin.

    SAMANTHA DONOVAN: A representative of the Preston Mosque declined to speak to PM. But both the Islamic Council of Victoria and the Muslim Women’s Centre for Human Rights have confirmed that the Facebook posting was made. It has now been removed.

    Joumanah El Matrah says it’s impossible to know exactly who at the mosque posted the advice on Facebook.

    JOUMANAH EL MATRAH: Because the mosque is actually made up of a number of people who I think would have differing views on issues. For the most part you know historically Preston mosque has been a more progressive force in the community but because it does have a lot of different members it’s difficult to know at any one time which member’s views are being put forward.

    SAMANTHA DONOVAN: Ms El Matrah says at this stage it appears it won’t be possible to track down the woman to offer help.

    JOUMANAH EL MATRAH: It’s not clear from the posting on Facebook whether the mosque even knows who she is I mean she may have written on the Facebook page because she may have been able to keep her identity confidential that way and that would certainly seem consistent with what we know about polygamy which is that you know it’s hidden and most people who, most women who participate in the practice experience you know a great deal of community shame and don’t actually identify as practitioners.

    SAMANTHA DONOVAN: Joumanah El Matrah says media reports suggest to her that polygamy is less likely to be advocated by Muslims who have recently arrived in Australia.

    JOUMANAH EL MATRAH: It’s actually people who actually have either been Australia for quite a long time or people who are born here. I think this is more about a sort of revival of traditional or whatever’s perceived to be traditional Islam then it is a sort of you know an import from a Muslim country.

    I think some men have recognised that it’s possible because of the way the Marriage Act is written in Australia, it’s quite possible to be married and to have a defacto partner now having had that recognition it then just becomes possible to practise it.

    SAMANTHA DONOVAN: And what do you think should be done to stamp out polygamy where it does exist in Australia?

    JOUMANAH EL MATRAH: What we would like to see is government to basically take action to support Muslim women’s organisation and you know organisations like the Islamic Council of Victoria to basically undertake community education and to inform women of their alternative options.

    Bit currently there isn’t really any meaningful education being undertaken about polygamy and its impact on women or families or the community for that matter and the government needs to really step up and provide that information and support.

    MARK COLVIN: Joumanah El Matrah the executive director of the Muslim Women’s Centre for Human Rights speaking to Samantha Donovan.

  3. The Imam said, that “polygamy is better then divorce.” Better for whom?
    So, I guess he is okay with women taking on multiple husbands?

  4. very expected response from imams they only know the good side of polygamy as if when one becomes muslim he does not say the shahadetain he/she says they accept polygamy, why cant these religious men just understand that muslim women can refuse to be in polygamous marriages apparently its a very hard concept for them to understand on the other hand they don’t seem to have a problem in telling and enforcing polygamy on muslim women and its even worse when you see women telling other women that they are some what less of a muslim because they don’t want polygamy

  5. Typical response as you would expect in the western catholic and protestant dominated so called morality of racial and cultural tolerance.

    Seems one can love Middle Eastern food and culture but when it comes to marriage then Catholic Dogma must rule.

    Using polygamy as the base reason for all the problem marriages is simply rediculous people have problems in marriage regardless of whether they accept Polygamy or Monogomy.

    Their are guidlines for a happy marriage in both scenarios.

    As to the christians their are thousands of poly catholic / christians in Africa who have continued to practice Polygamy, so quoting dogma of the western aka Roman Catholic and Protestant branches is simply promoting their agenda and not the whole picture worldwide.

    Pity the western churches moral agenda continues to be promoted by a supposedly secular and impartial state.

    1. Yitzchak:

      The Africans can do what pleases them as long as we don’t have to feed them. African poverty is mostly caused by overbreeding and Moslem obsession with outbreeding anyone else is hardly a recipe for ‘happy marriage’ or anything else.

      You can shove your “morality of racial and cultural tolerance”- I’m not buying any. There’s a reason why we are what we are and why Africa is nothing but an ongoing disaster.

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