… unless the west criminalises ’hate-speech’ there will be riots and jihad and its all our fault:
Turkey’s President calls on West to “curb” criticism of Islam
Gul says he believes in free speech, but “incitement to hate and violence” should not enjoy free speech protections. By this he doesn’t mean the hate sermons of imams calling for jihad against Infidels, but the writings of “Islamophobes,” including accurate analyses of how jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to promote violence and supremacism.
The problem with his distinction between freedom of speech and “incitement to hate and violence” is that what constitutes the latter is a subjective judgment. The person who gets to decide what is “incitement to hate and violence” is the one who holds the power to control the public discourse. If the standard by which such incitement is determined is whether or not Muslims are rioting over something, then to outlaw this “incitement” would be tantamount to saying that all Muslims need do is riot in order to shut up someone who is saying things they don’t like.
And that, of course, is Abdullah Gul’s real objective: to compel the West to criminalize criticism of Islam and adopt Sharia blasphemy codes, under the guise of criminalizing “hate speech.”
As for Gul’s claim that “Islamophobia” is akin to antisemitism, the late Christopher Hitchens ably took that claim apart when writing a few years ago about the Islamic supremacist mega-mosque at Ground Zero: “‘Some of what people are saying in this mosque controversy is very similar to what German media was saying about Jews in the 1920s and 1930s,’ Imam Abdullah Antepli, Muslim chaplain at Duke University, told the New York Times. Yes, we all recall the Jewish suicide bombers of that period, as we recall the Jewish yells for holy war, the Jewish demands for the veiling of women and the stoning of homosexuals, and the Jewish burning of newspapers that published cartoons they did not like.”
Gul’s aim in this is to intimidate people into thinking that criticism of Islamic supremacism leads to the gas chambers, and thus there must be no criticism of Islamic supremacism. The unstated assumption is that if one group was unjustly accused of plotting subversion and violence, and was viciously persecuted and massacred on the basis of those false accusations, then any group accused of plotting subversion and violence must be innocent, and any such accusation must be in service of preparing for their internment and massacre.
The key difference is not only that Muslim leaders worldwide have made their intention to conquer and subjugate non-Muslims very clear, in a way that Jews never did in the run-up to the Holocaust; it is also that anti-jihadists nowhere advocate a “final solution” for Muslims, and never will — we are merely calling upon them to drop the authoritarian and repressive aspects of Sharia and obey the laws of the Western societies in which they live. This is a movement in defense of freedom and equality of rights before the law.
“Turkish president Abdullah Gul on Syria and Islamophobia,” by Haroon Siddiqui in the Toronto Star, November 28:
…Abdullah Gul, president of Turkey, heads a prosperous moderate Muslim democracy when much of the Middle East is roiled by popular revolts against dictatorships and for better economic conditions….
As foreign minister (2003-07), Gul spearheaded Turkey’s unsuccessful bid to join the European Union. Most Turks have soured on the idea, given European resistance, and Turkey’s economy booming and Europe’s tanking.
But it’s a quest that Gul still advocates as essential to keeping Turkey on the path to European liberal standards. At the same time, he’s pained by the West’s Islamophobia.
“It’s the same as anti-Semitism,” he said.
“It reminds us that while the West has high levels of education and income, it has diseases that are not easily curable. The diseases of the East, mainly illiteracy and poverty, are easier to fix than the diseases of the West, such as anti-Semitism and Islamophobia.
“Islamophobia poses particular risks in today’s globalized world. It can be costly as well as a menace to world peace, increase risks to the lives of ordinary people and complicate the world political situation.
“Just like the world tackled anti-Semitism, we need to take measures to contain anti-Islamism.”
Gul mentioned the recent short anti-Muhammad film made in the U.S. by a member of the radicalized Egyptian Coptic Christian diaspora and funded by a fundamentalist Christian.
“When we look at the people behind the film and their background, we can see which groups and people they were associated with. This speaks for itself. They are full of hate for Muslims and Islam
“I believe in freedom of speech but I also believe that this discourse of hate, and incitement to hate and violence should in no way be considered part of free speech. If we don’t curb it, it will only lead to graver problems.
“The western world has troops in Afghanistan and is very much engaged in the Middle East. On the other hand, it permits deliberate acts of hate that create security issues, and innocent people from both sides suffer.”
What does he think of the violent protests in parts of the Muslim world against insults to Islam, the Qur’an and Muhammad?
“Islamophobic needling provocations will happen again. They are deliberate. But they must be ignored. The Muslim world should not react in the way it has.”…
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These guys are truly freaking nuts. I can scream and declare to the mountain tops all day 24/7 if I wish to that I HATE MISOGYNY. I also HATE men who think they are God and can determine who lives and who dies. I hate any religion that treats women lesser than dogs. Also I HATE any religion that dictates to me that I have no right to USE my own mind..or to be moral, unlike these morons who are IMMORAL.
Above all I HATE idiots who tell me I have no right to HATE their spiritual sickness, sadism, sordid signs of shrinking skulls of scum.
I HATE men who claim to be religious when in fact, the sex slave hovels in muslim turkey attest to their HATRED OF WOMEN…AND THEIR LOVE OF ABUSE, BESTIALITY, KIDNAPPING, BEATING WOMEN. And they expect me to love that and not to HATE IT?…For any moron to suggest that I should LOVE THEIR hatred, their mental illness, their sadism, their belief that a terrorist god named allah is the wave of the future, only provides me with more proof that they are bonafide nuts…and more than hatred they deserve our pity for any man believing in crap should be locked up in a nut asylum 24/7.
So if we are to be equal opportunity bashers of hatred, all muslim men rise and be counted for YOUR undying hatred of the feminine. Why should we not have laws on the books that you cannot rape women in gangs, bury her head up to sand, force her to wear burqa/veils and other that prevent vitamin D/sun from keeping her healthy? Just the very act of forcing women to cover every square inch is super hateful. as you are denying her the right to health and God’s benefits of sun!
There is nothing to love in submission..not of one’s mind which they ask one to forfeit by denying reason and/or submit to their idiotic insanity…all I can say, is I will bend toward mecca and you can all kiss mine…never in a 1,000 years could any thinking woman be so utterly stupid in joining them in their fifth century neanderthal thinking..or should I say, NON-thinking. If one can’t think, leave me out okay?
I recall my first encounter with a muslim when working in Boston at an investment firm. The most rude/crude man I ever met, came to our office and refused to take a seat in the reception area as asked to do. Instead he swiftly walked back about 100 feet to see the man he wanted to visit..on the way he saw this darling island young girl, and stopped and asked her for a date. At first she relented, but then gave in. Fast forward…in a few months they were married in a Boston mosque, while he WAS STILL MARRIED TO HIS WIFE WITH FIVE CHILDREN in the burbs…I cannot forget this, nor forgive a sick bastrd like that..he showed his true unmanly colors the day he walked into that investment firm. I often wonder if the young gal he took as second wife is even alive today..the guy acted like king kong.
When these men can exterminate their egos, face reality and realize that they are no better than anyone, espec women, the world will be a much safer place. But as long as they behave like coddled children who have every right to have what they want when they want it, but to hell with women, they belong removed from the face of the earth. The day is long gone when phony patriarchial structures can reside on this earth side by side with normal people. A healthy patriarchy I could embrace, but what that religion offers is none other than sickness, sin, hatred of the other along with violence, venom and victimization.
These guys are truly freaking nuts. I can scream and declare to the mountain tops all day 24/7 if I wish to that I HATE MISOGYNY. I also HATE men who think they are God and that treats women lesser than dogs. Any religion that dictates to me that I have no right to USE my own mind..deserves much more than my hatred.This includes telling me I must love their spiritual sickness, sadism, their sordid signs of shrinking skulls swimming in the scum of sin-filled slaughtering.
I HATE men who claim to be religious when in fact, the sex slave hovels in muslim turkey attest to their HATRED OF WOMEN…AND THEIR LOVE OF ABUSE, BESTIALITY, KIDNAPPING, BEATING WOMEN. And they expect me to love that and not to HATE IT?…For any moron to suggest that I should LOVE THEIR hatred, their mental illness, their sadism, their belief that a terrorist god named allah is the wave of the future, only provides me with more proof that they are bonafide nuts…and more than hatred they deserve our pity for any man believing in crap should be locked up in a nut asylum 24/7.
So if we are to be equal opportunity bashers of hatred, all muslim men rise and be counted for YOUR undying hatred of the feminine. Why should we not have laws on the books that you cannot rape women in gangs, bury her head up to sand, force her to wear burqa/veils and other that prevent vitamin D/sun from keeping her healthy? Just the very act of forcing women to cover every square inch is super hateful. as you are denying her the right to health and God’s benefits of sun!
There is nothing to love in submission..not of one’s mind which they ask one to forfeit by denying reason and/or submit to their idiotic insanity…all I can say, is I will bend toward mecca and you can all kiss mine…never in a 1,000 years could any thinking woman be so utterly stupid in joining them in their fifth century neanderthal thinking..or should I say, NON-thinking. If one can’t think, leave me out okay?
I recall my first encounter with a muslim when working in Boston at an investment firm. The most rude/crude man I ever met, came to our office and refused to take a seat in the reception area as asked to do. Instead he swiftly walked back about 100 feet to see the man he wanted to visit..on the way he saw this darling island young girl, and stopped and asked her for a date. At first she relented, but then gave in. Fast forward…in a few months they were married in a Boston mosque, while he WAS STILL MARRIED TO HIS WIFE WITH FIVE CHILDREN in the burbs…I cannot forget this, nor forgive a sick bastrd like that..he showed his true unmanly colors the day he walked into that investment firm. I often wonder if the young gal he took as second wife is even alive today..the guy acted like king kong.
When these men can exterminate their egos, face reality and realize that they are no better than anyone, espec women, the world will be a much safer place. But as long as they behave like coddled children who have every right to have what they want when they want it, but to hell with women, they belong removed from the face of the earth. The day is long gone when phony patriarchial structures can reside on this earth side by side with normal people. A healthy patriarchy I could embrace, but what that religion offers is none other than sickness, sin, hatred of the other along with violence, venom and victimization.
Many people who know muslims can relate similar stories Virginia.
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